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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ALTY BEER FESTIVAL 2022
« on: May 15, 2022, 09:46:54 AM »
Dunham do an Alty Ale.

Don’t think our beers come from Thwaites Steve, their beers are mainly brewed by Marstons these days.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Forum back up 17.04.2022
« on: April 18, 2022, 02:57:04 PM »
Cheers Gary, really appreciate your work to keep this going.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: TOP OF THE NATIONAL LEAGUE
« on: April 10, 2022, 09:06:48 AM »
Does anyone really want Stevenage? Dreadful awayday.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Floodlights
« on: April 04, 2022, 09:42:07 PM »
Quote from: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 03, 2022, 08:20:59 PM


Debut of the floodlights at Moss Lane:

Monday, 4th April 1966

Cheshire County League

Altrincham 4  Witton Albion 3
I believe I have the programme from that game somewhere.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Macc Chav Massive
« on: February 11, 2022, 06:00:34 PM »
Hypothetically speaking, say we had a game called off maybe at Notts County, if we asked our coach drivers to divert to Macc so we could misbehave do you think they would? Who organises their travel?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: In the top five of the 'coldest you have ever been at an Alty game' category...
« on: December 14, 2021, 10:31:37 PM »
Quote from: Randy Konk on December 14, 2021, 01:55:39 PM
Whitby Town away circa 1999. Didn't warm up properly until Monday...

Was that the game where someone was despatched to get Leroy Chambers a pair of tights?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: In the top five of the 'coldest you have ever been at an Alty game' category...
« on: December 13, 2021, 10:19:27 PM »
Quote from: distancetraveller on December 13, 2021, 07:58:25 PM
Blyth in the FA Cup on a bitterly cold January day a few years back. We travelled up to ML from Shrewsbury and got on the fans coach. Bloody freezing afternoon.

Closely followed by Southend  a couple of weeks ago. I was still shivering and  I was in Bowdon before I started to warm up

I might have to rethink this, I went to a game at Blyth, the year escapes me, there was about 5" of snow in Newcastle but nothing on the coast but was it cold! In fact I remember the Alty fans behind the goal singing "It's Very Cold....Very Very Very Cold......"
I didn't think Ryhope was all that bad but the girl I took along seemed to think it was, she whinged non-stop for two hours. Never pleased are they?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: In the top five of the 'coldest you have ever been at an Alty game' category...
« on: December 12, 2021, 10:52:38 PM »
I went to the York 2nd Round game but I have to agree, Tow Law in 1983 with the snow piled around the pitch probably clinches it.
I did go to Wakefield (Emley) some years ago. rather naively, as it was quite balmy in London, I went in a T-shirt and thin zip up jacket. It was about 10C colder on arrival and I had to buy a cheap jumper off the market.
That Wakefield game was also the occasion where I had by a distance, the worst pie/food of any sort ever at a game.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Aldershot Match Thread
« on: December 07, 2021, 10:14:06 PM »
I saw Leatherhead v Enfield Town earlier this season (like you do) and found myself chatting to a group of Enfield fans of a certain vintage on the station after the game. They remembered our tussles of the 80s well, going so far as to reminisce (rather rudely I thought) over our Wembley Trophy defeat to them. I cheerfully told them how nice it was to be renewing old acquaintances with Wealdstone this year.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ground safety work
« on: December 04, 2021, 10:52:11 PM »
Where the P value is at its highest value of 1.0 the terrace capacity can be based on up to 4.7 persons per m2, not that comfortable, but realistically other factors such as the speed of exit and width of gates will have more of a bearing on a terrace capacity even where the terrace itself is in perfect condition.
Moss Lane is extremely difficult to assess as the terraces currently are not self-contained so free movement is theoretically possible around most of the ground.
With regards to smaller stadia, football grounds holding less than 5000 persons may not be designated unless they have been before or they have designated covered stands holding more than 500 persons.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ground safety work
« on: December 04, 2021, 02:47:32 PM »
Quote from: altyusa on December 04, 2021, 02:35:30 PM
I’m watching the Buxton game right now.  Their perimeter fence looks identical to ours.  Fans are up against the perimeter fence at this game.   Surely the same safety rules apply at Buxton.  Has their perimeter fence been inspected and approved as a crush barrier?   Is it something to do with stewarding when it comes to being allowed on the fence?  Just wondering…..


Probably won't have been considered, Buxton's av league gate is around 450.
It will be as much to keep walkways clear as loading on the fence (which is clearly not designed for such, the cross sectional area of the members alone show that).

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ground safety work
« on: November 22, 2021, 09:48:29 PM »
Quote from: blackpoolalty on November 22, 2021, 08:41:53 AM
Quote from: CRT Butty on November 20, 2021, 07:44:53 PM
Quote from: MarpleAlty on November 20, 2021, 07:11:06 PM
Quote from: Leon on November 20, 2021, 06:43:43 PM
Quote from: MarpleAlty on November 20, 2021, 09:30:35 AM
Maybe I'm being naive, but it reads to me like a complaint from a disgruntled neighbour to the ground.

Sometimes people want to ignore the most obvious answer. And let's face it, the work needs doing.

I think you are being extremely naive, which is ironic given how quick you are to pick up on what you perceive as naivety in others.

Why on earth would a disgruntled neighbour complain about the state of the terracing on the Golf Rd? How would they even know about it? The statement from the board makes it perfectly clear that the complaint came from someone they hoped would have come to them first. That would hardly apply to a disgruntled neighbour.

When have I suggested naivety in others? Genuine question if you think I've been a bit unreasonable in the past, I'm always happy to hold my hand up.

For me, the statement ('wish they'd come to us first') doesn't sound like an insider with an axe to grind - it reads like someone that's turned up to a game and then complained - we all have members within our friend and family circles that are only happy when moaning.

I don't sign up to this 'inside knowledge' either - any visit from a member of the council with two funtional eyes would have identified the ground is a mess.

Re: signed off fine at the start of the season - responding to a complaint means you have to be shown to be doing something, not a routine inspection. Of course the outcome would be different.

Sorry for being the voice of reason and I'll be sad to see that it's an inside job if I am indeed wrong.

Somebody spots something wrong and notifies the council / whomever.

Council confirms safety work needs doing, thus confirming that we Alty fans were in an unacceptable level of danger.

Whomever spotted the defects and started the repair works, I thank you. You did the right thing whether we like it or not.

You’re  in danger at every possible time in your life.

At home? Gas explosion
In the car? Car accident
Walking down the road? Hit by an asteroid

If you think some wonky walls, loose concrete and non running water to the new fan zone is “totally unacceptable” I’d suggest burying your head under a rock forever

That really is a bit of a daft thing to say. Leaving out the third item, which in fairness there would be no control over, the other two chances are mitigated by safety regulations............rather like what is going on here. No one likes it or welcomes it but it certainly isn't petty. Once a risk comes to light, to ignore it is negligent, possibly criminally so. What must be done must be done.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ground safety work
« on: November 17, 2021, 11:15:37 PM »
Steve's comment above is probably somewhere near the mark. As a Building Control Surveyor of 35 years I know how these things work. The Local Authority are responsible for the designated stadia in their area, and would normally inspect a number of times a year, including during performance inspections (when a match is on). Now it is quite possible that we were left relatively alone while our gates hovered around a 1200 average, with a smaller median as the average is bumped up by the bigger games. Our bigger gates will not have gone unnoticed and I would expect, have generated the need for a fuller inspection. It is not just the facilities, it is how we manage the event, stewarding, announcements, crowd control etc. were they at the Solihull game when that pillock ran on? They will certainly know about it.
As it is usually Building Control who do SASG (not always, they could use consultants), but BC will be inspecting the Fans Zone; did the visiting Surveyor notice things and pass it on? He would have a duty to if concerned.
If there are trip hazards on the terracing then it is dangerous, a different matter to street potholes. Persons falling suddenly amongst a crowd say celebrating a goal will cause others to fall over them too, it could lead to a serious incident. As for structural concerns obviously they would need to be assessed very closely, that might be from a follow up visit with a qualified Structural Engineer, hence the second reduction. That's usually how it would work. All speculation obviously but it would follow logically.
The ground is very tired and the only real surprise to me is that we got away with this condition for as long as we did.
I do however not understand how we were awarded the larger capacity last year, it doesn't stack up at all.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Borehamwood Wood Match Thread
« on: November 14, 2021, 10:46:12 PM »
Quote from: Saughall Robin on November 14, 2021, 09:46:37 PM
Quote from: HashtagAlty on November 14, 2021, 08:04:27 PM
Quote from: Condate Alty on November 14, 2021, 07:43:50 PM
Quote from: HashtagAlty on November 14, 2021, 04:26:28 PM

 

 
 
 

Seems to me that Condates original comments were nothing but complimentary. I can't understand why you're having a go at him.
I can only say that we should be revelling in the direction the club is going in and being united in our support.
Sorry to be personal but you seem to have had an edge to some of your posts for a while now.
Rein it in a bit if you can. We're all on here because we're Alty fans aren't we?


Yes totally uncalled for I thought.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ground safety work
« on: November 13, 2021, 10:03:34 PM »
If it is the corrugated stuff on the roof it is cementitious therefore quite benign unless someone is silly with it. Same stuff you find on old garage roofs.

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