www.altyfans.co.uk

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

PLEASE JOIN THE ALTRINCHAM FC PATRONS SCHEME TODAY
* HELP THE CLUB THROUGH THE COVID-19 SHUTDOWN
* HELP FUND THE CLUB TO BIGGER AND BRIGHTER THINGS
* HELP THE MANAGERS ATTRACT THE PLAYERS THEY NEED TO PUSH THE CLUB FORWARD

https://www.altrinchamfc.com/club/the-patrons-scheme

+ www.altyfans.co.uk » General Category » Altrincham FC First Team
 Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 7

Author Topic: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough  (Read 13921 times)

Timperley The Best

  • Administrator
  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4187
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2023, 10:38:47 AM »

Surely we couldn't match them for wages let alone tranfer fees
« Last Edit: January 11, 2023, 10:52:32 AM by Timperley The Best »
Logged

Saughall Robin

  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6670
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2023, 10:49:43 AM »

Surely we couldn't match them for wages let alone tranfernfees

Of course we couldn't.
Logged
"While we're in the North, we might as well take on the Cheshire League Champions and give them a good hammering" Bill Leivers, 1967 (before Altrincham 7, Cambridge United 1)

HashtagAlty

  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2349
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2023, 11:12:56 AM »

Surely we couldn't match them for wages let alone tranfernfees

Of course we couldn't.

But we dont need a transfer fee, just wages, and therefore we're probably £1k a week higher (50k over 50 weeks)
Surely we couldn't match them for wages let alone tranfernfees

Of course we couldn't.

You dont need to pay a transfer fee to keep a player.
Logged
It's all my fault.

alty.fc

  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 942
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2023, 12:37:12 PM »

Surely we couldn't match them for wages let alone tranfernfees

Of course we couldn't.

But we dont need a transfer fee, just wages, and therefore we're probably £1k a week higher (50k over 50 weeks)
Surely we couldn't match them for wages let alone tranfernfees

Of course we couldn't.

You dont need to pay a transfer fee to keep a player.
exactly this and let's say for the rest of the season it's 1k a week for 15 weeks that's a good investment to secure safety for another season and the attributed benefits
Logged
Come on you red and white........

Bob

  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1198
  • Glass Half Full
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2023, 02:18:51 PM »

Factor in though any signing on fee for the player from the new club, the bonus structure, expenses etc. Factor in also a hefty fee we would get that could go into future squad wages moving forward which we wouldn't have got if we'd hung on until the summer.  Then you've got the player's own motivation and ambition. It's a lot more complex than an extra grand a week to solve it all.
Logged

Bath Alty

  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 388
  • Technically now Lechlade Alty
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2023, 02:48:59 PM »

You can’t pay every player their current transfer value spread over a season in wages. You end up buying every player multiple times. And if you do it for one then the rest want the same. It blows the clubs wage structure apart.
Logged

alty.fc

  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 942
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2023, 03:42:15 PM »

Factor in though any signing on fee for the player from the new club, the bonus structure, expenses etc. Factor in also a hefty fee we would get that could go into future squad wages moving forward which we wouldn't have got if we'd hung on until the summer.  Then you've got the player's own motivation and ambition. It's a lot more complex than an extra grand a week to solve it all.
I think I noted above if a player wants to go for  money or any other reason  you have to let them go
Logged
Come on you red and white........

alty.fc

  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 942
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2023, 03:42:46 PM »

You can’t pay every player their current transfer value spread over a season in wages. You end up buying every player multiple times. And if you do it for one then the rest want the same. It blows the clubs wage structure apart.
I imagine coco is already paid more than anyone else already
Logged
Come on you red and white........

MarpleAlty

  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3107
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2023, 04:47:00 PM »

I'm sorry but this thread has gone absolutely insane.

Glad we're not in charge of the club, as we'd have gone bust many times over.
Logged

alty.fc

  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 942
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2023, 04:58:52 PM »

I thought it was quite a decent topic being discussed from various points of view to be honest
Logged
Come on you red and white........

MarpleAlty

  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3107
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #70 on: January 11, 2023, 05:20:05 PM »

The suggestion of paying him an extra grand a week - just until the end of the season when he buggers off anyway - is possibly the most bonkers thing I've ever read on this forum (and there's been some contenders to that title over the years).

Going back to the JJ scenario - imagine we'd offered him an improved contract instead of banking a fee and using the proceeds to sign Durell, Mooney and Lundstram (on loan)?

Other benefits could include a potential sell on - just in case he absolutely smashes it with them over 12 months and gets an even bigger move.

I know it's hard to let go, but this will happen more and more often as we continue to be successful.

There is always a correct time to sell - and as much as I'd be delighted if he stays, I'd totally understand if he didn't - and I'd back the management to keep moving us forward.

If we do eventually get promoted out of this league, it won't be with Ryan Colclough in our ranks - but tough decisions we take along the way will get us there.
Logged

Mrs Warbouys

  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1320
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #71 on: January 11, 2023, 05:35:45 PM »

We’ve lost better in my time watching. Invest on promotion winners like we did when JJ went for a fee, no one has died
Logged

Is this it?

  • First Team Squad
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 235
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #72 on: January 11, 2023, 05:53:03 PM »

Is it just me that has no idea what wages are paid to the players?

From reading the comments on here I'm assuming everyone else has full access to the Club's accounts!
Logged

Saughall Robin

  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6670
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #73 on: January 11, 2023, 05:55:56 PM »

Is it just me that has no idea what wages are paid to the players?

From reading the comments on here I'm assuming everyone else has full access to the Club's accounts!

Yes. It's just you. We all know but we're not telling you.
Logged
"While we're in the North, we might as well take on the Cheshire League Champions and give them a good hammering" Bill Leivers, 1967 (before Altrincham 7, Cambridge United 1)

Leon

  • Regular First Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1541
    • View Profile
Re: Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough
« Reply #74 on: January 11, 2023, 06:25:03 PM »

I thought it was quite a decent topic being discussed from various points of view to be honest

No, you've misunderstood. You either agree with everything Marple Alty says or you're clearly in some way mentally deficient. To be honest, you're lucky he didn't deploy the crazy face emoji on you.
Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 7
+ www.altyfans.co.uk » General Category » Altrincham FC First Team
 Chesterfield 'in talks' to sign Ryan Colclough