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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: JohnnyInTheBridge on December 30, 2006, 11:15:35 PM
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So... no mention of the post match shenanigans in the bar....
Have to be honest.... it was a tad unsavoury.... but.....
FEK EM........
Four outta the door.... two more sneaked out the back with their ears ringing....
Can't imagine for a minute that anybody from FGR will bother turning up if Alty play em next year....what a loss.
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it was mostly handbags but i doubt they'll be coming back. but to be honest they might aswell have brought none today
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Simple fact is that a FGR fan came in the bar and decided to say how they battered us on the pitch and shout this fact into an Alty fans face ! , not the most sensible thing to do when you are one of the most hated clubs to come to Moss Lane
He did well though to cause trouble when only 12 away fans turned up. PATHETIC. Worst away following for many a season at Moss Lane.
We gave them a 2-0 head start with our reserves at their ground - DREW
We let them have the lead twice and put in the worst performance of the season - DREW
OH YES AND THIS IS A FULL TIME CLUB !
PS: I'd be upset if we took that little amount of fans to a preseason friendly in Iraq.
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The game on a whole was quite poor, but you cant help but feel the team was knackered from boxing day, lets just hope they all rest today for tomorow.
I totally understand tension can build and people quite often get lost in the moment, but i was in the FAMILY stand yesterday watching with 2 younger members of my family, i thought it was disgusting and embarassing that two altyt fans walked to the foot of the steps in the family stand and proceeded to shout things like "f**king scumbags" repeatedly to the FG players and staff. What a joke, im all for passion and pride, but with obscenities like the one i have mentioned being shouted in front of children it is a disgrace.
I like everyone else yesterday was fired up and felt anger towards the FG staff and players, it was for that reason that I chose to take my younger cousins into the family stand, so they didn't have to hear comments like they did. Whoever it was should remember a FAMILY STAND quite often means children will be present!!!
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I heard shouting from the Main Stand after the game but nothing from the Family Stand. It would have to have been a loud shout from there.
Tensions were always going to be high in this game and truth be told it was nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be. This may have been due to the Boxing Day massacre of Northwich Victoria making us all happy ;D.
Its a football ground and it was staging a game between a club that we all love and one that was trying to ruin us last season. Their Directors and bench had acted out of order after the second goal and wouldn't have blamed the directors of Altrincham FC for going over and letting them know what they thought of them.
Although needless swearing is well needless it doesn't stop the fact that it was bound to happen with what has gone on with the two clubs. May I suggest you inform one of the stewards if someone is offending you in the Family Stand in future although I am surprised that non went over if it was in a family area.
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the two fans walked from the area behind the goal to the bottom of the steps in the family stand to shout these comments. i agree that the game was full of passion and pride cz i too was fired up as i have already said, but to bring comments like those to the family area was a disgrace which ever way you look at it.
we are supposed to be attracting fans young and olf but i personally dont think i will bring children to the game again. its such as shame that grown adults can not control there language when in an area with children. if this happend in the gold road end for example then i would not complain because it would have been my fault for taking children into that area but it happend in a family area.
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I believe that the incident happened at the bottom of the Main Stand steps and the opposite side to the Family Stand, which is the smaller stand to the right of the Main Stand.
Either way it just looks like emotions got the better of people. I'm sure the culprits were just over excited and did not mean to drive children away. A lot of history between to the two clubs.
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yeh i know i have supported alty for many years and as i have already stated i two was excited and fired up. totally understand people gettin lost in the moment. believe me myself, the children and other children with their parents also heard the disgusting language. just a shame that all.
lets hope we aren't too tired to cheer them on tomorow, with nw yr celebrations etc.
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It's a bit of a conundrum isn't it. Either there's a campaign to ban swearing at football matches, or you have to accept that if you take children to a game they are going to be exposed to some unsavoury language or chanting.
At the game at Burton last season, when stewards challenged one Alty fan over his language on the grounds that there were children present, my response to them was that this was a football match, not a kindergarten.
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And it does not help when GH uses the "F" word when shouting at the players to motivate them. :o :o
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And it does not help when GH uses the "F" word when shouting at the players to motivate them. :o :o
I had my 3 year old daughter sat in the main stand not too far from GH. It is sad that at a family friendly club like Alty we heard abusive language from our fans and GH.
It would be stupid to ban swearing as everybody is entitled to free speech, but I am sure that Alty would have more support from people bringing their kids if there was less swearing. We need as much support as possible and the kids who get in free today are the paying fans of tomorrow!!
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We i.e the Stewarding staff have attempted on any number of occasions to deal with the issue of swearing only to be told, in really quite florid terms that the perpetrators will be more inclined toward moderating their language when the players and bench stop swearing.
Any suggestions?
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I have been guilty of using foul language at football matches, and it is always going to happen. However, there is less excuse for it in a family area or when you know there'll be children in close proximity.
All I hope is that those who see nothing wrong with being foul mouthed and abusive at Alty games don't then complain about our gates not being as high as they should be...
Good point about those on the pitch and in the dug out setting an example too!
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Are people saying that they are not capable of advising their children what's right and what's wrong? I am sure that we have all learned words and phrases from hearing other people using them in a variety of situations. However, most of us do not spend our life swearing unnecessarily, so therefore it would appear that we have also learnt to moderate our speech depending on the situation - sometimes at a high tension football match, people will shout things that I would prefer not to hear, but I accept that it will happen - it doesn't make me want to use those same words when I go home.
Yes, we would all hope that people will moderate their language when there are children around, but neither can we all live our lives wrapped in cotton wool.
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I blame it on chef Ramsey :'(
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WA15 .... you are spot on......
You can't sanitise the game to the point where bad language becomes an ejectable offence. Its down to the parents to educate and discipline their kids as to where colourful language is and isn't acceptable.
However, while I do have sympathy for those in The Family Stand where it should be less prevalent, even if it is eradicated there, its still likely that the kids will be able to hear it eminating from elsewhere in the ground, so you are probably fighting an unwinnable cause.
Despite how the game is portrayed on the box, watching football will always revolve around a couple of beers, venting your frustrations and hugging perfect strangers of the same sex (in a celebratory fashion you understand ! ).
They've already stopped us drinking beer in view of the pitch and even standing up to watch games at a higher level, for gods sake lets not allow the more sensitive minority removing even more of the edge from the game.
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We i.e the Stewarding staff have attempted on any number of occasions to deal with the issue of swearing only to be told, in really quite florid terms that the perpetrators will be more inclined toward moderating their language when the players and bench stop swearing.
Any suggestions?
Yes.
Mind your own f**king business, Phil....!
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By making an issue it just makes the children more likely to use the language rather than just ignoring it ? They probably hear worse at home, in the playground, on the TV and if you say otherwise you are deluding yourself.
Its a football match people. Should all songs with swearing in be banned as well ? Should we all just sit down and do the odd rar rar and clap politley after incidents on the pitch ?
About swearing and gates not being as high as they should be, don't Manchester United fans swear then. Man United have some of the most offensive songs going but it doesn't affect their attendances one little bit.
I think the point has been made but people are going a bit ott with it all. Its football. It happens. Lets all get on with supporting the club.
Looks like its bobble hats and rattles all round for Halifax then ;D ;D
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swearing has and always will be part of watching live football. Nobody swears for the sake of it. its all part of the live experience and terrace culture.
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You can have some karma for that picture Hulme Robin ;D
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That's not fair.
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It seems clear that the incident being discussed took part at the bottom of the steps in the Mainstand, and nowhere near the Family Stand. As a person who works with young people in schools every day, the language used on the terraces is not all that different from that used by pupils and therefore heard in schools every day, yes, shocking as it may seem, even primary schools, so unfortunately the children however young will not have heard anything new.
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For christ sake moss lane is a great atmosphere for all ages and we should all be very proud of this and it sounds like it was unfortunate for the comments to be heard by any children, as for the bar thing i certainly wouldnt go into an opposing teams bar and start shooting my mouth about who was the better team what a xxxx,he deserved it anyway i saw his dad giving him a right bollocking as they left,and i think our lads were quite embarassed which shows they're gentleman, the most dicusting thing ive seen this season was in that freindly when fc united kids were actually joining in the fighting! bet theyve got an interesting family stand! ;D
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For christ sake
Praise you Jesus!
Of course, swearing could be banned, racist chanting was after all. Didn't Woking or someone do some sort of clean up the game campaign?
Interestingly enough, there was a time (some time before the 1960's I think) when there was not a lot of swearing at football matches. Are we any better for it? I doubt it.
Having said that, the main thing to worry about is threatening and abusive behaviour, such stuff is none the better for being said without swear words.
It's not big and it's not clever, but on many occasions, stewards probably have bigger things to worry about. Unfortunate maybe, but probably true.