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Title: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: James Black on October 26, 2008, 08:55:32 PM
just wondered if anyone knew when the Television games are decided unlike last year i think we've got to be in contention this time round luton cash strapped our history in this competition it has cup upset written all over it.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Sarf London Alty on October 26, 2008, 08:59:30 PM
It won't be finalised til after all the replays are done in midweek. I'd suggest that AFC Wimbledon vs Wycombe is absolutely nailed on to be the main Sunday afternoon game though.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: ChrisVessey CUFC on October 26, 2008, 09:00:28 PM
just wondered if anyone knew when the Television games are decided unlike last year i think we've got to be in contention this time round luton cash strapped our history in this competition it has cup upset written all over it.

Your game hasn't a chance of being on, trust me. It will most likely be the AFCW and Havant ties for a start.

Setanta will be screening two first round ties, to be played on Friday 7th November and Monday 10th November. ITV's solitary first round game will be on the more sensible day of Sunday 9th.

Setanta will be waiting until they decide who they are televising in the FA Cup before announcing their next batch of BSP games, expected to be announced in a couple of days.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: James Black on October 26, 2008, 09:06:42 PM
just wondered if anyone knew when the Television games are decided unlike last year i think we've got to be in contention this time round luton cash strapped our history in this competition it has cup upset written all over it.

Your game hasn't a chance of being on, trust me. It will most likely be the AFCW and Havant ties for a start.

Setanta will be screening two first round ties, to be played on Friday 7th November and Monday 10th November. ITV's solitary first round game will be on the more sensible day of Sunday 9th.

Setanta will be waiting until they decide who they are televising in the FA Cup before announcing their next batch of BSP games, expected to be announced in a couple of days.

well they'll miss a cup upset then
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: gazwarrington on October 26, 2008, 10:00:19 PM
I think its got a chance as some exposure for Luton. They were on Football focus yesterday so media attention is high.

Altho the the big banner of "You can stick your 30 points up your FA" wouldn't go down well ... he he

Least both sets of fans hate the FA :)
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: markecky on October 26, 2008, 10:11:04 PM
Chris Vessey has said we don't have a chance of being on so we should stop this conversation right now.  Or ask him first.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: OldhamAlty on October 26, 2008, 10:15:51 PM
Damm well better not be a weekday night. I'm looking forward to this!
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: ChrisVessey CUFC on October 26, 2008, 10:18:06 PM
Chris Vessey has said we don't have a chance of being on so we should stop this conversation right now.  Or ask him first.

Awww diddums. Ok then, we'll see, won't we!
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: crossie on October 26, 2008, 10:21:11 PM
BBC will probably show all goals and match highlights on MOTD. They did last year and as im sure you are all aware our game was the feature lenght highlights game after the premiership games.
But you know what these tv compainies are like they wont give a toss about a team from up north, they will no dout chose the southen non league sides like AFCW and Havant.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: ChrisVessey CUFC on October 26, 2008, 10:29:49 PM
It's nothing to do with Southern bias, yet more Altrincham paranoia.. they're simply the most attractive ties to put on tele.

AFC Wimbledon have risen from the ashes of having their club killed and made it to the first round for the first time ever, and drawn league opposition, it's a 'fairytale'. H&W became a household name last season, renowned for their cup run and defeating league opposition - they have that chance again, so they could be picked for tv.

Luton v Altrincham won't capture the imagination of your average armchair bum, it's just a team who have had points deducted in a home banker against an average part-time non league team. That's looking at it realistically, nothing to do with agenda's, vendetta's or Southern bias etc etc..
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Steve from Sale on October 26, 2008, 11:01:01 PM
Hmm, I'm not so sure of this one Chris.

We have a history in the FA cup of beating 16 or is it 17 teams from the league, even though not so much recently. Alty have always been good FA cup battlers while Luton struggle with their points deduction at the bottom of the table. The situation of the two clubs could be very attractive to TV companies, who like nothing more than a giant killing. Even though it is by no means a David V Goliath situation it is still an interesting one given Altys history and Lutons current situation.

Whether or not the TV companies go for it remains to be seen, but I certainly think they will give it the consideration it deserves.

We shall see

Steve from Sale
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: RocketDan on October 26, 2008, 11:06:23 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/football_focus/7690785.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/football_focus/7690785.stm)

i'm out.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: James Black on October 26, 2008, 11:09:02 PM
It's nothing to do with Southern bias, yet more Altrincham paranoia.. they're simply the most attractive ties to put on tele.

AFC Wimbledon have risen from the ashes of having their club killed and made it to the first round for the first time ever, and drawn league opposition, it's a 'fairytale'. H&W became a household name last season, renowned for their cup run and defeating league opposition - they have that chance again, so they could be picked for tv.

Luton v Altrincham won't capture the imagination of your average armchair bum, it's just a team who have had points deducted in a home banker against an average part-time non league team. That's looking at it realistically, nothing to do with agenda's, vendetta's or Southern bias etc etc..
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Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: RocketDan on October 26, 2008, 11:11:26 PM
Giant Killer Games
AFC Wimbledon v Wycombe Wanderers

AFC Hornchurch v Peterborough United

Leicester City v Stevenage/Horsham

Big Tie
Leeds United v Northampton Town

potential derby
Chesterfield v York City/Mansfield Town
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: decman7 on October 27, 2008, 12:14:12 AM
dont think there will be any games  on MOTD dont think BBC have the fa cup
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: James Black on October 27, 2008, 12:52:21 AM
dont think there will be any games  on MOTD dont think BBC have the fa cup

No they don't its Setanta and ITV not BBC and Sky this year
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: fuertes on October 27, 2008, 09:36:25 AM
I don't think we'll make it to TV, and this year that's probably fair enough. I think it's reasonable to have AFC Wimbledon on, and there are a few others of equal or greater interest than ours. I'm still annoyed about last year though, Alty (proudest giant killing record in non-league) vs Millwall (recent FA Cup Finalists) overlooked in favour of a rubbish southern tin-pot derby.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 27, 2008, 09:41:18 AM
We've got a fair shot at getting something out of this one - in other words the draw could have been much more unkind to us.

Having said that, I know it's mostly my imagination, but I'd really fancy us a lot less if we were on the box (!) so for me it's good news that we probably won't be.

Save that for Old Trafford in the Third Round  ;)
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Ballers on October 27, 2008, 09:48:20 AM
I doubt very much we'll be on tv.

For some reason, sky and setanta always seem keen to show some toss league teams playing each other that they could do at jsut about any point in the season.

AFC Wimbledon is nailed on, going to be a guardian/media wankfest over this for weeks, by the end of it any support or sympathy you had for them will be well and truly disappated.

Judging from yesterdays coverage, Havant & Waterlooville appear to have made history last year by being the first non league team ever to take the lead away at top flight opposition so I'd say there's is going to be on as well.

I think ours would have potential if we were at home, less so away and it will probably slip under the radar.

Tv will probably also look for one very big chance of an upset (Kettering v Lincoln) and one game where they go to a little hole of a ground
 
Blyth S v Shrewsbury T. - distinct possibility (geordies and famous  old name, good cup run in 70s)
Sutton U. v Notts Co. - excuse to bang on about the Coventry game again and again, also possible shock
AFC Hornchurch v Peterborough United  
Northwich Victoria/AFC Telford United v Southend United
Hinckley United/Curzon Ashton v Exeter City
Durham City/Histon v Swindon Town  
Harlow Town v Macclesfield Town
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: MadFrankie on October 27, 2008, 10:33:05 AM
I think ours would have potential if we were at home, less so away and it will probably slip under the radar.

Agreed - we've got little chance of being featured. Have tv ever showed a league team v non-league team FA Cup game - probably not?
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Hale Alty on October 27, 2008, 10:46:19 AM
I thought the FA had put a stop to Friday and Monday cup games and now they all have to be on the Saturday or Sunday.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: BENNY20TENNIS on October 27, 2008, 03:10:24 PM
not Alty as predicted

Leeds

Havant

Wimbledon

Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: ChrisVessey CUFC on October 27, 2008, 03:11:10 PM
Mark Ecky can shut up now, as i predicted....

Friday 7 November 2008
7.45pm on Setanta Sports 1
Leeds United v Northampton Town

Sunday 9 November 2008
1.45pm (approx) on ITV1 and Setanta Sports 1
The FA Cup sponsored by E.ON Second Round Proper Draw

2.00pm on ITV1
Havant & Waterlooville v Brentford

Monday 10 November 2008
7.45pm on Setanta Sports 1
AFC Wimbledon v Wycombe Wanderers - Setanta Sports 1

 ::)
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Alex on October 27, 2008, 03:26:25 PM
Good now more people will travel to the game instead of watching it on the box
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: markecky on October 27, 2008, 03:34:20 PM
Thanks very much for keeping us up to speed.  Your knowledge of these matters is second to none, you really are a non league oracle.

And your team got a live game as well.  Double bonus.

For the record, I'll decide when I shut up.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: brian1925 on October 27, 2008, 05:21:03 PM
The utter irony (and it is irony given our away record over the past few years) is that we probably have as good a chance of causing an upset as any of the other non leaguers playing league sides. Havant is a good call to be honest, though I think both us and Kettering are decent bets.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: AltySi on October 27, 2008, 05:23:23 PM
I can't see any chance that our game will be shown live, or even get extended highlights as there are 10 ties where a non-league side is at home to a football league side, and these always seem to get the nod.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Ballers on October 27, 2008, 05:42:26 PM
The utter irony (and it is irony given our away record over the past few years) is that we probably have as good a chance of causing an upset as any of the other non leaguers playing league sides. Havant is a good call to be honest, though I think both us and Kettering are decent bets.

Havant will not beat Brentford.

Our chances are slim, a replay could be possible though.

I reallly think Kettering are going to do Lincoln (and it might get a bit tasty outside).
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: ChrisVessey CUFC on October 27, 2008, 06:53:55 PM

For the record, I'll decide when I shut up.


Please do, it's rather amusing reading you making a prat of yourself..... yet again.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: david sneddon on October 27, 2008, 07:13:53 PM

For the record, I'll decide when I shut up.


Please do, it's rather amusing reading you making a prat of yourself..... yet again.

Yeah, He could even make up a news article and put it on his own website saying a local village pub outfit thats overshadowing his own failing football club was about to go out of business,even though it was a complete untruth,then he'd look a right prat.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: ChrisVessey CUFC on October 27, 2008, 07:48:30 PM
Haha, almost correct, except the article wasn't made up  ;D
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: markecky on October 27, 2008, 07:49:06 PM

For the record, I'll decide when I shut up.


Please do, it's rather amusing reading you making a prat of yourself..... yet again.

Marching on together.....

Prat?..think you have read a few to many famous five books and got a bit brave.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: blackpoolalty on October 27, 2008, 09:38:59 PM

For the record, I'll decide when I shut up.


Please do, it's rather amusing reading you making a prat of yourself..... yet again.

Marching on together.....

Prat?..think you have read a few to many famous five books and got a bit brave.


To the tune of the classice Elton John song....

Can you feel the love tonight....
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: VofD on November 08, 2008, 06:25:46 PM
It's nothing to do with Southern bias, yet more Altrincham paranoia.. they're simply the most attractive ties to put on tele.

AFC Wimbledon have risen from the ashes of having their club killed and made it to the first round for the first time ever, and drawn league opposition, it's a 'fairytale'. H&W became a household name last season, renowned for their cup run and defeating league opposition - they have that chance again, so they could be picked for tv.

Luton v Altrincham won't capture the imagination of your average armchair bum, it's just a team who have had points deducted in a home banker against an average part-time non league team. That's looking at it realistically, nothing to do with agenda's, vendetta's or Southern bias etc etc..

Vessey right as usual ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Jenga on November 08, 2008, 10:10:14 PM
Home banker was it??? MY ARSE !!!
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Jimbo Alty FC on November 08, 2008, 10:14:13 PM
will any of the Replays be on the telly
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: blackpoolalty on November 08, 2008, 10:14:26 PM
It's nothing to do with Southern bias, yet more Altrincham paranoia.. they're simply the most attractive ties to put on tele.

AFC Wimbledon have risen from the ashes of having their club killed and made it to the first round for the first time ever, and drawn league opposition, it's a 'fairytale'. H&W became a household name last season, renowned for their cup run and defeating league opposition - they have that chance again, so they could be picked for tv.

Luton v Altrincham won't capture the imagination of your average armchair bum, it's just a team who have had points deducted in a home banker against an average part-time non league team. That's looking at it realistically, nothing to do with agenda's, vendetta's or Southern bias etc etc..

Vessey right as usual ;D ;D ;D ;D

I would rather support an average part time non league team, unlike you who supports an average full time NON LEAGUE team !
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Cornerflag on November 08, 2008, 10:18:31 PM
will any of the Replays be on the telly


I think the Leeds v Northampton replay will be screened on Thursday 20th


 :(
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: markecky on November 08, 2008, 10:22:13 PM
They were on live in the first game..very unlikely they will be on again I would have thought
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: brian1925 on November 08, 2008, 11:39:55 PM
It'll be us or Grays. To be honest, both ties look good.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Jenga on November 09, 2008, 12:18:14 AM
Stockport, droylsden

Lots to chose from to be honest.

Personally I dont think we will get on.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Dougals Dad on November 09, 2008, 10:23:50 PM
Home banker was it??? MY ARSE !!!

I thought Vessey might be a home banker!
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Saughall Robin on November 10, 2008, 02:06:32 PM
I think you mean Barclays-banker  ;)
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: MadFrankie on November 10, 2008, 03:02:51 PM
It's reported on conf forum that Setanta have chosen the Tranmere-Accrington replay. That'll really pull in crowds of armchair viewers.
If it was on in my back garden I'd close the curtains etc...
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Leon on November 10, 2008, 03:20:58 PM
An absolutely ludicrous and baffling choice. But we still have hope:

http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFACup/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/FirstRoundreplay_tvties.htm
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Ballers on November 10, 2008, 04:47:03 PM
In fairness to Setanta, that wasn't actually their first choice.  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Mallorca Alty on November 10, 2008, 11:42:56 PM
It's reported on conf forum that Setanta have chosen the Tranmere-Accrington replay. That'll really pull in crowds of armchair viewers.
If it was on in my back garden I'd close the curtains etc...

Hopefully Ryan Shotton will score against them if Stoke let him play. Better still Accrington win then get kicked out for playing ineligible player.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: fuertes on November 11, 2008, 08:46:29 AM
I wasn't complaining about the original choices; Leeds are the biggest club outside the Prem, people are interested in Havant after last year's exploits, and the AFC Wimbledon phoenix from the flames first ever appearance blah blah is fair enough.

However, I CANNOT fathom why they have chosen Tranmere vs Accrington. I bet only 4,500 turn up and it looks ridiculous on telly, empty seats everywhere and two teams that aren't particularly excited to be in FACR1.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: Leon on November 11, 2008, 10:38:19 AM
The Luton game will not be on the telly then:

http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFACup/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/FirstRoundreplay_tvties_2.htm

Two replays, not a single non-league side featured.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: fuertes on November 11, 2008, 10:50:02 AM
Northampton vs Leeds on twice...that is an absolute joke. There should be a rule against that.

1. The FA Cup First Round is all about non-leaguers hoping to cause an upset.
2. Why should these teams get the money for being on telly twice when plenty of other clubs get nowt!?

DISGRACEFUL.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: MadFrankie on November 11, 2008, 10:53:53 AM
The Luton game will not be on the telly then:

http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFACup/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/FirstRoundreplay_tvties_2.htm

Two replays, not a single non-league side featured.

That's a pretty uninspiring choice of games. Obviously viewing figures are Setanta's main criteria, hence choosing Dirty Leeds, but I can't see many neutrals being interested in either of those games.
You'll have to make sure that Rocky gets his love bus serviced this weekend ready for the trip north next Tuesday.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: crossie on November 11, 2008, 12:18:07 PM
Im not saying our game should have been first choice to be on the TV, but Leeds v Northampton on twice is a complete joke. I watched part of the game on friday night, all i can say is it was not the best game iv ever seen, and the majority of the ground was half empty, with know atmosphere! What makes the situation worse is both clubs will have recieved cash for the tie being on tv! There are other clubs who have 1st round replays who need the cash more then they do!
I have to agree with a previous comment on the subject that the 1st round is all about the non-league sides trying to cause an up set! A few years ago we had Chase Town on the box agaist a league club, and so to were Harrogate Town.
Title: Re: when do ITV choose their games
Post by: MadFrankie on November 11, 2008, 12:27:40 PM
Im not saying our game should have been first choice to be on the TV, but Leeds v Northampton on twice is a complete joke. I watched part of the game on friday night, all i can say is it was not the best game iv ever seen, and the majority of the ground was half empty, with know atmosphere! What makes the situation worse is both clubs will have recieved cash for the tie being on tv! There are other clubs who have 1st round replays who need the cash more then they do!
I have to agree with a previous comment on the subject that the 1st round is all about the non-league sides trying to cause an up set! A few years ago we had Chase Town on the box agaist a league club, and so to were Harrogate Town.


Chasetown and Harrogate were on the BBC, where chasing ratings isn't the over-riding factor. Now that Setanta are involved, and ratings are all that matters, then I suspect we'll see every Leeds game in the 1st or 2nd round televised live.