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[cheshire cat]

I think I read or heard somewhere that the regulations have been tightened up and become applicable at the next safety inspection.

In our case  the inspection was being done as a result of a sequence of events starting with the email. Once the ball is rolling things are judged against current requirements, not out of date ones.

[rorysgrandad]

I’m watching the Buxton game right now.  Their perimeter fence looks identical to ours.  Fans are up against the perimeter fence at this game.   Surely the same safety rules apply at Buxton.  Has their perimeter fence been inspected and approved as a crush barrier?   Is it something to do with stewarding when it comes to being allowed on the fence?  Just wondering…..

Thankfully we have Trafford Council looking after our best interests. (sarcasm).

[PukkaPieman]

I wonder if the capacity was based on how much each area holds per sqaure metre. Without taking in to consideration barriers, walkways etc.
Anyone at Guiseley would have felt another 3k in there would have been mental.

FYI The capacity of all grounds is calculated based on a number of factors as detailed in the green guide, these rules have not changed in ages. These include terrace areas, terrace dimensions, terrace condition, barrier design, loadings and condition, P and S factors and the capacity of entry turnstiles, exit gates, emergency exits rate of exit and spectator flow rates. If pitch barriers are not load tested then theoretically they are not safe; in reality where grounds have minimal standing and low spectator numbers the risks are extremely low of pitch fences collapsing, but it can and has happened. Some of our pitch fences are in front of emergency exit routes, such as golf rd end, away end and other parts where anyone standing at the fence will obstruct the exit route.

Hope this helps.

[TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe]

Encouraging new statement issued

https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/ground-progress-update

That statement omits any mention of the apparent issues relating to the Golf Road End though.

[SW]

Where the P value is at its highest value of 1.0 the terrace capacity can be based on up to 4.7 persons per m2, not that comfortable, but realistically other factors such as the speed of exit and width of gates will have more of a bearing on a terrace capacity even where the terrace itself is in perfect condition.
Moss Lane is extremely difficult to assess as the terraces currently are not self-contained so free movement is theoretically possible around most of the ground.
With regards to smaller stadia, football grounds holding less than 5000 persons may not be designated unless they have been before or they have designated covered stands holding more than 500 persons.

[Ballers]

I’m watching the Buxton game right now.  Their perimeter fence looks identical to ours.  Fans are up against the perimeter fence at this game.   Surely the same safety rules apply at Buxton.  Has their perimeter fence been inspected and approved as a crush barrier?   Is it something to do with stewarding when it comes to being allowed on the fence?  Just wondering…..

Probably won't have been considered, Buxton's av league gate is around 450.
It will be as much to keep walkways clear as loading on the fence (which is clearly not designed for such, the cross sectional area of the members alone show that).

See my previous post re the explanation given at the agm. It isn’t the walkways, it’s the actual fact the barriers haven’t been tested as crowd barriers. And as someone else has reaffirmed, without the  council being called in this wouldn’t have been checked until an actual inspection but now it has been.

It’s not the walkways issue although that would make more sense tbh

[CRT Butty]

With the Nantwich game just around the corner, can we be assured we'll all fit into Moss Lane?