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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Silkyman on December 03, 2006, 03:56:57 PM
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Who did you get today?
Oh..
Hang on....
;D
(Yes.. I know we're likely to go down, but the 750,000 we're going to make from the FA Cup this year might just help us go up at the first attempt)
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well done for getting chelski how are both of your travelling fans getting to London then?/
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How many league wins do you have this season.............
Oh sorry...
Rather have the 3 points any day of the week thanks!
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Yes, yes I'm sure you would.
Three points is worth more than £3/4m
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£3/4 million........it was £750,000 a a few posts ago you do have trouble counting out there don't you.
Do you need a calculator, or do you want to carry on painting the figures onto the wall of your cave?
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might be a printing error but the paper says your attendance yesterday was 1992??
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Thing is Chelsea struggle to sell tickets for early round cup games, they even advertise on London radio stations. I'd guess no more than 20,000 there, so Macc to take about £225,000 at most. Not to be sniffed at I agree but not exactly 750k is it?
IMO a good use of the 100th post, baiting a Macc fan!!
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£3/4 million........it was £750,000 a a few posts ago you do have trouble counting out there don't you.
Do you need a calculator, or do you want to carry on painting the figures onto the wall of your cave?
Are you a moron?
Three quarters of a million. ::)
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Thing is Chelsea struggle to sell tickets for early round cup games, they even advertise on London radio stations. I'd guess no more than 20,000 there, so Macc to take about £225,000 at most. Not to be sniffed at I agree but not exactly 750k is it?
IMO a good use of the 100th post, baiting a Macc fan!!
We've already made 75k from being on TV against Walsall, 40k worth of prize money plus money from the Walsall away game and the Hartlepool game. Not much but it adds up.
We're probably on more than 150k already.
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£3/4 million........it was £750,000 a a few posts ago you do have trouble counting out there don't you.
Do you need a calculator, or do you want to carry on painting the figures onto the wall of your cave?
Are you a moron?
Three quarters of a million. ::)
That said to me between 3 & 4m.
Must be beacuse I am used to dealing in millions of pounds and no trading in sheep like you backwards people!
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baaaaa
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Who did you get today?
Oh..
Hang on....
;D
(Yes.. I know we're likely to go down, but the 750,000 we're going to make from the FA Cup this year might just help us go up at the first attempt)
Maybe you can use some of it to pay back all those people who donated to your cause when you were falsely pleading poverty last season?
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Who did you get today?
Oh..
Hang on....
;D
(Yes.. I know we're likely to go down, but the 750,000 we're going to make from the FA Cup this year might just help us go up at the first attempt)
Maybe you can use some of it to pay back all those people who donated to your cause when you were falsely pleading poverty last season?
Don't be silly it'll go on sheep dip.
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Do you know if you'll be cancelling the coach due to lack of numbers again, like at Hereford?
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Macc contingent on way to FA Cup tie spotted;
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£3/4 million........it was £750,000 a a few posts ago you do have trouble counting out there don't you.
Do you need a calculator, or do you want to carry on painting the figures onto the wall of your cave?
Are you a moron?
Three quarters of a million. ::)
That said to me between 3 & 4m.
Must be beacuse I am used to dealing in millions of pounds and no trading in sheep like you backwards people!
Or perhaps you were too busy renting yourself out on the day they did fractions at your school.
But well done on trying to get away with your own stupidity with a sheep comment.
Tou-flipping-che. :D
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Did you skip my question on purpose?
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and mine. >:(
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Chelsea ;D
I believe Alty are playing Rushden on the same day, I’m envious :D
Keep going boys, just remember the good old days of the past (for a change)
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You're right. Its not as if we have ever played a premier league team away.
Not to sure whats funny about playing Rushden away. You'll be doing it next year.
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1992 ;D
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Good Luck and see you next season!!
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£3/4 million........it was £750,000 a a few posts ago you do have trouble counting out there don't you.
Do you need a calculator, or do you want to carry on painting the figures onto the wall of your cave?
Are you a moron?
Three quarters of a million. ::)
That said to me between 3 & 4m.
Must be beacuse I am used to dealing in millions of pounds and no trading in sheep like you backwards people!
Or perhaps you were too busy renting yourself out on the day they did fractions at your school.
But well done on trying to get away with your own stupidity with a sheep comment.
Tou-flipping-che. :D
Why are you interested in my services? I offer very competitive rates!
If I thought I was wrong I would have said as much - I am big enough to admit that.
Enjoy your cup run, I really hope you beat Chelski - that should help keep the players focused on the league!!
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Well where do I start.
We have played a top flight team away AND WON.
We will be debt free in January, all that cup money and you STILL will be struggling with finances, if your club see any of that money ;)
You have had to cancel a coach this season .. HA HA HA HA
You can't even televise a match without incident.. TIN POT
and to cap it off Paul Ince is determined to kill morale by playing himself v Chelsea, come on Paul you've had the limelight now let another player have it.
oh yes .. You have had to cancel a coach this season .. sorry if I've mentioned that but very funny.
Bet Chelsea would prefer to play Rushden, at least they are a 'proper' club.
ALTRINCHAM FC - HATING MACC SINCE 1903
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I believe the Milkmen will be putting on free coaches for the game and the tickets are about £8 a pop, Theres gonna be a lot of lonely sheep on the hills that day... I may go for £8 and sing 4 Chelsea :D
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I remember that in the Spurs game 1995, the Spurs fans starting singing "Macclesfield, Macclesfield, Macclesfield."
Any chance of Chelsea fans singing "Altrincham, Altrincham, Altrincham?"
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1,400 against Rochdale with about 300(ish) Rochdale .. WELL DONE
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might be a printing error but the paper says your attendance yesterday was 1992??
Yes it was.
1992 people watching two football League sides.
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Do you know if you'll be cancelling the coach due to lack of numbers again, like at Hereford?
We may well cancel one or two. But the club are putting them on for free. If more than 50 people make their own way down, they'll probably cancel the coach.
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Well where do I start.
1 We have played a top flight team away AND WON.
2 We will be debt free in January, all that cup money and you STILL will be struggling with finances, if your club see any of that money ;)
3 You have had to cancel a coach this season .. HA HA HA HA
4 You can't even televise a match without incident.. TIN POT
5 and to cap it off Paul Ince is determined to kill morale by playing himself v Chelsea, come on Paul you've had the limelight now let another player have it.
6 oh yes .. You have had to cancel a coach this season .. sorry if I've mentioned that but very funny.
Bet Chelsea would prefer to play Rushden, at least they are a 'proper' club.
7 ALTRINCHAM FC - HATING MACC SINCE 1903
I've numbered your points for easy reference. I'm nice like that.
1 Well done. We've played in the Football League for 10 years.
2 You know fuk all about us it seems. What debts are these of which you speak? You are clearly a man of very little brain.
3 So what. People in Macclesfield own their own CARS unlike you inner city scrubbers.
4 How did your last televised match go? You can't even secure your premises from travelers over the summer.
5 Paul Ince was ALWAYS going to play for us. He will play against Lincoln on new years day and wojld have done so had we been knocked out by Wrexham. See Answer 2.
6 Shame you can't afford your own transport.
7 you sad obsessed man.
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1,400 against Rochdale with about 300(ish) Rochdale .. WELL DONE
1,400 more people watching a Football League game than you will EVER have. EVER.
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1992 for an FA cup 2nd round game :D
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1992 for an FA cup 2nd round game :D
You see.. When you get to play teams like Hartlepool, you get all excited and it's a big deal.
'Oooh..' you say. 'Look at this.. a REAL football club coming to our little town'. And the whole town comes out with red and white jester hats and tinfoil FA Cups for the novelty value alone.
We, on the other hand, have the dubious honour of playing the likes of Hartlepool every week. Indeed that was the 14th time we've played them in the last 10 years, and the second time we've played them this season.
We've all got glory hunters who come out for the big games.
To your lot, Hartlepool would be a big game. To us, it really, really wasn't.
Also interesting that you are laughing at an attendance of ours which is about 600 more than the best you've managed all season.
Heh. You only managed 880 against Woking.
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Moving on from all this boring talk about bragging rights , do you lot think you will still be there if we do come down ? I see you're getting very close to the bottom 4 now. Most of the other relegation contenders are either full-time or are strengthening ther squads , or both.
I know you are proud about the way you have built up your team without financial worries but you will need to invest in the squad, surely , if you are to stay up ? Will you use the Craney money or is it earmarked for debts?
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Mind your own business you nosey sheep sha**er!!
We'll continue to fight as we have done with passion and no money and we certainly don't want any far eastern money soiling our clean reputation thank you very much.
And don't come on here telling us every one else is full time....I think we know that ta.
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1992 for an FA cup 2nd round game :D :D
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1992, the last time you Mancs were considered to be a good non- league team.
or were you relegated that season (again) ;D
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Well where do I start.
1 We have played a top flight team away AND WON.
2 We will be debt free in January, all that cup money and you STILL will be struggling with finances, if your club see any of that money ;)
3 You have had to cancel a coach this season .. HA HA HA HA
4 You can't even televise a match without incident.. TIN POT
5 and to cap it off Paul Ince is determined to kill morale by playing himself v Chelsea, come on Paul you've had the limelight now let another player have it.
6 oh yes .. You have had to cancel a coach this season .. sorry if I've mentioned that but very funny.
Bet Chelsea would prefer to play Rushden, at least they are a 'proper' club.
7 ALTRINCHAM FC - HATING MACC SINCE 1903
I've numbered your points for easy reference. I'm nice like that.
1 Well done. We've played in the Football League for 10 years.
2 You know fuk all about us it seems. What debts are these of which you speak? You are clearly a man of very little brain.
3 So what. People in Macclesfield own their own CARS unlike you inner city scrubbers.
4 How did your last televised match go? You can't even secure your premises from travelers over the summer.
5 Paul Ince was ALWAYS going to play for us. He will play against Lincoln on new years day and wojld have done so had we been knocked out by Wrexham. See Answer 2.
6 Shame you can't afford your own transport.
7 you sad obsessed man.
Im going to have to step in here, and explain that by coming onto another teams board and acting like a gimp, whilst attempting to make anyone beleive that you would have half as many fans left if you werent in the football league makes you the 'sad obsessed man'. Say goodbye to the 'dizzy heights' and welcome to reality. By far the worst efforts from any team in your league in a long time. I'd feel sorry for your fans, but then i hate them. So I dont
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;D :D
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Im going to have to step in here, and explain that by coming onto another teams board and acting like a gimp, whilst attempting to make anyone beleive that you would have half as many fans left if you werent in the football league makes you the 'sad obsessed man'. Say goodbye to the 'dizzy heights' and welcome to reality. By far the worst efforts from any team in your league in a long time. I'd feel sorry for your fans, but then i hate them. So I dont
I used to post on the previous incarnation of this board quite regularly.. But I rediscovered it when someone linked to a since deleted thread taking the piss out of our badly injured players.
So only yourselves to thank for me being back!
By far the worst efforts of any team in our division? Nope.
Carlisle had only five points from one more game than us a few years back. They went down by five points. On that ratio, we're on target to survive. But we might send Rochdale down for you to play with.
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We'll continue to fight as we have done with passion and no money and we certainly don't want any far eastern money soiling our clean reputation thank you very much.
Yes. I can see why you wouldn't want succesful, British businessmen investing in your club.
Every football fan's worst nightmare, surely.
But why would far eastern money 'soil' your reputation anyway?
Not that there is any link whatsoever between our owners and the far east.. The closest they come to the Orient is when we played at Brisbane Road last season.
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:D
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Good answer.
::)
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macclesfield :D :D
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clink clink. hopefully thats the Milkman going away from this board.
Look I know you're a nonleague club in the league but lets wait til May before seeing you. One thin
Simple fact is that Macc conned a lot of people out of money (not the fans fault) when your Iraqi could have paid it and thats just simply a disgrace
yes you play Hartlepool, wonder how many you took there then ? did You go ?
As fans you are terrible. You struggle to take 100 to places. WOW what a league side you are. Loyal Supporters ?
we took more to Workington for a pointless game on a Tuesday night .... Should try using these so called CARS that you have ?
48 to Grimsby and 46 to Lincoln
Average of around 140 away .. AMAZING LEAGUE CLUB
I suppose when Paul Ince took over your fans were excited cos we all know that majority are Man U & Macc Fan.
Thanks for visiting - see you next season.
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What , in Conference North ?
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No. (sorry to piss on your chips) no league game is pointless (yes even AWAY ones count ) ..
in some mid week cup that makes the CSC look like the European Cup.
;)
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Moving on from all this boring talk about bragging rights , do you lot think you will still be there if we do come down ? I see you're getting very close to the bottom 4 now. Most of the other relegation contenders are either full-time or are strengthening ther squads , or both.
I know you are proud about the way you have built up your team without financial worries but you will need to invest in the squad, surely , if you are to stay up ? Will you use the Craney money or is it earmarked for debts?
As you've asked a sensible question, i'll give you a sensible answer...
We're all right thus far, the only sort of worrying thing is that some teams that I had down as being sh*t (Tamworth, ST Albans) have started picking up points. We are betterthan our rivals so to speak, beaten Tam, St ALbs and Southport at home, crucial games. The main problems is that Colin Littlles season has been disrupted by a disgusting assault by Adam Quinn of Halifax, if he'd been fit I'm pretty certain we'd be midtabl by now.
Not entirely sure the players are there for us to get, they either go/stay full time or pick up double the wage for an easy life in the Conf North (Droylsden, Lancaster or worse Fleetwood!). Nobody expects to see much money from Craney. Accy are a bunch of C**ts, headed by a horrible man called Eric Whalley and they'll try anything to stitch us up. If we did receive £50k+ it would prob be kept as safety. We're on course to wipe out the debt at the end of the season, barring council red tape and delays. Hope this was the sensible, constructive answer you were looking for.
Sheepshagging T**t.
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clink clink. hopefully thats the Milkman going away from this board.
Look I know you're a nonleague club in the league but lets wait til May before seeing you. One thin
Simple fact is that Macc conned a lot of people out of money (not the fans fault) when your Iraqi could have paid it and thats just simply a disgrace
yes you play Hartlepool, wonder how many you took there then ? did You go ?
As fans you are terrible. You struggle to take 100 to places. WOW what a league side you are. Loyal Supporters ?
we took more to Workington for a pointless game on a Tuesday night .... Should try using these so called CARS that you have ?
48 to Grimsby and 46 to Lincoln
Average of around 140 away .. AMAZING LEAGUE CLUB
I suppose when Paul Ince took over your fans were excited cos we all know that majority are Man U & Macc Fan.
Thanks for visiting - see you next season.
First off. We’ve not played Hartlepool away yet. And yes, when we do. I will go. I’ve not missed a game in Hartlepool yet and we’ve only lost there once so I look forward to the visit.
You are reminding me of Stockport fans. No argument other than ‘fanbase.’
Well done on taking a good following to Workington on a Tuesday night. But we’re well aware of our limitations when it comes to supporters. When it gets to four or five months since the last win, it can tend to drag. I go, but a lot don’t. Some people have drifted away from home games. Fair enough. You’ve got us on that. Enjoy the hollow victory that gives you. Our FA Cup attendance was still 600 higher than your highest gate of the season. Not that it matters. We've got the lowest away fanbase in the League, but we've also got the lowest home attendance. Our away support as a percentage of home support is better than average at this level.
If we really want to push things, you've picked two evening away games to highlight and two of the worst journeys of the season as well.
We're yet to play Rochdale, Bury or Chester away which will raise the average come the final reckoning.
But I will argue against you for hours on whether we ‘conned’ fans. We conned no one. Everyone had all the facts and our owners themselves paid the portions of the fine the club admitted and accepted.
They said that they were reluctant to shell out quarter of a million pounds from their own pockets (how rich do you think they are anyway?) for something that we still don’t think we did wrong and which was done by a long since departed chairman.
Most of the money raised, was raised by Macc fans and the majority of donations were raised through the Supporters Trust. The Trust itself is now one of the top ten shareholders in the club. The support from other fans was very much appreciated but it was as much the support shown by the donations as the donations themselves. The club got very little of that money ‘for free’ because it came via the Trust in exchange for shares.
It’s not even like the club sat in it’s ivory tower laughing as the money rolled in either. We were forced to sell Jon Parkin for a cut price which ruined our season last year, and our problems this season stem partly from the financial restrictions that having to continue to pay instalments to the FA have caused us.
If the owners could have just bailed us out in a heartbeat, do you not think they would have done it rather than ruining two seasons just to make a few grand from supporters of other clubs?
People need to look at some facts before spewing vitriol.
Incidentally, most people in this part of the world support one of the Manchester clubs. I suspect the same percentage of alty fans support United or City on the side as they do at Macc.
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Alty fans have never let the true facs get in the way before now, so you shouldn't expect it this time either.
They think they're in Cheshire for a start.
Chelsea ;D
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Have you two got no rustling to do? You're getting a bit obsessed with us now to be honest
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Macclesfield ;D :D :D
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Have you two got no rustling to do? You're getting a bit obsessed with us now to be honest
Nah, not obsessed. Just popped on to read your thread mocking our badly injured players a while ago and then thought I'd mention the chelsea game. It's your lot banging on and on and on about any straws you can find.
Oh.. And 'altrincham':
Altrincham :D
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Wow.
Good comeback again.
I would post a picture of a smack-head rent-boy, but no way I'm googling for that.
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Silkyman Cud ya do us a favour, let ya mam know ill be round 2night as usual ...by the way... wont be paying ... again
Make sure u let her know it was a bit busy last week
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Silkyman Cud ya do us a favour, let ya mam know ill be round 2night as usual ...by the way... wont be paying ... again
Make sure u let her know it was a bit busy last week
What a fiend! It was busy last week in there, you must have gone in after me. Hope i didnt leave too much mess.
Yours polishingly
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Can't make tonight but if you can forward the DVD then I won't feel I've out too much.
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I would post a picture of a smack-head rent-boy, but no way I'm googling for that.
Try your favourites.
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Silkyman Cud ya do us a favour, let ya mam know ill be round 2night as usual ...by the way... wont be paying ... again
Make sure u let her know it was a bit busy last week
What a fiend! It was busy last week in there, you must have gone in after me. Hope i didnt leave too much mess.
Yours polishingly
Ha ha.
Spot the people with an IQ of less than a sprout.
Good comeback. Cutting.
Well done.
Your dad would be proud of you if you knew who he was.
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Can i just say that this is the most entertaining forum around and its probebly beceuse of these moss rose cretins, how much do we pay them!
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It looks like Chelsea will be donating their share of the gate money to the Silkmen, this week is getting better and better. :-*
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Spot the people with an IQ of less than a sprout.
Good comeback. Cutting.
Well done.
Your dad would be proud of you if you knew who he was.
Do you know him? Mum did say somethin about the milkman?
Has your dad forgiven you yet for being the biggest waste of a wank he ever had?
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is that all you silkys have to chat about this season, a sodding payout from a tornament which to be quite frank you have been very lucky to get this fixture from, you lot realy are a dead bunch of sheep shagging sloths!
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Better than descending immediately into childish insults like you lot.
Must be stunning repartee on here when we're not around with intelligence and wit like this knocking about.
Yep, we were lucky to draw Chelsea. That's how cup draws work. It's something we in the educated world call 'random' meaning that any result is 'lucky' or 'unlucky' depending on your point of view. Last time we were in the Third Round we were away at Swansea. This may be construed as 'unlucky' but as we make the third round pretty much every other year at the moment, we weren't too fussed about it.
But lucky or not...
We're going to enjoy it.
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Your welcome to your big game, and by god will you need it. All the money in the world won't stop you struggling this season and the money won't last forever, if you perform the miracle this season do you think you'll carry it off next season?
How much of this money will get past your debts and ince's pocket? I doubt much will translate to the squad and thats where you need it, face it mate in 5 years time when your just another conference club there might be 27 macc fans who still bark on about stamford bridge but the other 1200 will remember the dire season when you finished your little flirt with the football league.
1200? cant believe i was that generous with the numbers but you know.
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Your welcome to your big game, and by god will you need it. All the money in the world won't stop you struggling this season and the money won't last forever, if you perform the miracle this season do you think you'll carry it off next season?
How much of this money will get past your debts and ince's pocket? I doubt much will translate to the squad and thats where you need it, face it mate in 5 years time when your just another conference club there might be 27 macc fans who still bark on about stamford bridge but the other 1200 will remember the dire season when you finished your little flirt with the football league.
1200? cant believe i was that generous with the numbers but you know.
You mean like the handful of Alty fans who continue to bang on about your former FA cup heyday?
Anyway, of course all the money in the world won't stop us struggling (partly thanks to Mr Blater's flipping transfer window) but it might well ensure that our struggle is a success. Or at least build us a side who finishes the season strongly and sets us up to bounce straight back next season if we do come and join you down there for a season.
And if we do pull it off this year, why shouldn't we carry it off next season. We've managed 10 years so far. If we get through this crisis why can't we last another 10. Or another after that.
But what are these debts that you lot keep going on about? The only debt we have is continued repayments to the FA, which have been budgetted for this season and part of the reason we are struggling. As that money is already arranged in the accounts, anything extra will be a bonus. The money we still owe the FA is even covered by the TV money and prize money from the first two rounds let alone what we will make from Chelsea.
And why would any of it go into Ince's pocket over and above his salary. How much do you think we are paying him> He came here looking for a first chance in management, not to line his pockets.
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Are you still here? I was listening to you until you said that Paul ince isn't on a good wage, he is doing it for experience. Surely you don't actually believe that?
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Oh, he's not doing it for absolute peanuts, but I've been led to believe that he's on less than our last two full time managers.
And we had his salary in the budget well before we got the FA ?Cup run so I'm not sure how it could all vanish into his pockets as was suggested.
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Im a United fan.
(im sure you'll all tell me to piss off etc etc)...boring.
Point is, Macc Town have got Incey as gaffer and Chelsea in the FA cup....nuff said.
And i dont really like either of you.
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Oh, he's not doing it for absolute peanuts, but I've been led to believe that he's on less than our last two full time managers.
And we had his salary in the budget well before we got the FA ?Cup run so I'm not sure how it could all vanish into his pockets as was suggested.
Is it the same sort of budget that you had sorted last time? You seem to have a lot of faith in the people in control of the clubs finances, hope you don't come across any more bogus invoices.
Wait for it, he'll be back with more tripe about the old regime next. I think there's a bit of fluff on your pants from last night silky, how's your foot and mouth?
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Im a United fan.
(im sure you'll all tell me to piss off etc etc)...boring.
Point is, Macc Town have got Incey as gaffer and Chelsea in the FA cup....nuff said.
And i dont really like either of you.
Won't tell you to piss off but it does beg the question what are you doing here anyway then? Good luck in the derby tomorrow Hank, enjoy the journey back down to London if you were lucky enough to get that ticket that always seems to elude all those Man U fans.
It is really hard to get a ticket for Old Trafford though isn't it, honestly!
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As I am rather bored I feel compelled to join the cut and thrust of this debate.
The first thing I will comment on is this:
Well done on taking a good following to Workington on a Tuesday night. But we’re well aware of our limitations when it comes to supporters. When it gets to four or five months since the last win, it can tend to drag. I go, but a lot don’t. Some people have drifted away from home games. Fair enough. You’ve got us on that. Enjoy the hollow victory that gives you.
Against the accusation that Macc have crap crowds (in comparison to many other football league clubs) our Macclesfield friend admits that this is true, and quite admirably holds his hands up to the charge. Normally one would be forced to say well done old chap for realising your limitations in this area, however he then goes on to tarnish this commendable action by claiming that what has been achieved is a 'hollow victory'. This struck me as fairly odd, as what is hollow about it? Silkyman doesn't explain why it is hollow, just defines it as such. Macclesfield have been accused of having poor crowds and he himself admitted that this is down to their smallish fan base, in terms of victory it seems a solid straight forward one.
To illustrate this point further I thought that perhaps it would be an idea to provide a real example of a 'hollow victory' and by pure chance silkyman has provided me with this opportunity (what luck!).
Many of his retorts up to now have focussed on Altrincham never having played league football and the fact that Macclesfield have. This is evidenced in the following posts:
1,400 against Rochdale with about 300(ish) Rochdale .. WELL DONE
1,400 more people watching a Football League game than you will EVER have. EVER.
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might be a printing error but the paper says your attendance yesterday was 1992??
Yes it was.
1992 people watching two football League sides.
The thrust behind these comments is that Altrincham have never played in the Football League. Fair enough, we haven't and one cannot argue too much against this devastating charge. But the question we have to ask is when fans of teams playing higher up the period use taunts regarding what level of football their opponents or rivals have played at, what exactly is the basis of such a jibe? Well, quite clearly it is along the lines of 'Ha Ha Ha, you have never been good enough to get promoted to this level'. And it is here that the retort breaks down. It breaks down because as we all know the Altrincham side of the early eighties was good enough to play league football and it was only due to a corrupt and deeply unfair system that they were not able to do so. What this means is that the basis of all retorts and jibes based on Macclesfield playing in the Football League and Altrincham not is merely a reference to how we were unfortunate enough to be denied by a corrupt system and Macclesfield weren't (when they were promoted). Therefore when we really boil things down, such as in this instance, it is clear that 'the Football League issue' is a hollow victory as the reason why it should be insulting simply does not apply to Altrincham, as such it is a victory in nothing but name.
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Best post in this thread i'd say. It was needed as well because the jokes about mothers were really quite embarrassing.
My main reason for wanting to see Macclesfield relegated is not hatred of them, but the anticipation of the good games (and crowds) the derbies would produce.
Bias aside i expect them to be relegated this season, but Ince to at least take them down fighting. Not sure about Ince playing in the FA Cup, mut be a huge shot to the morale of the player he replaces, who has got them through the last couple of rounds.
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Indeed. If Macc do manage to stay up I too would be suprised, tho they have got away with it after looking doomed in the recent past. Of course we need to as well to get those derbies back, which isn't looking too promising on current form. The problem is you get all these kids on, most of whom can't have ever seen a serious Macc-Alty fixture chatting complete guff because they get the chance to play Chelsea's reserve team. Regardless of this tie, Macclesfield as I'm sure they know will take 6000 down to West London then be back for about 1800ish the Saturday after which is the underlying problem and why on Confguide they are always looked upon as a Non League team after what 10 years in the league now.
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Oh, he's not doing it for absolute peanuts, but I've been led to believe that he's on less than our last two full time managers.
And we had his salary in the budget well before we got the FA ?Cup run so I'm not sure how it could all vanish into his pockets as was suggested.
Is it the same sort of budget that you had sorted last time? You seem to have a lot of faith in the people in control of the clubs finances, hope you don't come across any more bogus invoices.
Wait for it, he'll be back with more tripe about the old regime next. I think there's a bit of fluff on your pants from last night silky, how's your foot and mouth?
Well that was all because of the old regime, and because the FA went through our finances with a fine toothed comb for two and a half years, I get the feeling there are no other skeletons in the closet.
The problems we faced last year and the financial situation now are not related in any way. The problems of last year had nothing to do with the playing side in the slightest.
Those things all occured more than a year before the current owners even arrived at the club.
I wish people would read into some of the facts before passing inane comments.
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Stuff that I won't repeat here because it just clutters up the board to have quotes of quotes and that...
It's a hollow victory because, and I don't like 'gate' arguments, the people who only had that to say were ignoring the fact that the gate they were so amused by, was significantly higher than your highest of the season. It would be the same as me laughing at colchester for their crowds. Pointless. We've had a fortnight of stockport fans banging on about it on our boards. Just like last year when we beat them 6-0 and they went on about the gate for months! tres amusant.
The comments about the Football League were meant to be as pointless as the 'ha ha you've got no fans' posts.
Incidentally, I know all about the corrupt system that kept you down. (We also got done over by the cartel they used to have up here) One of the reasons I would LOVE to see Rochdale get relegated is the way some of them actually revel in the fact they bribed people to be in the League. They think they are innately superior to anyone who has ever played non-League football. (Even Wigan FFS)
If we send them down, I'll be delighted. If we go down and happen to take them with us, then I would be pleased that they were along for the ride.
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Yes I do wnat Macc to come down obviously, but there's a reet selection of teams to get relegated from league 2 that I'd be more than satisfied to see. Primarikly I think i'd just like 2 north west clubs (but not Bury as i think that would be then end of them).
p.s. Silkyman, just be careful up there in the ivory towers you're accustomed to, maybe the cup run will give you a bigger budget to bounce back with should you come down, but the relative sub 2000 support make sme think you'll do a Rushden/Cambridge/Kidderminster rather than a Shrewsbury/Carlisle/Oxford. If you come down, this league will eat you up, it ain't what it used to be.
p.p.s. If you've got money I think you shouldve broke the bank to get Stabby back as he wouldve kept you up, no doubt.
p.p.p.s. Tinson was excellent again for burton last week
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Stuff that I won't repeat here because it just clutters up the board to have quotes of quotes and that...
It's a hollow victory because, and I don't like 'gate' arguments, the people who only had that to say were ignoring the fact that the gate they were so amused by, was significantly higher than your highest of the season. It would be the same as me laughing at colchester for their crowds. Pointless. We've had a fortnight of stockport fans banging on about it on our boards. Just like last year when we beat them 6-0 and they went on about the gate for months! tres amusant.
The comments about the Football League were meant to be as pointless as the 'ha ha you've got no fans' posts.
Incidentally, I know all about the corrupt system that kept you down. (We also got done over by the cartel they used to have up here) One of the reasons I would LOVE to see Rochdale get relegated is the way some of them actually revel in the fact they bribed people to be in the League. They think they are innately superior to anyone who has ever played non-League football. (Even Wigan FFS)
If we send them down, I'll be delighted. If we go down and happen to take them with us, then I would be pleased that they were along for the ride.
i would love to rochdale go down i cant stand them , one vote thing and they have always been in bottom league
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It's a hollow victory because, and I don't like 'gate' arguments, the people who only had that to say were ignoring the fact that the gate they were so amused by, was significantly higher than your highest of the season. It would be the same as me laughing at colchester for their crowds. Pointless.
The criticism was that you have poor crowds compared to the rest of the football league. I agree that if Altrincham were also in the Football League and were achieving similar crowds then this would be a rather odd thing to mention.
However as Altrincham have never played in the Football League (as you so like to remind us) there is no way to achieve a direct comparison. The dubious honour that we have never played in the League therefore allows us to criticise, solidly, at will. ;)