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[wayno]

I hope harvey is here for many years to come.  no-one could turn this lot round this quick, players are already with clubs & if they are any good they are getting games.  no-one is going to want to come here at the moment unless it is for silly wages.  Get Hannigan fit and on the pitch and get some confidence at the back, give Cyrus a rest(!) and see what we can do in building from there.  It will take time to drag us up from this far down.

Good post,totally agree.

spot on . Even if he takes  us down let him rebuild this once proud club with every penny we have

[Teasierbeaver]

JH is clearly not the main culprit but his first basic task with this team (which is mixture of disheartened and substandard players, I agree) was to get them organised, committed and hard to beat. I think we should be seeing signs of that by now but we are not.

Harvey absolute crap, get him out now - worse than Young, we actually going backwards under this idiot

Panic appointment by a desperate board

ha ha.  Who was the last manager you actually rated ? I didn't think anyone could cheer me up tonight you did thanks  

So whats the answer Wayno? I tell you now Harvey won't be here by Christmas, from what I'm hearing maybe not the end of the week

I don't appoint the managers and I most certainly don't have to rate them - this board has a proven track record of appointing sh*t managers

Sausages, these were your words on the 5th September:

"Jim Harvey sounds a decent appointment, and good luck to him

But this club is only heading in one direction whilst the current chairman is in post. The NLP comments will never be forgiven or forgotten and nor should they, the good name of this club and its supporters has been forever tarnished"

So, essentially now you're saying that you were in fact wrong, he's not a decent appointment, and you're also wrong because you said the club was heading in one direction due to the chairman. Now you're saying the club should have been back on the up by now because of the manager, who it turns out is sh*t???

Come on lad, stop patronising people by expecting them to believe that anything you say is purely about the club we all support and not about you trying to address your own personal agenda, for which you will never actually be particularly clear about other than wanting the chairman to resign.

For what its worth I think you were right in September, the club is on the slide big time and Sir Alex Ferguson couldn't get a tune out of our squad at the moment because they simply have no belief whatsoever. The playing staff are rotten to the core. There's something wrong at the club and many of us have no real idea of how or when things can turn.

Not a chance we fix anything by getting rid of Jim Harvey. We need to stop being sentimental about players that were good for us 2 seasons ago. The entire squad with the exception of Reeves and Densmore is open to being replaced. The club needs to do something bold now and they most definitely need to put every non-footballing matter on the back burner until things turn.

[dunhamalty]

JH is clearly not the main culprit but his first basic task with this team (which is mixture of disheartened and substandard players, I agree) was to get them organised, committed and hard to beat. I think we should be seeing signs of that by now but we are not.

Harvey absolute crap, get him out now - worse than Young, we actually going backwards under this idiot

Panic appointment by a desperate board

ha ha.  Who was the last manager you actually rated ? I didn't think anyone could cheer me up tonight you did thanks  

So whats the answer Wayno? I tell you now Harvey won't be here by Christmas, from what I'm hearing maybe not the end of the week

I don't appoint the managers and I most certainly don't have to rate them - this board has a proven track record of appointing sh*t managers

Sausages, these were your words on the 5th September:

"Jim Harvey sounds a decent appointment, and good luck to him

But this club is only heading in one direction whilst the current chairman is in post. The NLP comments will never be forgiven or forgotten and nor should they, the good name of this club and its supporters has been forever tarnished"

So, essentially now you're saying that you were in fact wrong, he's not a decent appointment, and you're also wrong because you said the club was heading in one direction due to the chairman. Now you're saying the club should have been back on the up by now because of the manager, who it turns out is sh*t???

Come on lad, stop patronising people by expecting them to believe that anything you say is purely about the club we all support and not about you trying to address your own personal agenda, for which you will never actually be particularly clear about other than wanting the chairman to resign.

For what its worth I think you were right in September, the club is on the slide big time and Sir Alex Ferguson couldn't get a tune out of our squad at the moment because they simply have no belief whatsoever. The playing staff are rotten to the core. There's something wrong at the club and many of us have no real idea of how or when things can turn.

Not a chance we fix anything by getting rid of Jim Harvey. We need to stop being sentimental about players that were good for us 2 seasons ago. The entire squad with the exception of Reeves and Densmore is open to being replaced. The club needs to do something bold now and they most definitely need to put every non-footballing matter on the back burner until things turn.

Good post apart from Reeves and Densmore are also in the firing line for me. Granted Reeves hasn't had much service but Reeves has been as poor as the rest this season. I am not sure we will ever see Dens play again.

[GB Alty]

JH is clearly not the main culprit but his first basic task with this team (which is mixture of disheartened and substandard players, I agree) was to get them organised, committed and hard to beat. I think we should be seeing signs of that by now but we are not.

Harvey absolute crap, get him out now - worse than Young, we actually going backwards under this idiot

Panic appointment by a desperate board

ha ha.  Who was the last manager you actually rated ? I didn't think anyone could cheer me up tonight you did thanks  

So whats the answer Wayno? I tell you now Harvey won't be here by Christmas, from what I'm hearing maybe not the end of the week

I don't appoint the managers and I most certainly don't have to rate them - this board has a proven track record of appointing sh*t managers

Sausages, these were your words on the 5th September:

"Jim Harvey sounds a decent appointment, and good luck to him

But this club is only heading in one direction whilst the current chairman is in post. The NLP comments will never be forgiven or forgotten and nor should they, the good name of this club and its supporters has been forever tarnished"

So, essentially now you're saying that you were in fact wrong, he's not a decent appointment, and you're also wrong because you said the club was heading in one direction due to the chairman. Now you're saying the club should have been back on the up by now because of the manager, who it turns out is sh*t???

Come on lad, stop patronising people by expecting them to believe that anything you say is purely about the club we all support and not about you trying to address your own personal agenda, for which you will never actually be particularly clear about other than wanting the chairman to resign.

For what its worth I think you were right in September, the club is on the slide big time and Sir Alex Ferguson couldn't get a tune out of our squad at the moment because they simply have no belief whatsoever. The playing staff are rotten to the core. There's something wrong at the club and many of us have no real idea of how or when things can turn.

Not a chance we fix anything by getting rid of Jim Harvey. We need to stop being sentimental about players that were good for us 2 seasons ago. The entire squad with the exception of Reeves and Densmore is open to being replaced. The club needs to do something bold now and they most definitely need to put every non-footballing matter on the back burner until things turn.

Harvey did seem a decent appointment back on the 5th September, but yes looks like I was wrong he has no clue what to do he is taking us backwards not forwards if thats possible, who would of thought it

My comments on the 5th September about only heading in one direction under the current chairman surely still ring true now? I would say it's clearer than ever?

Stop burying your head in the sand with all this nonsense of hiden agenda's, you won't find many that dont agree with me (other than here on this forum) in reality. Wake up a smell the coffee, you yourself say theres something wrong at the club.

The buck stops at the chairman and his board, they have 100% responsibility, they run the club and are running it into the ground

[Teasierbeaver]

JH is clearly not the main culprit but his first basic task with this team (which is mixture of disheartened and substandard players, I agree) was to get them organised, committed and hard to beat. I think we should be seeing signs of that by now but we are not.

Harvey absolute crap, get him out now - worse than Young, we actually going backwards under this idiot

Panic appointment by a desperate board

ha ha.  Who was the last manager you actually rated ? I didn't think anyone could cheer me up tonight you did thanks 

So whats the answer Wayno? I tell you now Harvey won't be here by Christmas, from what I'm hearing maybe not the end of the week

I don't appoint the managers and I most certainly don't have to rate them - this board has a proven track record of appointing sh*t managers

Sausages, these were your words on the 5th September:

"Jim Harvey sounds a decent appointment, and good luck to him

But this club is only heading in one direction whilst the current chairman is in post. The NLP comments will never be forgiven or forgotten and nor should they, the good name of this club and its supporters has been forever tarnished"

So, essentially now you're saying that you were in fact wrong, he's not a decent appointment, and you're also wrong because you said the club was heading in one direction due to the chairman. Now you're saying the club should have been back on the up by now because of the manager, who it turns out is sh*t???

Come on lad, stop patronising people by expecting them to believe that anything you say is purely about the club we all support and not about you trying to address your own personal agenda, for which you will never actually be particularly clear about other than wanting the chairman to resign.

For what its worth I think you were right in September, the club is on the slide big time and Sir Alex Ferguson couldn't get a tune out of our squad at the moment because they simply have no belief whatsoever. The playing staff are rotten to the core. There's something wrong at the club and many of us have no real idea of how or when things can turn.

Not a chance we fix anything by getting rid of Jim Harvey. We need to stop being sentimental about players that were good for us 2 seasons ago. The entire squad with the exception of Reeves and Densmore is open to being replaced. The club needs to do something bold now and they most definitely need to put every non-footballing matter on the back burner until things turn.

Harvey did seem a decent appointment back on the 5th September, but yes looks like I was wrong he has no clue what to do he is taking us backwards not forwards if thats possible, who would of thought it

My comments on the 5th September about only heading in one direction under the current chairman surely still ring true now? I would say it's clearer than ever?

Stop burying your head in the sand with all this nonsense of hiden agenda's, you won't find many that dont agree with me (other than here on this forum) in reality. Wake up a smell the coffee, you yourself say theres something wrong at the club.

The buck stops at the chairman and his board, they have 100% responsibility for this mess

Im wide awake, its not coffee i can smell, its poo because we are right in it.

No heads are buried in the sand, the club needs to sort things out. I think you'll find most people think we need a shift in attitude and priority, but not a new board or chairman. What I will say is that they have a choice, come out fighting and be prepared to accept the mess and improve it or step aside for someone else to have a go. To me thats different to wanting them pure and simple to go.

Glad you came on and gave a balanced response instead of letting this descend into more goading and arguing. I think you need to give Jim Harvey more time to do his job and prove that was a decent appointment. I very much doubt we'll see any improvement in the next couple of league games, it will take months because we basically need a whole new squad from what he inherited and so far we have three players (who must be wondering what all the fuss about Altrincham FC is).