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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Alty365 on November 22, 2006, 03:34:00 PM

Title: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Alty365 on November 22, 2006, 03:34:00 PM
It seems to me that drums are extremely unpopular at Moss Lane and a lot of Alty fans would prefer them not to be brought into the ground. I would therefore like to ask Phil Taylor or any club representatives who might read this if it is possible to ban them from being brought into the ground, whether on the grounds of safety or just sheer annoyance.

I sincerely hope this brings us a step closer to making Moss Lane a "drum free zone".


Come on Alty!!!!
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Jacko on November 22, 2006, 04:05:44 PM
Jesus christ you lot would be a top laugh at the world cup or a continental match!!!! Banning drums!!! i'll tell you what lets ban all noise!!! I personally think drum rhythm and football go very well together and adds to the carnival!!!
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Bob on November 22, 2006, 04:25:36 PM
Loads of Brazillians or Spaniards in a big stadium in the summer with drums and trumpets = carnival

A dozen blokes from, e.g. Morecambe stood on Chequers on a winter evening with monotonous drum beat and nothing else = irritation

Ban the bloody things!


Jesus christ you lot would be a top laugh at the world cup or a continental match!!!! Banning drums!!! i'll tell you what lets ban all noise!!! I personally think drum rhythm and football go very well together and adds to the carnival!!!

Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: altrincham on November 22, 2006, 04:41:17 PM
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Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: teasybeaver on November 22, 2006, 04:49:02 PM
Notting Hill is a carnival, i wouldn't be to gutted if they banned footballs being kicked around there. Hence, lets go full circle and ban drums from football. International and inter-continental games might be the place for a drum but why can't some of these fans put their heads together and come up with a few colourful chants instead.

And its not like i've seen any budding Keith Moon's in the chequers end in recent years, i've heard more rhythm in Raffo's half time announcements!

Make this thread a petition, all those in favour vent your frustrations below!
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Jacko on November 22, 2006, 04:53:17 PM
Could you imagine these fans delight at your protests!!! Come on they would mock you!!! Its theyre job to annoy you as much as possible play a differant tune!!!
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: altrincham on November 22, 2006, 04:59:28 PM
If we cant ban them lets get some good chants to embarrass the drummer into submission
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Alty365 on November 22, 2006, 05:05:26 PM
i've heard more rhythm in Raffo's half time announcements!

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Jimmy Hill on November 22, 2006, 05:16:57 PM
Apologies for the re-post, however I believe the point still stands:

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I realise that as it is our own ground it seems fair to assume that we should decide upon the rules regarding what goes on inside.

However might it not be seen as a little churlish to ban drums simply because a section of the home crowd finds them annoying? Imposing rules upon the opposition’s supporters that don’t seem to be in place anywhere else (at least not in the Conference) hardly endears the club to them and as such they may be less inclined to spend money in the bar and on food and drinks etc...

Imagine a scenario where you were told that the home fans don't like to hear a lot of noise, so they have decided that as no one in the home crowd shouts or sings the away fans should also be subject to the no shouting or singing rule. To enforce the rule anyone who does shout or sing will be ejected from the ground. No one would like this draconian measure and it would make you see the club that imposed such a rule in a dim light. I know my example is not completely analogous to that of the drum, but what is true is that the away supporter is being constrained from doing what he would like to do, indeed what he may do every week, simply because the home fans find his actions annoying.

I'm pretty apathetic on the issue of drums, but banning them is surely a step too far.
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: teasybeaver on November 22, 2006, 05:18:30 PM
Oi Warrington! What the F*$£ is going on with my Karma!  >:(
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: teasybeaver on November 22, 2006, 05:24:44 PM
Apologies for the re-post, however I believe the point still stands:

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I realise that as it is our own ground it seems fair to assume that we should decide upon the rules regarding what goes on inside.

However might it not be seen as a little churlish to ban drums simply because a section of the home crowd finds them annoying? Imposing rules upon the opposition’s supporters that don’t seem to be in place anywhere else (at least not in the Conference) hardly endears the club to them and as such they may be less inclined to spend money in the bar and on food and drinks etc...

Imagine a scenario where you were told that the home fans don't like to hear a lot of noise, so they have decided that as no one in the home crowd shouts or sings the away fans should also be subject to the no shouting or singing rule. To enforce the rule anyone who does shout or sing will be ejected from the ground. No one would like this draconian measure and it would make you see the club that imposed such a rule in a dim light. I know my example is not completely analogous to that of the drum, but what is true is that the away supporter is being constrained from doing what he would like to do, indeed what he may do every week, simply because the home fans find his actions annoying.

I'm pretty apathetic on the issue of drums, but banning them is surely a step too far.

So where do we stand with air horns? At the risk of Warrington bringing further bad karma against me i think your wrong. It's not like its mob rule or anything just a simple no drums rule, its nothing to do with the noise level its just an annoying repetitive sound coming from some pleb with no originality, loud or not!

At the end of the day its not the end of the world but even if we were 4-0 up it would still get right on my man breasts!
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Unemployed Coalminer on November 22, 2006, 05:26:03 PM
Maybe the answer is to send a horde of seven or eight year old girls to run around and scream near them and annoy them into submission.
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Jacko on November 22, 2006, 05:29:15 PM
Come on give the morcambe fans a bit of credit they would bang that drum if they were gettin beat not just to annoy
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Unemployed Coalminer on November 22, 2006, 05:32:08 PM
I'd like to know how many fans of clubs that have drummers are irritated by them. Maybe a dedicated musicians area could be designated ie. make him stand on his own.
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Jimmy Hill on November 22, 2006, 05:41:52 PM
So where do we stand with air horns?

Air horns are deemed to be dangerous, drums are not. They are the rules unfortunately.

I myself don't have any problem with air horns, however I don't make the rules.

At the risk of Warrington bringing further bad karma against me i think your wrong. It's not like its mob rule or anything just a simple no drums rule, its nothing to do with the noise level its just an annoying repetitive sound coming from some pleb with no originality, loud or not!

Fine then; imagine the same scenario I have just outlined, however replace the fact they don't like singing and shouting as it is loud with the reason that they find singing and shouting 'annoying and repetitive'.

We all find lots of things annoying at the match however very few of us demand the offending thing/person/article be banned.

Banning drums would look petty and small-minded IMO and cause more trouble than it is worth. It also rests on using a principle that we would not want used against us when we travel away i.e. we can't do something we do every week because the home fans find it annoying.
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: altrincham on November 22, 2006, 05:46:19 PM
why is an airhorn dangerous?
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Unemployed Coalminer on November 22, 2006, 05:54:31 PM
It might frighten you into spilling hot tea all over your crotch.
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Jimmy Hill on November 22, 2006, 05:57:43 PM
why is an airhorn dangerous?

Presumably because you could deafen someone with it.

Yes, I am aware you could injure some one with a drum stick in the eye, ear, nostril etc... However an air horn could cause damage completely by accident, to inflict damage with a drum stick you have to be actively trying to cause damage.

If we then ban everything that may cause any type of damage, intend or unintended, we would end up watching the match wearing nothing but mittens whilst sitting on a bouncy castle.
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: altrincham on November 22, 2006, 05:59:43 PM
what a load of bollocks!   air horns are a great tradition at moss land
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Unemployed Coalminer on November 22, 2006, 06:00:40 PM
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Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on November 22, 2006, 06:51:52 PM
we would end up watching the match wearing nothing but mittens whilst sitting on a bouncy castle.

awesome!!!!!!! bagsi first go!
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: alty.fc on November 22, 2006, 06:55:29 PM
why is an airhorn dangerous?

Presumably because you could deafen someone with it.

Which takes me back to ... is a drum not a deafening sound?

Still as clear as mud
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Jimmy Hill on November 22, 2006, 07:29:04 PM
Which takes me back to ... is a drum not a deafening sound?

Still as clear as mud

At a guess, no.

Hence them not being banned.
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: CB on November 22, 2006, 08:57:15 PM
Agree with Jimmy. It would make us a laughing stock if we banned them because a few fans didn't like it. Boo hoo. Sing over the drum and ignore it. The constant griping over an instruments at games is getting ridiculous. Concentrate on our team/fans etc, not what the other lot are doing.
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: teasybeaver on November 22, 2006, 09:45:58 PM
Agree with Jimmy. It would make us a laughing stock if we banned them because a few fans didn't like it. Boo hoo. Sing over the drum and ignore it. The constant griping over an instruments at games is getting ridiculous. Concentrate on our team/fans etc, not what the other lot are doing.

That's the point! How can anyone concentrate on anything other than wanting to pummel the daft prick with the bastard drum! I've lost my rag with this now! It's f**king obvious for god's sake, drums are cak! even the people sticking up for the footballing Alan Whites of this world will have to agree that constant drumming throughout games or in fact drumming at all is bloody annoying! BAN THEM! Bollocks to all this PC, got to be nice to the drummers or we'll end up with a totalitarian football stadium nonsense, they're sh*t get rid of them. And seeing as though we have banned them we now have room to re-instate the atom bomb, i mean the air horn!

Good night!
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Alty365 on November 22, 2006, 09:51:50 PM
Agree with Jimmy. It would make us a laughing stock if we banned them because a few fans didn't like it. Boo hoo. Sing over the drum and ignore it. The constant griping over an instruments at games is getting ridiculous. Concentrate on our team/fans etc, not what the other lot are doing.

That's the point! How can anyone concentrate on anything other than wanting to pummel the daft prick with the bastard drum! I've lost my rag with this now! It's f**king obvious for god's sake, drums are cak! even the people sticking up for the footballing Alan Whites of this world will have to agree that constant drumming throughout games or in fact drumming at all is bloody annoying! BAN THEM! Bollocks to all this PC, got to be nice to the drummers or we'll end up with a totalitarian football stadium nonsense, they're sh*t get rid of them. And seeing as though we have banned them we now have room to re-instate the atom bomb, i mean the air horn!

Good night!

That rant has just earned you a "Goodwin".

Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Darren on November 22, 2006, 10:06:36 PM
why is an airhorn dangerous?
Read the ground regulations that are posted on the outside of every turnstile (unless they have been ripped down again) it tells you what is prohibited in the ground. Airhorns are banned because they have a gas filled canister.
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on November 22, 2006, 10:31:17 PM
some people would claim i am often filled with gas am i still allowed in? ;)
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: gazwarrington on November 23, 2006, 07:59:43 AM
as I said the only way for MusicalIinstruments to get kicked out of football is if someone was injured by one.

God that was a very long night , certainly worth it with that display by England.
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: altrincham on November 23, 2006, 10:22:26 AM
why is an airhorn dangerous?
Read the ground regulations that are posted on the outside of every turnstile (unless they have been ripped down again) it tells you what is prohibited in the ground. Airhorns are banned because they have a gas filled canister.



What wrong with a gas filled canister?   Is it because its flammable?
Title: Re: CAN DRUMS BE BANNED FROM MOSS LANE?
Post by: Unemployed Coalminer on November 23, 2006, 10:27:07 AM
I'm pretty sure it's only compressed air, but could still be explosive if punctured due to the high pressure.