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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Crowds back ????
« on: April 17, 2021, 06:22:11 AM »
Just been on the Spurs website sounds like 1st October is when Boris will allow fans back! SBL

I thought that was when he was having his fourth lockdown. :)

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Hulme
« on: April 17, 2021, 06:10:00 AM »
Another thought, if Jordan Hulme had done something that bad, would PP have brought him back (allegedly) or the club allowed it, when you consider the sort of club we are? Let's wait until we know more.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Danny Elliott (Chester)
« on: April 17, 2021, 06:07:50 AM »
I reckon a Jordon Holme type striker who can hold up the ball would be ideal for Alty who could be good for the likes of Hancock and Colclough .

Too right, if he's back, I'll be delighted. At the end of the day, we're Alty not Chesterfield. People need to be a bit realistic.

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Also talks about doing the right thing doesn't he? Wasn't there a fixture earlier this season when another club were a bit intransigent? Hartlepool? I'm glad anyway :)

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Hulme
« on: April 17, 2021, 05:50:27 AM »
I've made comments to the contrary in the past, but to play devil's advocate towards those commenting on "the way he left" none of us still really know the details.

None of us wanted him to go, how much was his choice and how much came from the club? We can all agree that whatever fee we got must have been substantial enough to warrant our board making such a decision.

I am not sure if I would have him back either, but if anyone can get the best out of him it is PP and NS.

I'd made my peace with him leaving, but he spends the first days mocking our new strike-force of Tom Peers.

He'd spent the first few months at altrincham taking about playing at NL level.

I'd have had no issue with him going to Wrexham, Notts County or even Fylde if they'd remained at this level with us.

Is that actually true? As I recall, he tweeted in his farewell message to Alty fans something along the lines of "I leave you in the capable hands of Tom Peers". Your interpretation of that is him taking the mickey out of TP (on the assumption that Hulme must share your low opinion of Peers). I think it's more likely he was giving him his genuine (if misjudged) backing to take his place. Did he say anything more beyond that?

If you include his cup record this season, Peers is about one goal every three games (270 minutes). Short of doing a Salford City, what do you want?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Hulme
« on: April 17, 2021, 05:45:30 AM »
I would have loved it if he hadn't left but since he has done, I think I'm leaning towards hashtags opinion.
If we needed someone for Durrells position, I'd welcome him back but we don't.

Deary me. As I hinted at, Adam Rooney went to Salford City, scored 21 goals - how mch did they pat for him? (And he was in the first team for Aberdeen at the time). How much was paid for Marriot? As I said, it would be a tremendous achievement for the club to get a 15 goal a season striker. If he comes here and plays to his ability, and if we can afford it, it's a no-brainer.

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I think it's clear to everyone that we're not going to be able to get a millennium-high end of season position unless we're very very lucky indeed.
But the main thing is that we've improved year on year and we'd have been more than happy with our present position. With a few exceptions we've been very competitive.
We all (including the management team) know where we need to improve but we've got to stay working within our means and trust PP and co to come through. I'm convinced they will
I believe everyone on here has the best interests of Alty at heart and I'm heartened that virtually all 'criticism' is well meant and constructive. I'd hate PP to read the forum and think we weren't behind him. We all are, and we need to recognise how great we're doing against some big outfits.


At the very least we'll finish highest of the four promoted teams and that's good in itself. To finish in the top half, which could still happen, was beyond my wildest dreams at the start of the season.

Come on you Supers!!!!

I think you're being a bit pessimistic there. If we can reach 52 points from our 42 games that would be our best return on ppg at this level since 1996. That's 11 points from the remaining nine games, seven of which are at home - still perfectly doable.
58 points in 2009-10 if you count the Chester games, equivalent to about 53 this season. Still, as far as I'm concerned, we've done very well, and I would have been happy just to stay up. And we can reasonably hope to improve next season!

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Yeovil Match thread
« on: April 14, 2021, 05:41:09 AM »
Yes very bizarre all these new stewards

Actually, it was us who were due to play Macclesfield on 22nd May, while Yeovil were down to play Dover, but the same principle applies.

As I have discussed offline, although it might seem unfair  to some that we get two home games with fans allowed at the end of the season, other clubs have already have fans present mid-season, so I see no reason why we can't, as it is after the government's step when fans are allowed at elite matches.
just buy a high vis jacket and become a steward and watch every game
more about now than when we played Chester at home 👀😂😭

Wayno, give us a song, Wayno, Wayno, give us a song!

And let's loan some of the ground to be used as "gardens", like at Marine (v Spurs) - and let's get someone to put a shed half way up one of those houses behind the Chequers End while we're at it! ;)

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Crowds back ????
« on: April 14, 2021, 05:23:05 AM »
No chance this season.

Dates likely extended as suggested.

So called lockdowns were supposed to be a last resort to prevent hospitalisation and premature deaths, but they have now become the norm. Government does not want to screw this up and has become risk averse as a result. Disproportionate measures to risk will still be in place post vaccination of all the other 50s by end of March. So fully expect to see things slip further. So no footy this season with crowds

Sorry - having a Hugh moment



And for the record... last I heard, less than 100 healthy people under 40 have died of cv (in the UK), and less than 1000 healthy under 60's. Asymptomatic transmission appears to be largely a myth as a spreader (how many teachers have died by catching it from their pupils?).

At the end of the day, everyone who wants one of those "vaccines" will have had one by autumn, and cv deaths look set to be less than 20/day this week - a lower rate (adjusted for population) than road deaths in 1960. And I guarantee they'll be low in summer, as I said. I just don't see what the problem is, and repeat, if we don't have fans back in May, something is very wrong. If not May, then when? Or is this supposed to carry on permanently? In which case you can forget non-league football as we know it. If only people understood risk assessment....

And no, Casper, this isn't politics, it's making the case for people to be allowed to watch Altrincham fc, the thing we all live for (well sort of). And I will be touching people if invited!

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Happy Easter - I wish! (o/t - ish)
« on: April 14, 2021, 04:59:05 AM »
Hugh - This is a football forum for Altrincham FC. Not a political discussion arena - see the daily mail for that.

It is common sense to do a risk assessment of returning, and you will be fully aware that many businesses have felt enforcing everyone has been vaccinated will reduce any potential claims or issues resulting from employees becoming ill.
Many businesses are worried that if they do not enforce everyone having vaccinations before returning to an office, that they may be liable if an employee returns, has covid, infects a person or, persons. In the worse case scenario of an employee dying because they contracted covid from a colleague whilst at work, the company could very well be liable under health and safety at work.

Not political discussion? Isn't it?  Look at yesterday's thread! :)

Besides, this business has quite a lot to do with Altrincham fc at the moment. As I said, no positive discrimination. I want everyone to be able to attend games next season. And football clubs have got involved in politics where necessary. (Charlton Athletic spring to mind).

Anyway, back to the football... I checked the goal scorers for the last full National League season (2018-19) - 9 goals (my Tom Peers projection for this season's NL if he played all of every game in a 46 game season) would have put you joint 28th top scorer. And a few club's top scorers were even less than that.  Admittedly, strikers are unlikely to play 46 games of 90 minutes in a league season (even when there are 46 NL games available!). Still, remind me of the going rate for a 20 goal a season NL striker - or even 15 goal a season. Make no mistake, it will be a tremendous achievement if the club can find one. And I hope they do, of course...

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Alty Away Dayz Next Season...
« on: April 14, 2021, 04:15:47 AM »
My favourite old school bogs were at Workington, about 20 years ago for a match against Bradford. Overgrown, and I'm pretty sure unchanged from the FL days. Bootham Crescent wasn't bad too. Incidentally, why did they never replace the toilets by the popular side? Used to be a snack bar there too.
What, inside the toilets?
Near enough. Can't have been more than a few yards between them and the Safe hut/snack bar/broom cupboard.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Ramadan Project
« on: April 14, 2021, 03:58:50 AM »
That's the trouble when you start bringing politics into it. There's no positive discrimination, just discrimination, some say. Still, there is this to be said. I remember reading an article some years ago about how young "Asian" players were not being given a chance by professional football clubs because apparently the hierarchy at such organisations had an attitude that "Asians" did not make good footballers, and feeling shocked that such attitudes persisted in football in the 21st century. It featured a player who was setting all sorts of records in an amateur league but was not getting a look in when he went for trials. My bottom line is that everyone from whatever background should be given a fair chance, so anything that can help to give such players the chance they deserve, as long as it is respectful to everyone, must be a good thing.

In the spirit of increasing understanding, I  should add that I will never go to a match at 3pm on Good Friday, this being the holiest hour in the Christian year (and I'm sure our vibrant community of Kerala Catholics would agree), which obviously makes it less worth while for me to get a season ticket whilst leagues and clubs persist in this practice. (I'm obviously speaking as a Christian, for those who don't know...)

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What's the stats on Tom Peers?

League: 1386 mins 3 goals
Cup: 251 mins 3 goals

Thank you. So by my calculations,  equivalent to one goal every three games then (plus at least a couple of disallowed goals). All from open play weren't they? So the same from open play as Hancock (he scored 5 penalties) - or more if some of his were from free kicks. And in a team that are the 18th best goalscorers (per game) in the NL. Out of 22. (Though admittedly some of that was against Barnton in a CSC game that was too dangerous for us elite supporters to attend. Officially. Even so, one in every 5 games in the NL, or 9 in a season approx).
You know, I was thinking on Saturday, if Peers had missed some of those chances, he'd have got slated. Looks like I might be right. I still say he's a good player to bring on against tiring defences

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Alty Away Dayz Next Season...
« on: April 13, 2021, 04:20:51 AM »
My favourite old school bogs were at Workington, about 20 years ago for a match against Bradford. Overgrown, and I'm pretty sure unchanged from the FL days. Bootham Crescent wasn't bad too. Incidentally, why did they never replace the toilets by the popular side? Used to be a snack bar there too.

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Wasn't that the time Wrexham brought about 1600 on the bank holiday? I suppose 1000 Wrexham fans getting drunk in Manchester and then rolling up at ML wouldn't have been a very good idea.

Still the most impressive away support I've seen at Alty. They were singing on 3 sides as I remember, and fortunately rather better behaved then some supporters of a neighbouring club.

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