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Title: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Longman on January 22, 2008, 02:59:42 PM
Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of talk regarding getting more people down to watch Alty and thus boost our attendence / fanbase etc.  I'd just like to give a little testimonial which highlights how addictive and enjoyable coming to watch Alty can be.  I have managed to persuade one of my mates to start coming to watch Alty instead of United, it started with the Millwall game and since then he's come along with me to the Northwich games, the Kidderminster game and saturday's York game, also a couple of my other mates (one a Wigan fan and one a United fan) are expressing and interest in Alty and have been down once each, both of whom are coming to the Woking match next week!

Basically if I can do it everyone can, if only a third of us started to bring one person down each week we'd have about another 300 home fans each week, thus boosting the financial coffers of the club and giving the lads even better support!  Anyway I just wanted to let you know that i'm slowly but surely converting my premiership club supporting mates into Alty addicts!!  ;D
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: altrincham on January 22, 2008, 03:08:48 PM
Good on you, would be nice to get a decent crowd/atmosphere for the T.V cameras.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: JT on January 22, 2008, 06:05:24 PM
I have to back up what Longman said there. Coming to alty is so addictive, and i have been coming down for ever home match now for around 2 years. After about 1 year of just me and my mate coming down i started to get more and more of my friends to come down and watch the lads. I now bring about 6 mates every game, all of whom really get behind the team.
I have supported a premiership club for most of my life, however i now honestly find that Alty are my no.1 team. If the prem team loses im not that botherd now, but if Alty lose it puts my weekend on a downer. I am now positive that i will be an Alty fan for life.
I really think everyone that comes to the games at the moment should try and bring an extra person down for each game, as it can only help the club.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: penfold on January 22, 2008, 06:16:37 PM
My first game was about 4 years ago when we were in the dark days of the Conference North. I was asked to go to that game by a friend and ever since then iv been to most games and had a season ticket for 2 seasons now. I totally agree on what your saying and i think its a great idea. What we should do is set a fixture e.g Farsley where we ask as many of the fans to bring someone who does not normally come down to moss lane, and see what the turn out is like. Us it as am experiment to see if we can make a difference
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Longman on January 22, 2008, 06:40:01 PM
What about the Woking game that's on Setanta next week?  I for one will be bringing 4 mates along,  ;)
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: bigcol on January 22, 2008, 06:45:01 PM
Hammy's right: bring a friend who gets in half price or kids for a quid, there's plenty of room in the ground for them!
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: crossie on January 22, 2008, 07:33:02 PM
Hammy's right: bring a friend who gets in half price or kids for a quid, there's plenty of room in the ground for them!

This is potentially a good idea. If say the 750 regulars, all bring some one that doesn't normally come and watch alty, that would mean 1500 fans who are supporting alty, then include the away section depending on which team it is, because i doubt Woking will bring many nor will Farsley that figure will probably reach 1600. Then if there was £1 entry for kids there is a strong chance of getting a couple more 100 in. I really think this idea needs promoting, there is the potential for a good source of income hear for a few matches, because if we do well on the night/ day people will take interest.
Can any fans with strong contacts with the club please tell us if this idea would be worth thinking about, because there is real potential hear.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Butty on January 22, 2008, 08:40:11 PM
I also know that, as another idea, some people at school are being put off by having to pay 6(i think) quid for entry. As another profitable idea, i think that the 2 pound(could even be raised to 3) age bracket should be changed from under 12 to under 16, as this would attract a lot more teenagers.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: JT on January 22, 2008, 08:58:21 PM
Spot on Butty
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Dougals Dad on January 22, 2008, 09:03:03 PM
Good on you Longman & others.

When I lived in Chester I used to bring 1 or 2 of my work mates or a disabled lass I knew from Liverpool. When I moved to Kendal I brought along my ex-wife-to-be and sometimes her nephews & neice.

The thing they all had in common: they all enjoyed it & wanted to go regularly
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Whiskers on January 22, 2008, 09:05:00 PM
Hit it on the nail. Myself and others support the first team we ever watched live. GET THE KIDS IN FOR PENNIES.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Dianne on January 22, 2008, 09:15:32 PM
I have mentioned this before on this forum, so here I go again.

Free tickets for juniors to attend home league games are available from Alty Leisure Centre, plenty already make use of this.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on January 22, 2008, 09:17:19 PM
I have mentioned this before on this forum, so here I go again.

Free tickets for juniors to attend home league games are available from Alty Leisure Centre, plenty already make use of this.
what age is junior?
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: crossie on January 22, 2008, 09:59:43 PM
I have mentioned this before on this forum, so here I go again.

Free tickets for juniors to attend home league games are available from Alty Leisure Centre, plenty already make use of this.

I think if they had these tickets avalible at other places other then alty leisure centre they might go, becasue atm they are only in on place, if you increase the number of places they are avalible, the more people notice them
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Dougals Dad on January 22, 2008, 10:05:02 PM
Ice rink, Cinema, (dare I say) Tesco!
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: penfold on January 22, 2008, 11:20:30 PM
Tesco, that would be a sin. They ruined our attendence last time. But yeah you get the idea, the more places we can promote the better. What about with every x amount of pounds spent in sainsburys you get half price entry into the ground or something. Worth a try anyhow.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: bighairedmike on January 23, 2008, 09:44:42 AM
I have mentioned this before on this forum, so here I go again.

Free tickets for juniors to attend home league games are available from Alty Leisure Centre, plenty already make use of this.
what age is junior?

It was under 16 last season. Dont think you'll get in for that somehow.  :D
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: altrincham on January 23, 2008, 10:57:27 AM
Maybe a promotion scheme where by the club chooses a high profile game, 6 pointer/derby etc.. and they do a promotion such as let everyone in for £5 or one in one free. If the promotion is publicised properly in the M.E.N, radio, messenger etc...the club wont loose money but will increase fan/club relations, community/club relations and the general local profile aswell as getting a decent gate to spur the players on. If after a test game it worked they could do this a number of times throughout a season.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Alty Dave on January 23, 2008, 11:56:17 AM
The £2 scheme is for U14 at present.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Hodgey on January 23, 2008, 12:16:24 PM
Basically if I can do it everyone can, if only a third of us started to bring one person down each week we'd have about another 300 home fans each week, thus boosting the financial coffers of the club and giving the lads even better support!  Anyway I just wanted to let you know that i'm slowly but surely converting my premiership club supporting mates into Alty addicts!!  ;D
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Spot on Longman, I started watching Alty and I would say it took me 3 matches before I understood the squad and players now im hooked, I bought a season ticket and I have managed to bring a friend who is now equally hooked and he will also be buying a season ticket for the remining games. Derek has confirmed the club will pro rata the season ticket cost against the remaining games so a discount is available still if the supporters are willing to commit to the club. Ive 100% agree regarding existing fans selecting 'a' another football fan to bring to Alty.

3pm KO's on a Saturday afternoon
Standing terrace
No hassle parking
Good pubs nearby
Good open honest football

Bring A Fan To ALty   (BAFTA) ... COME ON !!!
 
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: altrincham on January 23, 2008, 12:21:15 PM
Most Alty fans try and bring people to games, the fact is its pretty hard persuading people without a new incentive....
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: CB on January 23, 2008, 12:32:54 PM
I think the problem is getting people who have watched Alty and stopped (because of performances etc) to come back.  I know of 2 that stopped a couple of months into this season, and despite me saying we've improved, are reluctant to come back. I will however keep on at them!
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Longman on January 23, 2008, 12:40:27 PM
"3pm KO's on a Saturday afternoon
Standing terrace
No hassle parking
Good pubs nearby
Good open honest football

Bring A Fan To ALty   (BAFTA) ... COME ON !!!"

HERE HERE!  ;D
 
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: The Fan on January 23, 2008, 12:41:45 PM
The problem with the "bring a mate" policy is that, whether you admit it or not, the product on display can often be very poor. If you spend £12 on a bottle of wine and it doesn't taste very good, the chances are you won't buy it again.

I have brought mates to several games and they have left somewhat disappointed (to put it mildly) by the standard (Grays at home and Northwich on Boxing Day spring to mind).

The fact is that it's highly unlikely that any fan you bring will become an Alty fan - most can watch Utd, City etc on a Saturday afternoon via foreign TV, internet etc. Don't get me wrong, I ask every week and it's obviously worth doing, but it's just not going to double our attendance every week.

To me it's Catch 22 - improve the product, improve those willing to pay for it (but we can't improve the product without more money through the turnstiles).

I hope forum users can see that I'm trying to make a valid point - not trying to p**s on the parade.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: altrincham on January 23, 2008, 12:49:33 PM
Agree with most of that, thats why is suggested targeted games where the punters have a chance of seeing a good passionate match with the added bonus of a price incentive.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 23, 2008, 12:58:39 PM
Woking and Farsley are absolutely massive games for us and could be critical in our bid to stay up. 6 points from them (and 3 more at the Butchers!) would see us going a long way to realising our dream. If it's not too late to organise, these two should be targeted, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Jacko on January 23, 2008, 04:28:27 PM
I think people are quite ignorant about coming to moss lane because they think its unstylish or they see us a pub team,
however i think we are slowly beginning to gain an appeal to these types
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: JT on January 23, 2008, 04:42:17 PM
Going back to where we could advertise these free/cheap junior tickets. Can we not send some out to local schools? Im sure groups of mates would be interested if they were free and weren't doing anything on a saturday afternoon. Even saying that the Woking match is on tv might bring a few down! "By getting your ticket you have a chance of being on the telly!" surely kids will be like flies round sh*t at the stuff!
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Hodgey on January 23, 2008, 05:19:09 PM
I think people are quite ignorant about coming to moss lane because they think its unstylish or they see us a pub team,
however i think we are slowly beginning to gain an appeal to these types

I think this is a very valid point, since the glamour associated with the premiership arrived, a visit to moss lane is not the most appealing to the average football supporter who has started watching football in recent years This is not the fan that will be easy to attract. The supporter who I think would be more likely to visit  Alty is the nostalgic fan, the type that remembers the game before the changes, who could stand with his mates every week, who had a routine that was hassle free, the type of supporter that  continued to follow FC United after the Glazor row faded away. They do exist and probably go to Old Trafford  when then can or have stopped watching football altogether, but they need to be coaxed back!

Go find them and BAFTA !

Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: crossie on January 23, 2008, 06:05:03 PM
Come on my fellow altrincham supporters, its all well and good proposing this idea, but we should implementate it, then we will Know how sussessful the sugestion was.
What we need to do is distribute free junior tickets to all the local schools on monday, lets say give each school 50 tickets each, if they all go then we will no if its going to be successful. Also lets have the Woking game and the Farsley game as BAFTA DAY. PLease as many of you as possible tell friends at, school, College, Uni, Work the Pub even the local randomer in the steet, inform them of the day. If we make posters and print them out in black and white and put them in school registers, shops, take aways and the bus station.

Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: penfold on January 23, 2008, 06:07:37 PM
Come on my fellow altrincham supporters, its all well and good proposing this idea, but we should implementate it, then we will Know how sussessful the sugestion was.
What we need to do is distribute free junior tickets to all the local schools on monday, lets say give each school 50 tickets each, if they all go then we will no if its going to be successful. Also lets have the Woking game and the Farsley game as BAFTA DAY. PLease as many of you as possible tell friends at, school, College, Uni, Work the Pub even the local randomer in the steet, inform them of the day. If we make posters and print them out in black and white and put them in school registers, shops, take aways and the bus station.




This guy is entusiastic, well done a most inspiring post.
Come on lets get together and tell the club of this idea and lets try it out next thursday and see if its works
To BAFTA DAY
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Hodgey on January 23, 2008, 07:23:46 PM
Come on my fellow altrincham supporters, its all well and good proposing this idea, but we should implementate it, then we will Know how sussessful the sugestion was.
What we need to do is distribute free junior tickets to all the local schools on monday, lets say give each school 50 tickets each, if they all go then we will no if its going to be successful. Also lets have the Woking game and the Farsley game as BAFTA DAY. PLease as many of you as possible tell friends at, school, College, Uni, Work the Pub even the local randomer in the steet, inform them of the day. If we make posters and print them out in black and white and put them in school registers, shops, take aways and the bus station.


Well in Hale Alty ! It is possible as I have managed to convince 15 work collegues to go to the Crawley game and hope to break the twenty mark. I am obviously in and I will be raising the profile of BAFTA day, lets start the ball rolling............ any more takers?
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: altyvilla on January 23, 2008, 08:45:45 PM
Villa fan here.  I've lived in Alty for a few years now and must admit I've been down a few times in the last few seasons even went to the Saltdump down the road for the 1-1 last season.  However, due to purchasing a season ticket for my own club opportunities have been slim to come to Moss Lane.  However after reading your pleas for support myself and a Leicester City supporting mate will definitely be attending the Farsley Celtic game and we'll see what we can do for the Woking game.  We've got others who can maybe be kicked along as well.

In terms of ideas I think you have to get them young and initiatives aimed at kids and young people are the best bet.

Good luck with everything you do to get the attendances back up,  I've always enjoyed the atmos at Moss Lane and the all the usual advantages of watching lower league football: friendly, pubs, singing, standing up (you lucky gits) etc etc

Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Hodgey on January 23, 2008, 08:56:03 PM
Villa fan here.  I've lived in Alty for a few years now and must admit I've been down a few times in the last few seasons even went to the Saltdump down the road for the 1-1 last season.  However, due to purchasing a season ticket for my own club opportunities have been slim to come to Moss Lane.  However after reading your pleas for support myself and a Leicester City supporting mate will definitely be attending the Farsley Celtic game and we'll see what we can do for the Woking game.  We've got others who can maybe be kicked along as well.

In terms of ideas I think you have to get them young and initiatives aimed at kids and young people are the best bet.

Good luck with everything you do to get the attendances back up,  I've always enjoyed the atmos at Moss Lane and the all the usual advantages of watching lower league football: friendly, pubs, singing, standing up (you lucky gits) etc etc



That is fantastic, your winning the furthest supporter for BAFTA by far ! have a good trip and thanks !
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Ballers on January 23, 2008, 09:10:56 PM
Villa fan here.  I've lived in Alty for a few years now and must admit I've been down a few times in the last few seasons even went to the Saltdump down the road for the 1-1 last season.  However, due to purchasing a season ticket for my own club opportunities have been slim to come to Moss Lane.  However after reading your pleas for support myself and a Leicester City supporting mate will definitely be attending the Farsley Celtic game and we'll see what we can do for the Woking game.  We've got others who can maybe be kicked along as well.

In terms of ideas I think you have to get them young and initiatives aimed at kids and young people are the best bet.

Good luck with everything you do to get the attendances back up,  I've always enjoyed the atmos at Moss Lane and the all the usual advantages of watching lower league football: friendly, pubs, singing, standing up (you lucky gits) etc etc



Good stuff Villa.

Is it true that you lot still sing songs to Birmingham on derby day about us knocking them out of the FA Cup?
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: JT on January 23, 2008, 09:11:07 PM
Villa fan here.  I've lived in Alty for a few years now and must admit I've been down a few times in the last few seasons even went to the Saltdump down the road for the 1-1 last season.  However, due to purchasing a season ticket for my own club opportunities have been slim to come to Moss Lane.  However after reading your pleas for support myself and a Leicester City supporting mate will definitely be attending the Farsley Celtic game and we'll see what we can do for the Woking game.  We've got others who can maybe be kicked along as well.

In terms of ideas I think you have to get them young and initiatives aimed at kids and young people are the best bet.

Good luck with everything you do to get the attendances back up,  I've always enjoyed the atmos at Moss Lane and the all the usual advantages of watching lower league football: friendly, pubs, singing, standing up (you lucky gits) etc etc


That is fantastic to see, thank you for your support
When you see posts like that it makes you rpoud to be a fan of the club in my eyes
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: markecky on January 23, 2008, 10:55:55 PM
Good man Villa.  Make sure you and the lads get behind the goal with the noisy bunch..all welcome!
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: The Fan on January 24, 2008, 08:39:41 AM

What about using the Woking game as a "free kids" initiative. Whilst opinions on Thursday night football, Setanta etc may be mixed, it would be nice to give them a fairly sizeable crowd to look at.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: samba on January 24, 2008, 10:06:17 AM
I honestly think this is all fantastic.  I've got quite a few mates who I've been trying to persuade to come, and they've all tentatively agreed, but I think the cost has always been a factor (we're dirty students).  If there was some sort of one in one half price I think it would tip the balance.

Or I'll just tell them it's BAFTA day.  That might work :).  I'll make sure they're there.
Come on Alty!
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Longman on January 24, 2008, 10:27:17 AM
Villa fan here.  I've lived in Alty for a few years now and must admit I've been down a few times in the last few seasons even went to the Saltdump down the road for the 1-1 last season.  However, due to purchasing a season ticket for my own club opportunities have been slim to come to Moss Lane.  However after reading your pleas for support myself and a Leicester City supporting mate will definitely be attending the Farsley Celtic game and we'll see what we can do for the Woking game.  We've got others who can maybe be kicked along as well.

In terms of ideas I think you have to get them young and initiatives aimed at kids and young people are the best bet.

Good luck with everything you do to get the attendances back up,  I've always enjoyed the atmos at Moss Lane and the all the usual advantages of watching lower league football: friendly, pubs, singing, standing up (you lucky gits) etc etc



Nice one Villa!  The Golf Road probabably ain't as loud as the Holte End but they're some real passionate Alty fans in there.

Perhaps we could muster some kind of feeder club relationship between Villa and Alty?  You know the score, we take your young players on loan etc,  ;D ;)

Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: altyvilla on January 24, 2008, 12:14:59 PM
Villa fan here.  I've lived in Alty for a few years now and must admit I've been down a few times in the last few seasons even went to the Saltdump down the road for the 1-1 last season.  However, due to purchasing a season ticket for my own club opportunities have been slim to come to Moss Lane.  However after reading your pleas for support myself and a Leicester City supporting mate will definitely be attending the Farsley Celtic game and we'll see what we can do for the Woking game.  We've got others who can maybe be kicked along as well.

In terms of ideas I think you have to get them young and initiatives aimed at kids and young people are the best bet.

Good luck with everything you do to get the attendances back up,  I've always enjoyed the atmos at Moss Lane and the all the usual advantages of watching lower league football: friendly, pubs, singing, standing up (you lucky gits) etc etc



Good stuff Villa.

Is it true that you lot still sing songs to Birmingham on derby day about us knocking them out of the FA Cup?

Indeeed we do ballers.

To the tune of "the Laughing Policeman"

There was a team called City,
they came from Birmingham,
they got knocked out the fa cup by non league altrincham,
was in the final minute, the referee blew up,
and now those bluenose b*st*rds are out the fa cup

Oh aha ha ha ha ha ha ha,
ha ha ha ha etc.

Not heard on the Holte for many a day but there seems to be a reprise of many old songs recently and I've seen this one bandied about so you never know it may make a comeback.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: altyvilla on January 24, 2008, 12:21:17 PM
Good man Villa.  Make sure you and the lads get behind the goal with the noisy bunch..all welcome!

I normally join in with the singing lot when I do come down, I think you've got cracking support for such a small fanbase, you certainly put the likes of Wigan, Blackburn and Bolton to shame from what I'[ve seen of their away support down at VP.

You've also got a good range of songs as well, particularly the greasy chip butty song, classic....
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: altyvilla on January 24, 2008, 12:36:35 PM
Villa fan here.  I've lived in Alty for a few years now and must admit I've been down a few times in the last few seasons even went to the Saltdump down the road for the 1-1 last season.  However, due to purchasing a season ticket for my own club opportunities have been slim to come to Moss Lane.  However after reading your pleas for support myself and a Leicester City supporting mate will definitely be attending the Farsley Celtic game and we'll see what we can do for the Woking game.  We've got others who can maybe be kicked along as well.

In terms of ideas I think you have to get them young and initiatives aimed at kids and young people are the best bet.

Good luck with everything you do to get the attendances back up,  I've always enjoyed the atmos at Moss Lane and the all the usual advantages of watching lower league football: friendly, pubs, singing, standing up (you lucky gits) etc etc



Nice one Villa!  The Golf Road probabably ain't as loud as the Holte End but they're some real passionate Alty fans in there.

Perhaps we could muster some kind of feeder club relationship between Villa and Alty?  You know the score, we take your young players on loan etc,  ;D ;)



Longman

Love the passion you get down at Alty and for a club of your size you can be rightly proud of the noise you make.  I love the "Can you sing without your drum" chant usually shuts up the prepubescent

You'll have to speak to the Messiah MON about players.  The trouble for clubs like Altrincham is that Premiership clubs wouldn't let there youth starlets play at this level.  For instance we 've got three out on loan at the moment, One at port vale, one at Southampton and one at Yeovil so you can see the problem.  Some of these youth players are that good they can get into the first teams of Championship sides.

I notice recently that Graham Barrow has arrived.  (Did he have involvment with you as a player back in the day?)  Barrow is a great man to have around.  I used to live in Chester and went down the Deva a fair bit (I know I know  ;)) when he was around the club in the 90's and he did reasonably well as their Manager.

Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Hodgey on January 24, 2008, 09:01:54 PM
BAFTA - Altrinchan v Farsley
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: Butty on January 24, 2008, 09:25:49 PM
Definately been bumping up the Woking match at school, always 2 or 3 lads who come down to midweek matches for the atmsphere, getting a few more and using the incentive to get on tele.
Title: Re: Increasing our attendences
Post by: starjammer on January 25, 2008, 09:56:06 PM
If I was a fair-weather supporter, I'd be impressed by the support of the Jorvick Ultras.
Quite simply that kind of thing adds to the 'experience' if your a fair-weather supporter
I was amazed at the impact Newcastle fans make when they adopted the Juve thing of twirling their scarves, at Premiership games I've been too.
I think we could learn a thing of two from the Italians here - like other clubs have.
I'd like to suggest we all chip in for some serious flags and add a bit of colour to the proceedings...