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Timperley The Best

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Re: The run in
« Reply #60 on: April 10, 2024, 07:05:56 PM »

Gateshead game at Fylde in doubt tomorrow night. They aren't going to be playing consecutive nights next week. You can see where this is going. Gateshead and Halifax will be given preferential treatment.

Can't see the season being extended meaning they  will have to play on consecutive nights
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Re: The run in
« Reply #61 on: April 10, 2024, 07:18:36 PM »

I can't see any way how the season can be extended to be honest, but at the same time the dreadful weather forecast for the next week or so is going to cause havoc. No idea how this is resolved unless games are played behind closed doors at neutral venues.
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Re: The run in
« Reply #62 on: April 10, 2024, 08:49:56 PM »

Can't we get The Pools Panel to decide the outcomes? 😉

PS. If I'm elected, Gateshead and Halifax will lose all their games 1-4. 😂
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Re: The run in
« Reply #63 on: April 10, 2024, 09:24:44 PM »

I've been crunching the numbers and here's how things stand:

If we do as well or better than Aldershot on Saturday, we will have secured a playoff spot. If Aldershot lose, we are in the playoffs. If we win, we are in the playoffs. If Aldershot draw and we draw, we are in the playoffs.

To finish in the top three we must win our final two games and ALL of the following must happen:
- Halifax drop at least two points (draw or lose one game)
- Solihull drop at least two points (draw or lose one game)
- Gateshead drop at least eight points (or seven if their goal difference takes a dive and/or ours improves). To drop eight points from five games they would need to lose three, lose two and draw one, lose one and draw three or draw four. To drop seven they would need to lose one and draw two.
- Bromley get no more than two draws from their last three games.

Failing all four of those things happening, we will still finish top five if we win our remaining games and at least TWO of them happen.

If we drop two points in our final games then top three is impossible but we could still finish in the top five if any TWO of these happen:
- Bromley lose every game
- Solihull drop at least four points (ie don't win either of their two games)
- Halifax drop three points (lose one or draw two)
- Gateshead drop at least ten points - or nine if goal difference swings in our favour.

If we drop three points in our two remaining games then a top five finish would require any TWO of the following:
- Halifax drop at least four points (draw two or lose 1 and draw one)
- Gateshead drop at least eleven points, or ten if goal difference swings in our favour.
- Solihull drop at least five points by getting no more than a draw from their final two games.

Simples 8)
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Re: The run in
« Reply #64 on: April 10, 2024, 09:36:49 PM »

I've been crunching the numbers and here's how things stand:

If we do as well or better than Aldershot on Saturday, we will have secured a playoff spot. If Aldershot lose, we are in the playoffs. If we win, we are in the playoffs. If Aldershot draw and we draw, we are in the playoffs.

To finish in the top three we must win our final two games and ALL of the following must happen:
- Halifax drop at least two points (draw or lose one game)
- Solihull drop at least two points (draw or lose one game)
- Gateshead drop at least eight points (or seven if their goal difference takes a dive and/or ours improves). To drop eight points from five games they would need to lose three, lose two and draw one, lose one and draw three or draw four. To drop seven they would need to lose one and draw two.
- Bromley get no more than two draws from their last three games.

Failing all four of those things happening, we will still finish top five if we win our remaining games and at least TWO of them happen.

If we drop two points in our final games then top three is impossible but we could still finish in the top five if any TWO of these happen:
- Bromley lose every game
- Solihull drop at least four points (ie don't win either of their two games)
- Halifax drop three points (lose one or draw two)
- Gateshead drop at least ten points - or nine if goal difference swings in our favour.

If we drop three points in our two remaining games then a top five finish would require any TWO of the following:
- Halifax drop at least four points (draw two or lose 1 and draw one)
- Gateshead drop at least eleven points, or ten if goal difference swings in our favour.
- Solihull drop at least five points by getting no more than a draw from their final two games.

Simples 8)
Brilliant WA. Have you been reading my mind? Parky could use this for his team talk. The top three plan seemed promising until Gateshead. Top five isn't too far fetched TBH. We all live in hope. Thanks for your efforts. Hope you've gone for a lie down.😁
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Re: The run in
« Reply #65 on: April 10, 2024, 10:25:31 PM »

Win at Ebbs and we'll get 5th. Draw or lose, we'll be 6th and face an extra game.

That's what I think anyway.
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Re: The run in
« Reply #66 on: April 10, 2024, 10:38:46 PM »

Win at Ebbs and we'll get 5th. Draw or lose, we'll be 6th and face an extra game.

That's what I think anyway.

We won't have an extra game, we just won't have a home match in the qualifier round.
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Re: The run in
« Reply #67 on: April 10, 2024, 10:41:08 PM »

If we win both of our remaining games - and Solihull don't win both of theirs (bearing in mind they have Bromley away on Saturday) - then we'll finish 5th.

That's assuming Gateshead don't collapse.
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Re: The run in
« Reply #68 on: April 10, 2024, 11:12:04 PM »

If we win both of our remaining games - and Solihull don't win both of theirs (bearing in mind they have Bromley away on Saturday) - then we'll finish 5th.

That's assuming Gateshead don't collapse.

We'd also need ONE of Halifax, Gateshead or Bromley to drop sufficient points (as outlined above), otherwise we'd be 6th.
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Re: The run in
« Reply #69 on: April 10, 2024, 11:16:15 PM »

Win at Ebbs and we'll get 5th. Draw or lose, we'll be 6th and face an extra game.

That's what I think anyway.
A win at Ebbsfleet would guarantee top seven but top five isn't solely in our hands even if we win both remaining games. We need results elsewhere to go our way for that, as outlined above.
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Re: The run in
« Reply #70 on: April 11, 2024, 05:37:16 AM »

With this weeks wipeout it’s impossible to call yet. And we might lose Fylde v Gateshead this evening yet with a pitch inspection scheduled for 11am
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Re: The run in
« Reply #71 on: April 11, 2024, 12:47:46 PM »

If we win both of our remaining games - and Solihull don't win both of theirs (bearing in mind they have Bromley away on Saturday) - then we'll finish 5th.

That's assuming Gateshead don't collapse.

We'd also need ONE of Halifax, Gateshead or Bromley to drop sufficient points (as outlined above), otherwise we'd be 6th.

I'm working on the basis of Bromley and Gateshead finishing above us.

If we win both remaining games, Halifax would need to win all four of their remaining games, in eight days, to overtake us - which you'd get a great price at the bookies for.

For me, it's all about Solihull.
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« Reply #72 on: April 11, 2024, 12:53:15 PM »

With this weeks wipeout it’s impossible to call yet. And we might lose Fylde v Gateshead this evening yet with a pitch inspection scheduled for 11am

Fylde game on, didn't look too doubtful given the dry and mild forecast today.

I guess we probably want all games to go ahead now - the last thing we'd want is the league stepping in and making an executive decision that goes against us.

Solihull at home and Gateshead / Halifax hopefully out on their feet beyond the 20th - one can dream...
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Re: The run in
« Reply #73 on: April 11, 2024, 01:15:52 PM »

If we win both of our remaining games - and Solihull don't win both of theirs (bearing in mind they have Bromley away on Saturday) - then we'll finish 5th.

That's assuming Gateshead don't collapse.

We'd also need ONE of Halifax, Gateshead or Bromley to drop sufficient points (as outlined above), otherwise we'd be 6th.

I'm working on the basis of Bromley and Gateshead finishing above us.

If we win both remaining games, Halifax would need to win all four of their remaining games, in eight days, to overtake us - which you'd get a great price at the bookies for.

For me, it's all about Solihull.
Definitely. Us winning both games and Solihull and Halifax dropping points is our most likely route to the top five, should we make it there - but there are other (less likely) avenues.
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Re: The run in
« Reply #74 on: April 11, 2024, 01:33:56 PM »

As I said above, four points is very unlikely to get us to fifth. (even six would leave us depending on others slipping - which surely must be on the cards?)
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