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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: david sneddon on May 22, 2008, 09:35:06 PM
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I wonder if they are the promotion chasing club that was rumoured to be in financial mire if they didnt go up? A lot of players being offloaded,trying to balance the books perhaps?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/cambridge_utd/7414542.stm
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Lee Boylan, Danny Brown and Mark Convery, who all have one year left on their contracts have also been transfer listed by cambridge united, so its either a "rip it up and start again" job or a bit of budget trimming as sharpish as possble.
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We probably cannot afford any of their contract players, but i do wonder what happened to their amazing winger that they had 2 or 3 seasons back when we lost the away game 4-0. I remember him giving our defenders a hard time from the left wing. He managed to turn inside our right back following a swerve and then scored, but he was very quick. I cannot remeber his name only that he was of ethnic origine, and was there best player on the pitch on the day. he was not there this season.
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Is this him?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fola_Onibuje (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fola_Onibuje)
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We probably cannot afford any of their contract players, but i do wonder what happened to their amazing winger that they had 2 or 3 seasons back when we lost the away game 4-0. I remember him giving our defenders a hard time from the left wing. He managed to turn inside our right back following a swerve and then scored, but he was very quick. I cannot remeber his name only that he was of ethnic origine, and was there best player on the pitch on the day. he was not there this season.
think this is cortney pitt your talkin about now he is well out of our reach
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Thanks Jacko, you are right. I was not able to dig my program out after all this time to give you guys better info. As I see it we need one or two wide players, a defender, and a tall forward as a target man. Where and how we get them is another matter, it will probaly have to be loan players.
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Just to quell the rumours coming from various sources that we are in the sh*t, JQ is mostly releasing/transfer listing the said players as they are plainly not good enough, too old, and because he has got other players lined up. Although in the interests of Courtney Pitt, that's due to financial reasons. He was on a very big wage but too often than not was too inconsistent, and JQ has lost patience.
Our chairman has recently stated the clubs finances are healthier than they ever have been, as that includes the £115k we got for Rendell, the bumper FA Cup run, the 25% gate receipts of 42,500 at Wembley last week, and all the general trimmings that come with a play-off surge.
We'll be alright, for one more season at least...
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Paul Carden has signed for Wxm today. Dont know that much about him tbh
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Paul Carden is an excellent signing for Wrexham in the context that he is a very effective Conference player. He was impressive for Burton and was a major part of second place Cambridge's side this season. If they continue to make measured conference signings like that rather than paying failed league 2 players on high wages then they'll
fall short exaclty like Torquay did and be in the financial soup next season go very well in the BSP.
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Just to quell the rumours coming from various sources that we are in the sh*t, JQ is mostly releasing/transfer listing the said players as they are plainly not good enough, too old, and because he has got other players lined up. Although in the interests of Courtney Pitt, that's due to financial reasons. He was on a very big wage but too often than not was too inconsistent, and JQ has lost patience.
Our chairman has recently stated the clubs finances are healthier than they ever have been, as that includes the £115k we got for Rendell, the bumper FA Cup run, the 25% gate receipts of 42,500 at Wembley last week, and all the general trimmings that come with a play-off surge.
We'll be alright, for one more season at least...
or will you?
Further cost saving is reported from Cambridge United by the local Evening News which says that "General manager Heather Wilkanowski and commercial and public relations man Andy Duncan have both been made redundant by United. It is understood the decision to lay off Wilkanowski and Duncan is due to plans to restructure the club behind the scenes in a bid to cut costs. That is despite chairman Phil Law stating United were in better shape financially than they had been for many years when he spoke to the News last week. However, it is well known the club is still some way from reaching its goal of being able to break even
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Yes we will.
As ever, the local paper does not print the full story. Yes, they have been made redundant, but we now have directors on board who can do those jobs instead.. Why employ three people to do one persons job? It's the same for any business, it makes sense. The CEN never lets the facts get in the way of a nice story. They're taking the worst face value scenario and printing that because it sounds more interesting rather than the truth.
Find someone else to save you from relegation again next season, 'cause it won't be us!
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Yes we will.
As ever, the local paper does not print the full story. Yes, they have been made redundant, but we now have directors on board who can do those jobs instead.. Why employ three people to do one persons job? It's the same for any business, it makes sense. The CEN never lets the facts get in the way of a nice story. They're taking the worst face value scenario and printing that because it sounds more interesting rather than the truth.
Find someone else to save you from relegation again next season, 'cause it won't be us!
Isn't this the person who was so nice and friendly to us on this site last year when his club were in the sh*t?
Funny how he's gone all facetious now they've had a good season.
As someone else said earlier, what a tw*t.
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Yes we will.
As ever, the local paper does not print the full story. Yes, they have been made redundant, but we now have directors on board who can do those jobs instead.. Why employ three people to do one persons job? It's the same for any business, it makes sense. The CEN never lets the facts get in the way of a nice story. They're taking the worst face value scenario and printing that because it sounds more interesting rather than the truth.
Find someone else to save you from relegation again next season, 'cause it won't be us!
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Brilliant Dustin, brilliant!
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Dustin, fair play te ya an after yer fine performance at the Eurovision shindig.
The king o skangers.
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Dustin The Turkey
Thats gotta be the best username on here ! ;D
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Isn't this the person who was so nice and friendly to us on this site last year when his club were in the sh*t?
Funny how he's gone all facetious now they've had a good season.
As someone else said earlier, what a tw*t.
Erm... was i? I was under the impression from Hughesy and co. that i've always been a T**t. ;D
Anyway, i'm glad i've got on your tits, touchy.
Keep scraping the barrels of other clubs financial problems, whatever makes you happy love.
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Why are you struggling though after the season you've had Chris?
At the very least it sounds as if the cup and play off runs had been budgeted for. It's a very strange state of affairs.
Are you still paying rent for the Gissa Job Stadium?
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Yes. Due to the (alleged) criminal activity of some former directors, we are paying a property developer £200,000 a year rent for the Abbey Stadium for the next 50 years!
The reason we have a lower budget this season is simply to try and live within our means and hopefully break even, which admittedly came second to promotion this season just gone.
The £110k for Scott Rendell, £50k a year stadium sponsorship, the FA Cup run to Wolves and 25% gate receipts of this years play-off final paid for last season's big push for promotion. Realising we might not be so lucky this time round with the player sales and cup runs, they've cut the budget so not to overspend.
The rumours of financial ruin are the birthchild of bitter fans of other clubs who have a dislike for Cambridge. In fact i believe it all started due to a throwaway comment by the Woking chairman. I didn't realise he was such an expert on other teams finances!
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For a club to have had such a successful season and yet have to lose/sack so many personnel indicates there are serious problems.
However, Chris, as long as you are happy to ignore your own club's issues and come onto the forum of a club that knows how to run itself then that is very flattering. But it looks to all of us that you should pay a little more attention to your own club.
BTW: we have no dislike for Cambridge, just for people who have no concept of reality.
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Jennifers Dad, what a perfect lesson in how to be very patronising. I couldn't have done better if i tried myself.
Anyone would think Altrincham have never had financial problems nor embarrassed themselves with poor administration skills with regards to say.... player registration? (Ooops, there goes my patronising effort!)
On a serious note, may i ask how you seem to know so much about my club than what i do? I have close ties within CUFC, including helping out with the official website and running an unofficial website, meaning i get to know most of the ins and outs of my football club before things come to light, as any 'conferenceforum' reader would tell you. I'd be amazed if you knew more about it than me!! Anyone who knows me would tell you should their be anything dodgy or amiss going on at Cambridge, i would be the first dissenting voice on any forum, pushing for the truth.
But then again, you don't know anything about that, do you?
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Jennifers Dad, what a perfect lesson in how to be very patronising. I couldn't have done better if i tried myself.
Anyone would think Altrincham have never had financial problems nor embarrassed themselves with poor administration skills with regards to say.... player registration? (Ooops, there goes my patronising effort!)
On a serious note, may i ask how you seem to know so much about my club than what i do? I have close ties within CUFC, including helping out with the official website and running an unofficial website, meaning i get to know most of the ins and outs of my football club before things come to light, as any 'conferenceforum' reader would tell you. I'd be amazed if you knew more about it than me!! Anyone who knows me would tell you should their be anything dodgy or amiss going on at Cambridge, i would be the first dissenting voice on any forum, pushing for the truth.
But then again, you don't know anything about that, do you?
Yes we have - So we know the signs!
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Chris, Alty are the oracle on all other non-league clubs, did you not realise that? ;D By concerning themselves about everyone else's potential shortcomings (real or imagined) they don't have to worry about their own.
Check out the new deal in the Alty club shop, outsized home shirts that comfortably accomodate the massive chips on each shoulder ;D
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Chris, Alty are the oracle on all other non-league clubs, did you not realise that? ;D By concerning themselves about everyone else's potential shortcomings (real or imagined) they don't have to worry about their own.
Check out the new deal in the Alty club shop, outsized home shirts that comfortably accomodate the massive chips on each shoulder ;D
So why are you on our forum?
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Er, have I commented on your shortcomings? Next question? ::)
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Chris, Alty are the oracle on all other non-league clubs, did you not realise that? ;D By concerning themselves about everyone else's potential shortcomings (real or imagined) they don't have to worry about their own.
Check out the new deal in the Alty club shop, outsized home shirts that comfortably accomodate the massive chips on each shoulder ;D
So why are you on our forum?
...probably for the same reason as why I'm on your forum...we have an old joke in Northwich...if you want to know anything about Vics, just ask an Alty fan. ::)
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Er, have I commented on your shortcomings? Next question? ::)
We have none! ;)
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Chris, Alty are the oracle on all other non-league clubs, did you not realise that? ;D By concerning themselves about everyone else's potential shortcomings (real or imagined) they don't have to worry about their own.
Check out the new deal in the Alty club shop, outsized home shirts that comfortably accomodate the massive chips on each shoulder ;D
So why are you on our forum?
...probably for the same reason as why I'm on your forum...we have an old joke in Northwich...if you want to know anything about Vics, just ask an Alty fan. ::)
Because we are omniscient
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Er, have I commented on your shortcomings? Next question? ::)
We have none! ;)
Chris Senior...he's a shortcoming! ;)
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And GH has plenty of shortcomings ;D Although he's fair, but humble ::) ;)
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Er, have I commented on your shortcomings? Next question? ::)
We have none! ;)
Chris Senior...he's a shortcoming! ;)
Short? Yes! As for the other part - I don't know him well enough!
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Two Vics fans on our forum saying we are obsessed. Nice touch.
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Er, have I commented on your shortcomings? Next question? ::)
We have none! ;)
Chris Senior...he's a shortcoming! ;)
Short? Yes! As for the other part - I don't know him well enough!
Glad to here it! ;D
....and for Markecky....see my last post....if you want to know about Vics etc. Nothing to do with an obsession about Alty. I'm happy with Vics thanks but seeing as you seem to know all about us I drop by. Perhaps you could pop onto our forum to post all your snippets of Vics info. You'd be doing me a great service. Cheers.
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Two Vics fans on our forum saying we are obsessed. Nice touch.
Yes, and a forum which on a daily basis just itches to spread mis-information and tittle tattle. If isn't Vics, you're having a pop at Cambridge, Halifax and even Barrow I note. How good it must be to be such an upstanding (and obviously ever so humble) club. ;) ::)
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Two Vics fans on our forum saying we are obsessed. Nice touch.
Yes, and a forum which on a daily basis just itches to spread mis-information and tittle tattle. If isn't Vics, you're having a pop at Cambridge, Halifax and even Barrow I note. How good it must be to be such an upstanding (and obviously ever so humble) club. ;) ::)
My god! A football forum where people talk about other clubs in the same division as their own? Whatever next? If you want 100% fact and quality news reporting try John Laidlar's updates at www.altrinchamfc.com
This is a forum where Alty fans come to chat and if you don't like what is being said you are welcome to browse Vics chat anytime you like.
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WOW!!! I cant believe you'd even come on our forum and have a dig at us for seeing things from our point of view....idiots ???
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Do you go round to other peoples houses who haven't invited you and start kicking off if they start talking people at work and stuff?
"Oooo you know Barbara at work...she told me she is having some troubles at the moment with her Derek.."
"*Living Room Door Bursts Open**
"Hey I'm a Northwich fan and I say you cant talk about that"
"Who the f**k are you..get out you scruffy tw*t, look at the state of you, get out of my house"
Are you the chat police or something?
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Who would I sooner Support
a) The club thats put all its players up for sale and is sacking all its staff
b) The club with no stadium and no assets thats spending like its end of days
c) The club thats made yet another seasonal profit and that has just signed the england left back?
Tough choice. :D
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Do you go round to other peoples houses who haven't invited you and start kicking off if they start talking people at work and stuff?
"Oooo you know Barbara at work...she told me she is having some troubles at the moment with her Derek.."
"*Living Room Door Bursts Open**
"Hey I'm a Northwich fan and I say you cant talk about that"
"Who the f**k are you..get out you scruffy tw*t, look at the state of you, get out of my house"
Are you the chat police or something?
You miss the point. Of course we don't have a problem with you discussing Vics on here (as if we could!!). Quite a lot of the time it makes for good reading and it is interesting to read the view of other fans. Sometimes you can get too close to your club so it's good to see things from another perspective.
What does rile me at times, however, is when you (as a forum not necessarily you personally) blatantly fabricate figures, refuse to believe things that ARE fact and twist stories round into something they are not, more often than not then going on to propogate those stories on national sites. You will find very few comments by Vics fans about Alty anywhere. Our forum is by and large supportive of your reprieve (is it even a repreive? you're in the BSP on merit as far as I'm concerned) and most comments are limited to light-hearted banter. There is not of the vitriol which Alty fans quite often write about Vics.
I posted on here a few weeks ago, can't remember what it was but I think it was just correcting a post someone on here had made or making a light-hearted comment, yet you replied pretty aggressively. There's just no need for that.
Chill! ;)
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As stated elsewhere, this is a forum where people are allowed to speculate and be a little liberal with the truth at times. It's not the Rothman's Football Yearbook!
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Do you go round to other peoples houses who haven't invited you and start kicking off if they start talking people at work and stuff?
"Oooo you know Barbara at work...she told me she is having some troubles at the moment with her Derek.."
"*Living Room Door Bursts Open**
"Hey I'm a Northwich fan and I say you cant talk about that"
"Who the f**k are you..get out you scruffy tw*t, look at the state of you, get out of my house"
Are you the chat police or something?
You miss the point. Of course we don't have a problem with you discussing Vics on here (as if we could!!). Quite a lot of the time it makes for good reading and it is interesting to read the view of other fans. Sometimes you can get too close to your club so it's good to see things from another perspective.
What does rile me at times, however, is when you (as a forum not necessarily you personally) blatantly fabricate figures, refuse to believe things that ARE fact and twist stories round into something they are not, more often than not then going on to propogate those stories on national sites. You will find very few comments by Vics fans about Alty anywhere. Our forum is by and large supportive of your reprieve (is it even a repreive? you're in the BSP on merit as far as I'm concerned) and most comments are limited to light-hearted banter. There is not of the vitriol which Alty fans quite often write about Vics.
I posted on here a few weeks ago, can't remember what it was but I think it was just correcting a post someone on here had made or making a light-hearted comment, yet you replied pretty aggressively. There's just no need for that.
Chill! ;)
No your stewards just chin Alty fans instead!
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The bottom line is, if you support another club than Alty, and you don't like what we're saying on our own forum, log out and go on your own furum.
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You miss the point vicsprick, this is a forum. We can say what we want about who we want when we want. You seem to forget that we chose only to say nice things in the whole when you lot were about to go out of existence a few months back.
Now we're all wondering what was wrong with us when youre clearly getting ready to do it all again and you keep coming on here talking utter wank and acting like your club is squeaky clean. Youre an ill informed cretin and once more, tiresome at that.
Next time, have it on record, that I hope you dissapear down a saltmine never to be seen again you bunch of farm interfering half-witted robbing cheating green dirty scumbags! I dont care if we lose a rival, you're a joke!
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You miss the point vicsprick, this is a forum. We can say what we want about who we want when we want. You seem to forget that we chose only to say nice things in the whole when you lot were about to go out of existence a few months back.
Now we're all wondering what was wrong with us when youre clearly getting ready to do it all again and you keep coming on here talking utter wank and acting like your club is squeaky clean. Youre an ill informed cretin and once more, tiresome at that.
Next time, have it on record, that I hope you dissapear down a saltmine never to be seen again you bunch of farm interfering half-witted robbing cheating green dirty scumbags! I dont care if we lose a rival, you're a joke!
:D
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You miss the point vicsprick, this is a forum. We can say what we want about who we want when we want. You seem to forget that we chose only to say nice things in the whole when you lot were about to go out of existence a few months back.
Now we're all wondering what was wrong with us when youre clearly getting ready to do it all again and you keep coming on here talking utter wank and acting like your club is squeaky clean. Youre an ill informed cretin and once more, tiresome at that.
Next time, have it on record, that I hope you dissapear down a saltmine never to be seen again you bunch of farm interfering half-witted robbing cheating green dirty scumbags! I dont care if we lose a rival, you're a joke!
Indeed you did. You said some nice things about us when you thought we were going into liquidation or administration. How very noble of you. As soon as it became clear that we weren't and as soon as we started threatening your existence in the BSP by catching you up, the vitriol resurfaced again.
What's with all the personal insults on here now? You don't know me. All you've managed to do there is make yourself look rather immature, incapable of debating anything in a reasoned manner and incapable of expressing yourself without resorting to colourful language. Perhaps I'm being unfair and maybe you genuinely do have learning difficulties. Maybe I'm doing you a dis-service, just as you do to the many Alty fans who are capable of making some good points and salient observations.
You'll be pleased to know that I'm now going to remove my registration. Toodle pip. I'd like to say it's been fun but you know...
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Thank christ for that.
I couldn't be arsed emailing you to check my posts before I posted them.
Anyway there less to talk about now...you secretly being part time has now been confirmed so thats one thing we have been telling you about for years sorted.
We just need the shop to "close for a refit" now as we've all predicted.
We'll let you know when it does.
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Look, I think most of us here enjoy having fans of other clubs on here...Vics, Cambridge, Kiddy and York fans are just a few of the people that post quite regularly and it's great to get another viewpoint on issues.
But what is really frustrating is getting told we twist stories and make up facts whenever something happens. As pointed out, this is an Altrincham FC forum and so whenever something happens, it's natural to look for factors that could effect us. After 3 reprieves, it is understandable that fans of other clubs think we are just looking for another escape route, but that is not the case. We can discuss other clubs issues and we can all post our own views and it's becoming ridiculous the amount of critcism we're getting for posting opinions on our own forum! If we are such a joke, why don't you spend more time with your perfect fans whose opinons are all perfectly valid.
Don't call us obsessed when you could quite easily spend your time on your own forum. And Chris, it makes me laugh the amount of times you call us "touchy" when you are the guy being so defensive and taking such offence when we were merely pointing out the goings on at your club and discussing the possible reasons for the clearout.
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If i'd have known it would only have taken a quick personal snipe I would have posted that three pages ago and saved us all the frustration.
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Look, I think most of us here enjoy having fans of other clubs on here...Vics, Cambridge, Kiddy and York fans are just a few of the people that post quite regularly and it's great to get another viewpoint on issues.
But what is really frustrating is getting told we twist stories and make up facts whenever something happens. As pointed out, this is an Altrincham FC forum and so whenever something happens, it's natural to look for factors that could effect us. After 3 reprieves, it is understandable that fans of other clubs think we are just looking for another escape route, but that is not the case. We can discuss other clubs issues and we can all post our own views and it's becoming ridiculous the amount of critcism we're getting for posting opinions on our own forum! If we are such a joke, why don't you spend more time with your perfect fans whose opinons are all perfectly valid.
Don't call us obsessed when you could quite easily spend your time on your own forum. And Chris, it makes me laugh the amount of times you call us "touchy" when you are the guy being so defensive and taking such offence when we were merely pointing out the goings on at your club and discussing the possible reasons for the clearout.
We should take it as a compliment I suppose, I think the reason so many other clubs fans' come on here is because it's such an active and well designed forum.
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Have a goodwin ... ;D ;D ;D
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And Chris, it makes me laugh the amount of times you call us "touchy" when you are the guy being so defensive and taking such offence when we were merely pointing out the goings on at your club and discussing the possible reasons for the clearout.
Ahhh but it's not just any old club discussing these things, it's Altrincham fans, who quite a lot of almost feed off other teams possible financial problems like vultures. It's like you're trying to save yourself from relegation before the season has even started! I browse quite a lot of forums, and this one is the only one that can't wait to accuse others of not running their football clubs properly as soon as a couple of players are released or transfer listed.
Even when i've presented the real reason why things have happened, i still get smarmy replies and sly digs doubting my knowledge of my own football club, so maybe i can be forgiven for being a little defensive, or even 'touchy'?
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To be fair Chris, we don't have to try too hard to save ourselves from relegation. Other clubs are queuing up to save us from the drop year after year after year... It doesn't really matter if it's Cambridge United, or some other club, you can rest assured there will always be somebody willing to balls things up on our behalf.
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And Chris, it makes me laugh the amount of times you call us "touchy" when you are the guy being so defensive and taking such offence when we were merely pointing out the goings on at your club and discussing the possible reasons for the clearout.
Ahhh but it's not just any old club discussing these things, it's Altrincham fans, who quite a lot of almost feed off other teams possible financial problems like vultures. It's like you're trying to save yourself from relegation before the season has even started! I browse quite a lot of forums, and this one is the only one that can't wait to accuse others of not running their football clubs properly as soon as a couple of players are released or transfer listed.
Even when i've presented the real reason why things have happened, i still get smarmy replies and sly digs doubting my knowledge of my own football club, so maybe i can be forgiven for being a little defensive, or even 'touchy'?
Sorry, but if this is all too much for you then you can stop coming on here to read it all and comment.
Of course we're interested in financial affairs of other clubs, its become an important part of our footballing matters unfortunately. We're not interested because we want them to give us a lifeline, we're interested because we've been there and come back and shown how a club should be run, we relate to it. We're interested because all this financial debauchery means we cant compete on a level playing field unless we spend money we dont have. We're interested because we want it all to stop, we want the league to start punishing the people who devastate local clubs with their actions, we want those people to be stopped.
Im sorry, im just not having people coming in here telling our fans that we're desperate for other clubs demise, and making out we love it all. You just dont get the point!
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And Chris, it makes me laugh the amount of times you call us "touchy" when you are the guy being so defensive and taking such offence when we were merely pointing out the goings on at your club and discussing the possible reasons for the clearout.
Ahhh but it's not just any old club discussing these things, it's Altrincham fans, who quite a lot of almost feed off other teams possible financial problems like vultures. It's like you're trying to save yourself from relegation before the season has even started! I browse quite a lot of forums, and this one is the only one that can't wait to accuse others of not running their football clubs properly as soon as a couple of players are released or transfer listed.
Even when i've presented the real reason why things have happened, i still get smarmy replies and sly digs doubting my knowledge of my own football club, so maybe i can be forgiven for being a little defensive, or even 'touchy'?
So we have a very lively forum, with our history, surely you can understand where this interest in yours and other clubs comes from? We were minutes from going out of Business but unlike many other clubs we genuinely did work ridiculously hard over the years to bring us back into the black. It's quite clear you don't like to be patronised ;) but it is the truth...we did it at the risk of playing with low finances and could still be stuck in the Unibond looking at our playing budget. After three repreives and what can only be described as a bizarre 3 years back in the BSP, surely we cannot be blamed for taking an interest in the goings on at other clubs. It's not like our club is trying to put other clubs in the sh*t like FGR etc, we're just discussing as fans. We're not taking an interest because we want you to be next years rescue package, we're interested because we actually did do it the proper way and unless others do the same, this league will continue to make a fool of itself.
I didn't mean to have a go at you, but we can't be accused of being "touchy" when you have just admitted it is your attitude. I'll be honest, I don't have a clue whether your club is sacking people because they could be in trouble or because they genuinely do want to start again. But as you are a fan of Cambridge, it can be very easy to dismiss the possibility of financial difficulty. I deeply hope you're not in trouble but from 17th to the play-off final in one year suggests you may have spent beyond your means like so many before. You will now tell me that it is all down to a good manager and all the money/sponsorship you received this year of course :D
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And Chris, it makes me laugh the amount of times you call us "touchy" when you are the guy being so defensive and taking such offence when we were merely pointing out the goings on at your club and discussing the possible reasons for the clearout.
Ahhh but it's not just any old club discussing these things, it's Altrincham fans, who quite a lot of almost feed off other teams possible financial problems like vultures. It's like you're trying to save yourself from relegation before the season has even started! I browse quite a lot of forums, and this one is the only one that can't wait to accuse others of not running their football clubs properly as soon as a couple of players are released or transfer listed.
Even when i've presented the real reason why things have happened, i still get smarmy replies and sly digs doubting my knowledge of my own football club, so maybe i can be forgiven for being a little defensive, or even 'touchy'?
Sorry, but if this is all too much for you then you can stop coming on here to read it all and comment.
Of course we're interested in financial affairs of other clubs, its become an important part of our footballing matters unfortunately. We're not interested because we want them to give us a lifeline, we're interested because we've been there and come back and shown how a club should be run, we relate to it. We're interested because all this financial debauchery means we cant compete on a level playing field unless we spend money we dont have. We're interested because we want it all to stop, we want the league to start punishing the people who devastate local clubs with their actions, we want those people to be stopped.
Im sorry, im just not having people coming in here telling our fans that we're desperate for other clubs demise, and making out we love it all. You just dont get the point!
Very sensible and pertinent comments.
I agree 100%.
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Sorry, but if this is all too much for you then you can stop coming on here to read it all and comment.
Of course we're interested in financial affairs of other clubs, its become an important part of our footballing matters unfortunately. We're not interested because we want them to give us a lifeline, we're interested because we've been there and come back and shown how a club should be run, we relate to it. We're interested because all this financial debauchery means we cant compete on a level playing field unless we spend money we dont have. We're interested because we want it all to stop, we want the league to start punishing the people who devastate local clubs with their actions, we want those people to be stopped.
Im sorry, im just not having people coming in here telling our fans that we're desperate for other clubs demise, and making out we love it all. You just dont get the point!
But thats the thing, you do have certain select fans who do love it when another team goes to the wall. You only have to read the conferenceforum for five minutes to see that. Plenty of snidy comments and digs at other teams, and it smacks of desperation and is nothing short of cringeworthy. If those fans could forward their point in an understandable, similarly eloquent way as you have done above, then maybe myself and others wouldn't think that.
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Probably going to get Peaked into oblivion for this but I can see that to some people a small minority of our fans may appear to have a slightly 'holier than thou' attitude toward other clubs.
Not all clubs release players or have financial problems because of rampant overspending, we don't know everything about all the other Clubs in BSP and whilst I'll admit that every club has its morons when a normally sensible fan of another club comes on here and advises us that, so far as they are aware the problems are either not financial or if they are financial then they're not a result of irresponsible spending I think that we should extend to them the courtesy of accepting what they say.
We seem to get steamed up enough when people post things about us that we believe not to be true.
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Can't see what is wrong in the fans of one team commenting on the make up of another team they will be playing next season espedcially when that team has just had a succesful season, just missed out on promotion and offloads a load of it's players where you'd expect that club to strengthen..........................
Confguide is full of Grays will be next, big time charlie club fans upset coz they can't compete with a pub team.
But with such a history of clubs going to the wall I think you can't help musing who will be next every time a club shows the signs...one of which is a slashing of their playing squad.
Hopefully this is just Cambridge cutting their cloth and spending within their means to avoid being next in which case I salute them and surely they should be applauded.
Having been reprieved 3 times....c'mon.....we are going to look on with bemusement as yet another club is bound to hit the wall come May next year.
Having had our problems and come through them we are the dreaded committed ex smoker shaking our head and saying when will they learn from ours and others mistakes.....I'm sure fans of the other fallen clubs will likewise be incredulous every time another club makes exactly the same financial mismanagement with all the usual signs.
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We seem to get steamed up enough when people post things about us that we believe not to be true.
We also get steamed up when people slate our away support. I think people were jumping down Vessey's throat for this, not his correction of fact on this thread. I applaud Camebridge for their approach. In many ways I wish alty would throw the sink at staying up for a season and then pull in the reigns if it doesnt work out.
I think people view our pride in the way Altrincham FC is run in the wrong way.
Besides we are holier than them. We are Altrincham FC, divine intervention is the only remaining explanation for 3 reprieves.
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Its threads like this that highlight to me how important it is that we perform better on the field this season and stay up on our football merit and not because of other teams woes.
I still believe however we cant be held accountable as a club if other teams risk there own survival chances by spending more than they get in revenue.
Its pretty simple maths really Revenue into the club = Outgoings spent by the club
If only football was run like that at every level we would see real competition.
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Its threads like this that highlight to me how important it is that we perform better on the field this season and stay up on our football merit and not because of other teams woes.
I still believe however we cant be held accountable as a club if other teams risk there own survival chances by spending more than they get in revenue.
Its pretty simple maths really Revenue into the club = Outgoings spent by the club
If only football was run like that at every level we would see real competition.
The scary thing is that there appears to be no let up in the amount of money being thrown around by clubs at this level. If the latest figures being paid by Northwich are to be believed it really is a question of when and not if they find themselves in trouble again. It's utter stupidity.
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Its threads like this that highlight to me how important it is that we perform better on the field this season and stay up on our football merit and not because of other teams woes.
I still believe however we cant be held accountable as a club if other teams risk there own survival chances by spending more than they get in revenue.
Its pretty simple maths really Revenue into the club = Outgoings spent by the club
If only football was run like that at every level we would see real competition.
The scary thing is that there appears to be no let up in the amount of money being thrown around by clubs at this level. If the latest figures being paid by Northwich are to be believed it really is a question of when and not if they find themselves in trouble again. It's utter stupidity.
Your right; lets just hope though that we can pay it no attention and finish out of the bottom 4
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From the BBC: "Wolleaston makes Rushden switch.
Wolleaston initially joined United on non-contract terms (Getty)
Cambridge United midfielder Rob Wolleaston has joined Rushden & Diamonds for an undisclosed fee.
Wolleaston, 28, joined the U's from Oxford United in 2006 and made 52 appearances for the club last season.
The former Chelsea trainee becomes the seventh player to leave the Abbey in the last month."