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[TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2022/aug/25/time-wasting-needs-tackling-manchester-united-liverpool

[Hugh]

Some good points in an entertaining article. Personally I would consider making it a sending off offence when a player picks up the ball after a goal and refuses to give it back to an opposition team desperate to kick off again quickly, that's the sort of behaviour that can easily spark a brawl.

[AltyTunnelSteward]

Once the goal has been scored the referee should stop their watch until play resumes.

Hence this is actually NOT time wasting in any way.

BTW under which of the 17 laws would you propose to punish the (non) transgressor?

[One Foot in the Grave]

Once the goal has been scored the referee should stop their watch until play resumes.

Hence this is actually NOT time wasting in any way.

BTW under which of the 17 laws would you propose to punish the (non) transgressor?

Law 18 !

[AltyTunnelSteward]

A splendid suggestion and a very useful Law.

Unfortunately the use of said Law is often frowned upon by the 'powers that be' and its use reflected in reductions in an officials mark for that game

[Hugh]

holding things up like this after goal certainly might disrupt a team's momentum though and is very provocative (and frustrating for supporters. By the same token, time is added on for fake injuries but they are, like delaying kickoff after a goal, about giving a teram time to regroup, and there is no possible doubt about the picking the ball up one - ungentlemanly conduct of the worst sort.

One thing I would like to know though is just how much discretion the referee has over time wasting and stoppages. There was a match against Blyth when the floodlights failed and one Alty supporter insisted that the time added on at the end of the half was less than the amount  of time taken to get the lights back on. Understandable in a match against Blyth, but it does beg the question what else referees can do on their own initiative in a competitive match..

[AltyTunnelSteward]

In order of asking

The game cannot restart until the ball is on the Centre Spot and both teams are ready. The  watch should be stopped when a goal is scored and restarted with play. IF players knew the Laws of the game they are playing they would recognise this fact and all the unseemly and ultimately pointless wrestling might stop.

The Referee is the sole arbiter of time and it it within their gift to play whatever amount of stoppage time they deem fit.
At our level this could be any length, I played about 9 minutes on Wednesday because of, IMO,  some excessively agricultural clearances and some questionable  attacks of cramp.
At the higher levels though they can find themselves somewhat pressured by TV Schedules etc.