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Title: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: HashtagAlty on August 01, 2022, 09:08:06 AM
Altrincham 3-0 MUFC

Concerns? What concerns.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 01, 2022, 09:58:16 AM
Altrincham 3-0 MUFC

Concerns? What concerns.

Very punchy!
Any win will do for me.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: rorysgrandad on August 01, 2022, 10:58:35 AM
I think we’re well prepared and capable of giving a good account of ourselves. I haven’t a clue about Maidstone and what they have to offer.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: distancetraveller on August 01, 2022, 11:31:00 AM
I think we’re well prepared and capable of giving a good account of ourselves. I haven’t a clue about Maidstone and what they have to offer.

Newly promoted, will be keen. However, from what I’ve seen I think that we will have too much for them so,

Alty 3-1 Maidstone

Alty start the new season with a win,

Att 1683
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 01, 2022, 11:45:57 AM
I think it'll be a drab affair.

0-0 or a 1-0 win.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: HashtagAlty on August 01, 2022, 02:19:36 PM
I think it'll be a drab affair.

0-0 or a 1-0 win.

So many negative types on here 😂
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 01, 2022, 04:05:14 PM
I think it'll be a drab affair.

0-0 or a 1-0 win.

So many negative types on here 😂

Funnily enough I've always been a grumpy bugger when it comes to matchday predictions.

I'm normally closer than most!
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: robininstockport on August 01, 2022, 05:15:07 PM
                             Byrne

Roxborough   Mullarekey    Jones     Baines

                 Osbourne      Lundstram

       Colclough    Samizadeh   Hussain

                            Hulme

Guess Baines can play LB, hoping Lundstram is fit and Hulme just about gets the nod over Dinanga.



                   
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 01, 2022, 07:13:48 PM
An interesting selection, but no more likely than the way that I would set up :

                                      Byrne

  Jones.             Mullarkey.              Cooper.            Baines

           Conn-Clarke.     Lundstram.     Osborne.   Colclough

                                       Hulme

                                       Dinanga


What PP has in mind is anybody's guess.

Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 01, 2022, 07:39:22 PM
It's great to have several viable options isn't it?
I wouldn't be surprised this season, with the greater amount of time to work with the squad, if different line ups were used to counteract opposition challenges. We've previously never previously had that luxury.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Ballers on August 01, 2022, 08:10:41 PM
Just win.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Sarf London Alty on August 01, 2022, 09:08:53 PM
A good game to start this, a proper traditional non league ‘name’ who should bring a few and a club we haven’t played for donkeys since they reformed.

It will be intriguing to watch a new look and fairly young side take to the field for us. Over the course of the season I have no doubts, but they may need some time to gel. Other than Colclough and Osborne I wouldn’t like to call most of the midfield/attacking slots so will be very intriguing to see who Parky goes with.

Last season our strength was putting away those sides in the bottom third of the league at home. Maidstone though had the best defence in the Conference South last season and have kept a lot of their promotion squad together so will be a challenge. Overall though if we are to enjoy another season of progress and well clear from the bottom 4 then this is the kind of game we need to win and I expect us too albeit a tight affair. I’ll go 2-1 Alty in front of 1,845 with 123 away fans.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: rorysgrandad on August 02, 2022, 08:24:42 AM
Just win.
I’ll vote for this.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 02, 2022, 09:00:58 AM
Just win.
I’ll vote for this.

Me too. 100%.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: andrewflynn on August 02, 2022, 09:13:45 AM
Is Barrows definitely out? On the assumption that he is, I expect:

Byrne

Jones, Mullarkey, Baines, Brockbank

Lundstram

Osborne, Conn-Clarke

Pringle, Hulme, Colclough

---------

If it was me, I would start Dinanga, but you can't 'drop' your captain on the opening day. I just think half the battle with strikers is mental and I would reward him for the two goals last weekend.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 02, 2022, 09:41:22 AM
Dinanga will probably come on at the hour mark I would have thought.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: HashtagAlty on August 02, 2022, 10:08:32 AM
Dinanga will probably come on at the hour mark I would have thought.

Hope we dont have Marcus becoming the Tom Peers 68-72 minute sub; if we can spot it, I imagine scouts might.

If Marcus can stay onside; he will score a few.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: oneedham on August 02, 2022, 11:59:40 AM
 
                        Byrne

Jackson, Mullarkey, Jones, Brockbank

     Lundstram     Osborne
         
            Conn-Clarke

Samizadeh  Hulme  Colclough

Not seen any friendly games and still gutted about Kossy and more so Marriott, but a chance for others to prove themselves.

Depending how good the PNE lad is then maybe him in for Con-Clarke. Hopefuliy Samizadeh has a run of games.

Would start as we mean to go on with Mularkey and Jones at CB. Anyone know what is up with Burrows?
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: hsmith1 on August 02, 2022, 01:25:19 PM
i will more than likely miss this game,as we are out for most of the afternoon : (
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: rorysgrandad on August 02, 2022, 03:37:18 PM
i will more than likely miss this game,as we are out for most of the afternoon : (
Does this mean those who predict the crowd should reduce their prediction by one?
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: distancetraveller on August 02, 2022, 03:50:22 PM

                        Byrne

Jackson, Mullarkey, Jones, Brockbank

     Lundstram     Osborne
         
            Conn-Clarke

Samizadeh  Hulme  Colclough

Not seen any friendly games and still gutted about Kossy and more so Marriott, but a chance for others to prove themselves.

Depending how good the PNE lad is then maybe him in for Con-Clarke. Hopefuliy Samizadeh has a run of games.

Would start as we mean to go on with Mularkey and Jones at CB. Anyone know what is up with Burrows?

Apparently has a knock which he will miss the first couple of games
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: oneedham on August 02, 2022, 04:31:58 PM

                        Byrne

Jackson, Mullarkey, Jones, Brockbank

     Lundstram     Osborne
         
            Conn-Clarke

Samizadeh  Hulme  Colclough

Not seen any friendly games and still gutted about Kossy and more so Marriott, but a chance for others to prove themselves.

Depending how good the PNE lad is then maybe him in for Con-Clarke. Hopefuliy Samizadeh has a run of games.

Would start as we mean to go on with Mularkey and Jones at CB. Anyone know what is up with Burrows?

Apparently has a knock which he will miss the first couple of games
 

Thanks
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 02, 2022, 09:17:46 PM
I think the new lad might go straight in:

                          Byrne

Mullarkey  Jones  Baines  Brockbank

              Lundstram  Osborne

   Conn-Clarke  Bennett  Colclough

                          Hulme
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 02, 2022, 10:35:07 PM
I think the new lad might go straight in:

                          Byrne

Mullarkey  Jones  Baines  Brockbank

              Lundstram  Osborne

   Conn-Clarke  Bennett  Colclough

                          Hulme

That's the team for me too.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Alty Dave on August 05, 2022, 08:01:18 AM
Looking forward to the new season. Let's hope we can get up and running early. Parky will pick the right team I'm sure.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Ballers on August 05, 2022, 09:10:35 AM
I think the new lad might go straight in:

                          Byrne

Mullarkey  Jones  Baines  Brockbank

              Lundstram  Osborne

   Conn-Clarke  Bennett  Colclough

                          Hulme

Whatever the make of the back four I’d be surprised if Toby is shunted out to right back
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 05, 2022, 12:06:13 PM
I think the new lad might go straight in:

                          Byrne

Mullarkey  Jones  Baines  Brockbank

              Lundstram  Osborne

   Conn-Clarke  Bennett  Colclough

                          Hulme

Whatever the make of the back four I’d be surprised if Toby is shunted out to right back

Played there last Saturday, so it must be in PP's thinking.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: HashtagAlty on August 05, 2022, 12:52:13 PM
Baines can play full-back.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 05, 2022, 02:19:29 PM
Baines can play full-back.

He'd be a more natural left back though; I'd be surprised if Brockbank didn't start, whereas on the other side I don't think Roxburgh will be considered ready.

Given the relative riches at our disposal at centre back, I do expect Toby to play at right back like he did last week.

Would pose an interesting dilemma further down the line if Jones/Baines do well together and Barrows returns to fitness.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Alty Bri on August 05, 2022, 02:27:30 PM
Can't see anything other than JJ and Toby in the central positions.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: robininstockport on August 05, 2022, 02:53:08 PM
Can't see anything other than JJ and Toby in the central positions.

Neither can I
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: HashtagAlty on August 05, 2022, 03:03:12 PM
Can't see anything other than JJ and Toby in the central positions.

Which is why I think Baines might be deployed in another role at FB.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 05, 2022, 03:53:03 PM
Can't see anything other than JJ and Toby in the central positions.

Which is why I think Baines might be deployed in another role at FB.

I totally agree.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: distancetraveller on August 05, 2022, 06:44:43 PM
We will find out in about 20 hrs from now
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: altyusa on August 06, 2022, 03:27:08 PM
Not a great start so far….. :(
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 06, 2022, 04:04:47 PM
Not a great start so far….. :(

We were dreadful for half an hour but the last 15 was a world of difference - we stayed patient, got our foot on the ball, found feet and the chances started to roll in thick and fast - crucial we got that equaliser.

The front three behind Jordan have grown into the game and proving to be handful.

Bad time to get the half time whistle but at least we got the goal, hopefully we kick on now.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 06, 2022, 05:27:30 PM
Twelfth in the league after the first game!
I think I'd settle for that at the end of the season! 😉
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: oneedham on August 06, 2022, 05:36:20 PM
Frustrating afternoon.

We were terrible for the first 30 mins.

Awful officials, yet again.

Brockbank grew into the game but he isn't the answer to LB. He will get destroyed by a lot of wide players in this league.

I would be thinking of playing Baines LB. We need to have Toby and JJ playing CB, even though I thought Toby had a good game. Hopefully Burrows is back soon.

Impressed with Bennett. Would like to see him play number 10 and have Sami out wide. Chris Con-Clarke did well but often runs into trouble.

Thought Parky messed his subs up. Ridiculous how Sami didn't come on. Both Bennett and Con-Clarke were shattered and they had 10 men. Needed that direct player to run them. He waited far too long to make a change.

Shouldn't dwell but Marriott is such a big loss to us. Midfield grew into the game but Osborne hasn't the engine of Marriott.

Need make it priority to get Byrne's clearance sorted with the Welsh FA. Gould makes me nervous.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 06, 2022, 06:15:03 PM
Frustrating afternoon.

We were terrible for the first 30 mins.

Awful officials, yet again.

Brockbank grew into the game but he isn't the answer to LB. He will get destroyed by a lot of wide players in this league.

I would be thinking of playing Baines LB. We need to have Toby and JJ playing CB, even though I thought Toby had a good game. Hopefully Burrows is back soon.

Impressed with Bennett. Would like to see him play number 10 and have Sami out wide. Chris Con-Clarke did well but often runs into trouble.

Thought Parky messed his subs up. Ridiculous how Sami didn't come on. Both Bennett and Con-Clarke were shattered and they had 10 men. Needed that direct player to run them. He waited far too long to make a change.

Shouldn't dwell but Marriott is such a big loss to us. Midfield grew into the game but Osborne hasn't the engine of Marriott.

Need make it priority to get Byrne's clearance sorted with the Welsh FA. Gould makes me nervous.

Definitely agree about the subs - I can't stand it when players aren't given enough time to make an impact - was a breath of fresh air watching the Lionesses manager Weigman give the subs a good half hour - it's not rocket science, Dinanga should have had longer too.

We were better when Lundstram and Osborne started pushing up, which they should have been doing long before they went down to ten.

I disagree about Gould, I thought he was decent and made that incredible finger tip save with the 1 on 1 in the first half that could have had the game out of sight.

Would have expected Conn-Clarke and Bennett to be the other way round to be honest.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: oneedham on August 06, 2022, 06:22:52 PM
Frustrating afternoon.

We were terrible for the first 30 mins.

Awful officials, yet again.

Brockbank grew into the game but he isn't the answer to LB. He will get destroyed by a lot of wide players in this league.

I would be thinking of playing Baines LB. We need to have Toby and JJ playing CB, even though I thought Toby had a good game. Hopefully Burrows is back soon.

Impressed with Bennett. Would like to see him play number 10 and have Sami out wide. Chris Con-Clarke did well but often runs into trouble.

Thought Parky messed his subs up. Ridiculous how Sami didn't come on. Both Bennett and Con-Clarke were shattered and they had 10 men. Needed that direct player to run them. He waited far too long to make a change.

Shouldn't dwell but Marriott is such a big loss to us. Midfield grew into the game but Osborne hasn't the engine of Marriott.

Need make it priority to get Byrne's clearance sorted with the Welsh FA. Gould makes me nervous.

Definitely agree about the subs - I can't stand it when players aren't given enough time to make an impact - was a breath of fresh air watching the Lionesses manager Weigman give the subs a good half hour - it's not rocket science, Dinanga should have had longer too.

We were better when Lundstram and Osborne started pushing up, which they should have been doing long before they went down to ten.

I disagree about Gould, I thought he was decent and made that incredible finger tip save with the 1 on 1 in the first half that could have had the game out of sight.

Would have expected Conn-Clarke and Bennett to be the other way round to be honest.

Defo would like to see Bennett at no.10. Like a fitter Durrell.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Ian Harwood (Hale Alty) on August 06, 2022, 06:59:52 PM
I missed the teams being read out so didn't realise it was Gould in goal and was thinking how secure and reliable the new bloke seemed compared with Thompson.

Some players not match fit I reckon, and couldn't say for sure on the refereeing decisions. Alty had more than enough chances to put this one away but were wasteful. Enough to be optimistic about and I was certainly entertained, although doubt i'll be going to every game at £19 a pop.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Mick on August 06, 2022, 07:01:35 PM
Awful result. We won't play many teams that poor all season. A clueless first 30 mins.

Some impressive performances from several players.

Woeful referee, got the penalty decision wrong and got the second yellow wrong. Two big decisions.

As said earlier, against a tiring 10 men, why leave fresh legs so bloody late.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Is this it? on August 06, 2022, 07:17:31 PM
Frustrating afternoon, given that we should have had all 3 points.  It's fair too say that Maidstone made us look rank average for the first half hour, but I was impressed with what I saw when we stepped up and I've no doubt that the oppo will be thanking their lucky stars that they left ML with a point.  Why, having got he equaliser and threatened to put them to the sword, we then stepped off the gas when the game isn't won, I'll never know, but that seems to be the Alty way

Thought the new boys equipped themselves well, although C-C held onto the ball a tad too long once or twice when a deft offload would have been the right move to make.  Gould did well; his finger-tip save was outstanding and stopped us from going 2-down, and his distribution was generally good (and better the TT's).

Disappointingly, the refereeing was woeful from start to finish and may well have cost us the game (I'll be interested to see the penalty appeal and Dining's goal that was judged offside to see whether they were the correct decisions).

I'd gone hoping for a win but expecting us to lose (given the weight of expectation) so a draw is OK, I suppose.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: distancetraveller on August 06, 2022, 07:54:50 PM
The fact that the Welsh FA didn’t send the registration in time is absolutely disgusting. It smacks of poor admin on both the part of the Welsh FA and Alty should have been banging on doors at the Welsh FA days ago. It’s not as if we have only just got Byrne.

If it was Gareth Bale it would have been done instantly.

Disgraceful admin
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: altyusa on August 06, 2022, 08:00:45 PM
On RR Brian remarked that the linesman who flagged the late goal offside had flagged every single offside all afternoon 🤷🏼‍♂️  The RR guys thought Dinanga was definitely onside so surmised the flag must have been on Colclough.   Suffice to say, they didn’t seem overly impressed with the officiating.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: that man showler on August 06, 2022, 08:08:58 PM
Disappointing attendance today with city or united not playing I was hoping for more 2500 just over 1700 is quite poor TBH.the game itself totally over shadowed by a joke of a referee and his assistants two blatent penalties waved away and the amount of times he stopped the game for little niggles was embarrassing hopefully never see them at ML again but unfortunately will probably ref one of away games.Did PP get a yellow card aswell?awful start to the game unfortunate OG but for the first 25 mins we were awful hopefully just nerves,second half no contest tore them to shreds but no end result.lots of positives today.we will hold or own this season that I am sure,Bromley next onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 06, 2022, 08:23:44 PM
I sincerely hope that we won't get another set of officials like today's in any of the remaining 45 matches. They collectively took ineptitude to new levels. We'll play worse than that and win. Maidstone will struggle this season.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: TheGolfRoadView on August 06, 2022, 08:34:59 PM
Agree about the crowd, I was expecting at least 2000, going by last season and with City and Utd not playing. An earlier post mentioned the £19.00 price. A 12% increase from last season, especially in the current economic situation, is maybe going to put off the casual fan and I wonder if that may turn out to be a mistake.  As for the game, thought overall we should have won, without playing brilliantly, and at times lacking creativity. At least in the 2nd half we played more football on the deck, compared to the long ball approach of the 1st half. As for the pen it was certainly one of those which you have see given, but with Ryan Colclough he falls over so easily at times that it's always for me, hard to know whether he has been fouled. Wait for the highlights I guess.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: distancetraveller on August 06, 2022, 08:35:25 PM
Maidstone number 2 Hoyte spent the afternoon tugging Colcloughs shirt or whichever other Alty player was nearest to him. The ref was hopeless and the Lino on the pop side wasn’t any better

Officials in this league ruin half the games played.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: oneedham on August 06, 2022, 08:38:43 PM
Maidstone number 2 Hoyte spent the afternoon tugging Colcloughs shirt or whichever other Alty player was nearest to him. The ref was hopeless and the Lino on the pop side wasn’t any better

Officials in this league ruin half the games played.

Their No.2 was not only sh*t but had a bad  attitude. Officials killed that game.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: rorysgrandad on August 07, 2022, 07:36:20 AM
Disappointing attendance today with city or united not playing I was hoping for more 2500 just over 1700 is quite poor TBH.the game itself totally over shadowed by a joke of a referee and his assistants two blatent penalties waved away and the amount of times he stopped the game for little niggles was embarrassing hopefully never see them at ML again but unfortunately will probably ref one of away games.Did PP get a yellow card aswell?awful start to the game unfortunate OG but for the first 25 mins we were awful hopefully just nerves,second half no contest tore them to shreds but no end result.lots of positives today.we will hold or own this season that I am sure,Bromley next onwards and upwards.
I think the £19 and £15 is probably an issue to the casual attendees. I was expecting a healthy 2K plus attendance yesterday and was surprised how sparse the terraces were especially as United and City both play today. It’s going to be interesting to see how our crowds go this season. It was far from a cold rainy Tuesday night yesterday.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Randy Konk on August 07, 2022, 08:57:18 AM
Difficult balance this. Full time football doesn’t come cheap and some tough financial decisions have to be made. I agree that some people will be put off by £19 though. I thought we played well after a very sticky first 30 mins where we didn’t seem to have a plan. I also thought Maidstone were a real threat, will do OK this season I reckon…
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Alty Bri on August 07, 2022, 10:36:00 AM
£19 and the fact that some people (like myself) are still away on holiday. These prices will need looking at as the season progresses.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Sarf London Alty on August 07, 2022, 11:15:46 AM
Purely on the crowd I also think just as our crowds were growing last season we then had the whole issue with the council (I wonder if the in-house grass will ever be outed) and the fanzone. They understandably don’t want to put a date on it but I’ve heard Chesterfield or Wealdstone, I think if we get the food and drink offer right in that area that will drive people to come too. For your casual fan that stuff will make a difference.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Hugh on August 07, 2022, 02:07:25 PM
I stood by the CSH at the end of the first half yesterday and went straight in at half time but still barely had time to finish my drink before the second half started. We badly need facilities to return to the "fan zone" corner if we are going to get these sort of crowds regularly.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Thomas H on August 07, 2022, 02:13:08 PM
Not such a great game  (not sure if the ref had something to do with that),  both teams on that performance will be in the bottom half league) as Parky suggested it will be difficult)  They (MUFC)  could have been 2 up prior to our twenty minute spell either side of HT and we were unlucky not to score another goal. The sending off changed the game and I didn’t blame MUFC  for there time wasting after a poor decision by the very poor referee and even worse linesman, I really didn’t think he saw the incident, his decision on the penalty shout was mind boggling. We were poor against 10 men (something to work on at Knutsford).
The young lad Bennet had a good game for 60 minutes and faded(not unexpected)
The new LB needs to improve but maybe nerves were playing a part there.
Con Clarke might improve and pass the ball quicker but not necessarily the answer.
Our back two were great, Mullarkey isn’t a full back but find it hard to think he will shift either centre back.
Let’s hope the Welsh FA get their finger out quick.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: HashtagAlty on August 07, 2022, 04:28:13 PM
Difficult balance this. Full time football doesn’t come cheap and some tough financial decisions have to be made. I agree that some people will be put off by £19 though. I thought we played well after a very sticky first 30 mins where we didn’t seem to have a plan. I also thought Maidstone were a real threat, will do OK this season I reckon…

Casual fan will go the for the experience:

Did we win
Did they have good food and drink
Was it convenient (can they get in at 2:535/45/55 and can they get home for half 5 rather than queuing for trams from).

Winning teams with a good atmosphere will dictate whether 19 pound is good value. It was £12.50 to go RHS Bridgewater today
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: hsmith1 on August 07, 2022, 04:53:59 PM
do us pensioners have to pay £19 or is there a  lower rate for us?
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Ian Harwood (Hale Alty) on August 07, 2022, 05:02:08 PM
I started go to Alty again after being a fairly irregular watcher in the 70s/80s for the 94/95 season and got hooked. Handy for home, not expensive to get in, lots of local away games, lots midweek too, relaxed atmosphere, stand where you want, i could go on. That's all gone now. I doubt I'll go to an away game this season and at £19 I don't think I'll go to every home game, especially if the team go on a losing run. I want entertainment, and if I ain't getting entertained I'm not paying for torture. I barely went in the recent relegation seasons, but I went to a lot in the Evostik and following NLN seasons. Why? Because it was fun, entertaining, relaxed (stand where you want  (pretty much)), bring your own sandwiches, lots of away games not too far away, and not too much to get in.

So in a nutshell I miss the non-league experience you got following Alty up to quite recently. That's definitely gone now - segregation, stewards every six feet, no leaning on the fence, security scans outside the ground.

I stopped going to the speedway at Belle Vue when getting in , parking and buying a programme started costing over twenty quid, and i wasn't the only one judging by the paltry attendances they get. I don't buy a programme at Alty or use the catering, but it doesn't seem that many years ago that paying £20 at Luton seemed a helluva a lot of money to watch a football match. £19 at Alty now seems a lot, especially when you look at the state of the place you're paying to go in to.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: SW on August 07, 2022, 05:15:32 PM
Last season Woking and Bromley were £20, Halifax might have even been £21. A quick search shows SC**thorpe are charging £22 early bird and £25 on the day. Unfortunately it is what it costs at this level where admission is not subsidised by TV. The club need to cover costs I don’t think it’s too bad for this level.
Harold I think it might be £15 for pensioners.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Mick on August 07, 2022, 05:23:11 PM
I have been told by different sources - one being a club officual - that leaning on the popside barrier is being reinstated.
It is where I have stood, with many others, for the last 19 seasons as a ST holder (casual attendee before that picking out games from the S&A Messenger). Hopefully sorted soon because the popside terrace does not have anywhere that offers an unrestricted view of the whole pitch.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: rorysgrandad on August 07, 2022, 05:29:27 PM
do us pensioners have to pay £19 or is there a  lower rate for us?
£15 old codgers
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 07, 2022, 05:45:12 PM
I started go to Alty again after being a fairly irregular watcher in the 70s/80s for the 94/95 season and got hooked. Handy for home, not expensive to get in, lots of local away games, lots midweek too, relaxed atmosphere, stand where you want, i could go on. That's all gone now. I doubt I'll go to an away game this season and at £19 I don't think I'll go to every home game, especially if the team go on a losing run. I want entertainment, and if I ain't getting entertained I'm not paying for torture. I barely went in the recent relegation seasons, but I went to a lot in the Evostik and following NLN seasons. Why? Because it was fun, entertaining, relaxed (stand where you want  (pretty much)), bring your own sandwiches, lots of away games not too far away, and not too much to get in.

So in a nutshell I miss the non-league experience you got following Alty up to quite recently. That's definitely gone now - segregation, stewards every six feet, no leaning on the fence, security scans outside the ground.

I stopped going to the speedway at Belle Vue when getting in , parking and buying a programme started costing over twenty quid, and i wasn't the only one judging by the paltry attendances they get. I don't buy a programme at Alty or use the catering, but it doesn't seem that many years ago that paying £20 at Luton seemed a helluva a lot of money to watch a football match. £19 at Alty now seems a lot, especially when you look at the state of the place you're paying to go in to.

I suppose quite a few people prefer football on your terms.
If you want to be supporting a successful professional team in this league, this is what it costs. In fact most sides in the league charge more.
The experience of years ago is nostalgic and appealing but it's a different world that we're striving to move on from to something better in lots of ways. The infrestructure hasn't caught up yet but it will do.
If you want a cheap winning team with crowds in the low hundreds, taking your own butties, you really should be watching Trafford.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: alty.fc on August 07, 2022, 05:46:07 PM
I started go to Alty again after being a fairly irregular watcher in the 70s/80s for the 94/95 season and got hooked. Handy for home, not expensive to get in, lots of local away games, lots midweek too, relaxed atmosphere, stand where you want, i could go on. That's all gone now. I doubt I'll go to an away game this season and at £19 I don't think I'll go to every home game, especially if the team go on a losing run. I want entertainment, and if I ain't getting entertained I'm not paying for torture. I barely went in the recent relegation seasons, but I went to a lot in the Evostik and following NLN seasons. Why? Because it was fun, entertaining, relaxed (stand where you want  (pretty much)), bring your own sandwiches, lots of away games not too far away, and not too much to get in.

So in a nutshell I miss the non-league experience you got following Alty up to quite recently. That's definitely gone now - segregation, stewards every six feet, no leaning on the fence, security scans outside the ground.

I stopped going to the speedway at Belle Vue when getting in , parking and buying a programme started costing over twenty quid, and i wasn't the only one judging by the paltry attendances they get. I don't buy a programme at Alty or use the catering, but it doesn't seem that many years ago that paying £20 at Luton seemed a helluva a lot of money to watch a football match. £19 at Alty now seems a lot, especially when you look at the state of the place you're paying to go in to.
I go whatever the form however I do tend to agree with your last point in terms of the ground overall it's a bit of a catch 22 with needing the money .... However we have found it for the new lounge and VIP area . I do hope the "common" fan is not being left behind somewhat
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Ian Harwood (Hale Alty) on August 07, 2022, 06:16:11 PM
I started go to Alty again after being a fairly irregular watcher in the 70s/80s for the 94/95 season and got hooked. Handy for home, not expensive to get in, lots of local away games, lots midweek too, relaxed atmosphere, stand where you want, i could go on. That's all gone now. I doubt I'll go to an away game this season and at £19 I don't think I'll go to every home game, especially if the team go on a losing run. I want entertainment, and if I ain't getting entertained I'm not paying for torture. I barely went in the recent relegation seasons, but I went to a lot in the Evostik and following NLN seasons. Why? Because it was fun, entertaining, relaxed (stand where you want  (pretty much)), bring your own sandwiches, lots of away games not too far away, and not too much to get in.

So in a nutshell I miss the non-league experience you got following Alty up to quite recently. That's definitely gone now - segregation, stewards every six feet, no leaning on the fence, security scans outside the ground.

I stopped going to the speedway at Belle Vue when getting in , parking and buying a programme started costing over twenty quid, and i wasn't the only one judging by the paltry attendances they get. I don't buy a programme at Alty or use the catering, but it doesn't seem that many years ago that paying £20 at Luton seemed a helluva a lot of money to watch a football match. £19 at Alty now seems a lot, especially when you look at the state of the place you're paying to go in to.

I suppose quite a few people prefer football on your terms.
If you want to be supporting a successful professional team in this league, this is what it costs. In fact most sides in the league charge more.
The experience of years ago is nostalgic and appealing but it's a different world that we're striving to move on from to something better in lots of ways. The infrestructure hasn't caught up yet but it will do.
If you want a cheap winning team with crowds in the low hundreds, taking your own butties, you really should be watching Trafford.

I'd go and watch Warrington but the fence is too low and made my back ache.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Nom de plume on August 07, 2022, 06:17:33 PM
I started go to Alty again after being a fairly irregular watcher in the 70s/80s for the 94/95 season and got hooked. Handy for home, not expensive to get in, lots of local away games, lots midweek too, relaxed atmosphere, stand where you want, i could go on. That's all gone now. I doubt I'll go to an away game this season and at £19 I don't think I'll go to every home game, especially if the team go on a losing run. I want entertainment, and if I ain't getting entertained I'm not paying for torture. I barely went in the recent relegation seasons, but I went to a lot in the Evostik and following NLN seasons. Why? Because it was fun, entertaining, relaxed (stand where you want  (pretty much)), bring your own sandwiches, lots of away games not too far away, and not too much to get in.

So in a nutshell I miss the non-league experience you got following Alty up to quite recently. That's definitely gone now - segregation, stewards every six feet, no leaning on the fence, security scans outside the ground.

I stopped going to the speedway at Belle Vue when getting in , parking and buying a programme started costing over twenty quid, and i wasn't the only one judging by the paltry attendances they get. I don't buy a programme at Alty or use the catering, but it doesn't seem that many years ago that paying £20 at Luton seemed a helluva a lot of money to watch a football match. £19 at Alty now seems a lot, especially when you look at the state of the place you're paying to go in to.
Excellent post. It’s how I feel too.
I’ve been watching since the mid-1950s and have always felt welcomed and needed.
Not now.

I’m only needed if I open my wallet and contribute to the many new revenue streams that have been dreamt up by the board. And I certainly don’t like being phoned to see why I’ve not bought a season ticket this year. The Altrincham and Moss Lane experiences are alien to me now.

I’ve lived in Bury since 1979 and have seen no more than 2 EFL matches since then. I’ve always supported my “home” team instead - Alty. But I think it could be an exciting time to watch football blossom at Gigg Lane once again and I may be tempted to become a regular for the first time in 43 years - the ground is superb, and I can walk to it.

I’m grateful to have lived through the White and Swales years and what has been, and is likely to ever be, the best years of Altrincham FC.

Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: distancetraveller on August 07, 2022, 06:26:58 PM
Two casual fans who came for the first time yesterday stood by me and we’re quite impressed, especially with Coco,  CCC, Aaron Bennett & Toby.

I would like to think they will return.

Nice blokes.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: rorysgrandad on August 07, 2022, 06:32:34 PM
Two casual fans who came for the first time yesterday stood by me and we’re quite impressed, especially with Coco,  CCC, Aaron Bennett & Toby.

I would like to think they will return.

Nice blokes.
Two casual fans who came for the first time yesterday stood by me and we’re quite impressed, especially with Coco,  CCC, Aaron Bennett & Toby.

I would like to think they will return.

Nice blokes.
Hope they weren't scouts on the prowl. 🤔🤔
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: oneedham on August 07, 2022, 07:07:17 PM
I started go to Alty again after being a fairly irregular watcher in the 70s/80s for the 94/95 season and got hooked. Handy for home, not expensive to get in, lots of local away games, lots midweek too, relaxed atmosphere, stand where you want, i could go on. That's all gone now. I doubt I'll go to an away game this season and at £19 I don't think I'll go to every home game, especially if the team go on a losing run. I want entertainment, and if I ain't getting entertained I'm not paying for torture. I barely went in the recent relegation seasons, but I went to a lot in the Evostik and following NLN seasons. Why? Because it was fun, entertaining, relaxed (stand where you want  (pretty much)), bring your own sandwiches, lots of away games not too far away, and not too much to get in.

So in a nutshell I miss the non-league experience you got following Alty up to quite recently. That's definitely gone now - segregation, stewards every six feet, no leaning on the fence, security scans outside the ground.

I stopped going to the speedway at Belle Vue when getting in , parking and buying a programme started costing over twenty quid, and i wasn't the only one judging by the paltry attendances they get. I don't buy a programme at Alty or use the catering, but it doesn't seem that many years ago that paying £20 at Luton seemed a helluva a lot of money to watch a football match. £19 at Alty now seems a lot, especially when you look at the state of the place you're paying to go in to.
Excellent post. It’s how I feel too.
I’ve been watching since the mid-1950s and have always felt welcomed and needed.
Not now.

I’m only needed if I open my wallet and contribute to the many new revenue streams that have been dreamt up by the board. And I certainly don’t like being phoned to see why I’ve not bought a season ticket this year. The Altrincham and Moss Lane experiences are alien to me now.

I’ve lived in Bury since 1979 and have seen no more than 2 EFL matches since then. I’ve always supported my “home” team instead - Alty. But I think it could be an exciting time to watch football blossom at Gigg Lane once again and I may be tempted to become a regular for the first time in 43 years - the ground is superb, and I can walk to it.

I’m grateful to have lived through the White and Swales years and what has been, and is likely to ever be, the best years of Altrincham FC.

Unfortunately we have to roll with the times and our target is to get into the Football League. We have gone full time which means we have to charge more for games, so we can match those who are full time.

The Stewarding was reviewed after the council saga. We 100% needed improvement on that side, not only to look professional but safety. There have been some terrible firms tried , but on Saturday they seemed friendly enough to me.

The club need incentives to generate funds to keep us alive at this level.  Football is a business so they have to be proactive.

I have been going for approx 35 years and yes it is more controlled but it is the same at all grounds from National League above. Same at gigs and why not be searched and wanded??

We unfortunately live in a world where people walk into crowds and blow people up. Alty would be an easy target without security measures.

We have the best management team that I have probably seen and some really talented players. More younger fans come and the atmosphere is decent.

Yes, they need to sort out the service in CSH.

Yes, the Fanzone is a joke and it should be made priority to sort out.

Yes, the ground needs a lot of work but this board were unlucky to have been left with this by years and years of neglect. They are improving it and not sat on their arses.

I am mega excited watching this Alty team.




Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: distancetraveller on August 07, 2022, 07:13:11 PM
Two casual fans who came for the first time yesterday stood by me and we’re quite impressed, especially with Coco,  CCC, Aaron Bennett & Toby.

I would like to think they will return.

Nice blokes.
Two casual fans who came for the first time yesterday stood by me and we’re quite impressed, especially with Coco,  CCC, Aaron Bennett & Toby.

I would like to think they will return.

Nice blokes.
Hope they weren't scouts on the prowl. 🤔🤔

No they were both probably in there 20s who have recently moved to the area.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on August 07, 2022, 07:26:27 PM
I started go to Alty again after being a fairly irregular watcher in the 70s/80s for the 94/95 season and got hooked. Handy for home, not expensive to get in, lots of local away games, lots midweek too, relaxed atmosphere, stand where you want, i could go on. That's all gone now. I doubt I'll go to an away game this season and at £19 I don't think I'll go to every home game, especially if the team go on a losing run. I want entertainment, and if I ain't getting entertained I'm not paying for torture. I barely went in the recent relegation seasons, but I went to a lot in the Evostik and following NLN seasons. Why? Because it was fun, entertaining, relaxed (stand where you want  (pretty much)), bring your own sandwiches, lots of away games not too far away, and not too much to get in.

So in a nutshell I miss the non-league experience you got following Alty up to quite recently. That's definitely gone now - segregation, stewards every six feet, no leaning on the fence, security scans outside the ground.

I stopped going to the speedway at Belle Vue when getting in , parking and buying a programme started costing over twenty quid, and i wasn't the only one judging by the paltry attendances they get. I don't buy a programme at Alty or use the catering, but it doesn't seem that many years ago that paying £20 at Luton seemed a helluva a lot of money to watch a football match. £19 at Alty now seems a lot, especially when you look at the state of the place you're paying to go in to.

I suppose quite a few people prefer football on your terms.
If you want to be supporting a successful professional team in this league, this is what it costs. In fact most sides in the league charge more.
The experience of years ago is nostalgic and appealing but it's a different world that we're striving to move on from to something better in lots of ways. The infrestructure hasn't caught up yet but it will do.
If you want a cheap winning team with crowds in the low hundreds, taking your own butties, you really should be watching Trafford.

I'd go and watch Warrington but the fence is too low and made my back ache.

Glad its not just me then. Plus the ground is cold by September 😄
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: distancetraveller on August 07, 2022, 07:29:17 PM
I started go to Alty again after being a fairly irregular watcher in the 70s/80s for the 94/95 season and got hooked. Handy for home, not expensive to get in, lots of local away games, lots midweek too, relaxed atmosphere, stand where you want, i could go on. That's all gone now. I doubt I'll go to an away game this season and at £19 I don't think I'll go to every home game, especially if the team go on a losing run. I want entertainment, and if I ain't getting entertained I'm not paying for torture. I barely went in the recent relegation seasons, but I went to a lot in the Evostik and following NLN seasons. Why? Because it was fun, entertaining, relaxed (stand where you want  (pretty much)), bring your own sandwiches, lots of away games not too far away, and not too much to get in.

So in a nutshell I miss the non-league experience you got following Alty up to quite recently. That's definitely gone now - segregation, stewards every six feet, no leaning on the fence, security scans outside the ground.

I stopped going to the speedway at Belle Vue when getting in , parking and buying a programme started costing over twenty quid, and i wasn't the only one judging by the paltry attendances they get. I don't buy a programme at Alty or use the catering, but it doesn't seem that many years ago that paying £20 at Luton seemed a helluva a lot of money to watch a football match. £19 at Alty now seems a lot, especially when you look at the state of the place you're paying to go in to.
Excellent post. It’s how I feel too.
I’ve been watching since the mid-1950s and have always felt welcomed and needed.
Not now.

I’m only needed if I open my wallet and contribute to the many new revenue streams that have been dreamt up by the board. And I certainly don’t like being phoned to see why I’ve not bought a season ticket this year. The Altrincham and Moss Lane experiences are alien to me now.

I’ve lived in Bury since 1979 and have seen no more than 2 EFL matches since then. I’ve always supported my “home” team instead - Alty. But I think it could be an exciting time to watch football blossom at Gigg Lane once again and I may be tempted to become a regular for the first time in 43 years - the ground is superb, and I can walk to it.

I’m grateful to have lived through the White and Swales years and what has been, and is likely to ever be, the best years of Altrincham FC.

Unfortunately we have to roll with the times and our target is to get into the Football League. We have gone full time which means we have to charge more for games, so we can match those who are full time.

The Stewarding was reviewed after the council saga. We 100% needed improvement on that side, not only to look professional but safety. There have been some terrible firms tried , but on Saturday they seemed friendly enough to me.

The club need incentives to generate funds to keep us alive at this level.  Football is a business so they have to be proactive.

I have been going for approx 35 years and yes it is more controlled but it is the same at all grounds from National League above. Same at gigs and why not be searched and wanded??

We unfortunately live in a world where people walk into crowds and blow people up. Alty would be an easy target without security measures.

We have the best management team that I have probably seen and some really talented players. More younger fans come and the atmosphere is decent.

Yes, they need to sort out the service in CSH.

Yes, the Fanzone is a joke and it should be made priority to sort out.

Yes, the ground needs a lot of work but this board were unlucky to have been left with this by years and years of neglect. They are improving it and not sat on their arses.

I am mega excited watching this Alty team.

Agree with this post…

I live in Shrewsbury. The football team have never inspired me to want to watch them so I choose to drive the one and half hours to watch Alty.  We enjoy the journey (apart from yesterday when Shropshire & Cheshire highways decided to close the A49 in Cholmondley with not many diversion signs hence the trip took us 2 hrs 20 mins. The drive home was a lot more leisurely and air wasn’t as Blue 😉
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Bob on August 07, 2022, 08:09:56 PM
If we want to progress as a club and even contemplate going beyond this division, let alone stay in it, then we have to accept that we need to be more professional, money savvy and commercially focussed. That or get a sugar daddy in which no doubt would have its own vocal opposition too.

We can't have it both ways on this; you're not going to get the "traditional non-league experience" at this level any more, and I'd rather lose that than see us tumble down the divisions again.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: oneedham on August 07, 2022, 08:20:05 PM
If we want to progress as a club and even contemplate going beyond this division, let alone stay in it, then we have to accept that we need to be more professional, money savvy and commercially focussed. That or get a sugar daddy in which no doubt would have its own vocal opposition too.

We can't have it both ways on this; you're not going to get the "traditional non-league experience" at this level any more, and I'd rather lose that than see us tumble down the divisions again.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 07, 2022, 08:27:10 PM
There's a delicate balancing act between moving the club forwards and forgetting its soul; it aint all about the money, otherwise we'd all be heading to Old Trafford every week or sitting at home with our Sky Sports subscriptions.

For me, my favourite times in recent years was strolling right through the Golf Road End to the wooden Libero hut - which never seemed to be that busy - getting a lovely pint of Pomona Pale, and taking it to the terrace to watch the game.

Now I completely understand I can't have that last bit anymore due to the rules - however, the club had worked so hard to build a community spirit - the LGBT shirts, improved social media etc - now it just seems more... aloof.

On the point of Libero which I appreciate was raised on another thread - they're part of the very fabric of the modern iteration of this club, and I'll be extremely upset if they're not in the club's plans going forward.

And yes, the service in the CSH was shocking. By the time I got served, they'd kicked off the second half.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Sarf London Alty on August 07, 2022, 08:41:05 PM
If we want to progress as a club and even contemplate going beyond this division, let alone stay in it, then we have to accept that we need to be more professional, money savvy and commercially focussed. That or get a sugar daddy in which no doubt would have its own vocal opposition too.

We can't have it both ways on this; you're not going to get the "traditional non-league experience" at this level any more, and I'd rather lose that than see us tumble down the divisions again.

100%. You got the sense in the Rowley years that progress was a dirty word and if the current board wasn’t here we’d be bumbling about the Conference North or worse. If people would rather take us back to 650 at home & losing to the likes of Matlock & Curzon Ashton because the non league experience is purer then that’s not the club for me. People talking about giving up on us because the match day experience is no longer to their tastes as well is a very poor do indeed.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Bob on August 07, 2022, 09:26:11 PM
I started go to Alty again after being a fairly irregular watcher in the 70s/80s for the 94/95 season and got hooked. Handy for home, not expensive to get in, lots of local away games, lots midweek too, relaxed atmosphere, stand where you want, i could go on. That's all gone now. I doubt I'll go to an away game this season and at £19 I don't think I'll go to every home game, especially if the team go on a losing run. I want entertainment, and if I ain't getting entertained I'm not paying for torture. I barely went in the recent relegation seasons, but I went to a lot in the Evostik and following NLN seasons. Why? Because it was fun, entertaining, relaxed (stand where you want  (pretty much)), bring your own sandwiches, lots of away games not too far away, and not too much to get in.

So in a nutshell I miss the non-league experience you got following Alty up to quite recently. That's definitely gone now - segregation, stewards every six feet, no leaning on the fence, security scans outside the ground.

I stopped going to the speedway at Belle Vue when getting in , parking and buying a programme started costing over twenty quid, and i wasn't the only one judging by the paltry attendances they get. I don't buy a programme at Alty or use the catering, but it doesn't seem that many years ago that paying £20 at Luton seemed a helluva a lot of money to watch a football match. £19 at Alty now seems a lot, especially when you look at the state of the place you're paying to go in to.

Maybe remember why you were able to bring your own sandwiches, not have to travel far to away games, stand where you want and have all that fun?

It was because we had two horrid seasons, double relegations, dropped to our lowest level in living memory, protests against the chairman, crap crowds, poisonous atmosphere, manager after manager, losing runs. That's what it took and I never want to see that again.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Seth on August 07, 2022, 09:40:27 PM
I say it every week but the only way that service in the CSH is going to improve is if they start prepouring pints... yes it's not ideal but I don't even bother trying to get served at the bar anymore
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: distancetraveller on August 07, 2022, 09:40:33 PM
There's a delicate balancing act between moving the club forwards and forgetting its soul; it aint all about the money, otherwise we'd all be heading to Old Trafford every week or sitting at home with our Sky Sports subscriptions.

For me, my favourite times in recent years was strolling right through the Golf Road End to the wooden Libero hut - which never seemed to be that busy - getting a lovely pint of Pomona Pale, and taking it to the terrace to watch the game.

Now I completely understand I can't have that last bit anymore due to the rules - however, the club had worked so hard to build a community spirit - the LGBT shirts, improved social media etc - now it just seems more... aloof.

On the point of Libero which I appreciate was raised on another thread - they're part of the very fabric of the modern iteration of this club, and I'll be extremely upset if they're not in the club's plans going forward.

And yes, the service in the CSH was shocking. By the time I got served, they'd kicked off the second half.

Don’t understand what having a Sky subscription has to do with it
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: alty.fc on August 07, 2022, 09:44:53 PM
I say it every week but the only way that service in the CSH is going to improve is if they start prepouring pints... yes it's not ideal but I don't even bother trying to get served at the bar anymore
or put more staff on . Or a bit of both . Pre ordering makes total sense by the way ala George and Jenny
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: distancetraveller on August 07, 2022, 09:44:58 PM
Being a full time setup has to include a professional setup off the field, paying staff rather than expecting volunteers to do it should have been part of the costings of the full time model. 

Employing people will get more people wanting to work for the club thus providing a better service.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: alty.fc on August 07, 2022, 09:48:54 PM
Being a full time setup has to include a professional setup off the field, paying staff rather than expecting volunteers to do it should have been part of the costings of the full time model. 

Employing people will get more people wanting to work for the club thus providing a better service.
very fair point as well . More customers equals more staff required or better operational execution
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Hugh on August 07, 2022, 10:04:51 PM
I say it every week but the only way that service in the CSH is going to improve is if they start prepouring pints... yes it's not ideal but I don't even bother trying to get served at the bar anymore

Maybe not quite true. Trafford had a gazebo with a man selling cans of beer. Not to everyone's taste maybe, but it was quick and effective (another thing I loved about Trafford were those wooden seats. The little things really do matter...).
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Hugh on August 07, 2022, 10:14:04 PM



Maybe remember why you were able to bring your own sandwiches, not have to travel far to away games, stand where you want and have all that fun?

It was because we had two horrid seasons, double relegations, dropped to our lowest level in living memory, protests against the chairman, crap crowds, poisonous atmosphere, manager after manager, losing runs. That's what it took and I never want to see that again.

I seem to remember a poisonous atmosphere when we didn't change a manager as well a few years before that. Rowley got a lot of stick for that too (despite probably being correct on that occasion). But I agree there are plenty of positives at the moment. The thing is to make the changes required to progress whilst taking as many of our longstanding fans with us as possible, and it is always worth discussing what we can do better. I for one wouldn't necessarily consider it progress if we were getting bigger crowds (like MK Dons) but lost many of the supporters we were getting in previous years, and I hope and believe that will not happen. It can't be emphasised enough how important it is to have a long standing supporter who understands the club as chairman.

Anyway, looks like it won't be long until fence standing and the fan zone return, and that will help massively. I only regret that it looks like the old programmes shop won't be returning.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Sale Holmfield on August 07, 2022, 10:48:04 PM
Without venturing into the fraught ground of managerial appointments in the last decade, I tend to agree.

The thing is to keep long standing supporters on board as well, and not just to dismiss concerns with a glib statement such as "times move on" (not aimed at anyone in particular).  Bill does have his own personal  long standing commitment to the club, and I noticed that he did  walk down and "have a word" with the new stewards on Saturday, after which the far third of the Popular Side was opened.

I think what I am saying is there might be one or two more awkward moments, or growing pains, if you like, but there is enough knowledge of the history and spirit of the club on the board, that we should be able to retain all supporters, while being sensitive to their concerns.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Seth on August 08, 2022, 09:24:36 AM
I say it every week but the only way that service in the CSH is going to improve is if they start prepouring pints... yes it's not ideal but I don't even bother trying to get served at the bar anymore

Maybe not quite true. Trafford had a gazebo with a man selling cans of beer. Not to everyone's taste maybe, but it was quick and effective (another thing I loved about Trafford were those wooden seats. The little things really do matter...).

Agreed, we could easily have a separate stall in the CSH offering cans and bottles. Makes absolute sense.

The way the club has responded to poor service in the CSH is offering loyALTY subscribers a jump of the inordinate queue. Recognising the problem without solving it..
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 08, 2022, 09:49:55 AM
Yes. The current situation is not ideal. I can't stand for the length of time it sometimes takes to be served due to my mobility issues. Plus I like two pints before the game so Mrs S has to go for me and juggle two wainwright's and a glass of Red on her own.
The upside (for me) is she gets to pay for them! 😉 😂
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Alty Dave on August 08, 2022, 10:35:06 AM
On a football note, the highlights were excellent as usual. We grew into the game and how we didn't win it beggars belief, cannot see why the penalty was not awarded for a blatant foul and the off side for Dinanga baffles me. Maybe CoCo was running back from offside when receiving the ball, but hats clutching at straws.

Two points dropped, poor officiating and Dinanga should have been on much earlier. Good to be up and running with a point but should have been 3.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: HashtagAlty on August 08, 2022, 10:42:19 AM
Is it me, or do we always start so slowly and finish strong in games? Especially at home.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: andrewflynn on August 08, 2022, 10:44:57 AM
I say it every week but the only way that service in the CSH is going to improve is if they start prepouring pints... yes it's not ideal but I don't even bother trying to get served at the bar anymore

Maybe not quite true. Trafford had a gazebo with a man selling cans of beer. Not to everyone's taste maybe, but it was quick and effective (another thing I loved about Trafford were those wooden seats. The little things really do matter...).

Agreed, we could easily have a separate stall in the CSH offering cans and bottles. Makes absolute sense.

The way the club has responded to poor service in the CSH is offering loyALTY subscribers a jump of the inordinate queue. Recognising the problem without solving it..

This was offered at a few home games last season and seemed to be very popular. I'm not sure why it isn't more consistent because as you say, I'd much rather pay £3 for a cold can poured into a cup, than queue 15 minutes for a £4 pint I have to rush.

Re. the LoyAlty queue, I think it's important to say that this wasn't introduced as a fix for queuing problems, but rather, as a perk for supporting a certain tier of the scheme.

There will always be queueing problems in the CSH as it simply is not set up to meet the demand of however many hundred people wanting a pint within a 15-minute timeframe.

The club has visibly put far more staff on to try and meet the demand, and introduced lane queueing, but it will never be enough. The only suggestion I have to try and make it marginally better is introducing a max order of 4 pints per person, which is commonplace at bigger sporting venues now (Old Trafford cricket ground for example). Too many times I've been stood in the queue behind someone who's getting drinks added to their order from mates stood outside the queue. You end up waiting for about a dozen pints to be poured last minute.

As maligned and debated as it has become, the Fan Zone can't come quick enough if simply to take some of the pressure from the CSH bar.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Seth on August 08, 2022, 11:31:14 AM
I say it every week but the only way that service in the CSH is going to improve is if they start prepouring pints... yes it's not ideal but I don't even bother trying to get served at the bar anymore

Maybe not quite true. Trafford had a gazebo with a man selling cans of beer. Not to everyone's taste maybe, but it was quick and effective (another thing I loved about Trafford were those wooden seats. The little things really do matter...).

Agreed, we could easily have a separate stall in the CSH offering cans and bottles. Makes absolute sense.

The way the club has responded to poor service in the CSH is offering loyALTY subscribers a jump of the inordinate queue. Recognising the problem without solving it..

This was offered at a few home games last season and seemed to be very popular. I'm not sure why it isn't more consistent because as you say, I'd much rather pay £3 for a cold can poured into a cup, than queue 15 minutes for a £4 pint I have to rush.

Re. the LoyAlty queue, I think it's important to say that this wasn't introduced as a fix for queuing problems, but rather, as a perk for supporting a certain tier of the scheme.

There will always be queueing problems in the CSH as it simply is not set up to meet the demand of however many hundred people wanting a pint within a 15-minute timeframe.

The club has visibly put far more staff on to try and meet the demand, and introduced lane queueing, but it will never be enough. The only suggestion I have to try and make it marginally better is introducing a max order of 4 pints per person, which is commonplace at bigger sporting venues now (Old Trafford cricket ground for example). Too many times I've been stood in the queue behind someone who's getting drinks added to their order from mates stood outside the queue. You end up waiting for about a dozen pints to be poured last minute.

As maligned and debated as it has become, the Fan Zone can't come quick enough if simply to take some of the pressure from the CSH bar.

That was not my point. My point was by doing this, the club is recognising the queue is a problem, but doing nothing to fix it.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: andrewflynn on August 08, 2022, 11:52:00 AM
I say it every week but the only way that service in the CSH is going to improve is if they start prepouring pints... yes it's not ideal but I don't even bother trying to get served at the bar anymore

Maybe not quite true. Trafford had a gazebo with a man selling cans of beer. Not to everyone's taste maybe, but it was quick and effective (another thing I loved about Trafford were those wooden seats. The little things really do matter...).

Agreed, we could easily have a separate stall in the CSH offering cans and bottles. Makes absolute sense.

The way the club has responded to poor service in the CSH is offering loyALTY subscribers a jump of the inordinate queue. Recognising the problem without solving it..

This was offered at a few home games last season and seemed to be very popular. I'm not sure why it isn't more consistent because as you say, I'd much rather pay £3 for a cold can poured into a cup, than queue 15 minutes for a £4 pint I have to rush.

Re. the LoyAlty queue, I think it's important to say that this wasn't introduced as a fix for queuing problems, but rather, as a perk for supporting a certain tier of the scheme.

There will always be queueing problems in the CSH as it simply is not set up to meet the demand of however many hundred people wanting a pint within a 15-minute timeframe.

The club has visibly put far more staff on to try and meet the demand, and introduced lane queueing, but it will never be enough. The only suggestion I have to try and make it marginally better is introducing a max order of 4 pints per person, which is commonplace at bigger sporting venues now (Old Trafford cricket ground for example). Too many times I've been stood in the queue behind someone who's getting drinks added to their order from mates stood outside the queue. You end up waiting for about a dozen pints to be poured last minute.

As maligned and debated as it has become, the Fan Zone can't come quick enough if simply to take some of the pressure from the CSH bar.

That was not my point. My point was by doing this, the club is recognising the queue is a problem, but doing nothing to fix it.

I take your point. Got to say I disagree with the notion that the club are doing / have done nothing to at least try and improve the experience.

As I said, they've done can bars in the past, added queuing lanes, and brought in more staff but it's not been enough or it's been done inconsistently. I personally think that no matter what they do, the Sports Hall simply isn't equipped with a bar big enough to get that many people served in a 15-minute window unless rules are put in place to cap the order quantity.

Even then, we'll still be queueing for a good few minutes. It is half-time at a football match at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 08, 2022, 11:56:24 AM
I've totally given up on trying to get a half time pint nowadays but it's not the end of the world.
The Club have missed out on my few bob though. There must be quite a few others like me and those few bobs will have started to add up.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 08, 2022, 01:24:40 PM
It's a few cans / bottles in a bucket of ice - if I can manage it entertaining two dozen people in my garden, the club can manage it on a slightly larger scale.

Getting back to the match - another concern seemed to be that we picked up quite a few knocks - we're probably quite fortunate there isn't a midweek game. On the plus side, Lundstram? (unless my eyes deceived me?) put in a decent shift at right back, and Pringle got things ticking over well when he came on like he normally does.

Depending on injury status next week, I wouldn't be too concerned to start the side we finished the game with - it's a long season and we do need to use everyone.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: HashtagAlty on August 08, 2022, 01:41:54 PM
1. Pre-order via the website via a ticket system; for all ST/Loyalty card holders

2. Limited the pints as per above to 4 per person (people would just join the queue at the front no doubt).

3. Bring back paul as an extra bar in the corner.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 08, 2022, 03:36:48 PM
I'm considering bringing the old hip flask I used to bring in the 60s for half time and just top up the coffee I send Mrs S to get for us! 😉
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Ballers on August 08, 2022, 03:56:24 PM
I guess one thing worth saying is that the csh is open all game, and serving people, so maybe it’s not as easy to pre pour loads of pints at 3:30? That said I’ve been in at 3:35 and it takes f**king time.

The real reason they won’t pre pour pints though is like a lot of places their scared of tipping 2 or 3 unwanted pints away but f**k me they must know how much of each they sell by now.

Also, and I surely can’t be alone in this, if I’ve got a massive queue I’m as likely at the end of it to just take whichever beer you’ve got immediately at hand rather than ask for a specific one to be poured. Obviously not everyone is like that but many people are.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Ballers on August 08, 2022, 05:17:12 PM
And just to go back to the crowd. I’m puzzled that some people think it was a below par attendance?

Opening day attendances early in August with so many people on holiday (see our great travelling support at Torquay last season) are always much lower than you’d think. 800-900 used to be par.

1,717 is great and further proof of our progress. I haven’t got reliable enough WiFi on our campsite in Cornwall to check but it’s possibly our highest opening day attendance in the past 4 decades??

Maybe just edged out when Exeter brought 7-800 and we got circa 1,800 against them a few years ago.

Edit: Exeter was 1,314 so Saturdays attendance is certainly nothing to be disappointed with.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Leon on August 08, 2022, 06:32:05 PM
And just to go back to the crowd. I’m puzzled that some people think it was a below par attendance?

Opening day attendances early in August with so many people on holiday (see our great travelling support at Torquay last season) are always much lower than you’d think. 800-900 used to be par.

1,717 is great and further proof of our progress. I haven’t got reliable enough WiFi on our campsite in Cornwall to check but it’s possibly our highest opening day attendance in the past 4 decades??

Maybe just edged out when Exeter brought 7-800 and we got circa 1,800 against them a few years ago.

Edit: Exeter was 1,314 so Saturdays attendance is certainly nothing to be disappointed with.

I think there may have been more in the ground for York at home in 2018 but in terms of home supporters, it’s an age since we’ve had as many as 1500 on an opening day.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: distancetraveller on August 08, 2022, 06:33:35 PM
Wouldn’t fancy Exeter away on a Saturday in August.

You could die of old age stuck in the traffic on the M5 from North of Bristol to Exeter.

I thought 1717 wasn’t a bad gate considering a lot of people will be away on holiday with the ankle biters.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Ballers on August 08, 2022, 06:57:51 PM
And just to go back to the crowd. I’m puzzled that some people think it was a below par attendance?

Opening day attendances early in August with so many people on holiday (see our great travelling support at Torquay last season) are always much lower than you’d think. 800-900 used to be par.

1,717 is great and further proof of our progress. I haven’t got reliable enough WiFi on our campsite in Cornwall to check but it’s possibly our highest opening day attendance in the past 4 decades??

Maybe just edged out when Exeter brought 7-800 and we got circa 1,800 against them a few years ago.

Edit: Exeter was 1,314 so Saturdays attendance is certainly nothing to be disappointed with.

I think there may have been more in the ground for York at home in 2018 but in terms of home supporters, it’s an age since we’ve had as many as 1500 on an opening day.

Good call. 1,876 v York. Suspect they brought more than the 200 Maidstone did though
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on August 08, 2022, 07:17:37 PM


Match highlights from the Maidstone United perspective (featuring a better view of the penalty appeal}:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2rJTa14ScM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2rJTa14ScM)
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Alty Dave on August 09, 2022, 09:36:02 AM


Match highlights from the Maidstone United perspective (featuring a better view of the penalty appeal}:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2rJTa14ScM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2rJTa14ScM)

Interesting to see there edit cut in with Alty TV gave some good extra angles and unbiased commentary. Deffo a pen as was sat near that camera and Dinanga ff side which wasn't. Robbed gets no better.
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 09, 2022, 01:58:15 PM
I'm considering bringing the old hip flask I used to bring in the 60s for half time and just top up the coffee I send Mrs S to get for us! 😉

Don't put a decent single malt in your hip flask, in case it falls foul of the scanner on the way in ! Having Tesco Whisky confiscated would be infinitely less painful 😂
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 09, 2022, 04:32:37 PM
I'm considering bringing the old hip flask I used to bring in the 60s for half time and just top up the coffee I send Mrs S to get for us! 😉

Don't put a decent single malt in your hip flask, in case it falls foul of the scanner on the way in ! Having Tesco Whisky confiscated would be infinitely less painful 😂

I could always bring my plastic flask? That should beat the scanner 😉
Failing that I could always neck the lot to keep it from being confiscated! 😂
Title: Re: Opening day Match Thread.
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 09, 2022, 11:20:00 PM
I'm considering bringing the old hip flask I used to bring in the 60s for half time and just top up the coffee I send Mrs S to get for us! 😉

Don't put a decent single malt in your hip flask, in case it falls foul of the scanner on the way in ! Having Tesco Whisky confiscated would be infinitely less painful 😂

I could always bring my plastic flask? That should beat the scanner 😉
Failing that I could always neck the lot to keep it from being confiscated! 😂

Personally I favour Plan B 🤣