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Title: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 04, 2022, 09:30:20 AM
Just taken a look at the league table and was shocked at how far Fylde had fallen off the pace - is there something going down over there? Looks like they're going to be stuck down there for a little while longer at this rate, Project 2022 has well and truly failed.

I didn't realise how quickly York have been coming up on the rails! - into the playoffs now, seems like sacking Steve Watson and giving him to Chester (who are now averaging less than a point a game, proper relegation form) has really done the trick.

Bill & Ben not exactly pulling up any trees at Spennymoor either, by the looks of things.

Who do we want to come up? I guess a couple of 'proper' Conference clubs like Gateshead and Kiddy would be nice, although I can't stomach another visit to that athletics ground.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Alty Dave on March 04, 2022, 09:33:38 AM
Gateshead I don't particularly want to go there again. I'd like York and Kiddy
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on March 04, 2022, 09:35:40 AM
I'd like some more accessible games such as Curzon, Chorley, Kiddy, Southport York.

Tedious to have Gateshead or Brackley
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 04, 2022, 10:21:12 AM
Looking like the title is between gateshead and Brackley.
Love to see Curzon win the play offs with peers scoring the winner in the final.
I suppose, being practical, we've to hope that those who do come up are the least prepared.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on March 04, 2022, 11:37:48 AM
Even though we were rubbish it puts into context our FA Cup defeat to Gateshead a bit more. I think they’ll do it-although I’ve no idea on their support how they fund a full time operation up there. Play offs is anyones guess, York seem to be the current form team but Kiddy have been excellent in recent months too. Either way it’ll be two strong and probably full time sides coming up from the North. As long as it’s not Brackley.

A similar thread on the South would be interesting. Dorking in the box seat (another loaded owner) but Maidstone have been superb in the last few weeks. I note both Oxford City & Dulwich Hamlet in the play offs, definitely one of them two as opposed to the Ebbsfleet/Dartford please to come up.

Overall a fair bet that at least 3 of the sides promoted will be full time already & there’s not going to be a Dover/Lynn/Weymouth cast adrift scenario next season (plus 4 down again of course) so it’s going to be a very big summer off the pitch, it’s time we left part time behind.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: CRT Butty on March 04, 2022, 11:55:01 AM
York would be good, though their new ground is a git to get to with bobbins car parking and on the edge of town. Curzon too please.

Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Altyrocket on March 04, 2022, 03:56:54 PM
jim bentley departs flid
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 04, 2022, 09:11:47 PM
Parky already suggested by some of their fans on social media. I reckon they'll get James Rowe.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Alty Bri on March 04, 2022, 09:29:11 PM
York and Southport would be lovely.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on March 04, 2022, 11:25:40 PM
Parky already suggested by some of their fans on social media. I reckon they'll get James Rowe.

Not for him I reckon. They burn through managers that club & let’s be honest they will always be a much smaller club than us. Also a very hard league to get out of, I don’t think taking a step backwards to a league he’s already been promoted out of is the kind of career move he’s after at this stage.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Mick on March 04, 2022, 11:33:15 PM
Rowe effectively sacked at Chesterfield whilst top of the league.
Maybe tainted goods at present until the dust settles......which it will
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 05, 2022, 09:19:47 AM
Rowe effectively sacked at Chesterfield whilst top of the league.
Maybe tainted goods at present until the dust settles......which it will

I think him & Fylde are a match made in heaven, personally. I don't think they'll be put off at all.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Hash on March 05, 2022, 06:50:30 PM
Have fylde got a fans message board ?
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 05, 2022, 07:31:22 PM
Have fylde got a fans message board ?

I don't think they've got one like this. I believe it's Facebook and twitter only. (could be wrong but don't think so)
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on March 05, 2022, 08:18:30 PM
I see Gateshead thrashed Kiddy 4-0 this afternoon. And I was quite looking forward to cottage pie again next season 😂
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 05, 2022, 08:41:28 PM
Yes. It's beginning to look increasingly like Gateshead and A.N.Other.
I'd love it to be Curzon but I think it's going to be Brackley or York.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Toff Apple on March 06, 2022, 08:18:43 AM
I see Gateshead thrashed Kiddy 4-0 this afternoon. And I was quite looking forward to cottage pie again next season 😂
Shockingly the food has gone at Kiddy, they changed them last year, just the usual burger and chips stuff now
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 06, 2022, 08:32:45 AM
I think the cottage pie fella passed away :(
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Silent but Ledley on March 06, 2022, 11:26:56 AM
Out of a survey of 29,        22 went for Pie 7 didn't ha SBL
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on March 06, 2022, 05:20:44 PM
I see Gateshead thrashed Kiddy 4-0 this afternoon. And I was quite looking forward to cottage pie again next season 😂
Shockingly the food has gone at Kiddy, they changed them last year, just the usual burger and chips stuff now

In that case I'm not arsed about going. We never win there anyway.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 20, 2022, 11:50:08 AM
Rowe effectively sacked at Chesterfield whilst top of the league.
Maybe tainted goods at present until the dust settles......which it will

I think him & Fylde are a match made in heaven, personally. I don't think they'll be put off at all.

It appears this one passed me by... James Rowe was indeed appointed and he's 3 games in already!

Seems he's started well. I hope they don't sneak up.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 20, 2022, 01:04:45 PM
Got to be gateshead for the title and Brackley for the play offs I would have thought?
With regards to Brackley, given that they average about 600 for home games, are they massively funded by someone?
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Bob on March 20, 2022, 02:10:33 PM
Got to be gateshead for the title and Brackley for the play offs I would have thought?
With regards to Brackley, given that they average about 600 for home games, are they massively funded by someone?

Brackley are majority owned by Allan Leighton who has been very high up over the years at loads of big name companies. Their accounts are quite low in detail but they generally run at a loss and I daresay money is pumped in to keep them running at that level.

Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 20, 2022, 02:21:09 PM
Wow. Just wiki'd him. He must be worth a few bob!
Wonder if he'll be prepared to cough up considerably more per season to keep them in the national?
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: CRT Butty on March 20, 2022, 02:49:06 PM
We know the risks of a sugar daddy setup.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 23, 2022, 06:12:12 PM
Buxton promoted to the NLN as NPL champions.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: CRT Butty on April 23, 2022, 07:18:21 PM
Buxton promoted to the NLN as NPL champions.

Happy to read that. Well.done them.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 23, 2022, 11:00:44 PM
Pretty sure Banbury will join them from Southern Central division, where they amassed 102 points from 40 games.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 27, 2022, 07:40:27 AM
Some interesting results in from the playoff semis:

South Shields beaten at home by Warrington (on penalties) so they'll be waiting at least another year at that level.

They'll go to Scarborough in the final after they came through their home game against Matlock - would be great to see them back at a decent level in non league (we won the AGM Cup at their expense if I remember correctly).

One level down, Runcorn will have home advantage against Marine for a chance to return to the NPL - similarly it would be great to see them at a good level again.

Marske have also reached their playoff final in the East.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 27, 2022, 09:05:17 AM
Yes. It's a shame for Workington though. If they'd have won away at the bottom of the league in their last match instead of getting a draw they'd have won the league on Saturday. The home defeat by Marine in the semi finals last night was no doubt in part due to a hangover from that.
Also, personally, would like to see Warrington beat the odds against Scarborough. They've been knocking on the door since we were down there.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 27, 2022, 11:21:24 AM
Yes. It's a shame for Workington though. If they'd have won away at the bottom of the league in their last match instead of getting a draw they'd have won the league on Saturday. The home defeat by Marine in the semi finals last night was no doubt in part due to a hangover from that.
Also, personally, would like to see Warrington beat the odds against Scarborough. They've been knocking on the door since we were down there.

That's an absolute shocker for Workington - just noticed Marine got a last minute equaliser to take the game into extra time too.

Not sure about Warrington / Scarborough - I feel like both would have their merits in coming up, Warrington blew a home final against Kings Lynn too didn't they.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 27, 2022, 11:38:08 AM
Yes that was the so called 'super play off' wasn't it? Either way they've been a bit unlucky over the years (and promotion gives Sean Williams another medal 🥉!) 😉
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Toff Apple on April 27, 2022, 12:20:34 PM
Buxton promoted to the NLN as NPL champions.
This was the same manager that was doing so well with Curzon at the start of the season, had them playing well vs us preseason
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 27, 2022, 06:44:18 PM
Buxton promoted to the NLN as NPL champions.
This was the same manager that was doing so well with Curzon at the start of the season, had them playing well vs us preseason

Yep he's definitely chosen a shrewd gig there, they've got some money behind them - will be interesting to see how they get on in the NLN next season.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 27, 2022, 08:53:12 PM
Buxton promoted to the NLN as NPL champions.
This was the same manager that was doing so well with Curzon at the start of the season, had them playing well vs us preseason

Yep he's definitely chosen a shrewd gig there, they've got some money behind them - will be interesting to see how they get on in the NLN next season.

Would be fantastic to see them in the national! 😉
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Freddie on April 27, 2022, 10:38:24 PM
I'd like to see the Scarborough phoenix club go up, as one of the first Alty games I ever went to was against their previous incarnation. It was a draw, but something about the allure of Moss Lane hooked me in from then on.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 27, 2022, 10:48:33 PM
First time I saw Scarborough we beat em 6-0 in the FA Cup. Jackie scored five and pat connelly scored the other.
If my memory serves me correctly, Jackie scored four goals in the last six minutes including two in the last minute.
I was a very mature fifteen years old! 🤯
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Bob on April 28, 2022, 08:43:49 PM
Buxton promoted to the NLN as NPL champions.
This was the same manager that was doing so well with Curzon at the start of the season, had them playing well vs us preseason

Yep he's definitely chosen a shrewd gig there, they've got some money behind them - will be interesting to see how they get on in the NLN next season.

He's just quit
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 28, 2022, 09:02:14 PM
That's a bit of a surprise. Be interesting to see if he moves on quickly to a lucrative job.

Incidently, Chester manager (Steve Watson ex York) is leaving at the end of the season. Wonder if there's a connection there?
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 28, 2022, 09:04:22 PM
Buxton promoted to the NLN as NPL champions.
This was the same manager that was doing so well with Curzon at the start of the season, had them playing well vs us preseason

Yep he's definitely chosen a shrewd gig there, they've got some money behind them - will be interesting to see how they get on in the NLN next season.

He's just quit

Bloody hell! I did think it was quite a long way for him to go. I wonder where he'll end up next. I'm sure Buxton will be able to attract a decent calibre of manager.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on April 28, 2022, 09:12:40 PM
Buxton promoted to the NLN as NPL champions.
This was the same manager that was doing so well with Curzon at the start of the season, had them playing well vs us preseason

Yep he's definitely chosen a shrewd gig there, they've got some money behind them - will be interesting to see how they get on in the NLN next season.

He's just quit

Bloody hell! I did think it was quite a long way for him to go. I wonder where he'll end up next. I'm sure Buxton will be able to attract a decent calibre of manager.

Steve Cunningham did say the travelling to Buxton was too far, and, as he managed Colne before Curzon, I am guessing he is from the East Lancashire area.  I think he would be a very good fit for a relegated Guiseley, where Steve Kittrick is currently just caretaker manager at the end of the season.

Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 28, 2022, 09:34:49 PM
He's from Rawtenstall. 55 minutes, motorway all the way to Chester. 😉
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Freddie on April 28, 2022, 09:35:59 PM
He left Curzon because they caught him talking to another club so he will definitely have something lined up.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 29, 2022, 07:30:36 AM
He left Curzon because they caught him talking to another club so he will definitely have something lined up.

He's always struck me as a bit of a Poundland Steve Evans to be honest.

You can tell by the language he uses - 'my growing CV' - he's clearly just in it for himself.

Wouldn't want him anywhere near a club like ours at any stage.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 29, 2022, 12:53:08 PM
The Chester forum seems to think Watson left because there's no money there and Buxton are apparently heavily backed.
They seem to think there's a chance of him going to Buxton and cunningham coming to Chester.
Seems a long shot but wouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: swindellsworth on April 29, 2022, 01:23:46 PM
First time I saw Scarborough we beat em 6-0 in the FA Cup. Jackie scored five and pat connelly scored the other.
If my memory serves me correctly, Jackie scored four goals in the last six minutes including two in the last minute.
I was a very mature fifteen years old! 🤯
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: swindellsworth on April 29, 2022, 01:29:09 PM
You always got your swindellsworth with Jackie .😀
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 29, 2022, 01:53:40 PM
Indeed. With the (junior) admission prices in those days it must work out at about tuppence a goal! 😉
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: swindellsworth on April 29, 2022, 10:48:27 PM
🤣
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 08, 2022, 11:16:57 AM
...so Scarborough did indeed defeat Warrington to clinch their place in the National League North next season. Another 'big name' at that level, which is good to see.

They'll be joined by an entirely new proposition at that level in the form of Peterborough Sports, who defeated Coalville in the Southern League Central playoffs.

Unless they've vastly improved, it probably says something about the disparity between northern and central levels that Coalville can contest the central final.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on May 08, 2022, 12:05:36 PM
If Peterborough sports do go into the North, there'll be decent Christmas fixtures without much travelling with them, Kettering and Brackley playing eachother.
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 08, 2022, 12:07:39 PM
If Peterborough sports do go into the North, there'll be decent Christmas fixtures without much travelling with them, Kettering and Brackley playing eachother.

King's Lynn too
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on May 08, 2022, 12:12:03 PM
Perhaps Boston as well?
Title: Re: A bit of a National League North thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 08, 2022, 12:58:27 PM
Yes, there could be quite a big cluster of sides within reasonably reachable distance from each other on that patch compared to most other seasons.

If they have to readjust the boundaries, it might make most sense to move Gloucester back over to the South again.