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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Alty365 on February 13, 2008, 07:42:20 PM
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Showed his true colours by leaving the club in the manner he did. No loss to Altrincham FC whatsoever!
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supprised it took him this long..... ::)
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Me too, i wonder if he thought the "we'll never play you again" chant at the end of the droyelsden game was aimed at him :o
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Showed his true colours by leaving the club in the manner he did. No loss to Altrincham FC whatsoever!
Exactly, the club gave him a shot at redemption, and this is how he responds. A player who flattered to deceive and will be no loss to the club.
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Happy to see him go to be honest, he may well have had potential ability, but if a player can only really perform well agains Runcorn and Vauxhall, he was never going to do anything useful enough for us. He clearly showed his attitude problem in the way he left.
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His attitude with very poor to be honest and there was always a question mark over him i felt. You would never know when he would go off on one. I think Moss Lane will be better without someone who is just going to spit their dummy out each time they are dropped
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Give it 12 months and he will pop up at Congleton or Radcliffe ... oh Radcliffe do you remember that 'up and coming' club whilst we were the 'falling' one ?
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The posts seem a little harsh. most players are wished well when they leave.
Always worked hard when he played. He stuck around a while when he wasn't even making the squad some weeks.
You have to question some players who are willing to sit on the bench at this level for match after match.
Good luck for the future Carlos. You were fun to watch and were always willing to try take on a player rather than just get the ball panic when you have plenty of space and hoof like certain players do week in week out!
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The post seem a little- harsh. most players are wished well when they leave.
I guess a lot depends on how they leave though. I think had Carlos rung Graham and said "look I want to go to Ireland on this tour" - Im sure everyone at the club wuld have wished him well. His chosen route out has left a bad taste
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Yeah fair point.
Just think everyone has always had it in for him along and been wishing this to happen.
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The posts seem a little harsh. most players are wished well when they leave.
Most players have the courtesy to say they are leaving too!
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I surprised it took him so long whilst being made to watch Warren Peyton play in his position. Peyton is a player who is far too slow to tackle, take anyone on and who just hoofs it in a panic,he has not played well since Woking away. We still have no proper wingers, are wide men pratically play full back. So many times Warren could have got in space out wide but instead runs into central midfield and gets in other players way. I wish Carlos all the best, people were always out to get you and thats because you had the bo**ocks to take people on. I am dying to see some skill in our team. I thought we were terrible on Tuesday and were in need of some class.
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I surprised it took him so long whilst being made to watch Warren Peyton play in his position. Peyton is a player who is far too slow to tackle, take anyone on and who just hoofs it in a panic,he has not played well since Woking away. We still have no proper wingers, are wide men pratically play full back. So many times Warren could have got in space out wide but instead runs into central midfield and gets in other players way. I wish Carlos all the best, people were always out to get you and thats because you had the bo**ocks to take people on. I am dying to see some skill in our team. I thought we were terrible on Tuesday and were in need of some class.
Peyton is a man with sheer passion for the club and the effort and work ethic alone warrants him a first team spot. He may not be a natural footballer with the ball at his feet but hes a really useful player.
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Warren Peyton is like Robbie Lawton in that he will cover every inch of grass for you for 90mins. Naturally athletic players with a 'good engine' (love that phrase)
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Carlos Logan is an awful player who can't cross the ball or pass very well and invariably makes poor decisions when in possession of the ball. His defensive qualities are almost non-existent and if he ever plays at this level again I will be more than shocked. To cap all this off he is rude enough to leave the club without even having the decency to phone and tell anybody.
I am so glad he's gone I can't even begin to tell you. He's sh*t!
Ask yourself if we'd have kept Denham as quiet as we did with Logan on the pitch instead of Peyton on Saturday. Seems unlikely doesn't it.
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Wouldn't say we were terrible it was just a relegation battle with two teams playing for their lives!!
Agree though we need players who hug the touchline and run at defenders instead of four similar players across the midfield.
As far as Warren goes I would say you can't doubt his fitness and heart but he is just physically too slow for this level and is not a wide midfielder.
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Denham was only kept quiet in the second half when Warren stopped playing full back alongside Jennings and pushed on. In the first half he spent the whole half stood next to Jennings which seemed to confuse Jennings.
I like Warren and will support him but i honestly don't feel he is a good left winger his positional play is poor and gets caught on the ball all the time.
People see different things in different players so I accept this is just my opinion.
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None of the above alters the fact that Carlos Logan is absolutely SHAT!
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I have full respect for players with full passion which is an Alty tradition but its not enough to keep teams up and we need to stay in this league. I believe Carlos would have changed games for the good, especially last night. We were crying out for him. Even Joe played better than Peyton when he came on and thats a right footed striker on the wing. I have seen plenty of players who have the passion but ain't good enough for this standard. My main point is people have had a go at Carlos and it was well out of order, never given a chance, don't think he played three games in a row. Graham is old school and I think sometimes skillful players scare him and he plays safe but if you watch Warren he is so so slow. I am worried for the rest of the season. We need at least one winger who could take people on and get to the byline and swing any sort of cross in because at the moment like all season we have tried hoofing it up to Senior and Little, I love those two but they ain't going to win it that way. There has been spells recently that we have got it on the ground and passed and we can do it, but it is very few spells. Warren is no wide player, love his passion but he's not good enough and surely thats the simple fact. Now we have no-one to play there so we'll have to see how it goes.
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I reckon we have only heard one side of the story, and I think there was more to it than 'please give me a call if you decide to leave' as we have been told. I thought Carlos had something but was never give a real run in the side and its a shame he left the club, especially if he did leave under the circumstances we have been told.
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Our best defence is to attack teams like we did against Droylsden in the second half, not sit back. We need Warren to push forward, most games he's stood on the toes on Jennings. Denham got loads of the game in the first half when we defended and then hardly touched it in the second. A lot of the time Warren watches the game go by, I could cover all blades of grass, I will go in hard on 50 / 50 challenges should I not be playing?? Nothing wrong with Logans tracking back from what I saw, made a mistake with one back pass and got slayed, Stuart was at fault for the 1st Woking goal but no-one mentioned that ?? Logan defended well because he was quick. Oh and you mentioned he couldn't cross, when did Peyton last set up a goal from a cross ? and if you can remember when was the one before that ?? the fact is we need to stay up and we had a better player than Peyton sat on the bench.
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A big shame for the club i feel, he provided a spark and i would like to have seen played a lot more. People questioned his final ball (not as bad as made out), but we don't have any players at the club with his dribbling ability. Must have seen the writing on the wall when 3 full-backs are picked on the bench ahead of him.
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I thought Stuart was unsighted for the 1st Woking goal and it was a genuinely good finish.
I'm going to stop there because I don't want to appear as though I'm disagreeing with everything you say for the sake of it (which I'm not because you do talk a lot of sense). :)
Whatever the future holds let's hope the team continue the revival since the turn of the year.
Come on Alty!!!!
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Must have seen the writing on the wall when 3 full-backs are picked on the bench ahead of him.
He had already left by then.
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I agree we can go on and on about Logan. Forums are for people's opinion and I want to be proved wrong, but I am concerned. I have never been so stressed watching Alty than this season, especially at home. I would be devastated for us to go down. Anyway at least it will stop me from always shouting ' get logan on ' ha. Come on Alty !!!!
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If a player would prefer to play in Ireland rather than the BSP there must be something seriously wrong.
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I think that a simple statement on the difference between Warren Peyton and Carlos Logan is that you can rely on Warren Peyton whereas it is patently obvious that Logan is a different matter.
I speak to scouts who come to Moss Lane, the same ones that used to come to United reserve fixtures, and including a guy who knew him as a kid at City, and the almost unanimous view is that with Logan there is no end product, he gets into a crossing position and then just belts it indiscriminately across goal. Also he is very poor defensively, reluctant to track back. Also prone to 'sulk' if it isn't going his way or he gets criticism
Peyton is an experienced, hard working player, not blessed with the same degree of natural skill but a much better asset for a team in our position.
I'll not lie, I didn't rate Logan after his first two or three matches, he flattered to deceive and looking at the bigger picture contributed very little of a positive nature
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and lets not forget Warren is the "face of the forum" .. That shows Passion for me !!
Just like the celebration of goals recently lots of passion.. Even the loan players seem happy to be here, just look at Shotton when we score.
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If a player would prefer to play in Ireland rather than the BSP there must be something seriously wrong.
Not trying to get dragged into this debate but ask most footballers want they want to do and they will tell you they want to play football.
Maybe thats why he has gone there as he has probably been promised to play more games
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We've got a left winger who can go in Sam Duncum alhough he made the bench Tuesday. More of the Logan mould than Peyton
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Must have seen the writing on the wall when 3 full-backs are picked on the bench ahead of him.
He had already left by then.
It has happened for several games in fact.
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We've got a left winger who can go in Sam Duncum alhough he made the bench Tuesday. More of the Logan mould than Peyton
Bring on Sam Duncum ! start blooding him for last five or ten if required
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Think i'll best remember him for his impact when he came on against weymouth at home, a raw talent with quick feet,decent striker of the ball but ran like a penguin,
he show'd his support to all the players before the kick off against droyelsden by urging them on which say's he's ok,
all the best carlos i personally think you were a decent attacking left winger, we have'nt got one now have we :(
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I had to do two readings of this thread to make sure i was reading about the Carlos Logan,that everyone was calling for 'to have a good run in the first time and to start games'.I take it its the same Carlos???While the manner of his leaving is totally wrong(i wonder if he thought he had got the ok when he spoke with Graham and some missunderstanding has happened).If he is signed for Alty how can he play for an Irish team in Spain?is this another player not on contract and how many more are not and can just walk?
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Im not sure why everyone had it in for carlos, he showed a good commitment to the club despite dropping level in the hope of getting his career on track and then hardly playing. He was always there and tried to play for us whenever he got the chance. He supported the team when he wasnt playing and was honest enough to tell the club of the opportunity in front of him.
I also think there's a few harsh comments on Peyton on here. He only lacks pace. He's a great footballer and if the ball is given to him under pressure he will hoof it like anyone else at any level to play safe. Ive seen some very intellegent football from warren in his time at alty and i love to see him get picked.
Carlos dropped a bollock by not calling on sunday but we dont know the full story so for now i wish him good luck and hope we dont miss him. seeing as though he hardly got a chance of a run in the team i dont think we will!
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I had to do two readings of this thread to make sure i was reading about the Carlos Logan,that everyone was calling for 'to have a good run in the first time and to start games'.I take it its the same Carlos???While the manner of his leaving is totally wrong(i wonder if he thought he had got the ok when he spoke with Graham and some missunderstanding has happened).If he is signed for Alty how can he play for an Irish team in Spain?is this another player not on contract and how many more are not and can just walk?
I think its fantastic that Carlos is not on a contract. If he was he would have been sat nicely in the stand until the end of the season.
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I think its fantastic that Carlos is not on a contract. If he was he would have been sat nicely in the stand until the end of the season.
Thats unfair, we dont know that.
What Carlos has done has demonstrated that he just wanted to play football, not sit on a bench.
Im not sure why people seem to associate not getting picked every week with not wanting to play. There has never been an indication of that with Carlos.
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I once heard it said that put Carlos in a 100m sprint with some of the others in the team and he would win hands down, but give him a ball to kick at the end of it and he wouldn't know what to do with it. Thats why there were mixed feelings about him playing regularly on the first team.
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I think its fantastic that Carlos is not on a contract. If he was he would have been sat nicely in the stand until the end of the season.
Thats unfair, we dont know that.
What Carlos has done has demonstrated that he just wanted to play football, not sit on a bench.
Im not sure why people seem to associate not getting picked every week with not wanting to play. There has never been an indication of that with Carlos.
Maybe that came out wrong..I'm just saying that if he had been on a contract the option would have been there for him and we would have struggled to release him if needed.
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Let's face it,
1) There was always a question over Carlos Logan's attitude (though admittedly it was mainly raised by people on here), so it's probably best he's gone.
2) Warren Peyton is NOT a left winger.
The inbetween sort of player is...Chris Denham. Genuinely believe this is who we need to play on the left.
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Carlos Logan is an awful player who can't cross the ball or pass very well and invariably makes poor decisions when in possession of the ball. His defensive qualities are almost non-existent and if he ever plays at this level again I will be more than shocked. To cap all this off he is rude enough to leave the club without even having the decency to phone and tell anybody.
I am so glad he's gone I can't even begin to tell you. He's sh*t!
Ask yourself if we'd have kept Denham as quiet as we did with Logan on the pitch instead of Peyton on Saturday. Seems unlikely doesn't it.
how the f**k would you know, you're never there!
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I'm not really going to sit here and call Carlos. If nothing else he brightened up some games earlier in the season (Aldershot, Ebbsfleet) when we were totally bereft of ideas. He's clearly an individual type player though, runs at people with the ball and is quite good at it but ultimately doesn't have the end product, simply doesn't.
I lost count of the times that Carlos got down the left towarsd the Golf Road end and I never had any conviction the cross would come in, or get past the first man. I guess he's not alone at that but at this level and in our position he has to have it. Either the end product is good or you make up for it in other ways, defensive help, ability to play in other positions etc and unfortunately this was just lacking.
He started off at Man City went to Darlington and then Alty and is now scrabbling around for a club in Ireland. They can't all be wrong about him. Whether it's attitude, ability, fitness, end product, desire whatever, all footballers eventually find their level. I'm pretty certain that Carlos will end up at FCUM and be an absolute sensation as he ahs many plus points to his game. Unfortunately in our position, we need the complete package. If not, we need the hard work, fitness and effort of somebody like Warren until we find someone with real quality. Guess there's an element of Lawton/Potts here.
Likewise, won't comment on the circumstances surrounding the departure altho knowing Cote, saying he would go with the clubs blessing could well have been "f*** off to Ireland then if you don't want to play for us, I don't f***ing care, you can go, if you're going, ring me SUnday so I can sort out the release papers" :D
Edit: Yes I'm aware I said I wouldn't call Carlos and basically have and that I wouldn't comment on his departure and basically have. :)
Ultimately, he just wasn't quite what we need at the moment. If you said one of the 5 loans signings or Carlos had to leave then it's a no brainer really.
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Carlos Logan is an awful player who can't cross the ball or pass very well and invariably makes poor decisions when in possession of the ball. His defensive qualities are almost non-existent and if he ever plays at this level again I will be more than shocked. To cap all this off he is rude enough to leave the club without even having the decency to phone and tell anybody.
I am so glad he's gone I can't even begin to tell you. He's sh*t!
Ask yourself if we'd have kept Denham as quiet as we did with Logan on the pitch instead of Peyton on Saturday. Seems unlikely doesn't it.
how the f**k would you know, you're never there!
I've seen enough and heard enough from people who know what they are talking about. What the f**k has my attendance/non-attendance got to do with you anyway? Who the f**k are you to question me?
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f**k off Terry Wogan we had Carlos Logan la la la la!!!!!! :-\
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Carlos Logan is an awful player who can't cross the ball or pass very well and invariably makes poor decisions when in possession of the ball. His defensive qualities are almost non-existent and if he ever plays at this level again I will be more than shocked. To cap all this off he is rude enough to leave the club without even having the decency to phone and tell anybody.
I am so glad he's gone I can't even begin to tell you. He's sh*t!
Ask yourself if we'd have kept Denham as quiet as we did with Logan on the pitch instead of Peyton on Saturday. Seems unlikely doesn't it.
how the f**k would you know, you're never there!
I've seen enough and heard enough from people who know what they are talking about. What the f**k has my attendance/non-attendance got to do with you anyway? Who the f**k are you to question me?
Is the banter sensor not working?
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Lets all conclude that Carlos had great promise and talent but for what ever reason never really had the chance to settle in the team.
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Carlos Logan is an awful player who can't cross the ball or pass very well and invariably makes poor decisions when in possession of the ball. His defensive qualities are almost non-existent and if he ever plays at this level again I will be more than shocked. To cap all this off he is rude enough to leave the club without even having the decency to phone and tell anybody.
I am so glad he's gone I can't even begin to tell you. He's sh*t!
Ask yourself if we'd have kept Denham as quiet as we did with Logan on the pitch instead of Peyton on Saturday. Seems unlikely doesn't it.
how the f**k would you know, you're never there!
Bit naughty that Frosty...Alty365 goes to all the games he can from Kent and has a job that involves Saturday work as well. He spends the rest of the time he is not there pacing up and down the living room. His family are also at every home match. He tries to make a difference through the ideas4alty thing.
I can't go every week anymore and I too get annoyed when people who aren't at a match criticise certain things (the "why are we bringing him on" away at Cambridge thread was an example). However general stuff like this does not always need an in depth analysis.
Some rated him..some didn't.
Lets not fall out.we're all Alty....there is not enough of us.
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Group hug?
Bon Chance Carlos!
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** Group hug back from Rugger Buggers **
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***wipes away tear***
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(http://www.themillers.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/3/68/0,,10360~3565571,00.jpg)
Here is Duncum. If I can gradually get the team to migrate to Alty it'll do wonders for my travel expenses
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I have to say Warren Peyton was outstanding against Farsley.
I'd rather see someone solid, holding his position and involved for the entire time spent on the pitch not givingt the ball away cheaply tackling back than someone who whizzes past 3 defenders and then crosses to their keeper a couple of times and thinking that amounts to a contribution.
If Carlos had an end product he'd be worth the plaudits....he hasn't so he doesn't.
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Does anyone know which Irish team he has gone on tour with? I may watch his progress this season if they take him on.
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Does anyone know which Irish team he has gone on tour with? I may watch his progress this season if they take him on.
Craggy Island FC?
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Peyton has NO end product, jesus people go on about Logan with no end product. Peyton DOES NOT set goals up. And Peyton gave away the ball against Farsley fu*king loads,' I know I have the ball let me hoof it in a panic' People are blind !!!!The speed of the conference is far too quick for him. Support him all you like but I can only see one way for us and that is down !!!!
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Did anyone ever see his Bebo site? Touch of the JB's there?
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And too add, when he did come on, no-one wanted to pass to him and when he had the ball no-one supported him. Warren is loyal but is out of his depth, but people don't see it because of his determination. He would make a good centre mid in the Unibond Prem or Conference North. We need wide men, look how teams do it against us, yeah they have money but we had a quality player in Logan sat on the bench. Did he not set a goal up in the Cup recently. Jennings set two up against Droylsden and he's a left back, maybe try him on the wing - quick and skillful. Can people not see we need wide men providing crosses in because all we do is hoof it up to the front two and they never win it !!! sorry but a lot of you are blind and how can he ever be slagged off when he never played more than three games in a row !
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JJ was good as a wingback.
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And too add, when he did come on, no-one wanted to pass to him and when he had the ball no-one supported him. Warren is loyal but is out of his depth, but people don't see it because of his determination. He would make a good centre mid in the Unibond Prem or Conference North. We need wide men, look how teams do it against us, yeah they have money but we had a quality player in Logan sat on the bench. Did he not set a goal up in the Cup recently. Jennings set two up against Droylsden and he's a left back, maybe try him on the wing - quick and skillful. Can people not see we need wide men providing crosses in because all we do is hoof it up to the front two and they never win it !!! sorry but a lot of you are blind and how can he ever be slagged off when he never played more than three games in a row !
100% agree the 3 players with attacking creativity have all gone for one reason or another......
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And too add, when he did come on, no-one wanted to pass to him and when he had the ball no-one supported him. Warren is loyal but is out of his depth, but people don't see it because of his determination. He would make a good centre mid in the Unibond Prem or Conference North. We need wide men, look how teams do it against us, yeah they have money but we had a quality player in Logan sat on the bench. Did he not set a goal up in the Cup recently. Jennings set two up against Droylsden and he's a left back, maybe try him on the wing - quick and skillful. Can people not see we need wide men providing crosses in because all we do is hoof it up to the front two and they never win it !!! sorry but a lot of you are blind and how can he ever be slagged off when he never played more than three games in a row !
I agree with your view that we need wide men to unlock defences.
However, we need a better player than Carlos Logan.
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He would have ripped Nantwich apart.
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Peyton has NO end product, jesus people go on about Logan with no end product. Peyton DOES NOT set goals up. And Peyton gave away the ball against Farsley fu*king loads,' I know I have the ball let me hoof it in a panic' People are blind !!!!The speed of the conference is far too quick for him. Support him all you like but I can only see one way for us and that is down !!!!
Is 2 goals in the conference no end product?
And too add, when he did come on, no-one wanted to pass to him and when he had the ball no-one supported him. Warren is loyal but is out of his depth, but people don't see it because of his determination. He would make a good centre mid in the Unibond Prem or Conference North. We need wide men, look how teams do it against us, yeah they have money but we had a quality player in Logan sat on the bench. Did he not set a goal up in the Cup recently. Jennings set two up against Droylsden and he's a left back, maybe try him on the wing - quick and skillful. Can people not see we need wide men providing crosses in because all we do is hoof it up to the front two and they never win it !!! sorry but a lot of you are blind and how can he ever be slagged off when he never played more than three games in a row !
He set up a goal in the cup against a Conference North Side. Some quality player!
You say play Jennings on the wing. The First (decent) left back we have had in a few years and you want to play him on the wing? Who will we play left back then?
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Peyton has NO end product, jesus people go on about Logan with no end product. Peyton DOES NOT set goals up. And Peyton gave away the ball against Farsley fu*king loads,' I know I have the ball let me hoof it in a panic' People are blind !!!!The speed of the conference is far too quick for him. Support him all you like but I can only see one way for us and that is down !!!!
Is 2 goals in the conference no end product?
And too add, when he did come on, no-one wanted to pass to him and when he had the ball no-one supported him. Warren is loyal but is out of his depth, but people don't see it because of his determination. He would make a good centre mid in the Unibond Prem or Conference North. We need wide men, look how teams do it against us, yeah they have money but we had a quality player in Logan sat on the bench. Did he not set a goal up in the Cup recently. Jennings set two up against Droylsden and he's a left back, maybe try him on the wing - quick and skillful. Can people not see we need wide men providing crosses in because all we do is hoof it up to the front two and they never win it !!! sorry but a lot of you are blind and how can he ever be slagged off when he never played more than three games in a row !
He set up a goal in the cup against a Conference North Side. Some quality player!
You say play Jennings on the wing. The First (decent) left back we have had in a few years and you want to play him on the wing? Who will we play left back then?
I presume 'some quality player' is ironic ::) Firstly Conference North Side or not - HE SET UP A GOAL! In my book that gives him something lacking from Peytons game.
Peytons' long balls to no one will never set up a goal 9 times out of 10 it will give possession to the oppostion. As a fellow supporter near me exclaimed as one of his hopeful long balls was launched "Everytime >:( " (for those of you who wonder what that means - Everytime the central defender will head the ball away and everytime we will lose possession - and add to that WE WILL NEVER SCORE
With no real target man, and players reluctant to support play by getting in the box, Logan was wasted playing for Alty, and the loss is Alty's simple as.
The anti-Logan bandwagon and what amounts to slagging off on this forum started some time ago, so he's better off somewhere else, which seems to me a sensible decision.
Good luck to him
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Peyton has NO end product, jesus people go on about Logan with no end product. Peyton DOES NOT set goals up. And Peyton gave away the ball against Farsley fu*king loads,' I know I have the ball let me hoof it in a panic' People are blind !!!!The speed of the conference is far too quick for him. Support him all you like but I can only see one way for us and that is down !!!!
Is 2 goals in the conference no end product?
And too add, when he did come on, no-one wanted to pass to him and when he had the ball no-one supported him. Warren is loyal but is out of his depth, but people don't see it because of his determination. He would make a good centre mid in the Unibond Prem or Conference North. We need wide men, look how teams do it against us, yeah they have money but we had a quality player in Logan sat on the bench. Did he not set a goal up in the Cup recently. Jennings set two up against Droylsden and he's a left back, maybe try him on the wing - quick and skillful. Can people not see we need wide men providing crosses in because all we do is hoof it up to the front two and they never win it !!! sorry but a lot of you are blind and how can he ever be slagged off when he never played more than three games in a row !
He set up a goal in the cup against a Conference North Side. Some quality player!
You say play Jennings on the wing. The First (decent) left back we have had in a few years and you want to play him on the wing? Who will we play left back then?
I presume 'some quality player' is ironic ::) Firstly Conference North Side or not - HE SET UP A GOAL! In my book that gives him something lacking from Peytons game.
Peytons' long balls to no one will never set up a goal 9 times out of 10 it will give possession to the oppostion. As a fellow supporter near me exclaimed as one of his hopeful long balls was launched "Everytime >:( " (for those of you who wonder what that means - Everytime the central defender will head the ball away and everytime we will lose possession - and add to that WE WILL NEVER SCORE
With no real target man, and players reluctant to support play by getting in the box, Logan was wasted playing for Alty, and the loss is Alty's simple as.
The anti-Logan bandwagon and what amounts to slagging off on this forum started some time ago, so he's better off somewhere else, which seems to me a sensible decision.
Good luck to him
Some quality player was supposed to be sarcastic. Hope it came across that way.
What is more important? Setting up 1 goal in a tinpot cup match or scoring two winning (yes winning if you remember correctly) goals in the league that could possibly help us stay up. You say Peyton hoofs it up to a defender to clear everytime. Logan runs down the wing goes to cross it, off for a goal kick about 2 yards after it leaves his foot (Rushden at home). Scampers up the wing tries to cross it straight to the keeper (I lose count of how many times this happens). Goes on a run up the wing crosses it in straight to a defender (Again countless times) and that suicidal backpass against Histon.
I'll leave it to others to compare Peytons hoofing to Carlos' inability to connect properly with a football, but surely a player who can get around the pitch for 90 minutes, doesnt think hes too big for the club and can actually defend as well as attack is more of an assett to altrincham football club than one that cant.
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Peyton has NO end product, jesus people go on about Logan with no end product. Peyton DOES NOT set goals up. And Peyton gave away the ball against Farsley fu*king loads,' I know I have the ball let me hoof it in a panic' People are blind !!!!The speed of the conference is far too quick for him. Support him all you like but I can only see one way for us and that is down !!!!
Is 2 goals in the conference no end product?
And too add, when he did come on, no-one wanted to pass to him and when he had the ball no-one supported him. Warren is loyal but is out of his depth, but people don't see it because of his determination. He would make a good centre mid in the Unibond Prem or Conference North. We need wide men, look how teams do it against us, yeah they have money but we had a quality player in Logan sat on the bench. Did he not set a goal up in the Cup recently. Jennings set two up against Droylsden and he's a left back, maybe try him on the wing - quick and skillful. Can people not see we need wide men providing crosses in because all we do is hoof it up to the front two and they never win it !!! sorry but a lot of you are blind and how can he ever be slagged off when he never played more than three games in a row !
He set up a goal in the cup against a Conference North Side. Some quality player!
You say play Jennings on the wing. The First (decent) left back we have had in a few years and you want to play him on the wing? Who will we play left back then?
I presume 'some quality player' is ironic ::) Firstly Conference North Side or not - HE SET UP A GOAL! In my book that gives him something lacking from Peytons game.
Peytons' long balls to no one will never set up a goal 9 times out of 10 it will give possession to the oppostion. As a fellow supporter near me exclaimed as one of his hopeful long balls was launched "Everytime >:( " (for those of you who wonder what that means - Everytime the central defender will head the ball away and everytime we will lose possession - and add to that WE WILL NEVER SCORE
With no real target man, and players reluctant to support play by getting in the box, Logan was wasted playing for Alty, and the loss is Alty's simple as.
The anti-Logan bandwagon and what amounts to slagging off on this forum started some time ago, so he's better off somewhere else, which seems to me a sensible decision.
Good luck to him
Some quality player was supposed to be sarcastic. Hope it came across that way.
What is more important? Setting up 1 goal in a tinpot cup match or scoring two winning (yes winning if you remember correctly) goals in the league that could possibly help us stay up. You say Peyton hoofs it up to a defender to clear everytime. Logan runs down the wing goes to cross it, off for a goal kick about 2 yards after it leaves his foot (Rushden at home). Scampers up the wing tries to cross it straight to the keeper (I lose count of how many times this happens). Goes on a run up the wing crosses it in straight to a defender (Again countless times) and that suicidal backpass against Histon.
I'll leave it to others to compare Peytons hoofing to Carlos' inability to connect properly with a football, but surely a player who can get around the pitch for 90 minutes, doesnt think hes too big for the club and can actually defend as well as attack is more of an assett to altrincham football club than one that cant.
Considering the time Carlos got on the pitch I'm impressed that you can make such a definitive assessment of his ability (I'm being sarcastic by the way) ;)
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I have seen both players play once against us(droylsden) I felt peyton was hard working but just sat in front of your left back (maybe to mark denham?) but he lacked invention and was poor on the ball, yet when we played yous at your place, Logan was very dangerous and gave our right back a very hard time. Your manager would have too choose between a man that will give your back left back protection and will battle to win the ball, or a player that can sometimes create goals but (accordingly inconsistently). He chase stability over skill which seemed a good idea against us but maybe not other teams..........................
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Peyton has NO end product, jesus people go on about Logan with no end product. Peyton DOES NOT set goals up. And Peyton gave away the ball against Farsley fu*king loads,' I know I have the ball let me hoof it in a panic' People are blind !!!!The speed of the conference is far too quick for him. Support him all you like but I can only see one way for us and that is down !!!!
Is 2 goals in the conference no end product?
And too add, when he did come on, no-one wanted to pass to him and when he had the ball no-one supported him. Warren is loyal but is out of his depth, but people don't see it because of his determination. He would make a good centre mid in the Unibond Prem or Conference North. We need wide men, look how teams do it against us, yeah they have money but we had a quality player in Logan sat on the bench. Did he not set a goal up in the Cup recently. Jennings set two up against Droylsden and he's a left back, maybe try him on the wing - quick and skillful. Can people not see we need wide men providing crosses in because all we do is hoof it up to the front two and they never win it !!! sorry but a lot of you are blind and how can he ever be slagged off when he never played more than three games in a row !
He set up a goal in the cup against a Conference North Side. Some quality player!
You say play Jennings on the wing. The First (decent) left back we have had in a few years and you want to play him on the wing? Who will we play left back then?
I presume 'some quality player' is ironic ::) Firstly Conference North Side or not - HE SET UP A GOAL! In my book that gives him something lacking from Peytons game.
Peytons' long balls to no one will never set up a goal 9 times out of 10 it will give possession to the oppostion. As a fellow supporter near me exclaimed as one of his hopeful long balls was launched "Everytime >:( " (for those of you who wonder what that means - Everytime the central defender will head the ball away and everytime we will lose possession - and add to that WE WILL NEVER SCORE
With no real target man, and players reluctant to support play by getting in the box, Logan was wasted playing for Alty, and the loss is Alty's simple as.
The anti-Logan bandwagon and what amounts to slagging off on this forum started some time ago, so he's better off somewhere else, which seems to me a sensible decision.
Good luck to him
Sorry but I find it quite ironic that mention is made of an "anti logan bandwagon" when yourself and ONeedham in particular seem to demonstrate the depth of vision and perception of Nelsons eyepatch when commenting on Warren Peyton
People have their preferences and football is a game of opinions and we're never all going to agree on players
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Sorry but I find it quite ironic that mention is made of an "anti logan bandwagon" when yourself and ONeedham in particular seem to demonstrate the depth of vision and perception of Nelsons eyepatch when commenting on Warren Peyton
People have their preferences and football is a game of opinions and we're never all going to agree on players
Best metaphor ever!! if i could i'd goodwin you all day ATS
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Peyton has NO end product, jesus people go on about Logan with no end product. Peyton DOES NOT set goals up. And Peyton gave away the ball against Farsley fu*king loads,' I know I have the ball let me hoof it in a panic' People are blind !!!!The speed of the conference is far too quick for him. Support him all you like but I can only see one way for us and that is down !!!!
Is 2 goals in the conference no end product?
And too add, when he did come on, no-one wanted to pass to him and when he had the ball no-one supported him. Warren is loyal but is out of his depth, but people don't see it because of his determination. He would make a good centre mid in the Unibond Prem or Conference North. We need wide men, look how teams do it against us, yeah they have money but we had a quality player in Logan sat on the bench. Did he not set a goal up in the Cup recently. Jennings set two up against Droylsden and he's a left back, maybe try him on the wing - quick and skillful. Can people not see we need wide men providing crosses in because all we do is hoof it up to the front two and they never win it !!! sorry but a lot of you are blind and how can he ever be slagged off when he never played more than three games in a row !
He set up a goal in the cup against a Conference North Side. Some quality player!
You say play Jennings on the wing. The First (decent) left back we have had in a few years and you want to play him on the wing? Who will we play left back then?
I presume 'some quality player' is ironic ::) Firstly Conference North Side or not - HE SET UP A GOAL! In my book that gives him something lacking from Peytons game.
Peytons' long balls to no one will never set up a goal 9 times out of 10 it will give possession to the oppostion. As a fellow supporter near me exclaimed as one of his hopeful long balls was launched "Everytime >:( " (for those of you who wonder what that means - Everytime the central defender will head the ball away and everytime we will lose possession - and add to that WE WILL NEVER SCORE
With no real target man, and players reluctant to support play by getting in the box, Logan was wasted playing for Alty, and the loss is Alty's simple as.
The anti-Logan bandwagon and what amounts to slagging off on this forum started some time ago, so he's better off somewhere else, which seems to me a sensible decision.
Good luck to him
Some quality player was supposed to be sarcastic. Hope it came across that way.
What is more important? Setting up 1 goal in a tinpot cup match or scoring two winning (yes winning if you remember correctly) goals in the league that could possibly help us stay up. You say Peyton hoofs it up to a defender to clear everytime. Logan runs down the wing goes to cross it, off for a goal kick about 2 yards after it leaves his foot (Rushden at home). Scampers up the wing tries to cross it straight to the keeper (I lose count of how many times this happens). Goes on a run up the wing crosses it in straight to a defender (Again countless times) and that suicidal backpass against Histon.
I'll leave it to others to compare Peytons hoofing to Carlos' inability to connect properly with a football, but surely a player who can get around the pitch for 90 minutes, doesnt think hes too big for the club and can actually defend as well as attack is more of an assett to altrincham football club than one that cant.
Considering the time Carlos got on the pitch I'm impressed that you can make such a definitive assessment of his ability (I'm being sarcastic by the way) ;)
carlos played 50% of the league games he was eligable for in his time at alty just thought i'd get that out there :D