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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: VofD on February 06, 2010, 08:04:24 PM
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generated a crowd of 7261 Anyone think we should give it a go? Would be interesting to know what the actual cash take was.
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generated a crowd of 7261 Anyone think we should give it a go? Would be interesting to know what the actual cash take was.
Not if we're going to get our pants pulled down by Gateshead! :D
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Just been listening to 6.06 and a couple of people who went were on the phone in.
They reckon they paid £7.00 and £2.00 for two young lads. They also reckoned quite a few paid only 25p ?
And they ran out of burgers 10 minutes after kick off
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Did they all manage to see the enormous scoreboard ;D
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Did they all manage to see the enormous scoreboard ;D
No, but they were all bored by the score! ;) :D
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Grays at home on 27th FEB would be worth a try. Otherwise, it will be the hardcore 6-700 again with 12 from Grays, Surely worth a go, especially after today's performance.
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it was a success incept for the teams poor performance, the attendance is a load of crap.
The South stand and West were packed so, thats 7,500 then the others who couldn't get in ended up being in the north stand sharing some lovely banter with the Gateshead fans, the real figure is around 8,000
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Jesus dont suggest this at Alty - George H will hav a heart attack of the thought of having to get more turnstile operators. The poor chap already spends most of his Thursday night ringing round to see if operators are available.
ONLY JOKING IT'S A GREAT IDEA IF IT GETS MORE PPL TO ML + MORE £ IN THE COFFERS.
Having said that tho i dont think it would work at Alty. we may get 2000 using this scheme against Grays but would it benefit us in the pocket. I have had some fans wanting to pay sometimes tho even if they didnt have to (ie when they had comp tkts)
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This idea could work for Alty but we need to plan it well to maximise profits from the extra resources we will have to input.
If we are letting people in for next to nothing we need to make money off them when they are inside the ground.
With a crowd of 1000 it can take half an hour to get a coffee and the bar is full at half-time therefore with 2-3000 people it would be hard to gain extra revenue from those extra numbers.
We would need to get in temporary facilities to realise the potential of the day, the form that these would take I am not entirely sure as I do not know the rules and limitations of the club.
An extra food van in the corner by the old SAFE hut with a split on profits done with the owner? (Offer the pitch for a lower rate and take the profit share)
The bar is harder to enlarge as we cannot sell beer on the terrace! however we could have a makeshift "can bar" in the corner and get people to breathe in!
Just some Sunday morning thoughts, I have the dubious please of hospitality at Chelsea v Arsenal this afternoon, maybe I can pick up some hot tips from the Ruski and friends, I expect they started with a can bar on Fulham Broadway..
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Could try it for a game as a lot of people haven't been since the £2 for an U16 days,
Be prepared for the scallies though we don't get many this might see them back,
The idea is good overall as crowds could be better
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Jesus dont suggest this at Alty - George H will hav a heart attack of the thought of having to get more turnstile operators. The poor chap already spends most of his Thursday night ringing round to see if operators are available.
ONLY JOKING IT'S A GREAT IDEA IF IT GETS MORE PPL TO ML + MORE £ IN THE COFFERS.
Having said that tho i dont think it would work at Alty. we may get 2000 using this scheme against Grays but would it benefit us in the pocket. I have had some fans wanting to pay sometimes tho even if they didnt have to (ie when they had comp tkts)
I believe Mansfield doudled their normal attendance - 2000 would double our average and maybe get a few more interested (especially if we can do another 5-0!)
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If we were to investigate something like this it would have to be against a lesser outfit against whom the attendance would be pretty poor anyway and crucially who we *should* in theory win against-ie a Hayes/Grays/Salisbury type team. I don't think getting the publicity would be a problem-our PR seems a lot better these days that what it once was and Mansfield had the media crawling all over them yesterday. It would be as Rocky rightly says the logistical side of it all, food, bar, programmes etc etc. Mansfield apparently ran out of burgers only 10 minutes in. It might need a bit of creative thinking but anything that raises our profile and could generate extra cash we should have a look at.
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Jesus dont suggest this at Alty - George H will hav a heart attack of the thought of having to get more turnstile operators. The poor chap already spends most of his Thursday night ringing round to see if operators are available.
If something like this was to happen i'm sure a few people would volunteer to help out on the turnstiles or behind the bar, just as a one off.
I'd like to think we could get a crowd of over 2,500. I imagine most people would pay between £1-£5, although with enough catering they would probably spend £10 inside the ground. Just procuring 500 pies might be a problem
Of those 1,500 floaters/non regulars, would it be unreasonable to expect 5% of them to start turning out regularly ,thats 75 more people on every gate.
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If relations between Alty and Pantsfield weren't as poor as they are I'd suggest asking Pantsfield in a couple of months what they tihik the longer term plusses have been.
Peronally I'd support a move by Alty to do this. It needs planning, it needs coverage and it needs pies.
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The key to anything like this is advertising and telling the world about it.
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The key to anything like this is advertising and telling the world about it.
and on a day when city and united are either not playing or playing away.
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The key to anything like this is advertising and telling the world about it.
This is true.
What annoys me is that I know for a fact that Brian Flynn sent out a press release to everyone you could possibly think of advertising the armed forces day for the Salisbury game.
Despite his best efforts I don't think that story appeared anywhere of note.
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I didn't see anyone who resembled a resprentative or member of the armed forces ?
Did any of them turn up ?
Perhaps they all turned up in their camouflague outfits and we couldn't see them ? ??? ;D ::)
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Thats like saying I didn't see any painters there yesterday...well no one covered in emulsion anyway
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Not sure if we can "gamble" with the core gate money even for one week.
I guess that with a 850 gate the cash take (ex season tickets obviously) would be in the range of £5,000 - £7,000.
If 2,000 turned up - which I think would be the maximum, I honestly don't think many would be hooked for future games.... and we'd need an average of £3 each to get the same income AND have to take a risk on more programmes, pies etc. so that we can provide a good experience. No point getting 2,000 in and then people not being able to get a prog, hot drink or pint and some grub.
What if 1,000 only show up and give us a quid each.... £5-6000 gone.
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Does anyone know much of our club's revenue comes from gate receipts and how much from other sources?
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Thats like saying I didn't see any painters there yesterday...well no one covered in emulsion anyway
A few more 5 - 0 wins and we will all be painting the town red
I'll get me coat.. (or should that be Undercoat)
;) :D
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On a serious note.. What would people on this forum pay if we did try the "Pay what you want" idea.
on a personal note I would still pay the 13 quid I normally pay.. I am not trying to be virtuous by posting this, I am generally interested in what regular fans who post on here would actually pay...
I realise some people maybe wouldnt watch an Alty game due to money being tight. Having said that getting a fiver off someone is better than them not coming due to the 13 quid normal entrance fee
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I was thinking, maybe naively that the regular 800 or so would pay the normal money but maybe bring some others that would chip in less.
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On a serious note.. What would people on this forum pay if we did try the "Pay what you want" idea.
on a personal note I would still pay the 13 quid I normally pay.. I am not trying to be virtuous by posting this, I am generally interested in what regular fans who post on here would actually pay...
I realise some people maybe wouldnt watch an Alty game due to money being tight. Having said that getting a fiver off someone is better than them not coming due to the 13 quid normal entrance fee
As a Season Ticket holder I've already stumped up my cash and asking what people on here pay would be preaching to the converted as I'm guessing that most people on here wouldn't want to sell the club short by paying less than the present rate.
It's the skinfllints that would seek to make a killing that would reduce the income.
I reckon you'd do better letting the kids in for a quid or free so long as they drag a parent or adult down ?
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On a serious note.. What would people on this forum pay if we did try the "Pay what you want" idea.
on a personal note I would still pay the 13 quid I normally pay.. I am not trying to be virtuous by posting this, I am generally interested in what regular fans who post on here would actually pay...
I realise some people maybe wouldnt watch an Alty game due to money being tight. Having said that getting a fiver off someone is better than them not coming due to the 13 quid normal entrance fee
the £13.00.
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A couple of years ago we let kids in free for our last home game against Aldershot. A lot of hard work was done publicising this in schools etc. and we got a crowd of over 2,000.
There's no reason why this couldn't work again if there was sufficient promotion. However, it would need hard work from the fans to spread the word and make sure as many people as possible get to hear about it.
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On a serious note.. What would people on this forum pay if we did try the "Pay what you want" idea.
on a personal note I would still pay the 13 quid I normally pay.. I am not trying to be virtuous by posting this, I am generally interested in what regular fans who post on here would actually pay...
I realise some people maybe wouldnt watch an Alty game due to money being tight. Having said that getting a fiver off someone is better than them not coming due to the 13 quid normal entrance fee
As a Season Ticket holder I've already stumped up my cash and asking what people on here pay would be preaching to the converted as I'm guessing that most people on here wouldn't want to sell the club short by paying less than the present rate.
It's the skinfllints that would seek to make a killing that would reduce the income.
I reckon you'd do better letting the kids in for a quid or free so long as they drag a parent or adult down ?
Good point about season ticket holders matey.. Maybe a free pint or pie and chips etc would be fair to the folks who paid up front for a season ticket,
Just as I thought the regulars are happy to pay the normal price also.
Makes good reading..
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A couple of years ago we let kids in free for our last home game against Aldershot. A lot of hard work was done publicising this in schools etc. and we got a crowd of over 2,000.
There's no reason why this couldn't work again if there was sufficient promotion. However, it would need hard work from the fans to spread the word and make sure as many people as possible get to hear about it.
It can't take too long to get a list of all the local Primary and Junior schools in the area out of the yellow pages, pick a particular match, decide on the deal (say one adult and one child for a combined price of say a tenner? ) print off 20 tickets to send with a covering letter to each school, inviting them to publicise the event and give a ticket to any interested child and/or parent.
The ticket would need to be presented at the turnstile with the appropriate money.
If the school needed more than the 20 tickets they should be encouraged to pick more up from the club.
and if the club were feeling particularly generous how about giving each kid that came through the turnstile on that scheme a free bag of crisps and/or bottle or can of pop ? (and an invitation and application form to join the Junior Robins !)
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I am a season ticket holder and wouldn't mind in the slightest if the club did this.
On another note, im 5 miles from Fleetwood and my lad has twice been given a 'child free with paying adult ticket' at school this year. On the ticket is the clubs website etc, which i then went on to have a nosy. I would estimate they're doing this at around 10-15 schools.
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It is a good point about the primary schools, but what annoys me is the price for secondary school kids. There are so many of them around here footballing mad, but between the ages of 16-18 lads will not pay £7 to come and watch Alty if they aren't a regular. I know this from experience, as I used to bring about 7 lads each game up until we were 15-16. Now 2 of us from that group remain!
I'd like to know on average how many teenagers come in under the concession rate a game, because I'm sure with the right advertising in the schools and a £3 entry fee, that we would see so many more younger people down at the ground, which could hopefully lead to ones staying on and therefore a bigger fan base!
I really do feel that the club is missing out on so many potential fans with the high price in relation to how much a kid will earn or gets as their pocket money!
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Jesus dont suggest this at Alty - George H will hav a heart attack of the thought of having to get more turnstile operators. The poor chap already spends most of his Thursday night ringing round to see if operators are available.
If something like this was to happen i'm sure a few people would volunteer to help out on the turnstiles or behind the bar, just as a one off.
I'd like to think we could get a crowd of over 2,500. I imagine most people would pay between £1-£5, although with enough catering they would probably spend £10 inside the ground. Just procuring 500 pies might be a problem
Of those 1,500 floaters/non regulars, would it be unreasonable to expect 5% of them to start turning out regularly ,thats 75 more people on every gate.
Did you read all of the post. This part you have quoted was said as a joke?
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I am a season ticket holder and wouldn't mind in the slightest if the club did this.
On another note, im 5 miles from Fleetwood and my lad has twice been given a 'child free with paying adult ticket' at school this year. On the ticket is the clubs website etc, which i then went on to have a nosy. I would estimate they're doing this at around 10-15 schools.
My wife works locally as a teacher and a few years ago showed me a circular they had received from Blackburn Rovers encouraging schools in Cheshire/Manchester to arrange a school party to selected Premiership games at Ewood Park.
Now there's a thought, why not extend the offer to Northwich schools ? Hmmmmmmm ::)
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Unfortunately I just don't think the set up at the club would allow us to justify this as we're just not geared up to effectively take money off people once they're in the ground.
It's a nightmare to get a beer / pie on a normal match day as it is.
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True point JT, a paper round just about covers the entry price, I know a lot of my friends that don't go because instead of paying £7 for alty, they can go to Bolton or City for a fiver.
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True point JT, a paper round just about covers the entry price, I know a lot of my friends that don't go because instead of paying £7 for alty, they can go to Bolton or City for a fiver.
Its not always a fiver at City though is it?
This also comes back to another point on advertising, as kids prices are:
Aged 12 to 16 - £5
Under 12s - £2
I think its gone very quiet about the £2 scheme.
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As far as i'm aware City is always a fiver for kids with a paying adult. The adult price varies though depending on opposition.
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As far as i'm aware City is always a fiver for kids with a paying adult. The adult price varies though depending on opposition.
Which is an absolute disgrace by the way. Premier League football is getting more and more like American sports where it's all about how much money can be squeezed out of the public.
I remember when I was a kid at Stamford Park School the club used to give us tickets for free/next-to-nowt. I'm 23, so I'm probably talking about 15 years ago here. Anyway, one day a group of about 8 of us went along with a mate's Dad. After that there were a few of us who attended periodically from that point, and these days I have a season ticket. By really putting time and money in to getting kids interested, the club will reap the rewards further down the line.
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By really putting time and money in to getting kids interested, the club will reap the rewards further down the line.
What you say is correct but money is the one thing we definitely don't have at the moment.
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As far as i'm aware City is always a fiver for kids with a paying adult. The adult price varies though depending on opposition.
Which is an absolute disgrace by the way. Premier League football is getting more and more like American sports where it's all about how much money can be squeezed out of the public.
Bolton v Burnley last week =£32
Bolton v Fulham last Saturday = £10.