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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: joe on March 31, 2009, 07:15:05 PM
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Only O'Neill and McFadden on the bench! Peyton starts as Lawton has picked up a back injury.
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What about Deegan?
Not the position to be in.
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What about the chap on loan from York?
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What about the chap on loan from York?
hes starting
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Altrincham: Coburn, Lane, McGregor, Young, Doughty, Densmore, Peyton, Danylyk, Wilkinson, Johnson, Little.
Subs: Lawton, Denham, O'Neill, McFadden, Senior.
According to BBC - I guess the subs other then O'Neil & McFadden have been named just to fill the places?
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What about Deegan?
Not the position to be in.
Deegan hasn't travelled
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Is anyones commentary working. My Real Player wont play :(
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mine is working
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bugger 1 down after 5 1/2 minutes
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Damn Im glad my commentary isnt working then :(
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launch in stand alone player
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do I then click find or save?
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Pat Macfaddens back
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go to bbc football website click on non league click on commentarys then ebbsfleet commentary then when player comes upclick play in stand alone player.
Cols just missed a sitter
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go to bbc football website click on non league click on commentarys then ebbsfleet commentary then when player comes upclick play in stand alone player.
Cols just missed a sitter
Damn
Strangely I keep getting a message box come up asking me if I want to find or save wehn I click play in standalone player. If I click save I get a file redirect page for Media player
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strange that then,cannot help
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No worries mate will make do with text commentary
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i have trouble with real player on my laptop,so know what you are going through
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Hi everyone.
I notice that ex FGR player Stuart Fleetwood is moving back down the league - full debut for Exeter tonight
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i have trouble with real player on my laptop,so know what you are going through
Its really odd as Ive used it for listening to 5 live on the pc, yet it wont work for local commentaries
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hes on loan here from charlton,been here for about 2 weeks.
Let off for us then offside
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Have you gone to preferances and then selected Real Player?
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You are missing the sound of no fans, a lengthy discussion on the unfairness of "the fleet's" fixtures and the odd bit of commentary whenever they approach our goal. I have heard them refer to Young, Glen Johnson and Danny Lock playing for us. These are the worst commentators I've heard in many Alty matches.
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Yeah it asked me to slecet if I wanted to use Real player. I selected Real Player and it brings up the Real player. When I press play, it just says Ready!!
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see vics are 1 up
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You are missing the sound of no fans, a lengthy discussion on the unfairness of "the fleet's" fixtures and the odd bit of commentary whenever they approach our goal. I have heard them refer to Young, Glen Johnson and Danny Lock playing for us. These are the worst commentators I've heard in many Alty matches.
They don't know the meaning of fixture backlog!
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You are missing the sound of no fans, a lengthy discussion on the unfairness of "the fleet's" fixtures and the odd bit of commentary whenever they approach our goal. I have heard them refer to Young, Glen Johnson and Danny Lock playing for us. These are the worst commentators I've heard in many Alty matches.
lol the guy on channel m called Micheal Welch Chris Welsh this morning!!
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see vics are 1 up
Thats Grand!
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Kettering have equalized at Burton too
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mrs rayner is the ref according to these to lol
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Burton haven't been as good without Cloughie
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shakes is giving the alty left back all sorts of problems
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they have already given the fleet the 3 points
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shakes is giving the alty left back all sorts of problems
Is he giving him the shakes?
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shakes is giving the alty left back all sorts of problems
Is he giving him the shakes?
Are we a bit shakey at the back?
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all we need is rattle and roll
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brilliant save by cronin from wilkinson
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Seems as though we're getting a couple of chances
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Any indication how Wilko is doing?
You know we don't have any Wilkinsons shops in Scotland?
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cleared off the fleet line then densmore puts it over the bar
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Any indication how Wilko is doing?
You know we don't have any Wilkinsons shops in Scotland?
I didnt know that!!
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sounds like the long ball is causing them trouble.
35 yard shot now from densmore .
Altrincham are having a go and fleet are having a problem
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super save from stu now its end to end stuff
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Any indication how Wilko is doing?
You know we don't have any Wilkinsons shops in Scotland?
I didnt know that!!
But we do have Wilkinsons swords!
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another good chance to densmore
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I hope the forwards are ready to scavenge any 'keeper spills from a Densmore shot
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'we can come out in the second half and win by 3 goals' what a pair of w@@kers
alty have not worked any shots on target Idiots
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Any indication how Wilko is doing?
You know we don't have any Wilkinsons shops in Scotland?
I didnt know that!!
But we do have Wilkinsons swords!
I take it that Wilkinson doesnt mind?!! lol
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Any indication how Wilko is doing?
You know we don't have any Wilkinsons shops in Scotland?
I didnt know that!!
But we do have Wilkinsons swords!
I take it that Wilkinson doesnt mind?!! lol
lol
I notice Church has scored for Wales U21 in Llanelli(!!!!)
Does that singer/presenter/actress have no end to her talents?
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she sure has 2 big talents
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according to sky "Altrincham are in control of the match - key player Shaun Densmore"
40 minuites
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she sure has 2 big talents
Good tits as well!!!!
Oh - err - I geddit! Thats what you were suggesting wasn't it?
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rofl if you say so JD
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according to sky "Altrincham are in control of the match - key player Shaun Densmore"
40 minuites
Also according to Sky Gash has been fumbled by Coburn! 45 mins
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Half time
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Other than the scorer I don't think Ebbsfleet have been any great Shakes
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I hope GH shakes them up a bit at half time
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Dale off for O'Neil
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FFS O'Neill on :o :o :o
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Joe on for Dale
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FFS O'Neill on :o :o :o
He'll do ok
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See him score a hat-trick now!
(I think I say that every time he comes on as sub)
I hope its not Johnsons hamstring playing up
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If it is, best to get him off at half-time and not risk any further damage
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Hopefully it was a precautionary measure................
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Hopefully
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Seem to have had a few chances
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York 1 down
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just going to say that
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Chance of warehouse fire causing abandonment ;) ;) ;)
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we are still in this they are not doing anything
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Chance of warehouse fire causing abandonment ;) ;) ;)
Seriously?
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we are still in this they are not doing anything
But aren't they going to get 3!!!!????
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one of the alty officals has been asked to move by the ref and 4th offical,DM on his track suit who ever that is (DEAN MARTIN)?
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I notice Eastbourne beating Crawley 2-0
and Salisbury equalised v Vics
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great save by cronin from young
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one of the alty officals has been asked to move by the ref and 4th offical,DM on his track suit who ever that is (DEAN MARTIN)?
Dastardly (&) Mutley
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York 2 down, Salisbury level at Vics
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one of the alty officals has been asked to move by the ref and 4th offical,DM on his track suit who ever that is (DEAN MARTIN)?
Dave Mitten kit man
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another good claim by cronin from little
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fans are trying to lift the fleet players with a sing song silence is golden by the sound of it
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its all alty at the moment
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fans are trying to lift the fleet player with a sing song silence is golden by the sound of it
which 'fleet player?
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these two have now decided its going to be a nervous last 15 minutes,we have that most weeks lol
Peyton is now a wide guy lol
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these two have now decided its going to be a nervous last 15 minutes,we have that most weeks lol
I take it they are not so cocky now!
I wonder just how nervous the fleet players are getting with their league position. The tension may lead to a mistake or 2
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Let's all will the free kick in!!!!!
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Yet another free kick on the edge of their box WASTED >:( >:( >:(
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woeful free kick
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It's about time we grabbed a late goal given all the ones we've conceded late this season!
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Wonder if GH will give McFads a quick dash up front
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he might dash past gash
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he might dash past gash
lol
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especially past the Laurent Blanc look-a-like
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4 Mins added
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phew a let off there these two reckon fleet should have had a pen,4 minutes to go
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Same old story Alty spurn opportunities!
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ft blast
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FULL TIME. EBBSFLEET 1-0 ALTY
Plenty of chances but absolutely woeful finishing, >:( >:( >:(
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Souds like the sort of match where we can be disappointed not to have got something
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f**k it, lets get it won on Saturday
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We remain 15th 7 points above relegation
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The VICS can't catch us ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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That may be so, but the likelihood is, we still need to win a game. Saturday is a must, if only to relieve the preasure a bit.
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That may be so, but the likelihood is, we still need to win a game. Saturday is a must, if only to relieve the preasure a bit.
Agree totally.
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We need 2 perhaps 3 points, hopefully 3 will come at Lewes if we turn up and do a proper job. Otherwise they should come in the games left, not bothered about tonight, a graveyard for us. With Grays home still to go plus Eastbourne, we'll do another 6 min I reckon. Safest finish in 4 years. Move on from this too.
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Im very disapointed with tonights result, I thought after a tidy performance against Crawley a point against a team 10 points below us and fighting in a relagation battle would have been repectable. Its not as if we were outplayed it was a 50 50 game, where we had chances, but failed to capitalise. Now I can understand the lads are going to be cream crackered, you could see that in the last 15mins agaist Crawley, and only having 13 fit players tonight with Dale going off at half time certainly didn't help us. But what is worrying me is the amount of games we are playing where points are avalible but we are not taking our chances, I hope that does not bite us come May. We are certainly better this year than the relegation places, no worse then 15th place.
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I pretty much agree with CP. We deserved at least a point tonight. I am disappointed with the result but I thought we played well especially with our limited resources.
We were awful in the first 10 minutes and paid the price after 2 warnings from a very lively attack.
However we got better as the game went on and we were the better team in the second half.
Sure we had chances, but not many that were clear cut - certainly none like the glaring miss Ebbsfleet made in the very first minute.
I know that many of you dont want to hear criticism of Refs but this woman was comical and gave us nothing until it was time to try and balance a game of one sided decisions - her male assistant was actually worse. Forget PC - the one thing she did tonight was to reiterate that a womans place is not playing in a man's sport.
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I know that many of you dont want to hear criticism of Refs but this woman was comical and gave us nothing until it was time to try and balance a game of one sided decisions - her male assistant was actually worse. Forget PC - the one thing she did tonight was to reiterate that a womans place is not playing in a man's sport.
I thought Amy Raynor was poor, however I didn't think that she was any poorer than the usual standard of officiating in the Conference. I certainly didn't think her poor performance was anything to do with being a woman, why would it?
You've already said that her male assistant was worse than her, was this because he was a man?
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- the one thing she did tonight was to reiterate that a womans place is not playing in a man's sport.
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The mind boggles!
When I got over the embarrassment that a fellow supporter of my Club not only holds but publicly states such medieval views I relaxed just a touch and thought maybe I was being a bit judgemental.
So, this being a forum and therefore a place for discussion and debate can I ask Redhill Alty to enlighten us all on why, in his opinion, there is no place for a women in playing (although I assume he means refereeing) what he refers (incorrectly) to as a mans sport.
Thanks in anticipation
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I think there is place for women in football, be it playing football and officiating football matches.
That being in women's football.
Plus she looked God aweful last night in that shapeless top and her hair scraped back in to a "stretford facelift"
Very admirable of her,but she shouldn't be reffing senior male football matches,the football league clubs dont accept it,so why should the conference be devalued and used for these experiments .
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Women have no right being at a football match!!!!!!! :-[
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However good/bad last night's ref was, the man running the line at our end in the second half was an absolute disgrace!
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Roaring at the 'stretford facelift' Pete
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I think there is place for women in football, be it playing football and officiating football matches.
That being in women's football.
Plus she looked God aweful last night in that shapeless top and her hair scraped back in to a "stretford facelift"
Very admirable of her,but she shouldn't be reffing senior male football matches,the football league clubs dont accept it,so why should the conference be devalued and used for these experiments .
Completely agree.
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I was actually not trying to cause anything here other than debate.
The football league clubs seem to have no objection to the two female assistants on the national list (except that is for Mike Newell) one of whom will make the national referees list at some point, okay maybe not one of the current two but one will.
In all honesty Pete, why do you class it as 'experiment' or devaluing the Conference.
I can understand that some people don't agree with female officials as a matter of principle but am still honestly and genuinely interested in whether there is some sort of supporting evidence for this standpoint.
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Hughesey has answered this for me.
Mix sex football has an age restriction of under 11,s - this is not a "medevil" rule and the FA made it, not me. And its there for obvious reasons that should not be bent just to be pc or for tokenism. I certainly do not have any objection to Women's teams in Football or in any sport for that matter.
I have no problem with women being involved in some aspects of Football played by males, but not on the pitch. There are some women that have done/still do good jobs for the benefit of Alty and they are appreciated. Keith was looking for help with the snackbar. Or why not have a woman boss of the Alty Stewards?
Maybe me, Rocky and the Gazelle should join the Princesses Ballet dancing group.
On thinking of last night's match, one of the main problems that ref had was that in my opinion Ebbsfleet players took advantage, pushed their luck (and got away withit) and wasted an enourmous amount of time - way beyond the 4 mins she added on. In effect she did not have control of officiating so the game was a fair contest.
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I think there is place for women in football, be it playing football and officiating football matches.
That being in women's football.
Plus she looked God aweful last night in that shapeless top and her hair scraped back in to a "stretford facelift"
Very admirable of her,but she shouldn't be reffing senior male football matches,the football league clubs dont accept it,so why should the conference be devalued and used for these experiments .
This really.
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I was actually not trying to cause anything here other than debate.
The football league clubs seem to have no objection to the two female assistants on the national list (except that is for Mike Newell) one of whom will make the national referees list at some point, okay maybe not one of the current two but one will.
In all honesty Pete, why do you class it as 'experiment' or devaluing the Conference.
I can understand that some people don't agree with female officials as a matter of principle but am still honestly and genuinely interested in whether there is some sort of supporting evidence for this standpoint.
I felt she was put under pressure last night by the ebbsfleet players,and they were taking the piss out of her "Authority" on numerous occasions, like the number 6 who simply refused to move until he was ready to do so, when we had a free kick near the end, despite her telling him constantly to move.They knew they could push the boundries with her,and thats where my problem is. Ive seen evidence of players behaving differently on previous occasions aswell, one being a northwich v stevenage game I saw her officiate,where neither side had little or any respect for the wishes/demands of the ref.
Plus how many times a week is her poor husband supposed to have to shell out money on a takeaway?
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Mix sex football has an age restriction of under 11,s - this is not a "medevil" rule and the FA made it, not me. And its there for obvious reasons that should not be bent just to be pc or for tokenism. I certainly do not have any objection to Women's teams in Football or in any sport for that matter.
The rule concerning mixed football doesn't really have any relevance to the issue of refereeing. It's about physical strength and size, above a certain (very low) minimum these factors aren't really relevant for refereeing.
On thinking of last night's match, one of the main problems that ref had was that in my opinion Ebbsfleet players took advantage, pushed their luck (and got away withit) and wasted an enourmous amount of time - way beyond the 4 mins she added on. In effect she did not have control of officiating so the game was a fair contest.
I've seen plenty of (male) officials that don't have control of players, this is just because they're not very good at refereeing.
I'm not sure how we can go from the premise that Amy Raynor is not a very good referee (which I agree with) to the conclusion that Amy Raynor is not a very good referee because she's a woman.
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I have no problem with women being involved in some aspects of Football played by males, but not on the pitch. There are some women that have done/still do good jobs for the benefit of Alty and they are appreciated. Keith was looking for help with the snackbar. Or why not have a woman boss of the Alty Stewards?
Maybe me, Rocky and the Gazelle should join the Princesses Ballet dancing group.
FFS ::)
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Mix sex football has an age restriction of under 11,s - this is not a "medevil" rule and the FA made it, not me. And its there for obvious reasons that should not be bent just to be pc or for tokenism. I certainly do not have any objection to Women's teams in Football or in any sport for that matter.
The rule concerning mixed football doesn't really have any relevance to the issue of refereeing. It's about physical strength and size, above a certain (very low) minimum these factors aren't really relevant for refereeing.
On thinking of last night's match, one of the main problems that ref had was that in my opinion Ebbsfleet players took advantage, pushed their luck (and got away withit) and wasted an enourmous amount of time - way beyond the 4 mins she added on. In effect she did not have control of officiating so the game was a fair contest.
I've seen plenty of (male) officials that don't have control of players, this is just because they're not very good at refereeing.
I'm not sure how we can go from the premise that Amy Raynor is not a very good referee (which I agree with) to the conclusion that Amy Raynor is not a very good referee because she's a woman.
Absolutely right Mr Hill.
What I'm asking is if there are, in an individuals mind, valid reasons why women should not be involved in Mens Football in an official capacity and as yet I'm yet to see any reasoned and structured arguments which specifically identify a valid reason.
The reason for this is not actually the Referee supporting of which i am normally accused although I will of course plead guilty to this if charged, nor the support of womens football (another guilty plea in all honesty but not my prime driver in this). Actually I've got involved in Referee development and interested in recruitment and particularly retention so any sensible and structured criticism or rationale behind the comments/observations of the average footy fan might well be useful in trying to suss out why so many Referees are being lost to the game and how this trend can be arrested and the prejudices of players managers and supporters against officials, male or female, can be reversed.
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She was a spineless little whore to be fair. ;D
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I think it might help matters if the conference could at least provide her with some of their better quality linesman though. The one on the main stand side was worse than useless, he was so, so bad. I felt sorry for her at one point.
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I think it might help matters if the conference could at least provide her with some of their better quality linesman though. The one on the main stand side was worse than useless, he was so, so bad. I felt sorry for her at one point.
He was right wee sh*tehawk.
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What I'm asking is if there are, in an individuals mind, valid reasons why women should not be involved in Mens Football in an official capacity
They're distracting for the players. ;)
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What I'm asking is if there are, in an individuals mind, valid reasons why women should not be involved in Mens Football in an official capacity
They're distracting for the players. ;)
So much for sensible and structured criticism and/or rationale :'( :'( :'(
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It was a joke mate.
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Women referees seem to spend most of the games I have seen them in trying to prove they are not scared and will not be bullied. They do this by dishing out lectures and cards at every opportunity and trying too hard.
There are some things women should not due, or even want to do. Referrring is one of them.
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So if some of these supporters had their way. Amy Rayner wouldn't ref men's games. ATS and myself couldn't ref women's games because we are male, or we couldn't ref youth games because we are not youths. We would have less stewards at the ground, less supporters( meaning less money for the club). Do some supporters don't want Daisy to watch Alty because she is a woman? That attitude sucks.
There are some good female refs refing in local football. We have a couple of good female stewards who more likely to diffuse an aggressive situation, because most normal blokes don't hit women. If there were no women at the football match. I wouldn't turn up.
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Women referees seem to spend most of the games I have seen them in trying to prove they are not scared and will not be bullied. They do this by dishing out lectures and cards at every opportunity and trying too hard.
There are some things women should not due, or even want to do. Referrring is one of them.
Don't some male refs do that?
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On the first day of ref training do you have to cut yourself and swear that you will never ever ever ever ever criticise another ref?
Obviously women on the terraces are fine and in many other roles at clubs.
OOOOOOoooooooo you can't say that.
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Women referees seem to spend most of the games I have seen them in trying to prove they are not scared and will not be bullied. They do this by dishing out lectures and cards at every opportunity and trying too hard.
There are some things women should not due, or even want to do. Referrring is one of them.
Sorry Ecky you've let yourself down this this post.
Have any of you considered that the ref being put under pressure at Ebbsfleet as reported earlier in the debate was at least 50% the fault of the Ebbsfleet players lack of discipline rather than being 100% down to Amy's weakness?
I find it amusing that both on here and also on the official site folk go on about the officials being pressured by our opposition
Here's a quote from a previous thread
the pressurising of the officials today was done by Jim Harvey, he completely undermined the 4th officials authority by refusing to stay in his technical area. He should have been sent to the stands. The player feigning injury so that Lawless (?) could change his boots as well as the pathetic play acting summarised some of the negative aspects of fgrs performance today. i don't htink they need to do that.
I don't agree at all with harassment of officials but I do think it's a bit rich, if not demonstrative of naivete, that we keep bringing it up as an excuse.
There are undoubtedly ways of 'influencing' officials of whatever gender.
Two points occur here.
1) Why are we not as good at 'managing' officials as everybody else is (according to correspondents both here and on the main site)?
2) Was Ms Rayner actually any more influenced by the opposition than a number of other officials (allegedly) that we've had this season?
I have HONESTLY been trying to get honest views to help to improve officials and the game but sadly, with very few exceptions, Official baiting is far to popular a sport and when it is also profoundly misogynist it is even more so
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Sorry to duck out of this but I've got some teeth to pull.
Its my view that on the three occasions I have seen Amy Rayner she has tried to show a "I may be a girl but i still have cards you know and I am not scared of you Mr angry centre half, WATCH THIS..HA"
I too get embarassed at times when we blame refs for stuff that is nothing to do with them to hide our own shortcomings.
I haven't let anyone down, I have expressed what I see.
Your referee solidarity is commendable but surely a little one sided.
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If I wanted to pay £13 to watch some rough,flat chested piece, run around a bit, I could go to totties,its nearer than northfleet.
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On the first day of ref training do you have to cut yourself and swear that you will never ever ever ever ever criticise another ref?
:D :D :D :D goodwin for you sir ...
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It was a joke mate.
So was my comment - hence the weeping faces
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On the first day of ref training do you have to cut yourself and swear that you will never ever ever ever ever criticise another ref?
If that was true. I wouldn't be able to ref. Sometimes I have been the world's worst at criticising refs. I have been before a disciplinary for criticising a ref's performance in the local paper, during my time as secretary of Chester City Ladies.