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rorysgrandad

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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2022, 06:34:01 AM »

Now there's an idea!

I seem to remember Everton doing something similar with those mints (doubtless someone can tell me if they did in 1975).

They did Hugh. The Toffee Girl, a regular feature at Goodison Park, used to throw Everton Mints into the crowd. Health & Safety probably put paid to that tradition.
Bury used to throw black puddings or am I getting confused?
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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2022, 08:43:23 AM »

Now there's an idea!

I seem to remember Everton doing something similar with those mints (doubtless someone can tell me if they did in 1975).

They did Hugh. The Toffee Girl, a regular feature at Goodison Park, used to throw Everton Mints into the crowd. Health & Safety probably put paid to that tradition.
Bury used to throw black puddings or am I getting confused?

I’m glad I don’t support West Ham. Those f%#@ hammers hurt.
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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2022, 09:10:25 AM »

I was actually thinking of selling the IPA to relieve congestion in the club but I guess you knew that! 😉
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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2022, 11:59:58 AM »

You'd never get home for your tea, unless they cut it to 35 in-play minutes per half. Sometime, set your stopwatch and monitor how much time the ball is dead - you'll be amazed (ATS may know the answer.....)
Taking the Southend-Borehamwood game from the opening day as an example, I read that the ball was in play for 36 mins.
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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2022, 03:57:47 PM »

You'd never get home for your tea, unless they cut it to 35 in-play minutes per half. Sometime, set your stopwatch and monitor how much time the ball is dead - you'll be amazed (ATS may know the answer.....)
Taking the Southend-Borehamwood game from the opening day as an example, I read that the ball was in play for 36 mins.
While I understand that the 2 figures stated seems very little play, most of the deficit from those stats come from throw in, goal kicks etc, stop clock would only be used for the incidents that a ref would add time on, injuries, subs, excessive arguing with the ref etc. Rugby is only a total of 10 mins shorter but is 99.9% done within 2 hours, including HT.
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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2022, 04:36:59 PM »

The first point I would wish to make is that 'tactical injuries' are far less prevalent in the Women's game.

If a player is 'injured' and doesn't get up almost immediately then they really are injured. In fact sometimes players have to be almost instructed to sit down.

Sadly I suspect that this scenario will cease to be far too soon.

In terms of additional time I guess it's a judgement call. Normally the watch wouldn't be stopped for every throw in.
However if the ball is hoofed into the next County I would as I would if it seemed that the clearance into touch may be being utilised to eat up time.
The Referee is the sole arbiter of time and has recourse to sanctions, eg Yellow Card for Time Wasting with potential Red for repeat.
On a "parks" pitch I often search out the Captain and advise them that if their team want to play silly buggers I will stop my watch EVERY TIME the ball goes out. Unsurprisingly that often does the trick
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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2022, 06:06:45 PM »

I think we already have seen the German women employing that tactic during the European Cup.
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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2022, 10:03:23 PM »

Wrexham did it here last season, they called in "game management". referees are the issue, to soft, know the rules but don't know the game.

Onwards and upwards, three points tomorrow & hopefully the Welsh Postman Dai will get his finger out (wherever it is !)  :-[
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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2022, 10:55:42 PM »

So which 'Law' are you talking about please? There are 17

How would you suggest it were better dealt with?
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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2022, 09:45:34 AM »

So which 'Law' are you talking about please? There are 17

How would you suggest it were better dealt with?

My view is anyone breaking the law should be punished,  by the officials,  dont you agree Phil?
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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2022, 05:44:14 PM »

Yeah but it's a fine line between acceptable delay and time wasting and a Refereeing judgement call.
My tolerance will be different to yours and we'll both be different to for example Pete Hughes
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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2022, 08:55:50 PM »

Probably off topic but I thought the referee tried hard today. No complaints from me.
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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2022, 09:02:27 PM »

I actually think, to be a ref in this league you have to be vertically challenged.

Come pantomime time in a few months they will probably be moonlighting in Theatres up and down the country.

Hi Ho…..
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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2022, 09:47:08 PM »

The ref was the least of our worries today
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Re: Something should be done about "tactical" injuries.
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2022, 11:19:56 PM »

This evening, without trying too hard, I played seven minutes and forty eight seconds in stoppage time due almost entirely to cramp miraculously recovered from when it became apparent that I had stopped my watch and the habit of the side a goal up to hoof the ball as far out of play as possible
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