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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Jenga on May 03, 2008, 08:12:37 PM
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I really dont believe we have invited this bunch of hooligans back to Moss Lane for a friendly.
This is one game I WILL NOT be going to - purely out of principle.
A disgrace if you ask me.
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I suppose it's the last chance to have a friendly with them before we play them in a league fixture the year after next.
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I don't tar all FC United fans with the same brush and hope others don't as well.
However the thought of coming face to face again with the group that kicked and punched teenagers means I too will not attend this game.
Another PR own goal.
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I don't tar all FC United fans with the same brush and hope others don't as well.
However the thought of coming face to face again with the group that kicked and punched teenagers means I too will not attend this game.
Another PR own goal.
Agreed there Ecky - dont think I will be attending this game either
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The fact that friendlies have been arranged is surely confirmation, if it wasn't already obvious, that GH is staying on next season. Why the club think playin FCUM so soon after the recent trouble is a good idea I don't know although every club press release Im becoming more and more disillusioned.
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I also will not be attending the match with FSCUM. I'm sure they have some very nice supporters but they also have more than a few dick heads!
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"disillusioned"
I know what you mean >:(
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It's disappointing when it appears that potential bar takings are more significant than principles.
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It's disappointing when it appears that potential bar takings are more significant than principles.
You forget Cult, we are mere "workers" and therefore our principles and/or opinions are of absolutely no importance.
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Although what a FEW people chose to do at the last match between Alty and FCUM is completely out of order, to start moaning and saying you will not be attending the match because of it is slightly pathetic.
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Sub-human Fcum!
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Although what a FEW people chose to do at the last match between Alty and FCUM is completely out of order, to start moaning and saying you will not be attending the match because of it is slightly pathetic.
I think you missed "in your opinion" at the end.
Unless the club are going to have a decent police presence at that match (which I doubt), I am afraid I have no desire to spend 90 minutes of a friendly looking over my shoulder.
Sorry if that offends you.
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i achually went the FCUM game today (playoff final) and there was no trouble causers or anythin i think our game against them in pre season was just a 1 off and in my opinion to not go to the game would be a bit silly
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Although what a FEW people chose to do at the last match between Alty and FCUM is completely out of order, to start moaning and saying you will not be attending the match because of it is slightly pathetic.
I think you missed "in your opinion" at the end.
Unless the club are going to have a decent police presence at that match (which I doubt), I am afraid I have no desire to spend 90 minutes of a friendly looking over my shoulder.
Sorry if that offends you.
fair enough mate but it was only a couple of dick heads at one game and would be a waste of the clubs money for a big police presence.
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Totally disgusted by this, I won't be going.
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Have you just posted on the FC United forum about us crying about it on here?
Not crying about it...just got no desire to experience that kind of atmosphere at a friendly again thanks.
I'm well aware that 99% of FC United games have no trouble at all, with the exception of times when other teams fans try and make a name for themselves.
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Im 50/50.
Its a great chance of gettign 1500+, great for the club. Every team has its own trouble causers, maybe segragation wouldnt be such a bad thing.
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This really is pathetic, ONE thing happened, yes it was out of order and no need, but if some fans are going to do munich, it's going to kick off a bit but like I said it was like 2 drunken idiots which had no right but everyone needs to stop being so immature and get behind alty at the match against FCUM!
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I thought it was a misprint when I saw it on the official website. I was at the last friendly with them and so I shan't be at the next one. Probably the most disappointing thing I've seen connected with Alty for some time and the most obvious example that the people running our club are out of touch with the fans. A complete pisstake.
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As I've just put on your forum..the Munich thing was utter sh*t to try and cover it up.
We scored a third.
Some kids (not all regular Alty fans) did a stupid easy clap
The FC United lads behind the goal took exception to what they saw as Alty taking the piss and charged at them, and punched a least three very scared teenagers.
I know this because I was stood in between the two parties and could see exactly what was going to happen straight after the third goal, as it was being discussed by the FC lads.
The majority of FC United fans are decent people I am sure, but I did not like what I saw that night.
Yeah it was only minor but it enough for me. The fellas were proper hard lads as well..not bits of kids.
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Scared the f**k out of me Ecky. Enough to make me not renew my season ticket to be honest. If this is the best we can do, it is just not worth it.
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As I've just put on your forum..the Munich thing was utter sh*t to try and cover it up.
We scored a third.
Some kids (not all regular Alty fans) did a stupid easy clap
The FC United lads behind the goal took exception to what they saw as Alty taking the piss and charged at them, and punched a least three very scared teenagers.
I know this because I was stood in between the two parties and could see exactly what was going to happen straight after the third goal, as it was being discussed by the FC lads.
The majority of FC United fans are decent people I am sure, but I did not like what I saw that night.
Yeah it was only minor but it enough for me. The fellas were proper hard lads as well..not bits of kids.
totally fair enough but it shouldnt stop people of going and you shouldnt waste your clubs money on extra police but again what you say is totally fair
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What a disgrace, I am convinced that the board or graham said that we would never be letting them into moss lane again, I too who witnessed this disgrace will most definately not be attending, i am flabbergasted, we dont need the money that much.
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From the Evening News....
21/ 7/2006
FC UNITED have vowed to find the supporter who began the crowd trouble at Altrincham that has strained relationships between the two clubs.
A minor scuffle broke out at the Golf Road End of the ground during the friendly on Wednesday night, and appeared to be caused by a FC United fan, who was ejected by stewards.
Altrincham reacted strongly to the incident, saying it is unlikely they would want to play FC again, and are threatening to prevent the use of Moss Lane for any games involving the rebels.
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I don't think there'll be any violence at this years game, as they will be more use to not winning, they were unbeaten (or only lost one game) last time.
However, it is a risk and so i think this game has to be segregated.
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If a pre season game needs to be segregated then the game should not be played. Fcum played a friendly at AFC Wimbledon recently, it was wisely segregated as FCUM tw*ts spent the afternoon baiting and looking for Chelsea fans,they have still got that element who are exluded from OT.
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If a pre season game needs to be segregated then the game should not be played. Fcum played a friendly at AFC Wimbledon recently, it was wisely segregated as FCUM tw*ts spent the afternoon baiting and looking for Chelsea fans,they have still got that element who are exluded from OT.
And you my friend want to stop posting utter crap. AFCW and FCUM fans spent 2 days ( some of us 3 ) having the time of our lives. Drank together, strip pub together, supporters game against each other. AFC fans went out their way to accomodate
FC United fans, as we have done in the past and will continue to do so in the future.
Post up the proof of the crap you are spouting or shut the F up and stop trying to drive a wedge in between the fantastic
relationship that us Wombles have built up with FC United over the years.
If FC United, the fans owned club, run by the fans, for the fans, have even half the sense we know they have they'll tell you to stick your friendly up your arse and arrange a friendly with a better deserving club that will welcome them with open arms.
No wonder your fans and club is so disliked throughout the country with people like you.
But then again i suppose to did invent non league football so you have a divine right to try to belittle every other team.
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Bad feeling from both sets of fans provoked from a mere announcement...thuis friendly is now a grudge match already!!!!
Totally predictable.
Could have been avoided with a carefully worded statement mentioning the trouble last time and perhaps suggesting it was in an effort to rebuild relationships and hoping Alty fans are prepared to let by gones be beygones????
Maybe maybe not...we know it was a handful but how are the club going to prevent a couple of idiots turning up again?
You only have to read this to see the arrogant attitude....If FC United, the fans owned club, run by the fans, for the fans, have even half the sense we know they have they'll tell you to stick your friendly up your arse and arrange a friendly with a better deserving club that will welcome them with open arms.....ooooooh how will we ever survive without this friendly????
I think this family club run for families by family men need to think again.
Also Mr laidlar has all our firiendlies dated a year ago!!!!!
The club is falling apart.
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So our club is so disliked because FCUM started a 'scuffle' with our fans, we would prefer not to go and risk the same thing happening again. Our club, basically, is disliked because we are fearing for our own safety. Well said wombleste.
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This is the reason I won't be going and 'another' reason I am annoyed ...
Altrincham reacted strongly to the incident, saying it is unlikely they would want to play FC again, and are threatening to prevent the use of Moss Lane for any games involving the rebels.
On sorry didn't realise you were the big non league club
If FC United, the fans owned club, run by the fans, for the fans, have even half the sense we know they have they'll tell you to stick your friendly up your arse and arrange a friendly with a better deserving club that will welcome them with open arms.
For the record I am not going, and not cos I'm scared, I stayed in the Golf Road End and watched the game last time but because out of principle that I do not think we should have 'welcomed' them back as was said after it happened
For the second time in less that 24hrs .. MISTAKE !
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Don't people understand what forums are? Halifax first and now some guy from AFC Wimbledon falling into the trap.
We have about 900 Alty fans who go most weeks a the moment?
Why would you take the views of one or two as the views of everyone?
I just personally said I won't be going and gave the reasons why.
SW..can you back that statement up because you'll cause no end of borng drivel like the "lovein" stuff above.
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Yes Ecky I can because I was there with my son who used to follow AFCW, now he has wisely chosen Fulham instead. I live two miles from Kingsmeadow and have attended many games there. At the inaugural fans club game between the two teams the atmosphere was generally very good, however the usual assortment of trouble causers were around as I stated, and Wimbledon segregated the game too.I'm sure "womblest" enjoyed his day and mixed with the FCUM fans who as with all teams are probably fine as a majority, I imagine the minority we are all talking about were unnoticed by him.
Funny to me that an AFCW fan just happens to be on our forum at 6am though isn't it?
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Why would you take the views of one or two as the views of everyone?
Precisely, so ask yourself why are some clowns on here making sweeping statments about FC United because of 'one or two' trouble causers at a friendly which took place nearly 2 years ago?
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No idea...I didn't.
Jesus I'm so bored of this already and it was only announced at half ten last night.
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I was not there for the last game and i wont be there for this one either
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Spoke to a couple of mates who follow Garforth when I went to Selby Town yesterday. They said when they played FCUM last weekend they were an absolute bunch of arseholes looking for trouble from start to finish, and that the overwhelming majority were some of the most unpleasant people they have ever experienced in non-league football. They said they "hoped they beat Skem" so that "they wouldn't have to play them next season" which sounds like fair comment considering some of the scuffling and arrests that were made at the game between the two.
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As has been previously stated this, and the Halifax creditor thread will just go on and on and on and on
My own opinion is we shouldn't play the FC game, segragation for a friendly ? Bar takings first ?
The AGM can't come to soon, either way Halifax and ourselves should then just let it be !
The report on the website about today's NL daily (is that a paper ?) is a funny one, why a statement would be released criticising Halifax and warning of a reprieve for us again is a strange one, is it a pre-warning ?
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It might be pointless anyway, if enough FCUM fans read what is being posted they may just drink at the pub instead to spite us.
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I can't believe some of the lies and drivel being posted on here.
FC fans wandering around at Wimbledon looking foir Chelsea fans? Utter crap. I was there for that first friendly and it was a beautiful friendly day. The police segregated us, but there was no need because we mixed with the Wombles and many fans established friendships which last to this day. Their fans regularly post on the FC forum, and vice versa.
The incident at Moss lane a couple of years ago was a disgrace, but it was dealt with. The club ended up banning the individuals responsible, and he was also warned about his conduct by other supporters. No bother since.
To tar the thousands who follow FC regularly with that brush is ridiculous. No doubt Alty fans are all saints?
Someone mentioned Garforth. The truth is that a group of Leeds hooligans turned up looking for mither - if you don't believe it look on the "Leeds Service Crew" website where they were plotting their visit all week. They were chased away, and Garforth fans were apologising for the fact that those idiots spoiled what was othersiwe a great day, again with Garforth and FC fans mingling happily.
When clubs are welcoming, they get the same back.
It's a shame that few smacked arses among your support are trying to soil what could be a good relationship between the clubs, such as we have with Radcliffe.
By all means have a pop, but try to stick to the truth rather than hearsay and invention, eh?
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Spoke to a couple of mates who follow Garforth when I went to Selby Town yesterday. They said when they played FCUM last weekend they were an absolute bunch of arseholes looking for trouble from start to finish, and that the overwhelming majority were some of the most unpleasant people they have ever experienced in non-league football. They said they "hoped they beat Skem" so that "they wouldn't have to play them next season" which sounds like fair comment considering some of the scuffling and arrests that were made at the game between the two.
More complete lies. Absolutely pathetic.
The trouble at Garforth was caused by Leeds United turning up. Hence the fact there were so many police on duty at the game.
Still, i'm sure everyone involved with your club are complete angels aren't they?
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The trouble at Garforth was due to Leeds turning up but FC had a few more than willing to get involved, the same with most clube with decent support. Dont think any of this is relevant to Alty though and shouldnt be discussed here.
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To tar the thousands who follow FC regularly with that brush is ridiculous. No doubt Alty fans are all saints?
Yes i think all Alty fans are saints. Certainly the best supporters i have ever met.
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Spoke to a couple of mates who follow Garforth when I went to Selby Town yesterday. They said when they played FCUM last weekend they were an absolute bunch of arseholes looking for trouble from start to finish, and that the overwhelming majority were some of the most unpleasant people they have ever experienced in non-league football. They said they "hoped they beat Skem" so that "they wouldn't have to play them next season" which sounds like fair comment considering some of the scuffling and arrests that were made at the game between the two.
More complete lies. Absolutely pathetic.
The trouble at Garforth was caused by Leeds United turning up. Hence the fact there were so many police on duty at the game.
Still, i'm sure everyone involved with your club are complete angels aren't they?
Erm well that post was posted by a York City fan so are you refering to our club or York's ?
Either way it's all getting a little silly now.
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Erm well that post was posted by a York City fan so are you refering to our club or York's ?
Either way it's all getting a little silly now.
More a general comment at this entire thread
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Yes i think all Alty fans are saints. Certainly the best supporters i have ever met.
Oh dear.
Seems like gateshead fans don't agree. Taken from their forum:
Personally I feel the Altrincham fans are the worst, they have always given us Gateshead supporters trouble when we go down to the Robins and the officials have treated us like kids at times. They think they're a really big club but really they're not.
I think the word to sum them up is "arrogance".
Personally I'll be pushing for FCUM to pull out of this friendly, cos we don't want to mix with your hooligan scum fans.
Well, some of you started the generalisations
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Yes i think all Alty fans are saints. Certainly the best supporters i have ever met.
Oh dear.
Seems like gateshead fans don't agree. Taken from their forum:
Personally I feel the Altrincham fans are the worst, they have always given us Gateshead supporters trouble when we go down to the Robins and the officials have treated us like kids at times. They think they're a really big club but really they're not.
I think the word to sum them up is "arrogance".
Personally I'll be pushing for FCUM to pull out of this friendly, cos we don't want to mix with your hooligan scum fans.
Well, some of you started the generalisations
the last time we played gateshead at moss lane was indeed a black day for the heed,a 4-0 win six years ago infront of 548, both gateshead supporters still live with the mental scars of that defeat to this day.
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I have attended FCUM matches and they did seem perfectly nice, really trying to get involved with the community.
I for one will be at the friendly and you can prove your point far better by going and being the nicest supporters we've ever seen than by posting on here. I'm sure that you will and this thread can be entirely forgotten.
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I suppose it's the last chance to have a friendly with them before we play them in a league fixture the year after next.
They might even be in a league above us 12 months from now....!
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I suppose it's the last chance to have a friendly with them before we play them in a league fixture the year after next.
They might even be in a league above us 12 months from now....!
FCUM wont be above us 12 months from now, they wont be allowed into the conference set up,they dont have the relevent infastructure.Clubs need to have their own ground of at Least B grade standard or have at least a ten year lease in place at a stadium of at least B grade stadard, how are they going to achieve that in 12 months should they have another sucessfull season and finish in a promotion place?. Whose going goign to offer them a long term ground share with decent enough stadium?
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Maybe Mike Connett would offer them a home. Wouldn't need a lot of paint to change the sign.
"Welcome to the Marstons Arena, home of Manchester United reserves, FC United of Manchester and Northwich Victoria FC."
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I'm going to miss the first three friendlies due to the fact i'm at Benicassim festival in Spain, Bradford City will be interesting though, unless they play their reserve team.
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am i right in saying it was two fcum fans who started the trouble , yes out of order but time to move on , yes they have a ldish element to their support but i havent got a problem with them.
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am i right in saying it was two fcum fans who started the trouble , yes out of order but time to move on , yes they have a ldish element to their support but i havent got a problem with them.
Totally agree with you mate, i dont think there will be any trouble this time and think that the game last year was a 1 off
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am i right in saying it was two fcum fans who started the trouble , yes out of order but time to move on , yes they have a ldish element to their support but i havent got a problem with them.
Totally agree with you mate, i dont think there will be any trouble this timeand think that the game last year was a 1 off
thank you although we are in a minority it seems
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am i right in saying it was two fcum fans who started the trouble , yes out of order but time to move on , yes they have a ldish element to their support but i havent got a problem with them.
Totally agree with you mate, i dont think there will be any trouble this timeand think that the game last year was a 1 off
On the evidence of this thread the lack of trouble will be entirely down to the non-attendance of most Alty supporters. Unless the visiting fans wish to cause trouble amongst themselves in which case who knows what could happen!
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I'm still chuckling about the so called Wimbledon fan who stumbled across this thread on an Altrincham forum at 6 this morning, despite AFCW being promoted via the play offs yesterday and there being no posts for hours on their own usually seriously busy forum.
As an aside anyway it gives me a better standard to watch when I can't get to Alty games.
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I'm still chuckling about the so called Wimbledon fan who stumbled across this thread on an Altrincham forum at 6 this morning, despite AFCW being promoted via the play offs yesterday and there being no posts for hours on their own usually seriously busy forum.
Don't get too carried away by your conspiracy theory. If you look at the FCUM forum, you will find AFCW fans are regular visitors, and pleanty of Wombles have been on congratulating FC on promotion.
There is a link to this thread on that forum.
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am i right in saying it was two fcum fans who started the trouble , yes out of order but time to move on , yes they have a ldish element to their support but i havent got a problem with them.
100% right
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This is a friendly that will bring much needed money for the club attempting to get promotion. Unfortunately, i cannot believe that the club that promotes itself on honesty, openness and listening to supporters would make such a crazy decision, bearing in mind what happened last time.
As i will be missing the first few games due to holidaying, i would have attempted to go to some friendly matches. This game i will not attend.
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On the evidence of this thread the lack of trouble will be entirely down to the non-attendance of most Alty supporters. Unless the visiting fans wish to cause trouble amongst themselves in which case who knows what could happen!
Will still having a god actually achieve anything?
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I'm still chuckling about the so called Wimbledon fan who stumbled across this thread on an Altrincham forum at 6 this morning, despite AFCW being promoted via the play offs yesterday and there being no posts for hours on their own usually seriously busy forum.
Don't get too carried away by your conspiracy theory. If you look at the FCUM forum, you will find AFCW fans are regular visitors, and pleanty of Wombles have been on congratulating FC on promotion.
There is a link to this thread on that forum.
Yes ok but having just visited the AFCW forum there has been no mention of you lot at all, so who is kidding who now? Perhaps you might like to post a link on here to the posts you refer to and also enlighten us to the name of the AFCW forum because if you don't know it we will see.
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I am totally disallusioned with this whole discussion. I use to go and see Altrincham in the 60's, as a 13 yr old and as a season ticket holder sit in the main stand, I remember how friendly the club was - and how I was looked after. I wasn't allowed to go and see Manchester United - because my parents thought there was too much trouble - little did they know about the seventies. I moved away from Sale, and only went to odd games at Old Trafford. The Glazzer situtaution convinced me that Man U was not the club I remember. Since being a member of FC from the start, I have really enjoyed my footie - great club's to go too and great opposition supporters. It saddens me that some iddiots have soured a potential good relationship with a club I have fond memories of, I didn't go to the friendly last seson, so don't know what happened. I did recently go to Garforth town where some so called LEEDS idiots turned up - scaring old & young, so I do know how some of you must feel.
I would say to you all give FC fans another chance - I personally would like to see us ground share, giving my money to ALTY, rather than to BURY. I hope all those that say the will boycott the game against FC will change their minds - and have a great day. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE - do come.
John FC, and old ALTY fan. ;D
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Sorry mate, if Glaser meant utd where not the club you remembered then you should have remembered alty and helped us out with your support- FCUM are not born out of non league principles they will no doubt be a league club soon and their support are ex league fans that will contain a fair few arrogant up for it nutters-
If FCUMs fans had gone and supported their local team ie Droylesdon ,Alty, Staleybridge, Bury ,Stockport etc they would have enjoyed it better
FCUM are not the same as AFC Wimbledon- either stick with Utd or support your local team and keep them in existance
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Sorry mate, if Glaser meant utd where not the club you remembered then you should have remembered alty and helped us out with your support- FCUM are not born out of non league principles they will no doubt be a league club soon and their support are ex league fans that will contain a fair few arrogant up for it nutters-
If FCUMs fans had gone and supported their local team ie Droylesdon ,Alty, Staleybridge, Bury ,Stockport etc they would have enjoyed it better
FCUM are not the same as AFC Wimbledon- either stick with Utd or support your local team and keep them in existance
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Yes ok but having just visited the AFCW forum there has been no mention of you lot at all, so who is kidding who now? Perhaps you might like to post a link on here to the posts you refer to and also enlighten us to the name of the AFCW forum because if you don't know it we will see.
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I think you need to re-read what I said. I said the Dons fan aill have picked up this thread by visiting the FC forum, which svereal of them have done. Here's the link:
http://fcumforum.org.uk/mainforum/viewtopic.php?t=87373&highlight=wimbledon
I would echo some of the other posters on here, and say that what happened in the past has been dealt with, and we should move on. To tar all FC fans with the same brush due to the stupid actions of one or two individuals, is ridiculous.
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If FCUMs fans had gone and supported their local team ie Droylesdon ,Alty, Staleybridge, Bury ,Stockport etc they would have enjoyed it better
So you'd have been happy if 2,500 fans of us had turned up at Alty, and said we wanted to run the club our way? That was the whole point of FC - peoploe who opposed Glazer and the other ills of top-level football A) wanted to stay together and B) wanted "our club, our rules", as the slogan of the time said.
Can't see why you have a problem with that, given the REAL problems which are wrecking football.
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I know where your coming from with the fan run club and being ripped off following man utd, but the problems are-
your 2500 could be spread across local clubs supporting clubs with avg 100 years of history and real connection with the local towns keeping them going
The FCUM connection to Utd is very thin- you can have the colours etc but man utd have the history- you are a brand new team and the players etc are in the main playing for the money- I except some may be Utd fans- but the idea will be diluted as you progrees up the leagues buying new players to compete and more than likely being the big spenders
But the main thing is each promotion denies teams with long historys the chance of promotions and potential progression up the leagues
basically I'd like a proud club like alty to get any locals that are fed up with premier league footy to come along- if we could avg 1500 wed be over the moon
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I know where your coming from with the fan run club and being ripped off following man utd, but the problems are-
your 2500 could be spread across local clubs supporting clubs with avg 100 years of history and real connection with the local towns keeping them going
The FCUM connection to Utd is very thin- you can have the colours etc but man utd have the history- you are a brand new team and the players etc are in the main playing for the money- I except some may be Utd fans- but the idea will be diluted as you progrees up the leagues buying new players to compete and more than likely being the big spenders
But the main thing is each promotion denies teams with long historys the chance of promotions and potential progression up the leagues
basically I'd like a proud club like alty to get any locals that are fed up with premier league footy to come along- if we could avg 1500 wed be over the moon
Two things:
1) you have some fair points and i agree with some things you say but also disagree
2) Love your user name ;D 8) ;)
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Basil
You have completely ignored the two points I made, being that
A. We wanted to stay together, not spread out and support various teams with whom we had no previous connection or affection.
B. We wanted "our club, our rules" - as I said, would you have been happy at a load of Utd fans turning up at Moss Lane amd demanding Alty did things their way? I thought not, and I don't blame you.
As for United's history, we see it as our history, as well as that of MUFC. We are Utd fans after all.
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Yes ok but having just visited the AFCW forum there has been no mention of you lot at all, so who is kidding who now? Perhaps you might like to post a link on here to the posts you refer to and also enlighten us to the name of the AFCW forum because if you don't know it we will see.
Christ, are you David Icke? They've been on our forum you plantpot. Put it this way - i've never heard anyone else mention any hint of trouble when we've played down at Kingsmeadow. Who knows, maybe you're nothing but a plant who has come on here to spread scurrilous rumours about FC United? Good this conspiracy theory lark, innit?
But the main thing is each promotion denies teams with long historys the chance of promotions and potential progression up the leagues
These clubs with 'long histories' have had a long long time before FC United of Manchester came along to progress up the leagues. Are you suggesting that new clubs shouldn't be allowed to enter non-league football? We have as much right as any other club in the non-league to be where we are
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Except you still haven't got your own ground.
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Except you still haven't got your own ground.
And? We shell out more cash to Bury FC per game to use their place than if we had our own ground, so whats your point?
I'm looking forward to playing our cup games at your ground next season anyway
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Are we being possibly a little short sighted. This is linked into a lot of the other current threads.
Yes there was an incident at the last friendly. Yes FCUM acted after the incident. End of matter.
As a club we need to attract more revenue, to fund a bigger playing budget, to climb up the league etc etc. To not play FCUM who will no doubt bring a good number of supporters with thim does not make business sense.
Surely we should be welcoming them with open arms. If they wanted to play at ML on a regular basis why not. Take their money and use it wisely instead of moaning on about having no money to fund the playing staff etc etc.
No doubt many of you will disagree !!
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Can't see why you have a problem with that, given the REAL problems which are wrecking football.
I can't see why you can't see you are creating a whole new mini Utd with the all same problems you left for.....you'll all have to sit down, pay a premium home and away to watch your side and kick off times will be changed to accomodate policing and TV.
Then you'll find you struggle to compete at BSP level and decide to go public...................
On your rise to the conference you don't care how many clubs are trampled or lose out in your wake.
Can't you watch a club without dictating everything??? and what do you dictate?.... if a few fans don't like a FCUM manager or player you have no say.....give it a poor season and watch the infighting.
And your arrogance of aren't we doing everyone a favour is breathtaking and misguided.
I'd rather get money from city reserves frankly....I don't think I'm alone.
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I can't see why you can't see you are creating a whole new mini Utd with the all same problems you left for.....you'll all have to sit down, pay a premium home and away to watch your side and kick off times will be changed to accomodate policing and TV.
Then you'll find you struggle to compete at BSP level and decide to go public...................
On your rise to the conference you don't care how many clubs are trampled or lose out in your wake.
Can't you watch a club without dictating everything??? and what do you dictate?.... if a few fans don't like a FCUM manager or player you have no say.....give it a poor season and watch the infighting.
And your arrogance of aren't we doing everyone a favour is breathtaking and misguided.
I'd rather get money from city reserves frankly....I don't think I'm alone.
Don't really know where to begin with this one, other than to say that it's getting tiresome having to counter the same old, badly-thought-out arguments.
The whole point of FCUM is that WE, the supporters/owners, have the say. Of course there will be infighting, there already has been to some extent, but we are adult enough to thrash it out and then vote on it, and then mature enough to mjove on if things don't go your way.
If that means we take decisions which mean we struggle at BSP level, so be it. We have loved it at NWCL and Unibond levels, and there arte plenty more than happy to remain here. The obsession with "rising up the leagues" tends to be among non-FC fans.
Who are these clubs we are "trampling" on exactly? I don't see it that we are doing everyone a favour at all, but most clubs we have come up against see us as a godsend simply in terms of revenue. If they get something out of it as well as us, that's great. I don't see where arrogance comes into that.
"Can't you watch a club without dictating everything" WTF are you on about? What are we dictating? The future of the club we own?
I'll stop here because you seemed to be getting delirious.
It's nice to see quite a few Alty fans on here happy to draw a line under the incident of a couple of years ago, as well as the blinkered hatemongers.
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I don't see it that we are doing everyone a favour at all, but most clubs we have come up against see us as a godsend simply in terms of revenue.
ermmmmmmm...oh yeah i see.
shakes head.
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I don't see it that we are doing everyone a favour at all, but most clubs we have come up against see us as a godsend simply in terms of revenue.
ermmmmmmm...oh yeah i see.
shakes head.
So that isn't a fact, then?
Don't take my word for it, go and ask the clubs. I don't see it as a reason to be smug or arrogant, it's just a fact of life when you have a club with a large away following in leagues which are not used to such large numbers.
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sorry so are you now saying you do think you are doing everyone a favour?
Coz you said you didnt.
shakes head again.
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Can't see why you have a problem with that, given the REAL problems which are wrecking football.
I can't see why you can't see you are creating a whole new mini Utd with the all same problems you left for.....you'll all have to sit down, pay a premium home and away to watch your side and kick off times will be changed to accomodate policing and TV.
Then you'll find you struggle to compete at BSP level and decide to go public...................
On your rise to the conference you don't care how many clubs are trampled or lose out in your wake.
Can't you watch a club without dictating everything??? and what do you dictate?.... if a few fans don't like a FCUM manager or player you have no say.....give it a poor season and watch the infighting.
And your arrogance of aren't we doing everyone a favour is breathtaking and misguided.
I'd rather get money from city reserves frankly....I don't think I'm alone.
I wish i'd have read this before I bothered typing out a reply to you on the other thread. What a plantpot you are.
"Decide to go public" - utterly laughable!
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sorry so are you now saying you do think you are doing everyone a favour?
Coz you said you didnt.
shakes head again.
If you can quote where I said I think we're doing everyone a favour, please do so. We are not in this to do other clubs favours, but it is a happy by-product that other clubs have benefited from the large following we have.
Or do you have proof to the contrary?
Perhaps if you stopped shaking your head, your brain might function long enough to realise what I am saying