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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Does the £5 offer bother you?
« on: February 22, 2018, 05:10:37 PM »
This is NOT a team issue, PP and the team deserve all the plaudits for the way we are operating at this level.

Surely the board deserve at least some of the plaudits for this, backing the manager with a decent sized budget, the resource made available via the statszone in Rob Esteva amongst other things.


Yet our crowd size is underwhelming to say the least and there is no atmosphere at all.

Looking back 2 seasons ago when we were still in the conf national ( I think the highest level we've ever operated at ! ), there were Sat crowds of 861 vs Braintree, 869 vs Kidderminster, so lower than we got last Saturday.




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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Does the £5 offer bother you?
« on: February 15, 2018, 10:38:44 PM »
I think it should be run just twice a season, let them experience Alty and then it’s up to them to return at full price.

Then focus on other groups with various offers including regular fans.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: CSH
« on: February 07, 2018, 09:56:43 AM »
Lets not forget the old club bar and the size of that - even with just half the hall we've probably already got a bar double the size of the old bar with the benefit of catering available too.

The crowd was 600 and half a bar wasnt enough for some ? The Warrington game was 1400+ - was the full bar therefore not big enough and we should make an even bigger bar?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Home Advantage
« on: February 04, 2018, 10:10:48 AM »
I’d have no issue with us installing a 4g pitch. There would have to be a guarantee that should we be in a position to be promoted to the football league it would be removed without question should it be at a point before the football league allow them, and that the reserves, ladies team, youth team etc are all kept in-house utilising it as much as possible.

That wouldnt work for the juniors - 3G is hard to secure in this area, hence we wouldnt be likely to release any of our current venues/slots if we know the "new" 3G pitch will be ripped up should we reach the football league - we'd be stranded then with no 3G.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Home Advantage
« on: February 04, 2018, 10:08:44 AM »
Sorry - on reading my post again, it's badly worded and open to misinterpretation. Apologies to anybody I unintentionally offended (I'm still one of the disaffected myself after all !)

I'm trying to open discussion on whether our long lease, which most of us applauded at the time, is actually a good thing.

Besides the pitch issues, there is a lot about our ground that would need improvement if we were to progress. I would favour 4G if I were to accept that we would never reach the Football League - but I'll never abandon my 60 year old dream.

The CSH is a great asset, but other areas of the ground are old and tired (so am I).

Anyone got thoughts on this ?

Let's say it cost £200k minus all the grants and funding, and it took us 4 years to get to the football league, I'd like to think we could earn 50k a earn in revenue to cover the installation.

We could then rip it up and install grass for our football league season.

I'd rather we have grass...

I'm pretty sure no one would give a grant to see you rip it up in 4 years!

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Halifax install revolving door...
« on: February 01, 2018, 04:53:31 PM »
Back from retirement is he!

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Alty TV - Highlights Vs Warrington Town
« on: January 29, 2018, 04:01:36 PM »
The officials were last into the CSH for food after the game - I heard the ref say they had been talking with the referee assessor !

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Warrington Match Thread 4
« on: January 26, 2018, 09:31:21 AM »
I just hope they call it off in good time nice and early, not leaving it to the last minute like those twits at Stourbridge

Should call it tomorrow afternoon imo

If it were a team travelling distance maybe - but theyre only 25 minutes down the road !  Unless its obviously not playable I'd leave it up to the ref to call at 1:30.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: FANTASY FOOTBALL - SEASON 2
« on: January 16, 2018, 01:41:03 PM »
I'd hardly call it a farce, a bit unfair on something that is
a) an external system,
b) the first time its been run,
c) people volunteering time to try and make it work,
d) free,
e) it was stated originally it would only run until January and then reset.

No pleasing some people.


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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Ejected from the ground
« on: January 01, 2018, 07:48:36 PM »
Im sure he was banned several years ago for a racial abuse incident - I wouldnt expect that ban to ever be changed hence is still in force ?


Altrincham FC
25 March 2012 ·
Altrincham FC chairman Grahame Rowley has issued the following statement regarding the incident at yesterday's game:

"Following the behaviour of one of our supporters, Dennis Birch, during the game this afternoon, the Board have decided to ban Mr Birch from Moss Lane. His behaviour is unacceptable to the club.

I have apologised on behalf of the Football Club to the player involved, his manager and the Chairman of Solihull Moors. They have accepted the apology and, as far as both clubs are concerned, this is an end to the matter. As stated recently in the matchday programme, racial abuse will not be tolerated at Altrincham Football Club".

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Ejected from the ground
« on: January 01, 2018, 07:46:58 PM »
Im sure he was banned several years ago for a racial abuse incident - I wouldnt expect that ban to ever be changed hence is still in force ?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: AGM this evening...
« on: November 23, 2017, 09:37:31 PM »

Ok, thanks. I’ll take that as a possibly, then. I would think the 51% will go to one purchaser. Hope so anyhow. Any more fragmentation will just make it more unwieldy and unmanageable. Please think of me when/if you decide to sell, my request is genuine.

Atticus - I believe there are still shares available to purchase outside of the 51% from the club if you'd like to purchase.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: AGM this evening...
« on: November 22, 2017, 02:04:14 PM »


If you owned 100% then you would have control.



Yes, but I could elect directors to run it and control it day to day on my behalf.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: AGM this evening...
« on: November 22, 2017, 11:17:29 AM »


Its irrelevant how many shares a director owns in this discussion.

The shareholders - whoever they may be, elect the board of directors to run the club in their best interests. Thats where shareholder involvement ends.

At the AGM 16 shareholders turned up and supported the current board by re-electing Derek and electing Bill.

The board of directors then run the club/business together as they see fit - I've not seen the internal constitution of the board rules but I assume within a board meeting the directors have an equal say and vote in any decisions, possibly a casting vote from the chairman if there is a tie.

You may disagree with the shareholder's appointment of directors - but that is their choice as they own the club.

You may disagree with the directors running of the club - but again it is their remit to run the club as best they see fit and make many decisions each year to do so.


Of course, it's relevant. Without Shareholders making him a director, he could not be chairman.

Point 1. The shareholders elect a man with just 4% to the board of directors. This is done because of his Simon Richman attitude to being a director and an easy choice.
Point 2.  As the shareholders have yet to elect anyone other than Grahame who wants his job, they have essentially given him the control of the club (By appointing him head of the people "whose remit to run the club as best they see fit").

He owns run 4% but given the position, he has carved himself into (the club wouldn't run without him, they cry, his influence and therefore control is far greater than the 4% which he owns.



Its still not relevant. Shareholders every day elect directors, chairman etc who have 0% of the company - you dont need to own a company to run it - I could own 100% of Alty and elect whoever I like to run - its the shareholders free choice.

You state again " therefore control is far greater than the 4% which he owns" so the confusion continues - ownership is nothing to do with control. You cant have shareholders involved in decisions on day to day running or nothing would ever get done.



 

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: AGM this evening...
« on: November 22, 2017, 10:27:00 AM »


Can anyone tell me how we have allowed someone with 4% shares in the club to have so much power? To be the king maker? It's a scandal and a scandal we all allowed it to happen

We're back to that confusion between ownership and control.

Shareholders own the club.

The board of directors control and manage the club.

The shareholders elect the board of directors.
no confusion I never mentioned ownership, I said power which is control - I guess that was my point about 4% and power

You did - thats what 4% means - you own 4% of Altrincham Football Club.

My point is you could have no shares at all and still be a director with control.

Our shareholders and directors have allowed some with 4% to have far more power and control than they really should given how much he own.

Its irrelevant how many shares a director owns in this discussion.

The shareholders - whoever they may be, elect the board of directors to run the club in their best interests. Thats where shareholder involvement ends.

At the AGM 16 shareholders turned up and supported the current board by re-electing Derek and electing Bill.

The board of directors then run the club/business together as they see fit - I've not seen the internal constitution of the board rules but I assume within a board meeting the directors have an equal say and vote in any decisions, possibly a casting vote from the chairman if there is a tie.

You may disagree with the shareholders appointment of directors - but that is their choice as they own the club.

You may disagree with the directors running of the club - but again it is their remit to run the club as best they see fit and make many decisions each year to do so.



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