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Title: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: Bath Alty on March 08, 2022, 11:19:44 AM
A conversation yesterday about the number of ex-league teams in our league made me think - how many of the teams who were in the league in 1987 (?) when automatic promotion was introduced have lost their place and who has replaced them?

In no particular order I think 15 have lost their place:

Wrexham, Southend, Notts county, Chesterfield, Torquay, Aldershot, Halifax, Grimsby, Stockport, Chester, Darlington, Hereford, York, Maidstone and Bury

But I can only think of 14 replacements:
Wycombe, Burton, Crawley, Stevenage, Morecambe, AFC Wimbledon, Accrington Stanley, Harrogate, Sutton, Fleetwood, Salford, Cheltenham, Barrow and FGR

Who am I missing or have I got an extra one in the first list?

Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: Bath Alty on March 08, 2022, 11:25:45 AM
Didn’t Lincoln come down and then go back up so don’t appear on either list. Scarborough did the opposite- went up and then came back down with a bang
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: Leon on March 08, 2022, 11:27:04 AM
Maidstone Utd didn't enter the football league till 1989.
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: Bath Alty on March 08, 2022, 11:28:19 AM
I think Newport were a league team in 87 and the new incarnation are a league team now so you could add Newport to both lists if you are being picky
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: Bath Alty on March 08, 2022, 11:28:42 AM
Maidstone Utd didn't enter the football league till 1989.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: Leon on March 08, 2022, 11:36:24 AM
A conversation yesterday about the number of ex-league teams in our league made me think - how many of the teams who were in the league in 1987 (?) when automatic promotion was introduced have lost their place and who has replaced them?

In no particular order I think 15 have lost their place:

Wrexham, Southend, Notts county, Chesterfield, Torquay, Aldershot, Halifax, Grimsby, Stockport, Chester, Darlington, Hereford, York, Maidstone and Bury

But I can only think of 14 replacements:
Wycombe, Burton, Crawley, Stevenage, Morecambe, AFC Wimbledon, Accrington Stanley, Harrogate, Sutton, Fleetwood, Salford, Cheltenham, Barrow and FGR

Who am I missing or have I got an extra one in the first list?

It's interesting that half of that second list is now in League One, with FGR and Sutton in a good position to join them next season.
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: Bath Alty on March 08, 2022, 11:57:45 AM
The other thing I noticed in thinking about this is that I suspect more teams have bounced down and back up than went up and fell back. Not done the full lists for those but but feel is quite a marked difference?
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: cheshire cat on March 08, 2022, 12:22:34 PM
Mansfield came down and went back eventually. Tranmere are in that group too
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 08, 2022, 12:46:58 PM
Don't forget M*cc.!
They went up, down, up, down and POP! 😉
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: Bath Alty on March 08, 2022, 01:08:37 PM
Bounced back up:

Lincoln, Colchester, Mansfield, Exeter, Oxford, Bristol rovers, tranmere, Hartlepool, Newport (sort off) Luton, Carlisle, Leyton orient, cambridge
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: Leon on March 08, 2022, 01:14:56 PM
Bounced back up:

Lincoln, Colchester, Mansfield, Exeter, Oxford, Bristol rovers, tranmere, Hartlepool, Newport (sort off) Luton, Carlisle, Leyton orient, cambridge

Also Shrewsbury and Doncaster
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: FromAltyToAshford on March 08, 2022, 01:21:16 PM
Bounced back up: also Doncaster, Shrewsbury (and Lincoln have done it twice)

Fell back down: Scarborough, Maidstone, Barnet (3 times!), Macc (twice), Kiddy, Rushden & Diamonds, Boston, Yeovil, Dagenham
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: distancetraveller on March 08, 2022, 01:24:14 PM
Bounced back up:

Lincoln, Colchester, Mansfield, Exeter, Oxford, Bristol rovers, tranmere, Hartlepool, Newport (sort off) Luton, Carlisle, Leyton orient, cambridge

Also Shrewsbury and Doncaster

Yep Shrewsbury went back up the following season
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: Bath Alty on March 08, 2022, 01:43:33 PM
So 15  bounced back up and 9 fell back down. Not sure what that tells us but I am relieved my first impression was right
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: hsmith1 on March 08, 2022, 03:10:15 PM
Exeter City
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: cheshire cat on March 08, 2022, 05:06:42 PM
On reflection it makes us seem quite boring
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: Bath Alty on March 08, 2022, 05:43:24 PM
On reflection it makes us seem quite boring

You mean us the club for never managing it or us the contributors to this thread for having nothing else to do?
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 08, 2022, 05:46:34 PM
On reflection it makes us seem quite boring

You mean us the club for never managing it or us the contributors to this thread for having nothing else to do?

Think you could make a case for either (or both!) 😂😂
Title: Re: Who am I missing from this list?
Post by: cheshire cat on March 08, 2022, 10:35:32 PM
I meant the club in managing to avoid boom and bust. Hopefully having a long term plan which includes going full time will put us on a sound platform when we do make a push for promotion