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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 01, 2009, 05:29:22 PM
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Commentary link for those who can't make tonight's game:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_conf/7656823.stm
As you all probably know by now, there will be a bucket collection at tonight's game and all proceeds will go towards the promotion fund. Perhaps we could have our own half-time collection on the forum too and see how much extra we can raise.
If you wish to make a donation, the link to the paypal page is as follows:
http://www.freewebs.com/ideas4alty/bucket.htm
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Lets sock it to 'em tonight Alty!
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Evening everyone lets hope it goes well
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Attacking line up tonight.
Greg on the bench??
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Tonightt's line-up...
Altrincham
01 Coburn
06 Densmore
12 Williams
02 Smith
03 Doughty
04 Kearney
16 Danylyk
10 Denham
09 Little
19 Senior
17 McAliskey
I think this is a 4-3-3??
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Maybe 4-2-4 with those players!
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sadly it sounds like Barrow are doing well
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Lost my internet signal(wireless for my laptop at work) >:(
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Good evening all,
Just back home. Not many of us on here tonight!
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I wonder if all this talk of promotion has got to the players:
36 mins: Barrow still looking the more incisive but poor shooting
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Evening All, come on Alty.
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hi stranger
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HT 0-0
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Hehe, yes I've been AWOL a bit lately, other stuff to do.
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Just 1 shot on target in the 1st half - and that was Barrow's.
How did the commentary sound?
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aye ht now and wb sw
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I have laptop on with United-Spurs game on the tv, predictably tonight after two good away wins we've enjoyed it's a bit flat seemingly.
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sound like Barrow were the better team..............but wonderful BBC has possession ...alty 62...barrow 38 ??
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HT 0-0 Barrow have had the better of the half.
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wonder how well the collection will be at HT
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Any ideas about the gate, seeing as Yernited on TV?
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832 att
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Hello all,
Been listening to the commentary whilst cooking/eating dinner.
Come on Alty!
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Not great is it, night match I know, but its Barrow and we are doing ok lately.
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Hi Alty
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Gateshead beating Mansfield at HT 1-0. ;D
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BBC says Lawton for Denham after Denham fouled. Injury?
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He's prob still not at full fitness anyway.
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Hope that's all it is JD.
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Maybe Alty hung-over from Saturday!
60 mins: Alty labouring 0-0. Barrow shooting poor.
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BBC says Lawton for Denham after Denham fouled. Injury?
We were probably a bit lightweight in the centre of midfield.
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53% 47%
Attempts on target
3 2
Attempts off target
4 10
Corners
5 0
Fouls
5 9
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Bad news: were missing the film Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus on Sci-Fi channel
As soon as I find out I'll let you know what its about!
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Evening all. Been watching on and off while trying Ecky's Firefox tip but still can't get some sites to work, ho hum.
Come on Alty - cheer me up!
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Clee for Kearney.
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67:30 Substitution Tom Kearney leaves the field to be replaced by Nicky Clee.
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Bad news: were missing the film Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus on Sci-Fi channel
As soon as I find out I'll let you know what its about!
I'm rooting for the octopus!
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Bad news: were missing the film Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus on Sci-Fi channel
As soon as I find out I'll let you know what its about!
I'm rooting for the octopus!
But which is better?
There's only one way to find out.....
FIIIIIIGGGGHHHTTTTTT!
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Dam and blast lost the connection again
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got it back now
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what was that about £200 99 pence?
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Greg on for Col
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what was that about £200 99 pence?
I thought they said £299.52? That'll be what they raised in the buckets towards the promotion fund. If correct that is superb!
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i was not to sure as my signal keeps going,but thats over £500 then
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i was not to sure as my signal keeps going,but thats over £500 then
I'm not 100% sure. Based on the earlier figure that would give us £540 so far which is a wonderful effort.
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blast and bugger it
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f**k
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Either Barrow scored or Mega Shark beat Giant Octopus
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Can we play all our remaining games away from home please?
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Just got on >:( I'll get my coat!
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Ionniuo has just scored for Corfu
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corner get it in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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3m 30 to go
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That Nelthorpe looks to have been a handful all night.
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sounds like end to end, but with Barrow on top...... chances either end, probably good entertainment unless you're a Robin!
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Think i might read my book
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No doubt when he appears at Crown Court for alleged affray with 3 other York City players he will not be so imposing!!!
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stay 10th I think, Tam & Craw draw.
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team being Booed off
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Lets face it, we have to win games like this if we don't want to waste the collection money from half time.
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i agree and we should be beating teams like them :P
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We have to recover quickly and produce a performance at Histon on Saturday!
No point dwelling on it. I've been told by someone at the game that we were poor tonight but we can come back stronger.
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Not good enough for me that.
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We were awful, should have buried a few easy chances. Very disapointing lads, why can't we play how we play at away games, but at Moss Lane?
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Having just got back from the match then here's my assessment.
Result flattered alty, barrow had many, many chances and managed to fluff most out of the ground.
Little's long range effort in the first half, was alty's only real goal scoring opportunity. Senior had a fantastic chance at the start of the second half but hit his shot straight at the keeper.
Still wondering why kearney, denham and little were all taken off, and then playing clee in central midfield. McALISKEY, didnt have a good game at all and really should have been brought off.
Doughty and Young at fault for barrow goal, barrow found space on the wings time and time again without really being closed down.
Densmore annonced as MOfM, however i thought Smith was the best alty player on the pitch.
Overall not a good match.
team being Booed off
er no they werent.
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I also heard no booing after the game. The performance wasn't worth booing, I think maybe this business with applying for Football League whatever might have got to them? Let's pick ourselves up and take three points at Histon. Let's face it, it's Away!
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Casper I agree with you.
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Once again like with the goal we gave Chester, the defence backed off the man with the ball. If we cut this out we will be fine! Only thing I worry about is we have payed £1000 to play league football if we make the play off, however, that is not going to happen if we don't get something from out home games. I think in the interest of the fans the players better start playing at home and not just on away trips.
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Well done Barrow , they were by far the better team ,there no 15 Paul Rutherford had a great game , we seem to have trouble with teams that play fast attacking football , sorry to say this once again but for me McAliskey isn't good enought
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I could here booing over the radio from somewhere
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I could here booing over the radio from somewhere
i think it was the barrow fans response to realising that they had to go home to such a depressing place.
Also it's benefit day at the job centre tomorrow for them.
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The sponsors' award of Man Of The Match to Densmore only suggests that they overindulged on the pre-match hospitality.
Barrow's left winger, Rutherford, gave him a truly torrid evening.
The better side won.
We were ragged and lacked cohesion and shape.
However, Senior did miss a glorious chance, shooting straight at the goalkeeper when a placed shot either side of him would surely have done the trick.
Kearney uncharacteristically poor by his standards.
Little very poor.
Not excited about McAliskey, I'm afraid.
Credit to Coburn for some good handling and saves in atrocious conditions.
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McAliskey didn't play well for me. He lurched around the pitch and lost the ball too easily, and his passes were terrible. Barrow's mid field played very well. I'm thankful their finishing was terrible as Alty would have had a real thrashing. I didn't enjoy the Alty formation, and although the performance was bad, I didn't hear any mass 'booing'.
After that show, we don't need to worry about the play offs.
Does anyone know why our home record is rubbish? Do the players not like Moss Lane?
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Densmore won MOTM despite being the poorest player on the pitch. Rutherford ran him ragged. Must have been an ironic selection !
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Don't think anyone deserved man of the match for Alty . Rutherford was the best player on the pitch in my opinion
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Territorially Barrow were much the better side, though most of the shots they ballooned high and wide might be called half-chances at best. It's not like they were carving us open and missing guilt-edged opportunities.
I actually think that looking over the game as a whole we created fewer, but better, opportunities. I'm thinking McAliskey first-half where his right foot shot was blocked then he took a dreadful left-foot swipe. Doughty's free-kick in a really dangerous position put over the bar. Senior's second-half opportunity where he did brilliantly to fashion the chance by cutting in from the left, only to smash it straight at the keeper, and McAliskey's poke towards goal from a right-wing cross.
A couple of players did well, Smithy looked good. He sprang well to win most high balls and also displayed great touch in wet conditions. I thought Nicky Clee looked really dangerous when he came on. That incisive run then 20-yard shot that went just wide was really unlucky. Was he carrying a knock/bit tired? I'd have thought he's well worth a starting place the way he's playing at the minute. Danylyk also did a lot of dirty work very efficiently, plus nearly scored from 50 yards in the first-half!
I thought that all things considered a draw would have been fair, though you can't moan too much about the result. Barrow looked to have more pace and seemed able to get it out wide often enough to cause us problems. The goal was a decent strike, but I thought Robbie Williams should have closed Nelthorpe down earlier.
Onwards and upwards, 6 points from the next two games and this doesn't look like the end of the world. We've already done Histon this season, and that at our bogey ground - Moss Lane ::) We're well capable of getting a result there.
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We were truly dreadful.
Densmore is NOT a full back!! How may times have we seen him get skimmed this season? Get Smith at full back with Williams and Young in the centre.
As for our midfield.... What midfield? Danylyck is dreadful. I know he tries but he spent most of the game playing catch up. Kearney was absent too. That leaves Denham who, as usual, was our most dangerous player. Senior is not a winger, bless him, and I don't know how he managed to cock up that gilt-edged chance in the 2nd half (set up wonderfully by Little).
McAlisky... maybe give him more time to get to know the players, but he was awful. I did hear the crowd having a go at him when his flick on's weren't reaching an Alty player, but shirley, that's Little/Senior's fault for not realising that that is what he's there for; to flick the ball on to the midgets up front??
As soon as Denham went off, we lost all shape and never looked like scoring.
Bless the Swindon fans for showing up though :)
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Well... I have to say that was an inept and yet again another lacklustre home performance from Alty last night..
The night started bad for me being stuck in the fkn Old Trafford queue from the M6 to the Swan tfc lights.
Cold wet and windy conditions greeted us when we eventually got to the ground..
After watching them play so well at Tamworth last week I though maybe GH would have played Densmore at right midfield rather than fullback.. It seems pretty obvious to me that Densmore isnt happy playing right back. ..
I am now of the opinion that playing at home induces a mental block into the players as they are a totally differently team when they are on the road..
Yet again the wingers were given far too much room by the Alty defence and had Rutherford had any sort of finishing talent the game would have been put to bed by half time..
Mcaliskey huffed and puffed and did his best, I reckon that his lack of pace will need addressing if he wants to succeed in the BSP. he also always seems to be on the back foot rather than his toes when situations occur around him...
i still think that if we can sort out the home form then we are capable of clawing our way back up in the table but they need to do it NOW..
My Alty man of the match .... Smithy closely followed by Danylyk who impresses me the more I see him..
Lets go and sort out the Head tennis fiends of Histon out on Saturday
Cmon Alty.
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We were truly dreadful.
Densmore is NOT a full back!! How may times have we seen him get skimmed this season? Get Smith at full back with Williams and Young in the centre.
As for our midfield.... What midfield? Danylyck is dreadful. I know he tries but he spent most of the game playing catch up. Kearney was absent too. That leaves Denham who, as usual, was our most dangerous player. Senior is not a winger, bless him, and I don't know how he managed to cock up that gilt-edged chance in the 2nd half (set up wonderfully by Little).
McAlisky... maybe give him more time to get to know the players, but he was awful. I did hear the crowd having a go at him when his flick on's weren't reaching an Alty player, but shirley, that's Little/Senior's fault for not realising that that is what he's there for; to flick the ball on to the midgets up front??
As soon as Denham went off, we lost all shape and never looked like scoring.
Bless the Swindon fans for showing up though :)
Cant believe you dont rate Ant Danylyk
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The boo-ing that was heard was the Barrow fans having a go at one of their own players who was winding them up as they were leaving the ground.
I think it could have gone either way, the first goal scored would win it, neither team seemed to be able to shoot straight at times.
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peoples oppinions seem to differ alot straight after matches so iv decided to let it settle till the next day before posting from now on.?firstly the 1st half was a very open game in which we had the better of ,especially on chanches created.yes barrow had lots of shots but you would be happy with a team shooting from the distance they were.cobes wasnt troubled.we had some great opportunities but lacked the composure to play the killer pass or shoot on goal.still think only col has that ability to play them passes consisently.2nd half think they looked more dangerous and more likely to score,but we still looked likely aswell.but if we won 1 nil it wouldnt of lucky it really could of gone either way as in most of are matches even the ones we win?.as for positions surely gh knows his players best he trains with them 2 times a week.smithy is our best centre back for me so dens plays right back.denham must play right wing.so the other side is wat can be tinkered with.not sure col is most effective on left but he keeps making chances for others from deeper but then isnt there to finish them off ?catch 22.crissy senior is doin a fine job but is never goin to be prolific..the big guy is something different which helps.any way suer some will disagree but heres to 3 points at histon.
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peoples oppinions seem to differ alot straight after matches so iv decided to let it settle till the next day before posting from now on.?firstly the 1st half was a very open game in which we had the better of ,especially on chanches created.yes barrow had lots of shots but you would be happy with a team shooting from the distance they were.cobes wasnt troubled.we had some great opportunities but lacked the composure to play the killer pass or shoot on goal.still think only col has that ability to play them passes consisently.2nd half think they looked more dangerous and more likely to score,but we still looked likely aswell.but if we won 1 nil it wouldnt of lucky it really could of gone either way as in most of are matches even the ones we win?.as for positions surely gh knows his players best he trains with them 2 times a week.smithy is our best centre back for me so dens plays right back.denham must play right wing.so the other side is wat can be tinkered with.not sure col is most effective on left but he keeps making chances for others from deeper but then isnt there to finish them off ?catch 22.crissy senior is doin a fine job but is never goin to be prolific..the big guy is something different which helps.any way suer some will disagree but heres to 3 points at histon.
Agree with most of that, although I like 3-5-2 with Densmore and Doughty as wing-backs. One of the few times Shaun looked really good at RB was against Chester. Why? Because the vast majority of the time we were on the front foot, effectively meaning he was playing as a wing-back.
I don't want to go into some hugely detailed and frankly boring tactical assessment of our team, but I just think it's worth mentioning this. Densmore's main weakness as a full-back, IMO, is that when a winger stands Shaun still, then produces a burst of speed to go past him, Shaun lacks the acceleration to keep up with him for the first few yards. He often, as was the case last night, has to resort to last ditch slides in order to try cutting the cross out. Sometimes this isn't enough, other times the winger checks back and Shaun is on his arse. If a centre-half has to come out to meet the winger, we're left very vulnerable in the middle.
In a 3-5-2, Shaun can try to go tight in order to get the challenge in early and burst forward, something he cannot do in a 4-4-2 because it would leave us horribly exposed if he missed the challenge. If he did miss the challenge in a 3-5-2, the right of the three centre-halves moves out to the flank, Doughty as left wing-back tucks in, so we still have three defensive players in the box as well as a man meeting the opposition winger.
Sorry to bleat on, but I just really think it's our best system. Perhaps GH wanted to go for that line-up last night, but Youngy couldn't take his place in the side so he decided against it (any news on why he didn't play?).
It's important to remember we're still having a great season.
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The sponsors' award of Man Of The Match to Densmore only suggests that they overindulged on the pre-match hospitality.
Barrow's left winger, Rutherford, gave him a truly torrid evening.
The better side won.
We were ragged and lacked cohesion and shape.
However, Senior did miss a glorious chance, shooting straight at the goalkeeper when a placed shot either side of him would surely have done the trick.
Kearney uncharacteristically poor by his standards.
Little very poor.
Not excited about McAliskey, I'm afraid.
Credit to Coburn for some good handling and saves in atrocious conditions.
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We should just wear our away kit for games at Moss Lane!
I don't think we can argue about getting turned over last night. There were some positives though: I thought Coburn had a good game, Danylyk put in a good shift and Smith impresses game after game. It's still a good season and if we can get three points at Histon and build some momentum from that then we're still in with a shout of the paly off's. Home form has got to improve, though, and quickly.
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We should just wear our away kit for games at Moss Lane!
I don't think there's actually anything to stop us doing this. Maybe we should! :D
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the cult and timperly the best .how can you honestly say little was very poor and mcalisky aswell?.wat did col do wrong .he created chances for senior .controled the ball when he was passed it and did fine.mcalisky just needs match fitness.
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I wonder why Dens is such a success as a right back for the England C team but seems to have more problems playing for Alty.
Could it be perhaps that, like last night, he is totally and absolutely exposed playing for us. Last night there seemed to be nobody playing in front of him so he was doubled up on by Barrow.
I'd play him either as a wing back or on the right side of midfield in front of Smithy although I do think the back three of Smithy Greg and Robbie (or Welchy) does appeal
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Well... I have to say that was an inept and yet again another lacklustre home performance from Alty last night..
The night started bad for me being stuck in the fkn Old Trafford queue from the M6 to the Swan tfc lights.
Cold wet and windy conditions greeted us when we eventually got to the ground..
After watching them play so well at Tamworth last week I though maybe GH would have played Densmore at right midfield rather than fullback.. It seems pretty obvious to me that Densmore isnt happy playing right back. ..
I am now of the opinion that playing at home induces a mental block into the players as they are a totally differently team when they are on the road..
Yet again the wingers were given far too much room by the Alty defence and had Rutherford had any sort of finishing talent the game would have been put to bed by half time..
Mcaliskey huffed and puffed and did his best, I reckon that his lack of pace will need addressing if he wants to succeed in the BSP. he also always seems to be on the back foot rather than his toes when situations occur around him...
i still think that if we can sort out the home form then we are capable of clawing our way back up in the table but they need to do it NOW..
My Alty man of the match .... Smithy closely followed by Danylyk who impresses me the more I see him..
Lets go and sort out the Head tennis fiends of Histon out on Saturday
Cmon Alty.
Spot on Ray in my view.
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peoples oppinions seem to differ alot straight after matches so iv decided to let it settle till the next day before posting from now on.?firstly the 1st half was a very open game in which we had the better of ,especially on chanches created.yes barrow had lots of shots but you would be happy with a team shooting from the distance they were.cobes wasnt troubled.we had some great opportunities but lacked the composure to play the killer pass or shoot on goal.still think only col has that ability to play them passes consisently.2nd half think they looked more dangerous and more likely to score,but we still looked likely aswell.but if we won 1 nil it wouldnt of lucky it really could of gone either way as in most of are matches even the ones we win?.as for positions surely gh knows his players best he trains with them 2 times a week.smithy is our best centre back for me so dens plays right back.denham must play right wing.so the other side is wat can be tinkered with.not sure col is most effective on left but he keeps making chances for others from deeper but then isnt there to finish them off ?catch 22.crissy senior is doin a fine job but is never goin to be prolific..the big guy is something different which helps.any way suer some will disagree but heres to 3 points at histon.
Agree with most of that, although I like 3-5-2 with Densmore and Doughty as wing-backs. One of the few times Shaun looked really good at RB was against Chester. Why? Because the vast majority of the time we were on the front foot, effectively meaning he was playing as a wing-back.
I don't want to go into some hugely detailed and frankly boring tactical assessment of our team, but I just think it's worth mentioning this. Densmore's main weakness as a full-back, IMO, is that when a winger stands Shaun still, then produces a burst of speed to go past him, Shaun lacks the acceleration to keep up with him for the first few yards. He often, as was the case last night, has to resort to last ditch slides in order to try cutting the cross out. Sometimes this isn't enough, other times the winger checks back and Shaun is on his arse. If a centre-half has to come out to meet the winger, we're left very vulnerable in the middle.
In a 3-5-2, Shaun can try to go tight in order to get the challenge in early and burst forward, something he cannot do in a 4-4-2 because it would leave us horribly exposed if he missed the challenge. If he did miss the challenge in a 3-5-2, the right of the three centre-halves moves out to the flank, Doughty as left wing-back tucks in, so we still have three defensive players in the box as well as a man meeting the opposition winger.
Sorry to bleat on, but I just really think it's our best system. Perhaps GH wanted to go for that line-up last night, but Youngy couldn't take his place in the side so he decided against it (any news on why he didn't play?).
It's important to remember we're still having a great season.
Agreed, Densmore is definately better on the right side of midfield or at wing back bombing down the flank.
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The boo-ing that was heard was the Barrow fans having a go at one of their own players who was winding them up as they were leaving the ground.
Errr, no it wasn't! It was the Barrow fans having a go at Heathcote who was biting like mad and giving all sorts of come on gestures etc. Same old Heathcote!
There was one of our own players (Tim Deasy) warming down nearby though so I can see how you may have been mistaken.
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a crap performance. all i have to say on this game