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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: I wonder if they are worth a trial...
« on: October 01, 2012, 09:54:15 PM »
Good mates with Nick Crerand (grandson of Paddy), and he is a very good footballer, would be well worth a look

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Next challenge for Reevesy!
« on: September 27, 2012, 11:37:33 AM »
The only requirement of a legal kick off is that the ball moves forward from the centre spot

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: The magic of the FA Cup
« on: September 22, 2012, 07:17:10 PM »
whens the draw for the next round?

I think it's usually this Monday at 12

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Last night's england v ukraine ref...
« on: September 12, 2012, 07:18:14 PM »
On a serious level, did you just expect the defender to let him walk past without a challenge? Defenders job by nature is to impede and get in the way of threats to their goal

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Last night's england v ukraine ref...
« on: September 12, 2012, 03:50:38 PM »
Think welbeck was fouled for the non pen, it was clear the challenge impeded wellbeck and he shouldnt have to go to ground to prove this.

"Mister Referee, the horrible defender stood in the way and stopped me walking straight through towards the goal".

Get a grip

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Shildon away in FA Cup
« on: September 10, 2012, 03:48:52 PM »
I agree it's a banana skin.....if we're not careful it could turn into a hot potato......

We knew that whatever the draw, it was always going to be a hard one (Halifax, Chester ect.) or a banana skin

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: what a joke
« on: August 27, 2012, 03:43:02 PM »
2-1 and playing better- if he takes the flak for when they're sh*te then Sinnott can take the credit for the improvement

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Chester Fans Pouring in!!!!!
« on: August 27, 2012, 02:30:19 PM »
Have these people never heard of pubs :o

I'm not complaining, the longer theyre in our stadium the longer they have to give their money to us

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Starting 11 for Vauxhall
« on: August 24, 2012, 08:26:08 PM »
What are we coming to when we are considering resting players after 2 competitive games?

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Give me an "A"...
« on: August 19, 2012, 01:52:24 PM »
VofD in sack the manager shocker

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Brawling league
« on: August 17, 2012, 05:06:31 AM »
first of all I'd have gone across to the liner, waved the players away telling them i wanted to consult in peace if and they didn't walk away i'd just give the penalty without consultation... I'd have had a consultation and decided if the guy was sane or not....the ref must have seen the woking player trip himself so if it had been me I'd have told the liner he was an arsehole and awarded a drop ball....

wouldn't then have had to deal with the jostling would I?...cause and effect.....

If I'd given the pen then i'd have dealt with the jostling rather than changing my mind mid goosestep march to book the keeper...I'd probably wave the yellow to the keeper on the way....

time for you to get a horse....why book one player for doing what half a dozen players were doing?...why not deal with the jostling first and then deal with the keeper...it was inept....indefensible display backed up by the usual haughty pompous stance that just gets everyone's backs up.

Not seen a ref lose it so completely and look so sad really just blowing his whistle to no effect.....

So dishing out cards willy nilly to anyone who pushes or shoves and ending up with 3 players on the field without a booking is the answer then?

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Brawling league
« on: August 16, 2012, 12:28:31 PM »
what an absolutly clueless and inept ref aided and abetted by an appraently blind liner!!!...and just look at the pompous git as he gives the pen for something he didn't see.......one of the best adolf hitler impressions ever!!

I'd wager a fotune the ref was awful right through the 90 minutes...books someone for questioning the liner when half a dozen other player were doing the same, sees three players practically wrestling but chooses to book the keeper instead so it's no wonder the players thought it ok to fight after the goal.

Time to take you down a notch from your high horse.

What would you do, assuming you took your linesman's advice and gave the penalty?

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Brawling league
« on: August 15, 2012, 08:10:52 PM »
That ref was properly terrible.  Booking the guy for talking to the assistant (OK I couldn't hear what he was saying) but he wasn't in his face or anything and then before the pen is taken the blue no 10 has his hands on the Woking lads neck - told to stop it but no further action and then book the keeper for coming off his line when the penalty clearly wasn't about to be taken.  I imagine it could be used as an exam question at ref school - Apart from getting the original penalty decision wrong, what did he do wrong here?

'Comments are disabled for this video' I can't think why!

I doubt he was enquiring as to the linesman's wellbeing, so a caution for dissent was (probably) justified- the letter of the law could probably have seen him earn a dismissal for Offensive, Abusive and Insulting language but I have never seen that given.
The pre-penalty 'jostling' is similar to corners- penalise one, you have to do the lot.
Why shouldn't the keeper be booked? What reason does he have to do to amble 12 yards off his line, pick the ball up and have a chat to the taker?
And if you watched the clip again, you'll see it was actually the linesman who 'gave' the penalty (although using the old penalty signal)

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Brawling league
« on: August 15, 2012, 03:04:28 PM »
Back to the original footage, the ref looked like one of those "Look at me!" refs with his body language; chest out, head up type of thing.

You'd have a pop if the bloke sat down and had a brew while pretending nothing's going on though. And for the record, I was told when it gets a bit violent, blow your whistle repeatedly and take notes

Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Scott Phelan
« on: August 13, 2012, 11:51:26 AM »
Connors ??  Why not try Crowell???

While we're at it, could we not try and shoehorn Senior into midfield????

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