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Title: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: ManagementGuru on February 27, 2008, 01:53:37 PM
It's not that I'm in a good mood or anything after last nights heroics, but does anyone else believe that 46 points is a realistic total for this season.  I know this represents 18 points from 13 games and therefore well above what we've achieved to date, but if we can recover our home form and continue picking up points away its not impossible.

And probably neccessary!
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: louise1925 on February 27, 2008, 02:05:24 PM
That's 6 wins - sh*t!
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Narcissist on February 27, 2008, 02:18:06 PM
Had a similar coversation this morning and came up with 42 points.

I think this is realistic and also enough to keep us up just about!

Its going down to the last day again, hold on to your undercrackers!
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: ManagementGuru on February 27, 2008, 02:21:06 PM
The must wins are Halifax and Stafford at home and Weymouth away.

The can wins are Salisbury and Crawley at home and Kidderminster and Grays away

The write offs are Torquay at home, Exeter, Aldershot and Burton away

Which leaves Forest Green at home and Ebbsfleet away as other potential sources of points
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: James Black on February 27, 2008, 02:37:21 PM
y r they impossible to win them games against ebsfleet and Aldershot. HELLO we have just got a point against the second best team in da league.
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: ManagementGuru on February 27, 2008, 02:52:05 PM
HELLO
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Longman on February 27, 2008, 03:08:32 PM
HELLO

Ha ha, brilliant!
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Narcissist on February 27, 2008, 03:33:09 PM
Id say forest green is a definite 'can win'.

Dont think we'll get much change out of shots away, pretty sure most of the top teams will take note of last nights result and refrain from acting all big-time.

Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: altyf on February 27, 2008, 04:55:32 PM
We had a "points thread" a couple of days ago, but I still think 42 points is a realistic target. Obviously, there will some ridiculous results like Alty beating Aldershot and Northwich beating Exeter along the way, but I think we have to say that:

Halifax and Stafford Weymouth are HUGE
Forest Green, Crawley, Kiddy, Salisbury and Grays are "winnable"
We cant expect much out of Exeter, Ebbsfleet, Burton, Torquay

4 wins + a couple of draws sounds realistic to me.
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Foz on February 27, 2008, 06:25:24 PM
We had a "points thread" a couple of days ago, but I still think 42 points is a realistic target. Obviously, there will some ridiculous results like Alty beating Aldershot and Northwich beating Exeter along the way, but I think we have to say that:

Halifax and Stafford Weymouth are HUGE
Forest Green, Crawley, Kiddy, Salisbury and Grays are "winnable"
We cant expect much out of Exeter, Ebbsfleet, Burton, Torquay

4 wins + a couple of draws sounds realistic to me.

I can't help feeling that the way the season is going for the clubs we are playing will have a big effect on a few of those games. For example, I suspect that Ebbsfleet may have nothing to play for by the time we play them. Equally, if weymouth (or us) are either down or safe by the last day then that will have a big impact on the likely outcome.

I really can't see any of the current bottom 3 getting over 40 points, it seems very unlikely that any of them are going to get more points from up to 16 games than they have in 30 unless they make massive personel changes, which seems very unlikely given the transfer window
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Dougals Dad on February 27, 2008, 06:57:01 PM
Its so difficult to predict: there are so many unpredictable results in this league, especially at this time of the season.

I think we will pick up a few surprise results of our own.
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: hsmith1 on February 27, 2008, 06:58:49 PM
why write of Torquay at home after last night 1pt at least
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Mick on February 27, 2008, 07:07:20 PM
Without sounding patronising, every game we play is 'winnable'..............there are only 3 outcomes in football; you win, lose or draw and it is not necesarily the best team that gets the best result.

How many times this season have we been the better team and lost, when a win or a draw would have been a 'fairer' outcome, What we need to do, is to somehow do enough to get the same kind of results.

Last night seems like a good start, the match report clearly indicates that Torquay were the better side, yet the result says both teams were equal !!
If we had gone up the field and scored in the last 30 secs we would have undeservedly won the game (like Farsley almost did at Moss Lane recently)
I see no reason why we cannot go to some of the bigger teams and win points. No manager worth a carrot would go out to lose a game.
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: louise1925 on February 27, 2008, 08:59:14 PM
Halifax had a winding up order served against them today. I wonder if that will have a bearing on any of the above?
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Altyant on February 27, 2008, 09:13:27 PM
It's not that I'm in a good mood or anything after last nights heroics, but does anyone else believe that 46 points is a realistic total for this season.  I know this represents 18 points from 13 games and therefore well above what we've achieved to date, but if we can recover our home form and continue picking up points away its not impossible.

And probably neccessary!

Between 39 and 42 may well be enough. I think on a points per game basis we would currently finish 5th bottom on 39 points.
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Jenga on February 28, 2008, 12:45:36 PM
42 pts for me.

A Exeter City  - 0 pts     
H HALIFAX TOWN - 3 pts       
H FOREST GREEN ROVERS  - 1 pts
H CRAWLEY TOWN  - 1 pts 
A Grays Athletic - 1 pts
A Aldershot Town  - 0 pts
H STAFFORD RANGERS  - 3 pts       
H TORQUAY UNITED - 0 pts
A Kidderminster Harriers - 1 pts 
A Burton Albion  - 0 pts   
H SALISBURY CITY - 1 pts       
A Ebbsfleet United  - 0 pts       
A Weymouth  - 3 pts     

14 points added to our current 28 = 42 pts.

Weymouth away wont be easy to win, could be a draw or we could blow it totally, but it is a game we must win I fee, so have gone for the win.
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Dougals Dad on February 28, 2008, 12:53:58 PM
42 pts for me.

A Exeter City            0 pts     
H HALIFAX TOWN     3 pts       
H FOREST GREEN     1 pts
H CRAWLEY TOW     3 pts 
A Grays Athletic        1 pts
A Aldershot Town      0 pts
H STAFFORD R          3 pts  (1pt if they are still in the hunt for safety)     
H TORQUAY U           1 pts
A Kidderminster H      1 pts 
A Burton Albion          0 pts   
H SALISBURY C          1 pts       
A Ebbsfleet U              3 pts       
A Weymouth               1 pts     

18 points added to our current 28 = 46 pts. (or add 16 pts = 44pts)
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: ManagementGuru on February 28, 2008, 03:15:04 PM
Jenga's 42 point tally is consistent with the typical Alty n games on the trot without a win at the end of the season before pulling it out of the fire on the last day.  I could imagine this message board with "thank god, we're safe now" after the Stafford win followed by increasing panic in the subsequent games.

Oh please don't put us through all that AGAIN!
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Hugh on February 28, 2008, 03:21:53 PM
We will probably be alright now I think. We have the management team and squad in place to do it, we are a match for anyone on our day as Torquay showed, we just need to avoid major problems now.
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Altyant on February 28, 2008, 10:13:13 PM
We will probably be alright now I think. We have the management team and squad in place to do it, we are a match for anyone on our day as Torquay showed, we just need to avoid major problems now.

I hope your right.
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Jenga on February 29, 2008, 12:43:51 PM
We will probably be alright now I think. We have the management team and squad in place to do it, we are a match for anyone on our day as Torquay showed, we just need to avoid major problems now.

Like players Like JJ being recalled  :'(
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Narcissist on February 29, 2008, 01:16:27 PM
Lets not forget that he didnt play on tuesday.

We've signed battersby and young since JJ arrived so its not as bleak as before. Besides its not suprising that the new manager would do this, he may be returned to alty in a couple of weeks, fingers crossed!
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: markecky on February 29, 2008, 02:02:53 PM
I believe Battsersby played very well on Tuesday..was this the case?
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: altyf on February 29, 2008, 02:24:56 PM
I believe Battsersby played very well on Tuesday..was this the case?

I thought he had a fantastic game and although he probably should have scored the header he did really well to get into that position and the defender recovered well. He got up and down the wing all night and I was surprised at how many advanced positions he got into for a right back. If that's how he performs every game then it looks like a good signing. With Battersby and Lane plus Greg Young, I think we can deal with the loss of JJ even though he clearly had class!
Title: Re: 46 points anyone? (oops)
Post by: Longman on February 29, 2008, 08:23:20 PM
I believe Battsersby played very well on Tuesday..was this the case?

I thought he had a fantastic game and although he probably should have scored the header he did really well to get into that position and the defender recovered well. He got up and down the wing all night and I was surprised at how many advanced positions he got into for a right back. If that's how he performs every game then it looks like a good signing. With Battersby and Lane plus Greg Young, I think we can deal with the loss of JJ even though he clearly had class!

JJ was a class act, Battersby has started very poorly in my opinion, he's looked like he's lacking in confidence, however apparently he had a good game on Tuesday so hopefully his confidence will be boosted!