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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Jacko on April 28, 2009, 12:06:42 PM
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;DIn terms of strengthening the side I would like to see a left winger I suppose were back here again aren't we!!! Do we realy need one?
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Defence is fine. We need another genuine wide player along with Denham (not necessarily playing at the same time!) and a 20+ goals per season striker
Plus a reserve team in the Cheshire League to give the fringe players match practice in a non-combatitive environment and bring on the most promising players in the youth team.
If I win the Lotto tonight, we'll be fine
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Agree Stu and the back 3/4/5 depending on the system is fine.
Our midfield is steady, although I think we're a little short on numbers. If Lawton or Danyllyk gets injured, we're okay to shift Densmore in but any further absentees and we're starting to get really threadbare.
If Dale can continue to progress I'm hoping he'll up his goal tally to 10-15. Combined with Senior, Little and Denham chipping in I'm hopeful of mid-table and a run in the Cup or Trophy.
PS. In his few cameos I think Super Joe looked decent at the back end of the season.
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We're desperate for a couple of central midfielders - Danylyk and Lawton aren't good enough. Someone who is comfortable on the ball, is creative and can provide good link up with the forwards. At the moment, our game involves getting the ball up to the front asap, completely bypassing the midfield - usually because it's lost far too quickly imo. I'd like to see Kevin Street get some games next year.
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Teh squad needs to be a little bigger - a couple of injuries and suspensions and we struggle to put out a full bench.
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We're desperate for a couple of central midfielders - Danylyk and Lawton aren't good enough. Someone who is comfortable on the ball, is creative and can provide good link up with the forwards. At the moment, our game involves getting the ball up to the front asap, completely bypassing the midfield - usually because it's lost far too quickly imo. I'd like to see Kevin Street get some games next year.
Quality post. Totally correct in my opinion!!
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not sure about the street bit he's not mobile enough for this league hate to be negative but dont think he'll be here next season IMO
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We let in too many goals this season why?
Personally I dont see it being the defence that was weak but the midfield.
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i would like to see an attacking midfielder brought in who can pick out a telling pass and is comfortable on the ball (a big ask I know). defence wise I am happy with the lads who are there now, I would also like to see more width.. and most of all my biggest gripe is that we should leave someone up on the half way for corners etc.. I hope the club can keep the majority of the lads who saw us through this season, just a couple more to bolster the squad... Finally I would like to see the end of players getting silly cautions for arguing with the ref.. There isnt a ref alive that is going to change his mind due to a player moaning at him...
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not sure about the street bit he's not mobile enough for this league hate to be negative but dont think he'll be here next season IMO
Sorry I din't mean about the Street part but rather the need for qaulity ball player centre mid!
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Can't see Joe being here next year to be honest...people will have to go if others are to come in and that will be the fringe players and Warren Peyton.
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In terms of building for next season, we desparately need to improve on the goals for column and reduce the goals conceded.(stating the obvious really, but it's that simple!)
As stated elsewhere, there is a heavy reliance on Colin Little to score 15+ each season but it is the duty of other squad members to contribute as well. Given that we regularly bear witness of the urgency to get the ball upfield to the front 2, this instruction must come from one area The Manager, midfielders are told to hold position and avoid going gung ho. Perhaps this is the real reason behind the lack of goals coming from that area.
Danylyk and Lawton are more than capable of holding their own at this level and given further freedom to roam would perhaps actually improve our tally of goals. They are constantly in the thick of it and do more than their fair share of defending to support the back four.
Ideally it would be good to see a liitle bit more rotation of Stuart Coburn and Richard Acton to avoid complacency.
Too many teams this season have locked in on our left hand side and seen that as the area to exploit.
Defensively, former posts argue we are strong but the reality is the goals conceded column which does not support the argument.
In summary I think the current squad needs a couple of tweaks but no radical surgery and we will surely attain a position above mid table next season.
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In addition tall the above comments I think it's imperative that those players who stay from the current squad look to take it up a notch or two wherever possible. There have been some great performers throughout the season but there is always room for improvement (some more than others obviously!).
This team has the potential to go on to bigger and better things if we can make the right additions this summer. Some incredibly shrewd signings have been made in the last 12 months and if we could replicate that over the next 12 months who knows what we might achieve?
There is nothing to stop us emulating what Histon have done although I'd like to think we could do it in a slightly more "aesthetically pleasing" fashion. :)
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In terms of building for next season, we desparately need to improve on the goals for column and reduce the goals conceded.(stating the obvious really, but it's that simple!)
As stated elsewhere, there is a heavy reliance on Colin Little to score 15+ each season but it is the duty of other squad members to contribute as well. Given that we regularly bear witness of the urgency to get the ball upfield to the front 2, this instruction must come from one area The Manager, midfielders are told to hold position and avoid going gung ho. Perhaps this is the real reason behind the lack of goals coming from that area.
Danylyk and Lawton are more than capable of holding their own at this level and given further freedom to roam would perhaps actually improve our tally of goals. They are constantly in the thick of it and do more than their fair share of defending to support the back four.
Ideally it would be good to see a liitle bit more rotation of Stuart Coburn and Richard Acton to avoid complacency.
Too many teams this season have locked in on our left hand side and seen that as the area to exploit.
Defensively, former posts argue we are strong but the reality is the goals conceded column which does not support the argument.
In summary I think the current squad needs a couple of tweaks but no radical surgery and we will surely attain a position above mid table next season.
Richard Acton is a good back up keeper and should be kept as such. No need to rotate the keepers because he's not a patch on Stuart Coburn.
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I think the dismissal of our central midfield partnership as not good enough is a little harsh.
I agree we bypass them too often, but that could be as much about having a back four that's poor on the ball as anything else (I'm not knocking the back four, their main job is to defend). It could also be an attempt to utilise Dale and get flicks on.
I have to say, whilst the guy turned out to be a bit of a prick, I liked the 3-4-3 with Elam and Senior flanking Little. That way even if were direct we could knock it into the corners and continue to attack rather than hope a Dale flick works out...
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How about playing colin in the attacking midfield position. He is the best player on the ball at the club. Play 5 , 3 , 2 with wing backs and either senior, dale or denham up top. He would still pop up with goals and i do believe that if Denham is fit for a season he will score us quite a few. Just a thought as it would be hard to fill Colins boots up front.
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How about playing colin in the attacking midfield position. He is the best player on the ball at the club. Play 5 , 3 , 2 with wing backs and either senior, dale or denham up top. He would still pop up with goals and i do believe that if Denham is fit for a season he will score us quite a few. Just a thought as it would be hard to fill Colins boots up front.
I've heard worse suggestions. However, with Col it's a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.
If you pull him back into mid you get the benefit of his technique and vision. However, he won't be on the end of as many chances and he's by far and away our best finisher.
Leave him up top and whilst you'll back him to stick any chance that comes his way into the onion bag, we sometimes lack the creativity to make chances for him.
Could be worse, we could be without Colin Little at all!
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totally agree mate furertes.good suggestion
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How about playing colin in the attacking midfield position. He is the best player on the ball at the club. Play 5 , 3 , 2 with wing backs and either senior, dale or denham up top. He would still pop up with goals and i do believe that if Denham is fit for a season he will score us quite a few. Just a thought as it would be hard to fill Colins boots up front.
I've heard worse suggestions. However, with Col it's a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.
If you pull him back into mid you get the benefit of his technique and vision. However, he won't be on the end of as many chances and he's by far and away our best finisher.
Leave him up top and whilst you'll back him to stick any chance that comes his way into the onion bag, we sometimes lack the creativity to make chances for him.
Could be worse, we could be without Colin Little at all!
Lets just clone him and have him up top and centre of the park. He could set himself up then. ;D
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After tonights meeting 3 confirmed still contracted for next season Young,Little and Danylyk or the rest free agents.
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Lets sign Andy Mangan
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After tonights meeting 3 confirmed still contracted for next season Young,Little and Danylyk
To me, that's excellent news. Danylyk has a had a bit of criticism on here for not being good enough, but I don't think (albeit in the limited games I've seen this season) he's looked out of place at all. He took a big step up to the Conference last season, he's young and he will get better. If he improves his distribution and temperament I little, he'll be a very good midfielder for us - doing the unglamouress, dirty work in the middle.
Now get Densmore on a contract, quick!!
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In my mind Colin Little can not play midfield. His control and distribution would be good but how often do you see a tackle being put in by him?
It wont work.
Leave him up top if he continues.
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In my mind Colin Little can not play midfield. His control and distribution would be good but how often do you see a tackle being put in by him?
It wont work.
Leave him up top if he continues.
If he continues? He said he thought he could play 'til he's 40 didn't he?
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He wouldnt need to tackle put Lawton and Danylyk in there with him hence playing the 5, 3, 2 formation. They would win the ball back for him. How many attacking midfielders can tackle?
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After tonights meeting 3 confirmed still contracted for next season Young,Little and Danylyk
he'll be a very good midfielder for us - doing the unglamouress, dirty work in the middle.
Well if this Danylyk's role then what is Robbies?
I think if we want to progress (don't get me wrong i'm happy with 15th) this is where the change needs to happen. Replace one of them with a ballplayer(just need to find one now!).
On a seperate point what does everyone think our best back 4 is because it appears that if everyone is fit that McGregor has been dropped?!
I would say
Smith Mcgregor Young Doughty
I like Welch but I still prefer Mcgregor- he reads the game so well. What does everyone think??
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He wouldnt need to tackle put Lawton and Danylyk in there with him hence playing the 5, 3, 2 formation. They would win the ball back for him. How many attacking midfielders can tackle?
I agree this is Littles best position in the hole between (defensive) midfielders and the forward line. Too often he plays right up on the line and he gets muscled of the ball. Give him a pocket of space and he would be awesome!
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scholes now he can tackle .he he
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He wouldnt need to tackle put Lawton and Danylyk in there with him hence playing the 5, 3, 2 formation. They would win the ball back for him. How many attacking midfielders can tackle?
Where do you fit him in within a 3 man midfield? You dont in my opinion as he would probably have to play central and that would leave us weak in the centre of the park, unless you played a very tight 3 man midfield. If you did this the defence would then have to be fluid to switch from 532 to 352 and i dont believe we have those players really for 90 minutes.
However he could play in a 5 2 1 2 formation as the 1. But then this causes problems with width, again unless the defensive wingbacks are very fluid.
I could only really see it as a 4 3 1 2 formation playing just behind the front two.
But as a central midfielder no it just wont work in my opinion.
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I wouldn't get rid of Lawton or Danylyk. However, I would like a Val Owen type player to play alongside either of them.
I think it's worth also remembering that Danylyk is still very young and, with careful nurturing, has the potential to have a really bright future at Alty. His injury at York in December probably didn't help him much in the latter part of the season.
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he's 27 if thats young i should go back to school :P
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he's 27 if thats young i should go back to school :P
He's still young in my eyes! :D ... But then so is Colin Little ::)
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I actually thought he was a lot younger than that. He certainly looks a lot younger!
Would still keep him though. :)
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After tonights meeting 3 confirmed still contracted for next season Young,Little and Danylyk
he'll be a very good midfielder for us - doing the unglamouress, dirty work in the middle.
Well if this Danylyk's role then what is Robbies?
I think if we want to progress (don't get me wrong i'm happy with 15th) this is where the change needs to happen. Replace one of them with a ballplayer(just need to find one now!).
Robbie Lawton is the only player we have across the midfield who can mix it physically in the conference. We missed him big time when he was out. He's had a bit of stick in recent seasons but I think everybody would agree that was due to the circumstance of playing out of position on the right wing. He's a decent conference midfielder.
I think we're wishing a bit with all this talk of a midfielder who can put his foot on the ball and still hold his own (Carmo&Craney). I don't think they exist in the conference, not at our level and rate of pay anyway. We're at out best when we can hassle and harry the oppo midfield enough and get the ball to our ball players (Little, Johnson, Densmore, Doughty, Smith) or over the top for Senior or Denham.
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After tonights meeting 3 confirmed still contracted for next season Young,Little and Danylyk
he'll be a very good midfielder for us - doing the unglamouress, dirty work in the middle.
Well if this Danylyk's role then what is Robbies?
I think if we want to progress (don't get me wrong i'm happy with 15th) this is where the change needs to happen. Replace one of them with a ballplayer(just need to find one now!).
Robbie Lawton is the only player we have across the midfield who can mix it physically in the conference. We missed him big time when he was out. He's had a bit of stick in recent seasons but I think everybody would agree that was due to the circumstance of playing out of position on the right wing. He's a decent conference midfielder.
I think we're wishing a bit with all this talk of a midfielder who can put his foot on the ball and still hold his own (Carmo&Craney). I don't think they exist in the conference, not at our level and rate of pay anyway. We're at out best when we can hassle and harry the oppo midfield enough and get the ball to our ball players (Little, Johnson, Densmore, Doughty, Smith) or over the top for Senior or Denham.
Spot on, Ballers, in both cases. I couldn't agree more.
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What everybody is forgetting is we could have this midfielder that we desperately need back by August, maybe September.
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Smith Mcgregor Young Doughty
I like Welch but I still prefer Mcgregor- he reads the game so well. What does everyone think??
It's a difficult one. I agree about McGregor's reading of the game and it's got to be good to have someone around with his experience. On the other hand I think Welch did well towards the end of the season and he has the physical presence against some of the trolls you see playing up front for other teams in this league.
It would be nice to think we could keep them both.
BTW. I was looking at the player profiles on the offocial site... is it right that Welch and Young have identical dates of birth? Or has JL gone wild with the cut'n'paste?
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Welch is our 6th best defender in my opinion. I probably wouldn't rate him alongisde Young and Mcgregor, rides his luck alot and doesnt seem to have much acceleration and that is the thing we are missing. Our most talented player is James Smith without a doubt. Signings wise we basically need a proven goalscorer as apart from perhaps Colin, no-one else has scored enough
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James Smith is the most underrated player in our squad FACT
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James Smith is the most underrated player in our squad FACT
i dont think we have seen the best of him to be fair , actually gets a bit of stick off one or two on the popular side.
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In my opinion we need to ship 4 players out this year and bring in 6 new faces.
With an increased squad of 2 more players and 4 positions/subs strengthened we will do well.
I have not mentioned any names as i dont feel that would be productive.
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In my opinion we need to ship 4 players out this year and bring in 6 new faces.
With an increased squad of 2 more players and 4 positions/subs strengthened we will do well.
I have not mentioned any names as i dont feel that would be productive.
Quite right Jenga, names are not needed but I'd love to keep hold of Ben Wilkinson and Warren Peyton
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If we can manage it we should get Shaun Densmore to sign another contract.
Even if, as some people would have it, he isn't ready to move up into the League yet he will be within a season or two so we might as well try to get some form of recompense for our input into his development.
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Quite right Jenga, names are not needed but I'd love to keep hold of Ben Wilkinson and Warren Peyton
Ha, well if your being serious I am starting a campaign to ask you to step down as Supporters Team Manager!
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I'd love to keep hold of Ben Wilkinson and Warren Peyton
Nice touch! ;D
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In my opinion we need to ship 4 players out this year and bring in 6 new faces.
With an increased squad of 2 more players and 4 positions/subs strengthened we will do well.
I have not mentioned any names as i dont feel that would be productive.
Quite right Jenga, names are not needed but I'd love to keep hold of Ben Wilkinson and Warren Peyton
Wise words, Ecky.
And I do so pray that we offer Joe O'Neill another two year contract and make Pat McFadden's loan deal permanent, too.....