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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 30, 2009, 05:28:39 PM
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Does anyone know if the pitch has thawed at all since Monday?
Really want this game to be on!!
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On the evidence of surveying the Moss Lane surface from the vantage point of the front bedroom overlooking the stadium, I'd say that a thaw has transpired.
However, the forecast for New Year's Eve and New Year's Day is not promising at all and I fear that a frozen pitch will scupper us again:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2608?&search=altrincham&itemsPerPage=10®ion=world&area=Altrincham (http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2608?&search=altrincham&itemsPerPage=10®ion=world&area=Altrincham)
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I trust you'll be charging up Mrs Cult's hairdryer in order to try and beat the big freeze on Friday morning? ;)
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Just wondering whether it'd be any use if a few people popped down and did some luight running in trainers on the affected parts? Has worked for me on park pitches before, might soften out the pitch a bit?
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We really need to get this on, a seriously lucrative Xmas has been wiped out.
Can't we bring in a favour from Man Utd, as they use our pitch. I bet they have some kit.
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Can't we bring in a favour from Man Utd, as they use our pitch. I bet they have some kit.
The club asked last week and they had nothing suitable (undersoil heating)
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Can't we bring in a favour from Man Utd, as they use our pitch. I bet they have some kit.
The club asked last week and they had nothing suitable (undersoil heating)
How is the pitch holding up at present, Darren? Any idea?
I need my festive football fix! :)
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OK fair comment Darren. Forecast looks terrible for New Years Eve too.
Best fixture list over Christmas for years shafted.
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Can't we bring in a favour from Man Utd, as they use our pitch. I bet they have some kit.
The club asked last week and they had nothing suitable (undersoil heating)
How is the pitch holding up at present, Darren? Any idea?
I need my festive football fix! :)
The club has been shut since monday not seen the pitch.
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Ok mate, cheers anyway. :)
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Here we go again, the club has been shut since Monday.
Part time and proud of it................becoming a bit embarrassing I'd say.
Slag me/Peake me but it really isn't good enough.
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Here we go again, the club has been shut since Monday.
Part time and proud of it................becoming a bit embarrassing I'd say.
Slag me/Peake me but it really isn't good enough.
So you have worked all xmas then???? I know the groundsman has been working on the pitch but the gates have been closed so i can't comment on the pitch.
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Yes, i've been at work but there is no relevance to the situation at Alty as I work in Kingston Upon Thames.,
This club need to wise up and get prepared, unless you think chucking good money away is ok. No management over Xmas, except GH, Chairman away, Grahame in hospital.......clearly no fault there.
I am very fckn sick of the team I've supported for all my life being an amateur set up. Modernise and get where you should be.
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The club offices have only been shut since Monday as there has been no games. People have been in and out including the groundsman who has been working on the pitch.
Please please don't lets start this again.
Can't you see it will lead to a thread on the Wrexham forum saying
"Altrincham haven't been on the pitch since Monday..what a disgrace etc etc etc"?
That is not what Darren meant
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Yes ok Mark, I understand what you say.
I just feel that we really are as a club underperforming administratively and it is on occasion rather embarrassing.
I am not criticising any individuals here either, but we are poor when compered to other clubs.
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I trust you'll be charging up Mrs Cult's hairdryer in order to try and beat the big freeze on Friday morning? ;)
I have an even better plan, ALTY 1981....
I intend to rile her by making several derogatory comments about Shrewsbury Town FC circa 7.00am on New Year's Day....before dashing across the road to Moss Lane.
The furious old dragon will then pursue me and breathe her fire on the pitch, thereby thawing the frost and rendering the surface perfectly playable.
(As you may have gathered, the present Mrs Cult does not read this Forum....but I suspect that a certain George Heslop Esq. might just relate the contents of this post to her in the near future. I blame Les Dawson...).
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I AM FED UP OF READING SW's comments from down South. Yes we've got 1 F/T Employee & THE REST have got other jobs & help @ the ground in their personal free time. Having supported the club for 61 years * been a volunteer on the Staff over 35 years but have now decided to stop answering or replying to stupid whingeing, complaining comments from nameless people like
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Here we go again, the club has been shut since Monday.
Part time and proud of it................becoming a bit embarrassing I'd say.
Slag me/Peake me but it really isn't good enough.
Local councils have been struggling to keep major routes open throughout the country for the last 2 weeks and they have an army of staff and equipment. As posted Alty have 1 FT member of staff and lots of willing volunteers who do a fantastic job all year round.. I think you really need to get a proper perspective on things here...
Wrexham havent played a game over the xmas period and not too many moons ago they were a league outfit.
Part time and proud of it? Most certainly...
I am sure the club do there utmost to get these games on...
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The weather is improving so if the pitch is not playable on Friday can't the game be played on Saturday or Sunday instead of another evening match?
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The weather is improving so if the pitch is not playable on Friday can't the game be played on Saturday or Sunday instead of another evening match?
Billy big time Dean Saunders probably has other plans for the weekend. I expect that he'll be signing another 20 ex-league players, or taking his current players training on an astro turf pitch while dreaming of that elusive 9 points in a week.
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Yes ok Mark, I understand what you say.
I just feel that we really are as a club underperforming administratively and it is on occasion rather embarrassing.
I am not criticising any individuals here either, but we are poor when compered to other clubs.
what could we do administratively to get the match on? Perhaps we could file paperwork on the pitch?
Feel free to suggest ideas SW. I have one suggestion, which is to chip in for a cover for the pitch. I will happily chip I'm the 1st 50 quid. That's the ammount of money I haven't given the club due to 3 matches postponed in last 12 months due frozen pitch.
I think that's better than wasting time slating the club setup
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This club need to wise up and get prepared, unless you think chucking good money away is ok. No management over Xmas, except GH, Chairman away, Grahame in hospital.......clearly no fault there.
I am very fckn sick of the team I've supported for all my life being an amateur set up. Modernise and get where you should be.
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Ok. So lets throw money we havnt got into being big time charlies and end up like Northwich & Chester.
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Here we go again, the club has been shut since Monday.
Part time and proud of it................becoming a bit embarrassing I'd say.
Slag me/Peake me but it really isn't good enough.
Hey.......I believe that Ecky created another forum page for people like you. A page where you can continue to post your ill considered comments for the other clowns to read.
I think we should appoint a Director of Football to ensure this does not happen again - maybe Morrell Maison at Chester would like to come in or even Steven Vaughan, Mike Connett or the Majeed brothers ?
Get real, the club is effectively run by a very busy band of volunteers and your comments are an insult to them. Why don't you get a job up here and pitch in.....alternatively just shut up.
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Here here Mick. Good reply.
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To be fair to SW, I don't think for one moment that he is suggesting that we should appoint a Director Of Football of pursue the financial model pioneered by Jim Rushe at Vics.
If there's a problem here, then it's a recurring one: a lack of communication from the club, in this case regarding their efforts to stage the York and Wrexham matches.
If, as has been intimated on here, the option of investing in covers for the pitch has been duly explored and rejected on financial grounds, then please tell us!
We know it would cost money....but continually losing matches to frozen pitches is costing us thousands of pounds of potential revenue.
Could an appeal fund be launched, perhaps?
If Manchester United have been approached to see if they could help in any way but this has proved fruitless, then, again, get the information into the public domain.
Our Chairman may be on holiday and our Vice Chairman recuperating from surgery....but the club still had two Press Officers at the last count, so why couldn't a press release have been issued and placed on the official website?
This would at least then eradicate any (false) perceptions (particularly from the supporters of other teams) that the club has not taken any measures to try and fulfil these fixtures.
There's no rule that states that you can't be both part-time and professional simultaneously.
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Thanks Cult, my point made in a more eloquent way.
I'm at a loss to understand much of this, especially the blinkered approach many have that the club can do no wrong, we should just sit back and accept etc, etc.
I think I'll take a break from here for a while as my opinions on the club and it wasting potential revenue are so worthless.
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I AM FED UP OF READING SW's comments from down South. Yes we've got 1 F/T Employee & THE REST have got other jobs & help @ the ground in their personal free time. Having supported the club for 61 years * been a volunteer on the Staff over 35 years but have now decided to stop answering or replying to stupid whingeing, complaining comments from nameless people like
Mister Heslop,
How can your wife, the Lady Jenny Heslop, possibly not qualify as a full-time employee at Moss Lane?
The poor woman is never away from the place!
Mind you, seriously, can you blame her for not wanting to go home....?
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REMINDER TO THE CULT JENNY IS PART-TIME EMPLOYEE AS MATCH DAYS ETC., ARE DONE AS A VOLUNTEER. AS ARE ALL THE PEOPLE WORKING AT THE CLUB TODAY.
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If i had the choice of going home to George or being behind the bar (amongst many other worthwhile jobs)
george Pub george pub pub george george pub pub george
i would choose the bar option every time.
Happy New year everyone
heh heh
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Thanks Cult, my point made in a more eloquent way.
I'm at a loss to understand much of this, especially the blinkered approach many have that the club can do no wrong, we should just sit back and accept etc, etc.
I think I'll take a break from here for a while as my opinions on the club and it wasting potential revenue are so worthless.
SW I dont think anybody wants you to "take a break from the forum"
I am just at a loss as to what you expect the club to do to avoid the postponements.. They cant afford any pitch protection, The forecast for tonight is -3 for the Alty area and not to get much warmer during the daylight hours. Would the frost come out of the ground?
If a local ref inspects the pitch at 10:30 (which apparently is happening and has been posted on here on another topic) and says the pitch isnt suitable then that is that.
If a player/fan slipped due to unsafe conditions under foot, and got injured then all hell could ensue.. Possible litigation etc
Personally I would rather the game be played on a pitch that was suitable for all rather than have players running around like Bambi on ice, you would then get the situation where the officials of the losing team would be saying that the game shouldnt have been played etc.
I would say that people have a practical approach to all this rather than a blinkered view...
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Lots of debate. Someone raised the point about trying to get sheets for the pitch. Do we know know much they cost? Can we get enough to protect the strip that seems to stay frozen (by the main stand?)
can we get a second hand set?
can we start a fund?
SW is kind of right...there is stuff we can do. We cannot save every game but we can start to move the odds in our favour a wee bit.
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Lots of debate. Someone raised the point about trying to get sheets for the pitch. Do we know know much they cost? Can we get enough to protect the strip that seems to stay frozen (by the main stand?)
can we get a second hand set?
can we start a fund?
SW is kind of right...there is stuff we can do. We cannot save every game but we can start to move the odds in our favour a wee bit.
Or a nice duck down duvet?
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I'm absolutely dying for this game to be on...PLEASE!
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I miss the banter on the forum between us exiles on match day.
If on the match is on national radio (if that nation is Wales) on BBC Wales
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_conf/7656823.stm
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Thanks Cult, my point made in a more eloquent way.
I'm at a loss to understand much of this, especially the blinkered approach many have that the club can do no wrong, we should just sit back and accept etc, etc.
I think I'll take a break from here for a while as my opinions on the club and it wasting potential revenue are so worthless.
Its not that your opnions are worthless, and in no way should we just accept that everything the club does is right.
I and others said many times that the club is lax at putting up posters for games and been told many times to put them up myself. Thats not really the point. I see that as lost revenue.
The club channels every penny it can into the playing budget and relies on volunteers to fill the gaps.
I wouldn't mind betting that the going rate for a Conference football secretary is £25,000 pa. Ours is free and he pays his own petrol.
A matchday secretary would cost maybe £10-£15 an hour..ours is free and he buys his own chips.
Safety officer - free
Chief steward - free
All stewards free - they don't even get a brew
Club accountant - free
PA announcer - free
I think the balboys are the top earners on 50p a match the lucky b**tards. And it was 50p in 1986!
There are many more people that I've missed.
If we want to get more professional, and from what I know of these people they are pretty damn professional, and start paying people then so be it. However every penny spent on this would be a penny off the playing budget.
It really hurts when you are doing your best and people with no information (granted we could maybe have been more pro active about getting info out) talk like experts on what you have done.
I was talking to Neil the groundsman about the York game was off on facebook. He blistered his hands clearing snow from the lines and marking the pitch in the hope that it would be on. Then he read on the forum that it was a disgrace it was off and had we even bothered to get it on. Imagine reading that with blistered hands?
Too much criticsm can lead people to jack stuff in and say "I don't need this". We don't have a supply of volunteers that I am aware of.
If you think the teams sh*t and they should have played a different way say it. No worries.
If you think the managers is a clueless after a game then say it and give your reasons.
However its not fair to make assumptions about things we don't have the full facts on like how many times the groundsman has been down to the ground.
Its not perfect but we should be grateful that people do what they do to give us a game to watch.
In my opinion...
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For Alty to be a part time club and achieve what they do is just incredible.
I don't think any of us should be complaining, there is very little that can be done about a frozen pitch.
If the game isn't on tomorrow I will be very disappointed, as the rest of us will be, but I will rest assured that everyone at the ground has done all they can to get the game on, for little or no personal gain to themselves.
We are all lucky to support a club like Alty, let's start off next year the right way!!
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hope its on we owe you lot a stuffing
I think your a negative, boring side to watch and play against, and have been lucky in both your victories against us
own goal, wrong sending off last april
own goal again last month, we missed penalty
were crap aswell i know, 0-0 tomorrow must be odds on
heres to two sh*te sides slugging it out tomorrow ( if its on ) happy new year alty fans
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hope its on we owe you lot a stuffing
I think your a negative, boring side to watch and play against, and have been lucky in both your victories against us
own goal, wrong sending off last april
own goal again last month, we missed penalty
were crap aswell i know, 0-0 tomorrow must be odds on
heres to two sh*te sides slugging it out tomorrow ( if its on ) happy new year alty fans
Negative ? Boring ? The stats indicate that the most negative boring side to watch is WREXHAM !
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Saunders/wrexham continue to fail to mention that we also had numerous players missing for the trophy games,and not having 30+ professional players on our books meant we had to adapt to play with what we had at our disposal.I think we will see very different tactics tomorrow to those deployed in the trophy games,but saunders wont have the nouse to work that out
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cheeky monkey.
your boys practice ALL WEEK, and are still pants.
we're part time (& not pants) yet you equate yourselves with us.
how dire must your training sessions be?
fool. go away.
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If you don't beat it it surely has to be Mad Deans last game?
The "we had 105 crosses and never scored" can't wash again.
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cheeky monkey.
your boys practice ALL WEEK, and are still pants. agree
we're part time (& not pants) yet you equate yourselves with us. definitely, slow , lots of men behind the ball even at home, look to knick a goal from a set piece, then defend again havent been impressed at all by you in all the times weve played you. negative and boring.
how dire must your training sessions be? very dire judging by this season
fool. go away.. fool yourself , will stick around thanks
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cheeky monkey.
your boys practice ALL WEEK, and are still pants. agree
we're part time (& not pants) yet you equate yourselves with us. definitely, slow , lots of men behind the ball even at home, look to knick a goal from a set piece, then defend again havent been impressed at all by you in all the times weve played you. negative and boring.
how dire must your training sessions be? very dire judging by this season
fool. go away.. fool yourself , will stick around thanks
The thing is, we've heard it all before, your about 4 seasons too late. So what if we try to 'nick' a goal then defend, we haven't a bench full of full time professionals ready to come on and whip 432 crosses into the box, nor a deluded manager to sign threm :)
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I am just grateful we aint fkn Welsh
;)
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If you don't beat it it surely has to be Mad Deans last game?
The "we had 105 crosses and never scored" can't wash again.
mad dean ;D, your sounding like one of us
he's sticking round till may unfortunately, and then if there aint a significant improvement , he's off. ;)
he's becoming the worst manager weve ever had. 3rd biggest budget in the league aswell :'(
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If you don't beat it it surely has to be Mad Deans last game?
The "we had 105 crosses and never scored" can't wash again.
mad dean ;D, your sounding like one of us
he's sticking round till may unfortunately, and then if there aint a significant improvement , he's off. ;)
he's becoming the worst manager weve ever had. 3rd biggest budget in the league aswell :'(
How about Denbigh Town ?
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If you don't beat it it surely has to be Mad Deans last game?
The "we had 105 crosses and never scored" can't wash again.
mad dean ;D, your sounding like one of us
he's sticking round till may unfortunately, and then if there aint a significant improvement , he's off. ;)
he's becoming the worst manager weve ever had. 3rd biggest budget in the league aswell :'(
How about Denbigh Town ?
7th in the cymru alliance , why ?
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If you don't beat it it surely has to be Mad Deans last game?
The "we had 105 crosses and never scored" can't wash again.
mad dean ;D, your sounding like one of us
he's sticking round till may unfortunately, and then if there aint a significant improvement , he's off. ;)
he's becoming the worst manager weve ever had. 3rd biggest budget in the league aswell :'(
If I were you I wouldn't wait that long!
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If you don't beat it it surely has to be Mad Deans last game?
The "we had 105 crosses and never scored" can't wash again.
mad dean ;D, your sounding like one of us
he's sticking round till may unfortunately, and then if there aint a significant improvement , he's off. ;)
he's becoming the worst manager weve ever had. 3rd biggest budget in the league aswell :'(
If I were you I wouldn't wait that long!
if it were my decision he wouldnt have started this season, he had a dreadful end to last campaign
fortunately for him his mate and golfing buddy is the chairman and majority shareholder.
'its not what you know its who you know'
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Sorry to spoil the thread Ball persons now get paid one whole pound.
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Sorry to spoil the thread Ball persons now get paid one whole pound.
I'll wait for someone to have a go at them and say the money would be better spent on undersoil heating.
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Cheeky!
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Nice Ball Girls Darren
;) :D
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Nice Ball Girls Darren
;) :D
Aye, but we haven't seen their faces have we!
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Who cares - get me a shovel and a hairdryer if they are responsible for clearing the pitch!!! ;)
Are these our potential emergency cover signings should we have any further injuries?
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And who is bothered what the faces are like?
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lol trucker still not changed
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Are these our potential emergency cover signings should we have any further injuries?
Aye, but I'm not for these wussy footballers wearing tights!
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They look like they could be singing. Is it a bum rap ?
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I would not mind getting my head in between those letters