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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: tottenham alty on December 21, 2009, 06:41:46 PM
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There are a few City and United fans that follow the club, but was wondering if this is the majority or the minority. Pretty sure this would have been discussed before, but am interested to see the stats. Somebody once told me 90 per cent of Alty fans support City, and I notice we sing a couple of similar songs...
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I cannot see how you can support two teams. There is the possibility of drawing each other in the FA Cup...and then what. You are going to be cheering for one of the teams you support to lose.
It can't be done. It's one team, or another.
It IS possible to support two clubs who have no realistic chance of meeting in a competitive fixture, i.e. Cowdenbeath and Alty, but even then one of the clubs will come top of your list. Much easier to stick with ALTRINCHAM FC.
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There are certain teams whose results I will look out for, especially United, but if Alty have to play them it will always be Alty I will be 100% behind.
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Alty, City, Celtic and Dumbarton.
SCOTLAND :P
Over the years the way I describe it is that I am an Altrincham supporter and a City etc fan.
Alty is the one that hurts and the one that makes me joyous.
EDITED as it would seem I couldn't form a sentence earlier ;)
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Alty and England 4 me :)
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so far more than 50% of Alty fans also support another team. aaggghhhh!
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Only one team for me.
Started life as a Liverpool fan on the tele when they were winning everything, converted to Alty aged 11 and the rest is history.
When I was too young to travel away with Alty I used to go on the Kippax and the Stretford End depending on who was at home.
Never got me like Alty did though.
Making it OK to support Alty when all your mates are United and City is one of the clubs biggest challenges in youngest. A trip to Wembley would help enormously!
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I don't really like football, I prefer cricket much more BUT I always look at the results of Leeds and Altrincham.
I started to like Altrincham (You might all laugh!) but by Football Manager! I always play them mainly because my Nana used to live next door to Colin Little when he was young ;D
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Alty and England 4 me :)
Same here mate.
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The only team that matters to the point that days, evenings, weekends are spoiled/celebrated is Altrincham FC. I've followed since 1971, aged 9, when, by chance, having played Saturday football, a mate said he was being taken to City by his dad. Not to be outdone, I bolted home and demanded my dad relinquish his Saturday seat in front of Dickie Davies to take me to United........my dad being a Utd fan, and me not getting the home/away situation. He agreed, well my mum made him agree, to spend some time with me. He reluctantly took me to Altrincham v Ellesmere Port Town, we won 4-2, an old guy in the Golf Rd gave me a Blue Riband biscuit, and I only missed one further home game that season. My dad drove me to Stafford, Fleetwood, Nantwich, Sandbach Ramblers, in the snow to a called off game at Rossendale, Macclesfield, Stockport..Cheshire Cup?...Buxton, Great Harwood and many more.
Thanks, my old 9 yr old mate Nigel, and thanks Dad for hooking me up to a life long affair.
Shudders, I could have been a Utd fan.
My boy follows Fulham, and previously followed AFC Wimbledon, being the local club. I attend fixtures involving both , more Fulham now, but I just cannot get too excited or involved in the results, even if I want the team to win for him. If they lose well so what, its not the same feeling.
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Alty 1903
Liverpool
The Dons - Aberdeen (Soccer casuals and all that) 1903
Was strange going to Anfield in 1981
Liverpool also played Aberdeen earlier that season too in the European cup
All my teams won their own FA cups in 1986 too.
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Its the one that hurts when they loose, thats your team. Wierd but I do enjoy the odd game between neutral teams its nice to relax and just enjoy sometimes. Alty 100%
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Up until 1974 I was a diehard Man Utd Fan, until they started having problems and troubles in the early 70s where I found the atmosphere intimidating and felt unsafe on occasions.
I went to an Alty game with my mate from college on October 06th 1974 Monday night at home to Buxton (we won 5-1) and have not looked back since. I became hooked on non-league football. Though I occasionally miss the really big crowds I much prefer the atmosphere at the Alty games with no intimidation whatsoever and the general banter between home and away fans. Not pure blind hatred as was felt at games on the early 70s.
Despite this I still retain a soft-spot for United and watch them on TV both in the Premiership and Europe if Alty are not at home, but it the event of an FA cup away draw let me make this crystal - I would be in the away end!! I even go to United games on very rare occasions when Alty are not playing, but I get home a lot later than when I go to Alty, and it is more hassle. I like to watch all football and have been a supporter at neutral games when I have been on my travels. My brother lives in Norwich so I have seen Norwich City a few times. Chris my elder son is at Newcastle University and has watched Newcastle a couple of times already. I intend to go to the Gateshead game away next February and meet Chris there if his University work permits.
Oh and by the way, I am very patriotic and love England to bits; cant wait until the 2010 world cup.
You can enjoy watching more than one club as I have done on many occasions, but I know where my heart lies deep down. And it is not down to me being fickle, it is just a deep love of the game of football. A game were I can admire great players and wish to god I could be one, but cant because Im crap at football. I was on ok goalie though many years ago, but not as good as our Alex is - my youngest. Chris my eldest plays at left back for his University side and both my kids are Cheshire FA referees and they have my fullest support. They love the game as much as I do!!
Even though an armchair United fan I do not mind City either and wish them well, but I dont half feel sorry for Mark Hughes, but that's another story. City are after all another Manc side. Maybe being an Alty fan allows me to sit on the fence re United and City except when they play each other, in which case I am red!
Sort that one out if you can!!
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When I think of support, its more than financial support. However, for Alty they need our financial support the most. That somehow seems to then translate to us lot then emotionally supporting 11 men and the surrounding club to the point of tears (of joy and despair).
Alty is the only club I feel like that for.
I have, through alty, a nagging desire to go and watch the local football team. Its probably because i can relate to the passion that surrounds me from the local lads n lasses who live for it. I thrive off the emotion that feeds the crowd. Right now that means going to watch OGC Nice, who have a definite place in my heart now, i'll follow their results for the rest of my years. I follow the results of loads of clubs though and i'll go to any game you can get me a ticket for. I love football.
Im a football snob. Living abroad you get to meet a million and one United fans who've never even been near Manchester. They can have it branded on their forehead for all I care they arent proper football fans. Theyre commercial fans, even if they choose a crap team they still chose. If it was as easy as choosing for me i'd be a deserved Man U fan. But i went to Moss Lane and chanted Barry Crowe for 40 minutes etc, that stuffs more addictive than crack.
THE ONLY TEAM FOR ME IS ALTRINCHAM FC
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When I think of support, its more than financial support. However, for Alty they need our financial support the most. That somehow seems to then translate to us lot then emotionally supporting 11 men and the surrounding club to the point of tears (of joy and despair).
Alty is the only club I feel like that for.
I have, through alty, a nagging desire to go and watch the local football team. Its probably because i can relate to the passion that surrounds me from the local lads n lasses who live for it. I thrive off the emotion that feeds the crowd. Right now that means going to watch OGC Nice, who have a definite place in my heart now, i'll follow their results for the rest of my years. I follow the results of loads of clubs though and i'll go to any game you can get me a ticket for. I love football.
Im a football snob. Living abroad you get to meet a million and one United fans who've never even been near Manchester. They can have it branded on their forehead for all I care they arent proper football fans. Theyre commercial fans, even if they choose a crap team they still chose. If it was as easy as choosing for me i'd be a deserved Man U fan. But i went to Moss Lane and chanted Barry Crowe for 40 minutes etc, that stuffs more addictive than crack.
THE ONLY TEAM FOR ME IS ALTRINCHAM FC
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Some good points there OGC. Guy at work who goes home and away, abroad etc with Man Utd from SE London/Kent. I keep telling him, no matter how many games he goes to, no matter how much hardship and cash he spends he will ALWAYS be a mockney red and even his fellow fans (Manc ones) will never fully accept him.
Harsh? maybe; but true?
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True.
The average United fan I know back home cannot stand the southern based reds. The ridiculously pompous United justification of 'It's not where your from, it's where your at' is just rubbish. You either have family/emotional ties to a club or come from that area, there are no other possible justifications for supporting a football club in my book. Despite the tired NLL jibes you get on Confguide it is a fact that if you grew up in Altrincham most of your family will have been born into tradition as a blue or a red so supporting either of them (in addition to us) is frankly no big thing in my book. I go City about 6-8 times a season but my first loyalty lies always with Alty.
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Its the one that hurts when they loose, thats your team.
I think that sums it up exactly - and its Alty.
Jennifers Mum says I am grumpy for the rest of the weekend if we lose on Saturday. I maintain I'm grumpy all the time!
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Alty then real madrid for me, love both grounds and atmosphere
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I go City about 6-8 times a season but my first loyalty lies always with Alty.
So did you put yourself down as Alty & City? I would say going 6-8 times a year prob qualifies you as a supporter - I only manage to get to Alty games about that much.
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I was an avid United fan as well as Alty in the 60's and 70's, and it was in the early 70's that Alty took preference.
I dont see the problem with supporters of non league football also supporting a team in the Premiership/FL. I certainly would not go to a United game instead of Alty. Although I live in the South East, I have brainwashed my kids into supporting Alty.
Internationally its the Republic of Ireland - and whichever team is playing England.
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I have always been an Alty fan since I first started going (about 1960) with my old fella.
I use to go to watch Man U in the 60s but only if Alty were not at home.
I was Alty's first mascot in about 62/63 ish... Big John Higgins was the captain .. Tommy Banks, Bobby English and Ray Perry were just a few of the players then... (my first game was Skelmersdale away on a freezing day..
Unfortunately I didnt get to see Alty so much in the 70's 80's as I spent 24 years in the Army, but I always use to look for their result and went to see them whenever I was on leave.
Took my misses to see them a few years ago (she used to hate football) and now she goes to all the home games whenever possible.
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My Dad took me to Moss Lane at Christmas 1953 and I saw us ship five to Northwich Vics. It didn't put me off, and I saw a good few games over the next five years or so.
However, Easter 1956 saw me impulsively jump on the train and head for Old Trafford, where I saw the Busby Babes demolish Newcastle 5-2. I was totally hooked on the atmosphere. My parents were less enthsiastic, but agreed that I could go to games with my Uncle, which I did until that fateful day in 1958. The crowds and the passion were too much for my folks to take in, and I was redirected to Moss Lane (I'd taken in a few games anyway) and also had a brief flirtation with County - we lived on the 71 bus route.
The bottom line - I was, and still am, a football junkie ! I've watched Linotype, Old Alts (played the odd game in the lower level teams), City, and when I was exiled to the wilds of the West Midlands in 1970 I tried six or seven clubs before settling for three very enjoyable years with Aston Villa ! I'll watch ANYBODY - if I'm in the park and there's a kickabout I automatically stop and watch for a while (our late lamented labrador used to want to join in, and I would have to move on).
To me, it is, and will always be the beautiful game - but those who remember my vow to blank the forthcoming World Cup will realise that I hate the sprawling commercial monster that it has become.
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To continue, Alty are still what football should be. That's why they remain my first love, and it's why I get thoroughly hacked off when "professionalism" rears its ugly head at our level. And where we are right now IS our level ! So for me it's United on the box - accompanied by a lot of whingeing at the antics of some of the overpaid Jessies that taint the game - but Alty for the rush of proper football in the raw.
Incidentally, if we WERE to somehow make it into the League, I'd be delighted - but with reservations !
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100% Alty!
Similar to Ecky used to support United (well as much as the majority of their so called fans) at primary school but then went to a few Alty games when Kingy came back and never looked back.
Now I don't care for any other clubs!
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My Dad took me to Moss Lane at Christmas 1953 and I saw us ship five to Northwich Vics. It didn't put me off, and I saw a good few games over the next five years or so.
However, Easter 1956 saw me impulsively jump on the train and head for Old Trafford, where I saw the Busby Babes demolish Newcastle 5-2. I was totally hooked on the atmosphere. My parents were less enthsiastic, but agreed that I could go to games with my Uncle, which I did until that fateful day in 1958. The crowds and the passion were too much for my folks to take in, and I was redirected to Moss Lane (I'd taken in a few games anyway) and also had a brief flirtation with County - we lived on the 71 bus route.
The bottom line - I was, and still am, a football junkie ! I've watched Linotype, Old Alts (played the odd game in the lower level teams), City, and when I was exiled to the wilds of the West Midlands in 1970 I tried six or seven clubs before settling for three very enjoyable years with Aston Villa ! I'll watch ANYBODY - if I'm in the park and there's a kickabout I automatically stop and watch for a while (our late lamented labrador used to want to join in, and I would have to move on).
To me, it is, and will always be the beautiful game - but those who remember my vow to blank the forthcoming World Cup will realise that I hate the sprawling commercial monster that it has become.
I agree with that sentiment 100% Phil..
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Before I started coming to watch Alty, which was when hubby and I started going out together, I was a Sunderland fan, because of my family links with that part of the country, my Uncle took me to see them a few times. Then as a family we always watch how Bridport are getting on, they play in the Toolstation League Division 1, which is just about North West Counties league level I think. Alty always come first though!
Come on you Reds!
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Alty then Vics for me.
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Alty and only alty and neve been anything else since i was old enough to think for myself (some might say that stage bhas not been reached yet).
I do have to admit to a second team though they are m,y beloved Cape Coast Mysterious Dwarves
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My Dad took me to Moss Lane at Christmas 1953 and I saw us ship five to Northwich Vics. It didn't put me off, and I saw a good few games over the next five years or so.
However, Easter 1956 saw me impulsively jump on the train and head for Old Trafford, where I saw the Busby Babes demolish Newcastle 5-2. I was totally hooked on the atmosphere. My parents were less enthsiastic, but agreed that I could go to games with my Uncle, which I did until that fateful day in 1958. The crowds and the passion were too much for my folks to take in, and I was redirected to Moss Lane (I'd taken in a few games anyway) and also had a brief flirtation with County - we lived on the 71 bus route.
The bottom line - I was, and still am, a football junkie ! I've watched Linotype, Old Alts (played the odd game in the lower level teams), City, and when I was exiled to the wilds of the West Midlands in 1970 I tried six or seven clubs before settling for three very enjoyable years with Aston Villa ! I'll watch ANYBODY - if I'm in the park and there's a kickabout I automatically stop and watch for a while (our late lamented labrador used to want to join in, and I would have to move on).
To me, it is, and will always be the beautiful game - but those who remember my vow to blank the forthcoming World Cup will realise that I hate the sprawling commercial monster that it has become.
I agree with that sentiment 100% Phil..
how can you love football and blank the World Cup? Its the highest level of the game. Its a valiant stand but not sure FIFA will take much notice!!
I enjoyed Euro 2008 more than any tournament since Euro 96. standard of football waxs fantastic, and all the better that England were'nt playing as it a avoided the brainless media bandwagon
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My Dad took me to Moss Lane at Christmas 1953 and I saw us ship five to Northwich Vics. It didn't put me off, and I saw a good few games over the next five years or so.
However, Easter 1956 saw me impulsively jump on the train and head for Old Trafford, where I saw the Busby Babes demolish Newcastle 5-2. I was totally hooked on the atmosphere. My parents were less enthsiastic, but agreed that I could go to games with my Uncle, which I did until that fateful day in 1958. The crowds and the passion were too much for my folks to take in, and I was redirected to Moss Lane (I'd taken in a few games anyway) and also had a brief flirtation with County - we lived on the 71 bus route.
The bottom line - I was, and still am, a football junkie ! I've watched Linotype, Old Alts (played the odd game in the lower level teams), City, and when I was exiled to the wilds of the West Midlands in 1970 I tried six or seven clubs before settling for three very enjoyable years with Aston Villa ! I'll watch ANYBODY - if I'm in the park and there's a kickabout I automatically stop and watch for a while (our late lamented labrador used to want to join in, and I would have to move on).
To me, it is, and will always be the beautiful game - but those who remember my vow to blank the forthcoming World Cup will realise that I hate the sprawling commercial monster that it has become.
I agree with that sentiment 100% Phil..
how can you love football and blank the World Cup? Its the highest level of the game. Its a valiant stand but not sure FIFA will take much notice!!
I enjoyed Euro 2008 more than any tournament since Euro 96. standard of football waxs fantastic, and all the better that England were'nt playing as it a avoided the brainless media bandwagon
I assume you won't be watching or supporting England in next years World Cup then?
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To be honest I am not that bothered about watching world cups, Euro championsips etc
Like others the media and gutter press (mainly the red tops) piss me off with their stupid headlines such as always feeling the need to for example, drag up the war everytime we play the Germans etc.
Then we get the big hype about England being able to beat anyone and then when they draw or lose a game in the mini league phase, they are then cast as a bunch of no-hopers.. and everybody wants the manager hung drawn and quartered.
We also have to then, sit and listen to all the so called experts (usually old ex players) or EPL Managers give their analysis of how England fkd up another chance to win the dam thing, their conclusion usually being that there are far too many foreigners playing in the EPL. These same EPL managers then a few weeks later pay millions for >>>> Yip you've got it .. A foreign player. And so the four year cycle starts again.
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To be honest I am not that bothered about watching world cups, Euro championsips etc
Like others the media and gutter press (mainly the red tops) piss me off with their stupid headlines such as always feeling the need to for example, drag up the war everytime we play the Germans etc.
Then we get the big hype about England being able to beat anyone and then when they draw or lose a game in the mini league phase, they are then cast as a bunch of no-hopers.. and everybody wants the manager hung drawn and quartered.
We also have to then, sit and listen to all the so called experts (usually old ex players) or EPL Managers give their analysis of how England fkd up another chance to win the dam thing, their conclusion usually being that there are far too many foreigners playing in the EPL. These same EPL managers then a few weeks later pay millions for >>>> Yip you've got it .. A foreign player. And so the four year cycle starts again.
Yes but ignoring that it's still our national team competing in the greatest competition in the world.
I really don't see the press / media coverage etc a reason to not support your country.
Personally can't wait for the world cup!!
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I@ll certainly be delighted if England do well - I just shan't be watching it happen (or not).
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Phil, you said before you'll watch any football, so why delibrately miss the chance to see the 'greatest players in the world' compete on the biggest stage in the world?
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I supported United from young age, living next to the ground and seeing the odd game. However, when I went to school in the Alty area, I met mates who followed Alty, went to a few games, and now get to every game I can whilst still supporting United. If Alty played United in the FA Cup then I would back Alty, because of them being underdogs and relatively less successful in the tournament. I think you can follow as many teams as you like, it's just up to you who you support when they meet. Also, I reckon there are lots of reasons for following a team - I look out for Fiorentina's results because they beat United once and played really well, and I really loved Batistuta; I look out for Auxerre because of their performance against Arsenal in the Champions League and also because of Guy Roux being a legend; Hamburg because my dad used to work there and told me about their old team, etc. It's not always so simple as supporting one team all the way, although it is possible and dedicated. Either way you're just enjoying football.
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ENGLAND WILL WIN THE WORLD CUP, no one will remember this statement or take it seriosly, please dont take beckham or owen and it might happen
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No Football fan will miss all of the World Cup. The problem with this one is that as a Sport it has already been ruined by the fiddling and cheating by FIFA and particularly the French influence that conrol it. Plus it is being played in a country where stealing, corruption and cheating are the national sport. They have also done their best to turn this into an African Cup and not a World Cup. .
Nice to see England supporters and the stupid one-eyed English midia as usual telling us all that England will win it - makes it all the sweeter when they embarringly mess it up to a third world nation.
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Phil, you said before you'll watch any football, so why delibrately miss the chance to see the 'greatest players in the world' compete on the biggest stage in the world?
Because the Competition has been corrupted by commercialism. I shall probably see the goals on the news.
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I've got to admit that I love the World Cup and I support England all the way. However, I am not foolish enough to think we are good enough to get any further than the Quarter Finals - anything else would be a bonus. Unfortunately, a lot of people are stupid enough to get caught up in the media hype and the team is constantly expected to perform way beyond it's ability.
Three games of footy a day on telly can't be a bad thing, surely? :)
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I think everyone is missing something here. Most people who support two clubs support the biggest one first and the smallest one second. So it is not really Alty fans supporting another team, it is more likely to be fans of league clubs who also support Alty. As the result of the poll suggests these fans account for about half the regulars, so they are very important to the club. The main reasons why they watch Alty more than their other club seem to be money, moved to the Alty area, don't like the way league football has changed, hatred of all seater stadia, safety, or in United's case it is impossible to get a ticket. In the long term the children of these people will become Alty fans first and possibly fans of a league club second.
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in United's case it is impossible to get a ticket.
One of the biggest myths in football. There are empty seats at Old Trafford nearly every week nowadays.
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No Football fan will miss all of the World Cup. The problem with this one is that as a Sport it has already been ruined by the fiddling and cheating by FIFA and particularly the French influence that conrol it. Plus it is being played in a country where stealing, corruption and cheating are the national sport. They have also done their best to turn this into an African Cup and not a World Cup. .
Nice to see England supporters and the stupid one-eyed English midia as usual telling us all that England will win it - makes it all the sweeter when they embarringly mess it up to a third world nation.
Alot of England fans get carried away and say we can win it, however they are usually the same people who say we are sh*t after we've only managed to beat the likes of estonia by a 3 goal margain, ie - they know nothing about football. However the fact is ENGLAND CAN WIN IT, to argue that we can't is foolish, I don't expect to win it by any means, but if you look at the quality we have in our team then how can we not be in with a chance?
Funnily enough I don't rememeber England messing up any World Cup Finals campaign to any third world country?? Ceratinly not in my lifetime?? 82 we went out to the expense of West Germany, 86 to Argentina, 90 to West Germany, 94 didn't qualify at the expense of Holland (cheating Koeman) 98 Argentina, 2002 Brazil (alot of it may be 3rd world but they are widley regarded as the greatest exponents of the game) 2006 to Portugal.
Are you Scottish, Irish or Welsh? If so i'm so envious of your fantastic World Cup record! I'll be well jealous come next summer when the tournament kicks off in June and England face the possiblity that we might be knocked out of the competition, whilst the rest of the home nations can sit at home worry free in the knowledge that they can't get knocked out because they haven't qualified.
By the way if you're English then I despair.
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My Dad took me to Moss Lane at Christmas 1953 and I saw us ship five to Northwich Vics. It didn't put me off, and I saw a good few games over the next five years or so.
However, Easter 1956 saw me impulsively jump on the train and head for Old Trafford, where I saw the Busby Babes demolish Newcastle 5-2. I was totally hooked on the atmosphere. My parents were less enthsiastic, but agreed that I could go to games with my Uncle, which I did until that fateful day in 1958. The crowds and the passion were too much for my folks to take in, and I was redirected to Moss Lane (I'd taken in a few games anyway) and also had a brief flirtation with County - we lived on the 71 bus route.
The bottom line - I was, and still am, a football junkie ! I've watched Linotype, Old Alts (played the odd game in the lower level teams), City, and when I was exiled to the wilds of the West Midlands in 1970 I tried six or seven clubs before settling for three very enjoyable years with Aston Villa ! I'll watch ANYBODY - if I'm in the park and there's a kickabout I automatically stop and watch for a while (our late lamented labrador used to want to join in, and I would have to move on).
To me, it is, and will always be the beautiful game - but those who remember my vow to blank the forthcoming World Cup will realise that I hate the sprawling commercial monster that it has become.
I agree with that sentiment 100% Phil..
how can you love football and blank the World Cup? Its the highest level of the game. Its a valiant stand but not sure FIFA will take much notice!!
I enjoyed Euro 2008 more than any tournament since Euro 96. standard of football waxs fantastic, and all the better that England were'nt playing as it a avoided the brainless media bandwagon
I assume you won't be watching or supporting England in next years World Cup then?
I will be, it was just refreshing to enjoy Euro 2008 as a neutral, as England's failings couldnt detract from my tournament as a whole.
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My Dad took me to Moss Lane at Christmas 1953 and I saw us ship five to Northwich Vics. It didn't put me off, and I saw a good few games over the next five years or so.
However, Easter 1956 saw me impulsively jump on the train and head for Old Trafford, where I saw the Busby Babes demolish Newcastle 5-2. I was totally hooked on the atmosphere. My parents were less enthsiastic, but agreed that I could go to games with my Uncle, which I did until that fateful day in 1958. The crowds and the passion were too much for my folks to take in, and I was redirected to Moss Lane (I'd taken in a few games anyway) and also had a brief flirtation with County - we lived on the 71 bus route.
The bottom line - I was, and still am, a football junkie ! I've watched Linotype, Old Alts (played the odd game in the lower level teams), City, and when I was exiled to the wilds of the West Midlands in 1970 I tried six or seven clubs before settling for three very enjoyable years with Aston Villa ! I'll watch ANYBODY - if I'm in the park and there's a kickabout I automatically stop and watch for a while (our late lamented labrador used to want to join in, and I would have to move on).
To me, it is, and will always be the beautiful game - but those who remember my vow to blank the forthcoming World Cup will realise that I hate the sprawling commercial monster that it has become.
I agree with that sentiment 100% Phil..
how can you love football and blank the World Cup? Its the highest level of the game. Its a valiant stand but not sure FIFA will take much notice!!
I enjoyed Euro 2008 more than any tournament since Euro 96. standard of football waxs fantastic, and all the better that England were'nt playing as it a avoided the brainless media bandwagon
I assume you won't be watching or supporting England in next years World Cup then?
I will be, it was just refreshing to enjoy Euro 2008 as a neutral, as England's failings couldnt detract from my tournament as a whole.
It was nice to just be able to sit back and enjoy some very high quality football
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Alty and Utd - but if they ever met I'd be 100% Alty ;D
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I recently bet one of my pals that Enlgand would win the world cup in 2010.
Don't ask me why, but there is something I can see in the players mind-set that Fabio Capello has installed in them.
Incidentally, should England win the World Cup, and Fabio would be the mastermind; how would the nation reward him as a 'non-Englishman'
Could he be given an honorary knighthood? The Italians would love that!!
Any further comments?