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Title: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Unemployed Coalminer on May 09, 2008, 10:25:22 PM
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Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: bigcol on May 09, 2008, 10:34:14 PM
Quick phone Max Clifford, I'm sure there's PR value in that!
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: sHAWSHAY on May 09, 2008, 10:56:22 PM
Pathetic, its people like you who dont deserve a football club.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Sarf London Alty on May 09, 2008, 11:05:46 PM
Sorry, yes I know it's a tragic day for Halifax and your support will be gutted right now and for a few weeks but this is the Altrincham forum for Altrincham fans, while we can sympathise with your plight (as we have sailed pretty close to the wind in the recent past) it's not our bag to dress in black and indulge in your wake. We are happy (yes also embarrased) that we are here for another year but we have no need to apologise for the long term and repeated financial shambles at another club. Let me see, Vics, Wrexham and Mansfield or Alfeton, Gateshead and Workington.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Timperley The Best on May 09, 2008, 11:13:36 PM
i agree with the halifax fan a bit out of order to say least
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: shaymen down under on May 09, 2008, 11:27:11 PM
cmon mate, i am a town fan, and have been on this messageboard to keep u updated, and give my view on how things might work out, ive not been abusive, and have engaged in healthy conversations and banter on this forum with your fans. I know its an alty forum, and you were probably doing it for a small giggle. But could u underastand how you would feel, if we did that to u.
And especially at this time, when its still so raw with everyone involved. No Hard feelings towards you, but as you can imagine this is like a death in the family to the loyall 1000 of halifax town, please dont take the mickey just yet.

P.S. Just to let you know i moved over from australia(born n bred in oz) to come and watch my team, so its hit me pretty bad. not sayng it hasnt hit other town fans worse, but as a26yr old, upping sticks 12,000km to follow your club, its f**king torture at the moment
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Timperley The Best on May 09, 2008, 11:29:31 PM
shayman down under you have my and many alty fans utmost sympathy
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: PJ_ALTY.FC on May 09, 2008, 11:30:15 PM
lol absolute class ! love it
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Wilmslow Alty on May 10, 2008, 12:30:59 AM
Yup, bit close to the bone for Halifax fans.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Ballers on May 10, 2008, 12:32:21 AM
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For f**ks sake, Don't be a cock all your life, you dick.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Nasha on May 10, 2008, 02:45:22 AM
Even when pissed (celebrating a mates birthday, though I had mention a reprieve once or twice!!!), I find the joke in bad taste. I do feel for Halifax fans. Hopefully next season we can stay up on merit and don't have to feel guilty for staying up (12 months ago I didn't feel guilty cos Boston cheated their way to the league in the first place).
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Unemployed Coalminer on May 10, 2008, 03:59:13 AM
Why feel gulity? Of course it's sad for fans of Halifax Town, but it's hardly the fault of Altriincham FC or the club's fans that this has happened. If Halifax had been run this season on a budget they could afford they may well have finished bottom of the league and your heart wouldn't be bleeding then. Don't forget that Altrincham FC once faced a winding up order over unpaid tax but the directors chose to repay the debt in full (with the help of money raised by fans) and accept setting a realistic budget until it was.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: SW on May 10, 2008, 04:08:57 AM
Agreed UC but think about how the Fax fans are feeling just now, they also have no forum I believe as its been closed, and not unexpected to find a few on here,.

There but for the grace of God etc........

Best Wishes to Halifax Town 2008.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Bob on May 10, 2008, 06:28:21 AM
Why feel gulity? Of course it's sad for fans of Halifax Town, but it's hardly the fault of Altriincham FC or the club's fans that this has happened. If Halifax had been run this season on a budget they could afford they may well have finished bottom of the league and your heart wouldn't be bleeding then. Don't forget that Altrincham FC once faced a winding up order over unpaid tax but the directors chose to repay the debt in full (with the help of money raised by fans) and accept setting a realistic budget until it was.
You're absolutely right.  None of what happened to Halifax is of Alty's doing.  I don't feel guilty about their problems, although I don't feel remotely like celebrating anything either.

But the people at Halifax who are probably suffering the most are the hard core fans who have seen their club effectively die.  I can imagine the gossip elsewhere now - "alty are staying up again and they're mocking Halifax".  There's already a lot less goodwill towards Alty over another reprieve (not our doing I know) and I just think your picture touched an extremely pretty raw nerve at the moment, over an issue where we have benefited the most.  A bit of humility is in order at the moment.

I hope Halifax will learn from this and bounce back to be a stronger, better run club.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: gazwarrington on May 10, 2008, 07:52:20 AM
To be fair the UC would have done a pic to take the mick out of Alty if it was us in the sh*t so don't take it personally Halifax Fans.

As said HEADS UP
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: matthx on May 10, 2008, 09:42:16 AM
What a sad state it is that even though you end up in the relegation zone every season you escape. Sad sad sad!
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: radcliffe alty on May 10, 2008, 09:51:04 AM
To be fair, UC is probably just trying to cheer himself up from his devastation at not getting BSN football at Alty next season.

And he nicked it from Conferenceforum.

Good luck Halifax fans - you'll need it, but it's not the end. Make another club to be proud of!
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: gazwarrington on May 10, 2008, 09:56:24 AM
What a sad state it is that even though you end up in the relegation zone every season you escape. Sad sad sad!

Yeah how dare with run our football club properly.. I'll hang my head in shame for the rest of my time supporting Alty... Terrible state of affairs.

One day people will get it that teams are obviously gaining an advantage by paying more than they can afford... But until then we have to put up with complete barmpots with comments like this.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: matthx on May 10, 2008, 10:06:15 AM
You should not have even been in the Conference this year mate. Do you not feel a bit ashamed that despite getting lower points tallies than other clubs you still end up playing in the same league. Relegation is there to weed out rubbish clubs from the league!
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Unemployed Coalminer on May 10, 2008, 10:26:38 AM
To be fair, UC is probably just trying to cheer himself up from his devastation at not getting BSN football at Alty next season.

And he nicked it from Conferenceforum.

Good luck Halifax fans - you'll need it, but it's not the end. Make another club to be proud of!

I'm even more gutted after last night. No trip to Stalybridge.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Unemployed Coalminer on May 10, 2008, 10:28:20 AM
You should not have even been in the Conference this year mate. Do you not feel a bit ashamed that despite getting lower points tallies than other clubs you still end up playing in the same league. Relegation is there to weed out rubbish clubs from the league!

Very true. 2003 wasn't it?
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: RedhillAlty on May 10, 2008, 10:36:51 AM
We got no sympathy at all from Halifax fans in 1981 when they avoided relegation from the old Division 4 at our expence through a sytem that was unjust and undemocratic.
All we are doing now is accepting a situation to our advantage, we are doing nothing wrong, like we they did nothing wrong in 1981 when were Champions but were not promoted.
The only difference is that Halifax's current situation is their own fault not ours, but in 1980 and 1980 we were dealt the short straw through no fault of our own.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: altyf on May 10, 2008, 10:39:50 AM
You should not have even been in the Conference this year mate. Do you not feel a bit ashamed that despite getting lower points tallies than other clubs you still end up playing in the same league. Relegation is there to weed out rubbish clubs from the league!

...and these days to weed out the overspenders who can't run their club properly. Most on this forum will have complete sympathy for the Halifax fans after what we went through some years ago, but not many will have sympathy with the club because they simply cheated.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Saughall Robin on May 10, 2008, 10:41:34 AM
We got no sympathy at all from Halifax in 1981 when they avoided relegation from the old Division 4 at our expence through a sytem that was unjust and undemocratic.

well said. Have a 'G'
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Jezza on May 10, 2008, 10:51:31 AM
I'm afraid it's people like mathx that cause me to have little sympathy.

Sincere good luck to any friendly genuine Halifax fans who are prepared to take this on the chin without blaming everyone else and coming on here outraged because we happened to finish 4th bottom....to the neanderthals, well comments like you may take 50 fans to droylsden have come back and succinctly bitten you on your backside haven't they?

If it was alty going bust we'd have all sorts of dark humour on here.

And what is sad sad sad sadder? being in a position to get a reprieve or being in Halifax's position?

As A TRUE lover of football and big grounds, league floodlights etc etc it is very sad when a club goes to the wall....but they'll be back and really they should be saying this is a good thing at last able to shrug ofgf the debt forever and build a fans club with no egotistical chairman running up big debts....the Unibond isn't all bad, and they'll have more fun there than wasting away under a burden of debt in the BSP.

Ironically had they survived and run on a proper budget next year they'd be looking at 4th bottom and hoping for a reprieve.

Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Unemployed Coalminer on May 10, 2008, 10:55:26 AM
"the Unibond isn't all bad, and they'll have more fun there than wasting away under a burden of debt in the BSP"

i'm glad it wasn't me that said that!
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: gazwarrington on May 10, 2008, 11:22:40 AM
You should not have even been in the Conference this year mate. Do you not feel a bit ashamed that despite getting lower points tallies than other clubs you still end up playing in the same league. Relegation is there to weed out rubbish clubs from the league!

Please read my post about why we got a lower points total than say Halifax ?l... its gettin boring explaining.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: VofD on May 10, 2008, 01:28:36 PM
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I think UC deserves a LOT OF CREDIT for this post. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Number23 on May 10, 2008, 03:20:14 PM
You should not have even been in the Conference this year mate. Do you not feel a bit ashamed that despite getting lower points tallies than other clubs you still end up playing in the same league. Relegation is there to weed out rubbish clubs from the league!

Why should anyone associated with Alty feel ashamed? What have we done wrong and, more to the point, how would anything we did change the situation for Halifax (or the clubs relegated in previous years)? Even if the Alty demanded to be relegated in accordance with our league position and results that would save Farsley not Halifax.

What do you expect to achieve by having a go at us?
Aren't you ashamed that the people running your club took products and services from local businesses (we'll let you off the tax man) and offered to pay them 2.5% of what they owed?
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Longman on May 10, 2008, 03:22:53 PM
You should not have even been in the Conference this year mate. Do you not feel a bit ashamed that despite getting lower points tallies than other clubs you still end up playing in the same league. Relegation is there to weed out rubbish clubs from the league!

Why should anyone associated with Alty feel ashamed? What have we done wrong and, more to the point, how would anything we did change the situation for Halifax (or the clubs relegated in previous years)? Even if the Alty demanded to be relegated in accordance with our league position and results that would save Farsley not Halifax.

What do you expect to achieve by having a go at us?
Aren't you ashamed that the people running your club took products and services from local businesses (we'll let you off the tax man) and offered to pay them 2.5% of what they owed?

Dead right.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: nimega on May 10, 2008, 04:22:25 PM
If I were a Halifax fan I'd be pretty gutted right now, and as we are the beneficiary for the 2nd season in a row of back office lunacy (3 years ago we shouldn't have been relegated anyway, so our reprieve just righted a wrong) I'd be tempted to have a pop at Alty. I have loads of sympathy for the fans and hope they can bounce back from this. We should never wish this on other clubs, not even the Vics.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: RocketDan on May 10, 2008, 04:26:28 PM
better than his shocking bombay films. I am suprised he hasnt made one yet.
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: Alty365 on May 11, 2008, 03:31:44 AM
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You are a f**king idiot! Where are your brains you insensitive prick?
Title: Re: Sound financial advice for Halifax arrives just too late to save them
Post by: hsmith1 on May 11, 2008, 04:27:02 PM
As i have said before i do feel for Halifax fans i have also said that i would always take a reprive but would hate to see a club go out of business,just because of incompitent directors.Lets enjoy our reprive but remember the Halifax fans.I am posting this in corfu as i just could not stand to wait untill i got back home.