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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: andrewflynn on July 19, 2022, 03:57:49 PM
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I've re-volunteered to help the club get the new website where it needs to be, amongst other bits and pieces.
Can I ask anyone with feedback on the website in its current format to explain where they feel it is falling short?
Similarly, it would be good to hear where people think the website has improved since it was relaunched, so that we don't lose anything.
I'm trying to gather as much clear feedback as possible so I can prioritise this into short, medium and long term improvements. I hope you can appreciate that some functions, like back-dated historical results data, are going to take a lot longer to sort out than uploading this year's fixtures, for example.
Please be as concise and direct as you can, many thanks.
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Are all the articles posted on the previous website gone forever? or is there a way of getting them back and continuing to host them? I was a bit disappointed to see match reports I had written for the club no longer available.
I think a really nice feature of the JL website is that it serves also as an archive of information
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Are all the articles posted on the previous website gone forever? or is there a way of getting them back and continuing to host them? I was a bit disappointed to see match reports I had written for the club no longer available.
I think a really nice feature of the JL website is that it serves also as an archive of information
The site was launched without the backdated news articles unfortunately mate, however the company I work for were hosting the old website and have relaunched it on a private server so that we can go back through and get them copied across.
I completely agree re archived info.
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It would be good to have an archive section. I realise that it is a massive task but hopefully it can be inserted into the new site over the coming months/season or however long a task like this would take. I’m not pc savvy enough to know the time needed for this sort of thing.
Glad to read you are back on board Andrew, and the rest of the techy crew … Thanks…
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Thank fuk.
Welcome back
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Current and contemporary information about the Women's set up is a must IMO
Erin, amongst others, will I feel sure be a useful aid in this regard.
Also information about Junior Teams. For example, were you aware that Altrincham had a National Champion Team?
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My main feedback is the speed of update. Getting results and quick report up asap is the main thing, it was a bigger issue when there was no live update page either. Info on the first team squad was also missing but is there now.
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I have to say a way of linking to John Laidlers site would be great, still the best place to hear the news and learn about other teams
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I suggest that it would be interesting to have links to some historical media reports and coverage of the club (eg some of those legendary John King interviews, the Wycombe FAT semi - or for that matter Wayno's expert prediction on that Alfreton match!). I don't see why the likes of Youtube should have these and not us (and it might make things easier for some of Parky's presentations!). I don't know if there are copyright issues or anything, but surely this would be worth pursuing if possible?
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my view is we do need a live text commentary of our games,RR is great but it does go off air a few times and i have always found the text a good backup for when this happens.
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my view is we do need a live text commentary of our games,RR is great but it does go off air a few times and i have always found the text a good backup for when this happens.
I agree Harold. My partner isn't into football, so I have to retire to my bedroom to listen to RR. Text isn't a problem.
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Are all the articles posted on the previous website gone forever? or is there a way of getting them back and continuing to host them? I was a bit disappointed to see match reports I had written for the club no longer available.
I think a really nice feature of the JL website is that it serves also as an archive of information
The site was launched without the backdated news articles unfortunately mate, however the company I work for were hosting the old website and have relaunched it on a private server so that we can go back through and get them copied across.
I completely agree re archived info.
Cheers mate, happy to help if you need a hand with that
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It would be good to have a dedicated fixture page, and results.
Thank you for all the hard work you do 👍🏻
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2-00pm team news would be nice
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My main feedback is the speed of update. Getting results and quick report up asap is the main thing, it was a bigger issue when there was no live update page either. Info on the first team squad was also missing but is there now.
Speed of updates! Even JL’s approach of stringing the tweets together to make a match report is better than complete silence. Home page doesn’t even acknowledge the game happened. The fixtures page hasn’t even got the Stockport score up yet. The old site had live text updates so you could catch up part way through the match or afterwards.
Update JL has now updated his site with a copy of the Stoke report so two updates before the official site even has the result available.
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My main feedback is the speed of update. Getting results and quick report up asap is the main thing, it was a bigger issue when there was no live update page either. Info on the first team squad was also missing but is there now.
Speed of updates! Even JL’s approach of stringing the tweets together to make a match report is better than complete silence. Home page doesn’t even acknowledge the game happened. The fixtures page hasn’t even got the Stockport score up yet. The old site had live text updates so you could catch up part way through the match or afterwards.
Update JL has now updated his site with a copy of the Stoke report so two updates before the official site even has the result available.
full time and proud of it
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My main feedback is the speed of update. Getting results and quick report up asap is the main thing, it was a bigger issue when there was no live update page either. Info on the first team squad was also missing but is there now.
Speed of updates! Even JL’s approach of stringing the tweets together to make a match report is better than complete silence. Home page doesn’t even acknowledge the game happened. The fixtures page hasn’t even got the Stockport score up yet. The old site had live text updates so you could catch up part way through the match or afterwards.
Update JL has now updated his site with a copy of the Stoke report so two updates before the official site even has the result available.
full time and proud of it
Alty Files is my first port of call for club news. Has been for years. The official site looks snazzy but lacks content. The old saying fur coat and no knickers comes to mind.
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If only John Laidlar would work with the modern, professional site.
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If only John Laidlar would work with the modern, professional site.
What's stopping this from happening?
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There isn't much wrong with the official site as these things go in the modern age, just as others say, its not the first place you'd go for up to date news. I'm sure that's something the club will be conscious of - JL's site has always led the way.
I appreciate that with the immediacy of news via Twitter, Facebook etc., it can be difficult to make a website feel as up to date.
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I'd be interested to know what the response would be if you asked everyone who visited our website what the main reasons were why they did?
Also, how many people visit our site in relation to twitter followers or Facebook likes?
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If only John Laidlar would work with the modern, professional site.
What's stopping this from happening?
No idea!
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The number one answer to the thread appears to be to get JL to merge his content into the official website. Is that such an odd thing to do?
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The number one answer to the thread appears to be to get JL to merge his content into the official website. Is that such an odd thing to do?
Given JL updates are often non league focused, as a whole, a weekly NL round-up (similar to John Edwards pen name of Alty Insider) would get more regular content, more eyeballs and more sponsor revenue.
If John wanted to continue being involved in updates, again they could sit on main website.
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I was out and about yesterday trying to follow the game. Couldn’t use radio robins and there was absolutely nothing available on the club site. I don’t want to have to sign up for Twitter just to get the Alty score. Ended up using BBC I was that desperate. This morning there is still an advert for tickets where the score should be!
Thanks to all who posted thoughts on the game on here as it’s all I have to go on!
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I suppose if you don't want to use Twitter (pretty quick for updates ) and you couldn't listen to RR then you have to use something else IE the BBC updates
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I'm not on twitter but if you Google altrincham fc twitter, the latest posts are shown so you can see the updates without going into twitter itself.
That works for me anyway.
Also, I was advised by someone on here to use the altrincham nitter app which I got from Google. That gives me access too.
Hope this is of some use?
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Football webpages is a good site for score updates too. No subscription required.
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I use a Kindle Fire and have been unable to keep a connection to the new radio service. I tried yesterday and it dropped out time and again. Gave up and used the bbc.I
I'll pop out next week for a Pink Final😀
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My main feedback is the speed of update. Getting results and quick report up asap is the main thing, it was a bigger issue when there was no live update page either. Info on the first team squad was also missing but is there now.
Speed of updates! Even JL’s approach of stringing the tweets together to make a match report is better than complete silence. Home page doesn’t even acknowledge the game happened. The fixtures page hasn’t even got the Stockport score up yet. The old site had live text updates so you could catch up part way through the match or afterwards.
Update JL has now updated his site with a copy of the Stoke report so two updates before the official site even has the result available.
full time and proud of it
Alty Files is my first port of call for club news. Has been for years. The official site looks snazzy but lacks content. The old saying fur coat and no knickers comes to mind.
You saying John Laidlaw wears a fur coat and knickers then?
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With his replica shirt underneath probably 😉😎
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My main point was that that the old ‘new’ site still had the live text update that gave more than just scores and was appreciated by many of us exiles. The news page also had Alty twitter posts down the side on the desktop version. Shame the new site has lost that and all other match updates.
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My main feedback is the speed of update. Getting results and quick report up asap is the main thing, it was a bigger issue when there was no live update page either. Info on the first team squad was also missing but is there now.
Speed of updates! Even JL’s approach of stringing the tweets together to make a match report is better than complete silence. Home page doesn’t even acknowledge the game happened. The fixtures page hasn’t even got the Stockport score up yet. The old site had live text updates so you could catch up part way through the match or afterwards.
Update JL has now updated his site with a copy of the Stoke report so two updates before the official site even has the result available.
full time and proud of it
Alty Files is my first port of call for club news. Has been for years. The official site looks snazzy but lacks content. The old saying fur coat and no knickers comes to mind.
You saying John Laidlaw wears a fur coat and knickers then?
If the official site has a fur coat and no knickers AND John's site is the opposite to that I think John doesn't have a fur coat but does wear Y Fronts.
No proof required!
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i totally agree with Bath
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i totally agree with Bath
So do I, I used the live text updates regularly especially when out and about.
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You don’t need a Twitter account to look at the club’s Twitter page.
If you really didn’t want to follow on Twitter there’s this alternate website: https://nitter.net/altrinchamfc
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I use a Kindle Fire and have been unable to keep a connection to the new radio service. I tried yesterday and it dropped out time and again. Gave up and used the bbc.I
I'll pop out next week for a Pink Final😀
the pink final takes me back . 20p I recall and you could open the door and take as many as you wanted ..😆😉
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You don’t need a Twitter account to look at the club’s Twitter page.
If you really didn’t want to follow on Twitter there’s this alternate website: https://nitter.net/altrinchamfc
Oh I see. Silly me going to the club’s official site for news of the match when I should be following that link. Obvious when you think about it! You asked for feedback on the site so I gave you some, now you’re telling me I’m using it wrong?
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You don’t need a Twitter account to look at the club’s Twitter page.
If you really didn’t want to follow on Twitter there’s this alternate website: https://nitter.net/altrinchamfc
Oh I see. Silly me going to the club’s official site for news of the match when I should be following that link. Obvious when you think about it! You asked for feedback on the site so I gave you some, now you’re telling me I’m using it wrong?
I wasn’t being funny with you I was trying to help, don’t be like that.
I’m not telling you you’re using anything wrong. You made a point about not wanting to use Twitter to follow the game, I’m aware of an option that would help you follow the coverage without needing to make an account.
I know that the current website has ditched the “live update” functionality that it used to have, I’m not sure why that decision was made. I don’t think there are any plans to bring it back.
For now the only place you will be able to get text updates is through Twitter so I hope the workaround I provided is of use.
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You don’t need a Twitter account to look at the club’s Twitter page.
If you really didn’t want to follow on Twitter there’s this alternate website: https://nitter.net/altrinchamfc
That’s a very good link Andrew . Works for me. Many thanks fella.
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I use a Kindle Fire and have been unable to keep a connection to the new radio service. I tried yesterday and it dropped out time and again. Gave up and used the bbc.I
I'll pop out next week for a Pink Final😀
the pink final takes me back . 20p I recall and you could open the door and take as many as you wanted ..😆😉
Is that not shoplifting?
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I use a Kindle Fire and have been unable to keep a connection to the new radio service. I tried yesterday and it dropped out time and again. Gave up and used the bbc.I
I'll pop out next week for a Pink Final😀
the pink final takes me back . 20p I recall and you could open the door and take as many as you wanted ..😆😉
Is that not shoplifting?
It was the Green in Blackpool
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I use a Kindle Fire and have been unable to keep a connection to the new radio service. I tried yesterday and it dropped out time and again. Gave up and used the bbc.I
I'll pop out next week for a Pink Final😀
the pink final takes me back . 20p I recall and you could open the door and take as many as you wanted ..😆😉
Is that not shoplifting?
more paper lifting I think 😂 we used to catch customers doing it all the time
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I miss the Pink - I used to win the £5 prize for the Sports Crossword 3 or 4 times every season 😂
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I once met Denis Law whilst waiting for the pinks to delivered at a newsagent at the Downs in Alty. It made my day. The Lawman.
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I once met Denis Law whilst waiting for the pinks to delivered at a newsagent at the Downs in Alty. It made my day. The Lawman.
An absolute gentleman. I once took him to a speaking engagement in Taunton while driving my mate's stretch limo.
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You don’t need a Twitter account to look at the club’s Twitter page.
If you really didn’t want to follow on Twitter there’s this alternate website: https://nitter.net/altrinchamfc
Oh I see. Silly me going to the club’s official site for news of the match when I should be following that link. Obvious when you think about it! You asked for feedback on the site so I gave you some, now you’re telling me I’m using it wrong?
Or down load any of the score update apps? Such as Flashscores
I wasn’t being funny with you I was trying to help, don’t be like that.
I’m not telling you you’re using anything wrong. You made a point about not wanting to use Twitter to follow the game, I’m aware of an option that would help you follow the coverage without needing to make an account.
I know that the current website has ditched the “live update” functionality that it used to have, I’m not sure why that decision was made. I don’t think there are any plans to bring it back.
For now the only place you will be able to get text updates is through Twitter so I hope the workaround I provided is of use.
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The Pink final was an absolute gem and essential read after the match on Saturdays . Every local non league team had a match report plus Terry Gorry and later Doug Peacocks non league news column .
Lucky to talk with King Denis on a couple of occasions , great player and a lovely bloke . Proper legend.
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I note that five live have ditched the classifieds at 5. What's relevant and useful to some isn't going to be for others I guess.
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Dennis Law scored the first goal I ever saw in a live football match, back in 1968. Ghosted in from the right side of the Stretford End of the pitch. I just saw a red flash and the ball was in the net. I remember thinking, 'where the hell did he come from!' A nine year old impressionable boy I was then!!
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Dennis Law scored the first goal I ever saw in a live football match, back in 1968. Ghosted in from the right side of the Stretford End of the pitch. I just saw a red flash and the ball was in the net. I remember thinking, 'where the hell did he come from!' A nine year old impressionable boy I was then!!
Ditto , first match aged 9 back in 1963 when Denis scored 2 in the 3-1 win over Leyton Orient that kept Utd up . It was Orients one and only ever season in the top division.
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Getting back to the op.
When in fixtures section and selecting a complete match, could we go to match report, line up etc rather than purchase tickets etc
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Can we split out fixtures and results at all, going to be tedious to scroll to November decmeber etc
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Can we split out fixtures and results at all, going to be tedious to scroll to November decmeber etc
I can't be the only person who'd like to see the results presented in a consistent manner too - the current results are presented in the neutral [home team] - [away team] format.
I'd like to see that 2-0 means that we won, irrespective of where the game was played. Likewise 0-2 means that we lost.
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Can we split out fixtures and results at all, going to be tedious to scroll to November decmeber etc
I can't be the only person who'd like to see the results presented in a consistent manner too - the current results are presented in the neutral [home team] - [away team] format.
I'd like to see that 2-0 means that we won, irrespective of where the game was played. Likewise 0-2 means that we lost.
That's not how the result was achieved though... 0-2 is a 2-0 away win.
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Has to home team first
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Has to home team first
100%.
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I'm with MadFrankie on this one.
Would prefer to see the results presented relative to us - makes it easier to scroll down and get a quick snapshot of our general form etc.
It's also the way John Laidlar presents it... and he's never wrong.
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Has to home team first
I agree on this, and it is understood as convention when reporting football results of any kind.
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Or maybe colour coded for wins/draws/defeats like we did with the subs last season? Or simply have a big W/D/L next to every result? At the end of the day, whatever system we have, surely the important thing is that it is easily and immediately understood by everyone who reads it?
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Match reports on the evening after a match might be nice.
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One on the JL site 👍😉
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The JL website is the only one I bother with. If there is anything relevant on the club site he links to it anyway.
10.00am the morning after match day the club website still only carries a match preview. This isn't a very good signal to send to fans, potential fans, advertisers, sponsors and investors.
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The club website seems more interested in selling merchandise and tickets at the expense of any real updates. I think it is awful and not even very user friendly when you get there. I'd not usually think of using it. John's website every time for me. I'd be interested to know what aspects of the clubs website are deemed better??
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The club website seems more interested in selling merchandise and tickets at the expense of any real updates. I think it is awful and not even very user friendly when you get there. I'd not usually think of using it. John's website every time for me. I'd be interested to know what aspects of the clubs website are deemed better??
Probably not a popular view on this thread but I'd say the commercial angle is probably the most important part of a full time football club's website in 2022.
I'll also stick my neck out and say that a football club's digital presence these days is far far more than just the website. If I visit the website it's because I've seen something on our twitter feed and then follow the link, I'm probably not alone in that.
I totally agree with the criticism of slow updates, that is undoubtedly the new site's biggest weakness and it needs resolving.
The two websites discussed here are so totally different in format, priority and content that I don't see how you are going to make a big fan of one site enamoured of the other tbh.
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I think it's down to how much time is spent on it. The JL site is updated about ten pm for the next day and includes not only Alty news but a league digest. John obviously spends quite a bit of time on this to the point where, when he's on holiday, we all miss the updates.
The official club website is clearly maintained by people who have many other things to deal with.
I'm not sure how this can be resolved without someone taking control of it and spending a few hours a day doing it. I can't see that happening as there's so many other things to keep on top of.
It's plain to me that there's a distinct focus on the financial side but as the club needs to generate more revenue, this is understandable and, indeed, essential.
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Match reports on the evening after a match might be nice.
Arriving on the website around 6pm like the football pink and green. 😎
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The club website seems more interested in selling merchandise and tickets at the expense of any real updates. I think it is awful and not even very user friendly when you get there. I'd not usually think of using it. John's website every time for me. I'd be interested to know what aspects of the clubs website are deemed better??
Probably not a popular view on this thread but I'd say the commercial angle is probably the most important part of a full time football club's website in 2022.
I'll also stick my neck out and say that a football club's digital presence these days is far far more than just the website. If I visit the website it's because I've seen something on our twitter feed and then follow the link, I'm probably not alone in that.
I totally agree with the criticism of slow updates, that is undoubtedly the new site's biggest weakness and it needs resolving.
The two websites discussed here are so totally different in format, priority and content that I don't see how you are going to make a big fan of one site enamoured of the other tbh.
Exactly this Bob. The clubs priority with the website is not a blow by blow account of a goalless draw at Bromley more drawing people in to buy match tickets, merchandise, sponsorships etc. As you rightly say the social media accounts are almost certain to be viewed by many more people than the website too & they aren’t really mentioned much on this thread (we have 26000 followers of the Clubs official Twitter account for example).
I also think this forum generally has an older demographic which perhaps leads itself to certain assumptions & views about the clubs online presence which would not necessarily be shared by younger fans who are unlikely to even know this forum exists. The match day updates is a good example, if 26k people follow the clubs Twitter account then that is the obvious place for the club to prioritise putting out match day score updates, website updates would be nice too sure but Twitter will reach by far the widest audience most quickly.
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So it's twitter and Facebook and the club website for the younguns and JL and on here for us old timers, right? 🤔😂
PS. Does that mean you're an old codger too, like us, mate?
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Very good point about this forum actually. Is it valuable to and appreciated by those who use it, and with some very good opinions and debate? No question. Does it accurately represent a cross section of all those who follow or support us? Probably not.
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Very good point about this forum actually. Is it valuable to and appreciated by those who use it, and with some very good opinions and debate? No question. Does it accurately represent a cross section of all those who follow or support us? Probably not.
For those, like me, who are now semi-IT literate, this forum is the place for me to go to talk Alty.
I have dipped my toe into both Facebook and Twitter and found them to have stacks of anger, bitterness, hate, negativity, racism, conspiracy theories and lazy, casual abuse. I cannot have that in my head due to how I am mentally, a set of wild horses couldn't drag me back there.
Come on Alty.
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So it's twitter and Facebook and the club website for the younguns and JL and on here for us old timers, right? 🤔😂
PS. Does that mean you're an old codger too, like us, mate?
I like to think I can (just about) straddle both audiences having just turned 40!
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So it's twitter and Facebook and the club website for the younguns and JL and on here for us old timers, right? 🤔😂
PS. Does that mean you're an old codger too, like us, mate?
I like to think I can (just about) straddle both audiences having just turned 40!
As someone who is about to turn 72, I can confirm that you're still a youngster.(in my eyes anyway😂)
PS. As a matter of fact, three of my children are older than you 🤯
(and the other two aren't far behind you!)
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So it's twitter and Facebook and the club website for the younguns and JL and on here for us old timers, right? 🤔😂
PS. Does that mean you're an old codger too, like us, mate?
I like to think I can (just about) straddle both audiences having just turned 40!
As someone who is about to turn 72, I can confirm that you're still a youngster.(in my eyes anyway😂)
PS. As a matter of fact, three of my children are older than you 🤯
(and the other two aren't far behind you!)
Is it panto season already?
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So it's twitter and Facebook and the club website for the younguns and JL and on here for us old timers, right? 🤔😂
PS. Does that mean you're an old codger too, like us, mate?
I like to think I can (just about) straddle both audiences having just turned 40!
As someone who is about to turn 72, I can confirm that you're still a youngster.(in my eyes anyway😂)
PS. As a matter of fact, three of my children are older than you 🤯
(and the other two aren't far behind you!)
Is it panto season already?
Every day is panto day at our house! 😉
Especially when some of the grandkids turn up 😂😂
Ohhhhh yes it is!
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So it's twitter and Facebook and the club website for the younguns and JL and on here for us old timers, right? 🤔😂
PS. Does that mean you're an old codger too, like us, mate?
I like to think I can (just about) straddle both audiences having just turned 40!
As someone who is about to turn 72, I can confirm that you're still a youngster.(in my eyes anyway😂)
PS. As a matter of fact, three of my children are older than you 🤯
(and the other two aren't far behind you!)
Is it panto season already?
oh no it’s not.
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I know John Laidlaw’s site has a report and very good it is, but, how come our new all singing & dancing site does not have a match report? We have a preview for Boreham Wood then the next news item is a preview of Chesterfield visiting tomorrow.
Is there any danger that the continuity man could squeeze in a match report or maybe an interview with a happy manager, who must have been delighted at getting a point at the Wood as us fans were.
I find it very frustrating going on the new website.
How many times must I say it, “Attention to detail”, the team maybe full time but the rest of the club sadly isn’t yet.
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Why doesnt John Laidlar just publish it on the official website...
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Why doesnt John Laidlar just publish it on the official website...
That would work well,
Totally agree Jack.
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I know John Laidlaw’s site has a report and very good it is, but, how come our new all singing & dancing site does not have a match report? We have a preview for Boreham Wood then the next news item is a preview of Chesterfield visiting tomorrow.
Is there any danger that the continuity man could squeeze in a match report or maybe an interview with a happy manager, who must have been delighted at getting a point at the Wood as us fans were.
I find it very frustrating going on the new website.
How many times must I say it, “Attention to detail”, the team maybe full time but the rest of the club sadly isn’t yet.
The absence of a post-match audio interview with PP is my fault - I did one straight after the game but there was a problem with the recording so it’s not usable unfortunately.
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Can we please if it is possible for a link for John Laidlaw’s site or give him a landing page to be added to the main site as he is by far the most qualified person to be doing this with his passion and eye for detail, it could quite possibly unite the moaners the groaners and the idealists who think the older generation have no idea and should stay in the past but forget the older you get the more experience you gain.
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I know John Laidlaw’s site has a report and very good it is, but, how come our new all singing & dancing site does not have a match report? We have a preview for Boreham Wood then the next news item is a preview of Chesterfield visiting tomorrow.
Is there any danger that the continuity man could squeeze in a match report or maybe an interview with a happy manager, who must have been delighted at getting a point at the Wood as us fans were.
I find it very frustrating going on the new website.
How many times must I say it, “Attention to detail”, the team maybe full time but the rest of the club sadly isn’t yet.
This. The feeling I get is there is nobody taking an overall look at how the club does it's media. It's all very piecemeal and seems to vary very much depending who happens to be around on a given weekend.
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I know John Laidlaw’s site has a report and very good it is, but, how come our new all singing & dancing site does not have a match report? We have a preview for Boreham Wood then the next news item is a preview of Chesterfield visiting tomorrow.
Is there any danger that the continuity man could squeeze in a match report or maybe an interview with a happy manager, who must have been delighted at getting a point at the Wood as us fans were.
I find it very frustrating going on the new website.
How many times must I say it, “Attention to detail”, the team maybe full time but the rest of the club sadly isn’t yet.
This. The feeling I get is there is nobody taking an overall look at how the club does it's media. It's all very piecemeal and seems to vary very much depending who happens to be around on a given weekend.
the rumour is the Alty fans keep walking past the press and obstructing there view ...😂😂🤔
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Rare slip by JL today where he says Wealdstone (not Maidenhead) are the only team to beat us this season.
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Can we please if it is possible for a link for John Laidlaw’s site or give him a landing page to be added to the main site as he is by far the most qualified person to be doing this with his passion and eye for detail, it could quite possibly unite the moaners the groaners and the idealists who think the older generation have no idea and should stay in the past but forget the older you get the more experience you gain.
Actually I think it's the "older generation" who are more likely to be the idealists and resistant to change. Nobody's saying they have no idea either, but maybe their idea of what constitutes an Alty fan and what they want from the club and the match is not necessarily the same as most people who follow us. That's not a criticism btw, just an observation.
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I think Alty fans of any age will be in favour of change as long as it's positive and an improvement.
It's just that quite a few people don't yet seem to see the official site as better than the JL site (yet?).
I'm of that opinion myself but would love to see someone take it (the official site) on and iron out the wrinkles to make it what we all want (and were assured) it would become.
Having said that however, John Laidlar is undoubtedly a legend and it's going to be a real problem finding someone with the expertise and, most importantly, the time to give to the job. It's a massive commitment.
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I think Alty fans of any age will be in favour of change as long as it's positive and an improvement.
It's just that quite a few people don't yet seem to see the official site as better than the JL site (yet?).
I'm of that opinion myself but would love to see someone take it (the official site) on and iron out the wrinkles to make it what we all want (and were assured) it would become.
Fair comment but it all rests on what people actually want from our website. How many are actually that fussed about getting a full, detailed match report within hours? How many are that interested in intricate, comprehensive news coverage of other clubs? How many want to buy a ticket or a shirt with ease? How many actually bother with the website anyway when they can just go on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram to get what they need? If the club's overall approach is to look at the bigger picture than filling a niche then fair enough in my view
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I think we need a media and social media presence across the whole spectrum if we're working on being a professional set up.
We need someone capable of coordinating all aspects of this.
Like I said though finding that person (probably not a volunteer) is going to be very difficult.
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match updates now on the main site,with line ups from 1400 :D
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match updates now on the main site,with line ups from 1400 :D
They're getting there for us! 👌👍
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Several changes for Alty as Mee, Barrows, Cooper, Jackson, Pringle and Hulme all come into the starting line-up
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There is a match report on this afternoon's game on the club's website now.
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There is a match report on this afternoon's game on the club's website now.
Thanks John. That’s service! 😀
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I know John Laidlaw’s site has a report and very good it is, but, how come our new all singing & dancing site does not have a match report? We have a preview for Boreham Wood then the next news item is a preview of Chesterfield visiting tomorrow.
Is there any danger that the continuity man could squeeze in a match report or maybe an interview with a happy manager, who must have been delighted at getting a point at the Wood as us fans were.
I find it very frustrating going on the new website.
How many times must I say it, “Attention to detail”, the team maybe full time but the rest of the club sadly isn’t yet.
This. The feeling I get is there is nobody taking an overall look at how the club does it's media. It's all very piecemeal and seems to vary very much depending who happens to be around on a given weekend.
I think this is a fair observation but you've got to understand that all aspects of the club's media output are voluntarily run. Until the club makes a financial commitment to a dedicated member of media/communications staff, there will always be these issues. It's entirely unavoidable, and I daresay unfair to expect our volunteers to produce and publish a match report either before they return home from Boreham Wood, or late at night after the journey.
I think we need a media and social media presence across the whole spectrum if we're working on being a professional set up.
We need someone capable of coordinating all aspects of this.
Like I said though finding that person (probably not a volunteer) is going to be very difficult.
You'd be surprised by how many high-quality applicants we would have for a paid Media & Communications role, especially with two good Universities in the city. The bigger challenge is the club finding the finance for it.
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It's a vicious circle. We need the money to appoint people to enhance our online operation and make people happier with the website, but when we make the website more commercial so to bring more money in then people complain.
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I would have thought when they designed the FT model for the club then they would have factored in moneys for paid off field staff. To have a paid staff off the field as well as on it would ensure the right people are in the right job. That way you get staff who will be there when needed rather than somebody who has other commitments to work around.
I’m not saying that our army of volunteers do not do a good job, however, professional on the the pitch should be matched by professional off the pitch.
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I would have thought when they designed the FT model for the club then they would have factored in moneys for paid off field staff. To have a paid staff off the field as well as on it would ensure the right people are in the right job. That way you get staff who will be there when needed rather than somebody who has other commitments to work around.
I’m not saying that our army of volunteers do not do a good job, however, professional on the the pitch should be matched by professional off the pitch.
That's well said, and very diplomatically put, too.
It's very difficult and expensive, though, and I can understand how the initial aim is to get a full-time squad, rather than a mix of full-time and part-time, and then hope and plan that other developments build up from that.
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I think there’s going to quite a few things across the board where it will need more than a volunteer to do it yet also not enough to justify paying someone a wage to do it. Quite a gap between the two stools.
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I think there’s going to quite a few things across the board where it will need more than a volunteer to do it yet also not enough to justify paying someone a wage to do it. Quite a gap between the two stools.
However, I'd imagine there's probably 10ks worth of advertising, Social Media and journalist work for the club, and the community business , which is how some cljbs run it. Or the media manager works on partnerships
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I think there’s going to quite a few things across the board where it will need more than a volunteer to do it yet also not enough to justify paying someone a wage to do it. Quite a gap between the two stools.
Certainly. I guess marketing would be a good place for the club to start as the role can be easily equated to revenue generated and thus justification of the role.