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Both appeals fail
« on: June 10, 2010, 01:58:41 PM »

Salisbury and vics both expelled FGR stay up.Vics have requested christmas fixtures against either unicorn or sporting celtic.
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Re: Both appeals fail
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 02:43:39 PM »

On the plus side. Two cheating teams living beyond there means have got there just rewards.. I have to say it will be nice not to continually read posts about Vics dodgy deals etc..

On the negative side. Its another slog to that fkn souless pit that is Fkn Grim Rovers

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Re: Both appeals fail
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2010, 04:34:17 PM »

Obviously Sneaky Peakey will still demand that FGR go down "For the good of the game" ??? As those in the relegation deserve to go down no matter what ?? Or have opinions changed I wonder ?
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Re: Both appeals fail
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2010, 06:46:42 PM »


On the negative side. Its another slog to that fkn souless pit that is Fkn Grim Rovers



And the fact we'll toss off another 2 goal advantage.

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Re: Both appeals fail
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 08:32:37 PM »

Where as at Salisbury we give away 3 goal leads or let in 4 in 8 minutes.  Whenever we play near me we're terrible!
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Re: Both appeals fail
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2010, 08:42:28 PM »

Forest Green will be absolutely spuds next season, so hopefully we'll set the record straight a little bit!  :)
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Re: Both appeals fail
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2010, 11:22:17 PM »

They were absolutely spuds THIS season, and we still contrived to make them look good.
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Aussie Bob

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Re: Both appeals fail
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2010, 01:43:02 AM »

Could be the end of Vics ...depending on how appendix e is implemented next year they may be in the same place at end of next season and get dumped down even further the pyramid. If they decide not to go into admin then they would have to reform and be start again in NWCL level.
If FGR are 1.5 million pounds in debt then they are toast. They dont have the support base to cover that sort of debt they will have to be part time and pay peanuts . Admin then appendix e to kick in and then they will be back in some extremely tinpot league in the country.... 
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Re: Both appeals fail
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2010, 02:08:35 AM »

Could be the end of Vics ...depending on how appendix e is implemented next year they may be in the same place at end of next season and get dumped down even further the pyramid. If they decide not to go into admin then they would have to reform and be start again in NWCL level.
If FGR are 1.5 million pounds in debt then they are toast. They dont have the support base to cover that sort of debt they will have to be part time and pay peanuts . Admin then appendix e to kick in and then they will be back in some extremely tinpot league in the country.... 


Vics are now under the membership rules of the Evostick (unibond) premier, who have different rules and regulations to the conference. Further, it is only the conference that demand all debt is paid back by the end of the season. League clubs rejected a similar proposal at their lastest AGM.
Northwich do already  have some tinpot fixtures next season. Some outfit called FCUM, whoever they are??

Though i dont condone any club paying above their means, and using a CVA to pay back less than they have used up. i feel the punishment dished out is disproportionate. I applaud the conference for ensuring all debts are paid back but what happens if some club is forced into administration over £1000, are they then thrown out if it isnt paid by the end of the season? What happens if the insolvancy event happens a few days before the deadline? why not allow clubs to pay instalments for the full amount? simply throwing a club out of the league does not help them at all. These clubs lose further sponsorship, have lower attandaces, and thus lower income to fund the same amount of debt. Surely the conferene should be helping the lost sheep back into fold, rather then taking them to the nearest slaugter house.

Then again vics are looking to go on a costly court venture, when they should be paying back their debts.
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2010, 03:24:45 AM »

I have read elsewhere that Unibond Evostick will be implementing appendix E for next season...even if not so how will Vics get back into Conference if they are still in a CVA ?

If you overspend and put a team on the pitch that you cant afford /never could afford then why should you stay in that league ?
What punishment do you suggest ?

And if a club gets put in admin for a thousand pounds then its poked ...insolvency a few days before AGM ? what you didnt notice your spiralling debts and inability to pay them before then ? i dont think anyone can just come and tap you on the shoulder and say your are in admin ..

Lost sheep ? maybe Bo Peep should be the new Vics chairman


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Re: Both appeals fail
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2010, 07:51:29 AM »

Maybe the sheep shouldn't get lost in the first place?  Knowingly and continually spending money that you don't have so to get better players etc is one of the biggest forms of cheating in football. When things come to a head the club should suffer accordingly. You slash your wage bill and pay the debt in full, or you drop down the leagues.
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2010, 08:21:23 AM »

As I have said before, Jim Rushe has achieved his goal, he said before he put the money in for Vics that he would like to run a Unibond Pemier level team. Well done, it's achieved after only a couple of years at the helm.
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Re: Both appeals fail
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2010, 08:28:42 AM »


If you overspend and put a team on the pitch that you cant afford /never could afford then why should you stay in that league ?
What punishment do you suggest ?



We'd have an extremely small Premiership then wouldn't we if this was applied all the way up and how about if they applied the same principles to business?

Probably we should be glad that these measures weren't in place when we were outbidding everyone else (and being very successful on the pitch) rather than being all self righteous and gloating over other peoples misfortune?
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Re: Both appeals fail
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2010, 09:09:59 AM »

English football is a disgrace. The whole game is on its arse, only a matter of time before the bubble completely bursts.

Its eating itself from the inside, glamour is more important than the 'peoples game'. Grass roots football is about plucking kids to throw in the machine and not creating a game for everyone to play. Im not against clubs developing commercially but theres never a second thought for how affordable it is.

Good riddance to vics
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