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Title: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 20, 2022, 09:45:17 AM
Not quite a must win but definitely a must not lose.

Assuming no Hampson or Kosylo.

          Thompson

Morgan.  Mullarky. Hannigan. White

           Osbourne. Furman

   Mooney.  Hancock.   Colclough

                     Hulme

Alty 2-1 Torquay (Hancock,Pringle)


Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 20, 2022, 10:05:05 AM
Front four picks itself.

Not sure of the obsession with Furman; I haven't seen anything from him to warrant a starting place.

Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 20, 2022, 10:08:15 AM
Front four picks itself.

Not sure of the obsession with Furman; I haven't seen anything from him to warrant a starting place.

He is sharper than Moult and most definitely better than putting Toby in there, not sure if Marriott is fit
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on January 20, 2022, 10:22:49 AM
I'd go Furman and Moult.

Now is not the time to drop your captain.

I'd also be tempted to try Osborne as the attacking midfielder. Hancock has been pony for weeks.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 20, 2022, 10:47:52 AM
I think the argument for Furman is to play him in front of the back four with Osborne a more attacking player.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 20, 2022, 11:02:53 AM
Front four picks itself.

Not sure of the obsession with Furman; I haven't seen anything from him to warrant a starting place.

I'm not obseesed with Furman
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on January 20, 2022, 11:22:47 AM
I'm not forecasting the team, just hope the 2/3 training sessions have worked wonders and we turn up positive and get at Torquay from the off. Positive result would be nice.

#coyr
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on January 20, 2022, 12:29:13 PM
It’s pretty much Saturday to Saturday now for the rest of the season for us so the extra rest & time to train will hopefully kick in.

Seems like the first ‘normal’ home game in ages-ie not a huge local derby with the away fans banging on about tickets, not got half the ground shut by the council & covid concerns beginning to ease nationwide.

I wouldn’t want to predict the team or anything but suffice to say no more hard luck stories about playing well & getting nothing, no more 2-0 down then start playing just be at it 100% from the off & give your all lads & see where that takes us. We beat these on their own patch comfortably and we can do it again.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on January 20, 2022, 12:30:44 PM
I'd go Furman and Moult.

Now is not the time to drop your captain.

I'd also be tempted to try Osborne as the attacking midfielder. Hancock has been pony for weeks.
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I think that is how I would go too.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Toff Apple on January 20, 2022, 01:28:00 PM
First goal wins
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 20, 2022, 02:20:32 PM
Would like a clean sheet too 😉
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Salfordalty on January 20, 2022, 03:40:11 PM
I'd go Furman and Moult.

Now is not the time to drop your captain.

I'd also be tempted to try Osborne as the attacking midfielder. Hancock has been pony for weeks.

Agree with this. Our best spell was with Moult and Furman in the middle.

Would be telling Moult not to go past the half way line all game. Too slow to get back these days. Part of the reason we open up like the red sea when teams break and run at us is because he isn't able to keep up.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 20, 2022, 05:13:48 PM
I think I'd prefer Moult and Pringle, like earlier in the season.

Our form was pretty decent back then.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Salfordalty on January 20, 2022, 07:04:06 PM
I think I'd prefer Moult and Pringle, like earlier in the season.

Our form was pretty decent back then.

Pringle gets caught out too often when he is that deep. Needs more space to work. If you are gonna play him you would play him in the number 10. Personally I would give him a chance at 10 since Hancock appears to be out of form
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Hugh on January 20, 2022, 08:42:23 PM
I'm not forecasting the team, just hope the 2/3 training sessions have worked wonders and we turn up positive and get at Torquay from the off. Positive result would be nice.

#coyr

Things hopefully back to normal at home for the first time in weeks so we have no excuse. Torquay will be a good measure of where we are at now. I still think we have enough to stay up comfortably. Other teams have problems too.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on January 20, 2022, 09:23:57 PM
We have missed Kossy, hopefully he will make a surprise return.

Never thought I would say this but Hancock should be dropped,but at the same time I have a gut feeling he may bag this weekend.

Open to trying Osborne further forward, but still feel Pringle deserves a start in No.10.

Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: finnquark1 on January 20, 2022, 09:54:11 PM
Pringle started at 10 vs Southend and was dire.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 21, 2022, 07:49:26 AM
The other option of course (which is what we should have done if he wanted to 'show respect' to Stockport - which wouldn't have involved faffing with the back line) - is play a 4141 with Jake sitting in front of the defence doing the mopping up, two number 8s (e.g. Osborne and Pringle) - and doing away with a number 10.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 21, 2022, 08:52:53 AM
That would be great if Moult was the mobile Moult of a couple of years ago but nowadays sadly he'd be caught out too often. He's been a fabulous servant for the club but needs a younger mobile teammate alongside him. I think marriott was brought in for this role (?)

By the way, I believe that role is the one that Furman has been accustomed to playing. 
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 21, 2022, 10:52:01 AM
Sadly I have to agree with the fact that Jake is no longer the player he was. He does get caught out more often these days.
I have nothing but respect for the lad who has served this club very well, but I do feel that nowadays, we do have  more mobile lads who can do that job.

Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on January 21, 2022, 11:04:44 AM
Jake has done a superb job against direct opposition this season. Funnily enough, Torquay away was one of those games where we dealt with everything that was thrown at us. Barnet was very similar a couple of weeks ago and I think Jake was pivotal in that.

Respectfully, I do agree that when we play the more fluid, pressing sides some of the games have passed him by. That's why I'd play both him and Furman, as we did at Dagenham and they controlled the game so well there.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 21, 2022, 11:27:24 AM
Jake has done a superb job against direct opposition this season. Funnily enough, Torquay away was one of those games where we dealt with everything that was thrown at us. Barnet was very similar a couple of weeks ago and I think Jake was pivotal in that.

Respectfully, I do agree that when we play the more fluid, pressing sides some of the games have passed him by. That's why I'd play both him and Furman, as we did at Dagenham and they controlled the game so well there.

Fair point
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Strong summer needed on January 21, 2022, 12:33:38 PM
Please park considerately
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on January 21, 2022, 01:56:34 PM
Well that’s Furman out the running!
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on January 21, 2022, 01:58:59 PM
Well that’s Furman out the running!
Real shame, never thought he was given a proper chance of a run in the team.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on January 21, 2022, 02:14:38 PM
Another thoroughly bizzare signing. Spent pretty much all his time at Alty either injured or on the bench.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 21, 2022, 02:38:26 PM
Yes. Thanks for your efforts Dean and good luck in the future.
I too didn't think he was given much of a run but that's by the way now.
Is Parky lining up a signing and making space in the squad (and the budget)?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 21, 2022, 02:46:28 PM
Think he's been treated quite shabbily personnely.

Good luck to him
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 21, 2022, 03:09:51 PM
Ffs surely they could have extended his stay until the end of the season.

Some decisions bewilder me sometimes

One minute we’re praising a bloke because he has signed for us and we’re singing his praises, next thing he is released, without (in my mind) getting a decent chance to show his usefulness.

Jake will be a certainty for tomorrow now.

Good luck Dean, I thought you were a decent player.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Stuartalty on January 21, 2022, 04:36:53 PM
It is always possible that he wanted to leave
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 21, 2022, 04:46:44 PM
It is always possible that he wanted to leave

He wanted to play I would say. Simple as that.
He's not getting any younger and the end of the window is looming. I'm sure he'll get fixed up.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 21, 2022, 05:53:23 PM
It is always possible that he wanted to leave


Id imagine he can't get out quick enough
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 21, 2022, 06:09:12 PM
It is always possible that he wanted to leave


Id imagine he can't get out quick enough

Yep, can’t blame him
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on January 21, 2022, 07:03:36 PM
Agree with all the comments re. Furman. Having signed Marriott and Osbourne, I can only imagine that PP saw Furman as surplus.

He has probably got a replacement lined up, maybe a younger, more defensive midfielder with the future in mind.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 21, 2022, 07:16:06 PM
I haven’t seen a Grimsby match report from PP or have I missed it
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 21, 2022, 07:44:36 PM
It is always possible that he wanted to leave


Id imagine he can't get out quick enough



He appears to be busy with his job as a co-commentator on the Africa Cup of Nations:

https://icdb.tv/stats/8261/Dean-Furman (https://icdb.tv/stats/8261/Dean-Furman)
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 21, 2022, 07:48:42 PM
It says on there that he commentated on the Alty vs Gateshead fa cup game? 🤯
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Freddie on January 21, 2022, 07:56:21 PM
Wow, some really insightful posts on Dean's departure on here. I can only assume we have his agent, or perhaps a board member posting under a clever pseudonym.

How do you all know that this contract didn't suit Dean and his lifestyle? He is a player coming to the end of his career and runs his own business. How do you know that he has been fit to play the whole time? How do you know if he hasn't been to South Africa and back for work during this time?

You don't.

Anyway, good luck Dean. I really enjoyed seeing you play for us.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Salfordalty on January 22, 2022, 10:53:55 AM
Wow, some really insightful posts on Dean's departure on here. I can only assume we have his agent, or perhaps a board member posting under a clever pseudonym.

How do you all know that this contract didn't suit Dean and his lifestyle? He is a player coming to the end of his career and runs his own business. How do you know that he has been fit to play the whole time? How do you know if he hasn't been to South Africa and back for work during this time?

You don't.

Anyway, good luck Dean. I really enjoyed seeing you play for us.


He has been on the bench for many games. I doubt he has managed to be in SA and on the bench for us at the same time.

Never given a fair chance. Assume he wants to be somewhere where he can just play. Hope we have someone on the way in.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on January 22, 2022, 11:08:38 AM
fancy us to win this one,will be a tight game though with us nicking it.I have my ham and pickle sandwich on standby for my lunch and will be in my alty shirt and robin hat.We have so far picked up 7 points out of 9 against west country teams this season
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 22, 2022, 11:24:22 AM
I expect Parky will be telling them that just because we won down there we mustn't be complacent.
However if we go into it focused and are roared on by a good crowd, despite their improved form since we won there, I believe we can win this one.
Don't think we'll get a clean sheet sadly but I'd settle for the three points! 😎
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on January 22, 2022, 12:58:16 PM
Ffs surely they could have extended his stay until the end of the season.

Some decisions bewilder me sometimes

One minute we’re praising a bloke because he has signed for us and we’re singing his praises, next thing he is released, without (in my mind) getting a decent chance to show his usefulness.

Jake will be a certainty for tomorrow now.

Good luck Dean, I thought you were a decent player.



It's always interesting how people see games and players differently. Personally I thought Furman had a fair few chances and was never much good. Seemed to give the ball away a lot and put pressure on the defence. Would rather have had Sean Williams.

Agree on the hyperbole surrounding Furman's signing, maybe that inflated expectations. That is not Furmans fault btw, that was the clubs giddy marketing.

Hopefully frees up some of the budget to get a better player in.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on January 22, 2022, 02:39:03 PM
todays team,no tom hannigan?
 Tony Thompson, Jake Moult (c), Dan Mooney, Elliot Osborne, Josh Hancock, Ryan Colclough, Kennedy Digie, Jamie Morgan, Kevin Berkoe, Toby Mullarkey, Jordan Hulme.
 Subs: Shaun Densmore, Ben Pringle, A-Jay Leitch-Smith, Steven Drench, Isaac Marriott.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 22, 2022, 02:45:24 PM
Don't know what to think. Covid?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on January 22, 2022, 02:46:32 PM
wish they would say he is injured or what-ever
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on January 22, 2022, 02:47:13 PM
mind you they have no sign of dean moxey who is a very good player
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 22, 2022, 03:10:17 PM
So no clean sheet again. 😒
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on January 22, 2022, 03:17:38 PM
Weak at centre back and DM. Could lose by a few I'm afraid.

Or maybe not  ;D
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: JD on January 22, 2022, 05:06:53 PM
Weak at centre back and DM. Could lose by a few I'm afraid.

Or maybe not  ;D

Not mentioning any names, but how the hell did he get MotM after THAT mistake?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 22, 2022, 05:11:17 PM
2 points off fourth bottom, the last safe spot, and the teams below us have got two or three games in hand.
Just saying... 🙄
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: finnquark1 on January 22, 2022, 05:11:32 PM
At what point does this nonsense become untenable, do people think?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 22, 2022, 05:22:57 PM
Who made the 'defensive error'?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Leon on January 22, 2022, 05:38:07 PM
At what point does this nonsense become untenable, do people think?

Pretty soon. The KL and Weymouth games in Feb are clearly going to be crucial now to keep us away from the relegation places and we can't afford to go into those games in this kind of form.

Clearly we're not likely to get anything at Solihull. So I'd say if we don't beat Woking on Feb 5th, that's when we should look to make a change to give us some sort of lift going into those two huge matches.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on January 22, 2022, 05:47:32 PM
Don't know what to think. Covid?

Tom was sat in main stand
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on January 22, 2022, 05:51:25 PM
Game we should have got something from, but defensive errors cost us today. Not sure why we don't have Sutton back. Got to stop this rot

Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: altyusa on January 22, 2022, 05:52:48 PM
If the “change” involves getting rid of the management team I’d be strongly against that.   Yes, we are now in a relegation battle and if we were to go down I think the least we could do is give Parky and Neil , who got us here (ahead of schedule remember) a chance to get us out of it.   This is a brutal, unforgiving league, especially for teams with our resources.    All the loan deals, chopping and changing of lineups necessitated by our situation makes it very hard to manage.   Let’s hope we can somehow extricate ourselves from this.   Cut out the defensive silliness and for Christ’s sake, can we put our chances away?!😕
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on January 22, 2022, 06:14:48 PM
forgot about sutton,he would be better that the player that was brought into the team again today
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on January 22, 2022, 06:15:58 PM
Well on a positive note the full backs looked good and it was a great strike from Toby for the equaliser.
Confidence improved and we looked the better side for rest of the first half.

Then we started the second half dozily - unusual for us as we usually start the second half well and get better from there.
If we can get Richie Sutton back that is an obvious move. Don't ever remember him letting us down.

Any problems with the floodlights need sorting - it is tedious and amateurish.

Clearly down on confidence, need to get a raggedy arsed win from somewhere.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Leon on January 22, 2022, 06:18:51 PM
If the “change” involves getting rid of the management team I’d be strongly against that.   Yes, we are now in a relegation battle and if we were to go down I think the least we could do is give Parky and Neil , who got us here (ahead of schedule remember) a chance to get us out of it.   This is a brutal, unforgiving league, especially for teams with our resources.    All the loan deals, chopping and changing of lineups necessitated by our situation makes it very hard to manage.   Let’s hope we can somehow extricate ourselves from this.   Cut out the defensive silliness and for Christ’s sake, can we put our penalties away?!!😕

We weren't awarded a penalty today.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 22, 2022, 06:22:38 PM
If we beat Kings Lynn and Weymouth we'll stay up easily but that's beginning to look like a big 'if' as both are showing a bit of fight and starting to pick up points.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: altyusa on January 22, 2022, 06:29:12 PM
We weren't awarded a penalty today.

Leon.  My mistake, off text it looked like the Colclough free kick off the post was a pen!!! I didn’t read closely enough 😕🤷🏼‍♂️
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on January 22, 2022, 06:42:17 PM
We weren't but arguably should have been as, from my vantage point near the Corner Flag the injury time foul looked clearly inside the area
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 22, 2022, 09:49:03 PM
Was it me or did anyone else think Ryan Colclough gave a good impression of a person wishing he was somewhere else today. Yes his free kick  was very good, but he gave me the impression of being very sulky today…

As for the game.   Another error strewn day at the back gifted Torquay the game, it’s beyond a joke now how we piss about with passing the ball back all the time then Tommo giving stupid balls out to defenders who become under pressure straight away.

I think it’s time Sutton came back.  I’m not a fan of Digie he is always one pass away from an errant ball to the opposition ie Torquay’s winner.

a bloke asked me if I wanted a golden goal ticket today I said only if it has a time of under ten mins, (goal conceded after just 5 1/2 mins.

Worrying times at Moss Lane, teams have sussed us and stop us building from the back

One last moan .. What the hell is wrong with the floodlights, another blackout just as the second half was about to start

A great goal by Toby and I thought the two fullbacks gave a good account of themselves as did Osbourne.

I think Mooney would be better on the Left wing as when he plays on the right he keeps checking back inside as he is very left foot dominant.

Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Is this it? on January 22, 2022, 11:14:42 PM
No denying it’s been a torrid 3 months results wise.  I didn’t think we’d beat Torquay before the game, but we gifted them both goals and that’s incredibly frustrating.  I’ve never liked, nor understood, our insistence on playing the ball laterally across the back; it invites the oppo to press forward and we simply can’t cope.  We are far, far better when we play positive.
Worth pointing out, I feel is that the table shows clearly the split between traditional NL clubs and the clubs that’ve been relegated.  Gulf between the two still exists and we should be mindful
If this when we are quick to criticise.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: alty.fc on January 23, 2022, 09:00:32 AM
Was it me or did anyone else think Ryan Colclough gave a good impression of a person wishing he was somewhere else today. Yes his free kick  was very good, but he gave me the impression of being very sulky today…

As for the game.   Another error strewn day at the back gifted Torquay the game, it’s beyond a joke now how we piss about with passing the ball back all the time then Tommo giving stupid balls out to defenders who become under pressure straight away.

I think it’s time Sutton came back.  I’m not a fan of Digie he is always one pass away from an errant ball to the opposition ie Torquay’s winner.

a bloke asked me if I wanted a golden goal ticket today I said only if it has a time of under ten mins, (goal conceded after just 5 1/2 mins.

Worrying times at Moss Lane, teams have sussed us and stop us building from the back

One last moan .. What the hell is wrong with the floodlights, another blackout just as the second half was about to start

A great goal by Toby and I thought the two fullbacks gave a good account of themselves as did Osbourne.

I think Mooney would be better on the Left wing as when he plays on the right he keeps checking back inside as he is very left foot dominant.
I thought colclough was pretty much our best player on the pitch showed flair and creates space for others on the pitch time and time again. On the point of him wanting to be somewhere else with his skill I'm sure your right
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: alty.fc on January 23, 2022, 09:05:27 AM
I see Jordan Is yet to score for us still..... I do have some sympathy as for large parts he is cutting a lone figure up front . I wonder if he can score consistently at this level as we urgently need more goals
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 23, 2022, 09:46:23 AM
I see Jordan Is yet to score for us still..... I do have some sympathy as for large parts he is cutting a lone figure up front . I wonder if he can score consistently at this level as we urgently need more goals

It isn't strictly about him scoring - it's more his ability to hold the ball up and create opportunities for others. He isn't being helped by those around him, and particularly Hancock who is well below the form we know he can produce.

The whole team seems to be drained of confidence. We're guaranteed to drop to 17th on Tuesday night, since Aldershot play Southend, and whatever the result one of them will go above us. Defeat at Solihull next Saturday will leave us sitting ducks for the chasing pack. Weymouth got a great point yesterday, and I don't rule out the possibility of them actually winning their two upcoming home games against Dagenham and Aldershot. I really can't rule out the possibility of us being relegated unless we start picking up points, and February is vital for that purpose, as we have three home games (Woking, Weymouth, Dagenham) and a visit to Kings Lynn. We also have a blank Saturday when others could gain ground on us.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: wayno on January 23, 2022, 10:23:27 AM
For me we have to beat Weymouth kings Lynne and Dover and we will stay up . If we don't it could be heartbreak for us
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on January 23, 2022, 12:49:48 PM
If a team is going to play out from the back the way we are clearly trying to do then they have to be at least similar level footballers and preferably better.

In NLN we were better and could our football teams.

At this level we're simply not.

Therefore I think an alternative may be required
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Brian Flynn on January 23, 2022, 01:08:26 PM
I see Jordan Is yet to score for us still..... I do have some sympathy as for large parts he is cutting a lone figure up front . I wonder if he can score consistently at this level as we urgently need more goals

It isn't strictly about him scoring - it's more his ability to hold the ball up and create opportunities for others. He isn't being helped by those around him, and particularly Hancock who is well below the form we know he can produce.

The whole team seems to be drained of confidence. We're guaranteed to drop to 17th on Tuesday night, since Aldershot play Southend, and whatever the result one of them will go above us. Defeat at Solihull next Saturday will leave us sitting ducks for the chasing pack. Weymouth got a great point yesterday, and I don't rule out the possibility of them actually winning their two upcoming home games against Dagenham and Aldershot. I really can't rule out the possibility of us being relegated unless we start picking up points, and February is vital for that purpose, as we have three home games (Woking, Weymouth, Dagenham) and a visit to Kings Lynn. We also have a blank Saturday when others could gain ground on us.

The rearrangement of the King's Lynn game means that we do not have a blank Saturday in February, Phil.
https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/kings-lynn-town-v-altrincham-rearranged

Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 23, 2022, 01:41:25 PM
I see Jordan Is yet to score for us still..... I do have some sympathy as for large parts he is cutting a lone figure up front . I wonder if he can score consistently at this level as we urgently need more goals

It isn't strictly about him scoring - it's more his ability to hold the ball up and create opportunities for others. He isn't being helped by those around him, and particularly Hancock who is well below the form we know he can produce.

The whole team seems to be drained of confidence. We're guaranteed to drop to 17th on Tuesday night, since Aldershot play Southend, and whatever the result one of them will go above us. Defeat at Solihull next Saturday will leave us sitting ducks for the chasing pack. Weymouth got a great point yesterday, and I don't rule out the possibility of them actually winning their two upcoming home games against Dagenham and Aldershot. I really can't rule out the possibility of us being relegated unless we start picking up points, and February is vital for that purpose, as we have three home games (Woking, Weymouth, Dagenham) and a visit to Kings Lynn. We also have a blank Saturday when others could gain ground on us.

The rearrangement of the King's Lynn game means that we do not have a blank Saturday in February, Phil.
https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/kings-lynn-town-v-altrincham-rearranged

Mea culpa - failed to update my fixture list !
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 23, 2022, 01:42:13 PM
I see Jordan Is yet to score for us still..... I do have some sympathy as for large parts he is cutting a lone figure up front . I wonder if he can score consistently at this level as we urgently need more goals

It isn't strictly about him scoring - it's more his ability to hold the ball up and create opportunities for others. He isn't being helped by those around him, and particularly Hancock who is well below the form we know he can produce.
The whole team seems to be drained of confidence. We're guaranteed to drop to 17th on Tuesday night, since Aldershot play Southend, and whatever the result one of them will go above us. Defeat at Solihull next Saturday will leave us sitting ducks for the chasing pack. Weymouth got a great point yesterday, and I don't rule out the possibility of them actually winning their two upcoming home games against Dagenham and Aldershot. I really can't rule out the possibility of us being relegated unless we start picking up points, and February is vital for that purpose, as we have three home games (Woking, Weymouth, Dagenham) and a visit to Kings Lynn. We also have a blank Saturday when others could gain ground on us.

The rearrangement of the King's Lynn game means that we do not have a blank Saturday in February, Phil.
https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/kings-lynn-town-v-altrincham-rearranged

Brian. Are we getting a post match interview later this week?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 23, 2022, 03:29:29 PM
For me we have to beat Weymouth kings Lynne and Dover and we will stay up . If we don't it could be heartbreak for us

The problem is that in the early stages of the season when we were getting results and were seen as dangerous perhaps teams stood off us more than now. At the moment we're seen, especially by those around us who also need to pick up points, as an opportunity to do that. Teams have worked us out and are emboldened to attack us.
We need to work on our defence and focus on effective counterattacking because that's the way forward imvho.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 23, 2022, 06:23:28 PM


I can't help but feel that a decent opportunity to achieve a long-awaited victory was squandered yesterday, as Torquay United were missing their best two defenders, Joe Lewis and Dean Moxey, owing to self-isolation.

Nonetheless, we ultimately didn't deserve to get anything out of the game. That flurry in the closing ten minutes merely flattered to deceive, as Torquay should have put the game to bed in the 64th minute when Lemonheigh-Evans inexplicably contrived to shoot over the crossbar from close range.

It's difficult to see where our next win is going to come from at present, particularly as we seem incapable of keeping a clean sheet.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 23, 2022, 07:25:33 PM
In truth the lack of goals by the strike force has been the forefront of posts on here over recent times.

A pity the same cannot be said of the number conceded..

Food for thought.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 23, 2022, 07:39:17 PM
Some on here had said that it was a good thing that the scoring was being shared around.
The other point of course is that as long as we're scoring three, letting in two was not a problem.
With all the disruption due to injury and covid, the scoring has dried up and the focus has shifted towards the defence and lack of clean sheets.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 23, 2022, 08:30:08 PM
We need to start better. Every game of late we concede early then put ourselves behind the eight ball, consequently putting even more pressure on the strikers to score.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 23, 2022, 10:43:57 PM
In truth the lack of goals by the strike force has been the forefront of posts on here over recent times.

A pity the same cannot be said of the number conceded..

Food for thought.

A very salient point Ray. It hasn't helped that, for various reasons, we've hardly fielded the same defence in more than two consecutive games this season.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 23, 2022, 11:36:50 PM
In truth the lack of goals by the strike force has been the forefront of posts on here over recent times.

A pity the same cannot be said of the number conceded..

Food for thought.

A very salient point Ray. It hasn't helped that, for various reasons, we've hardly fielded the same defence in more than two consecutive games this season.

You make a very good point, we once could pick the team on here and pretty much get it correct. Consistency is the route to a balanced team who can gel together thus playing well. There is far too much change these days. Granted some is enforced. I believe we have used some 40 odd players this season.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on January 24, 2022, 09:24:08 AM
Interview from Toby

https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/alty-tv-interview-with-toby-mullarkey-after-torquay-defeat

Honest interview and hopefully Toby is correct in what he's saying that we can turn it around.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: RobskiRobin on January 24, 2022, 09:30:59 AM
0 wins in 10 in the league and 1 in 16. SIXTEEN!!

But it’s ok because we’ve got 2 of the bottom 3 coming up. It’s so far from being acceptable it’s beyond belief!
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 24, 2022, 10:17:34 AM
0 wins in 10 in the league and 1 in 16. SIXTEEN!!

But it’s ok because we’ve got 2 of the bottom 3 coming up. It’s so far from being acceptable it’s beyond belief!

But are we good enough to beat those 2 of the bottom 3 ?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 24, 2022, 10:39:46 AM
Of course we are.
If we play with belief (yes, I know) we are certainly capable of doing that and securing our place up here for next year.
The big question of course is what changes we make to the squad in the close season and whether we can chance going hybrid and improving our target pool of players to make us truly competitive.
I mean that's another point. Given the current squad are aware of those plans, is it having an effect on their motivation?
The next few months are vital for us.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Bath Alty on January 24, 2022, 11:22:33 AM
Top marks to the media team. Calls on here for player interviews and one appears after the next game. Well done!
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on January 24, 2022, 11:49:01 AM
Top marks to the media team. Calls on here for player interviews and one appears after the next game. Well done!

Was just about to post something similar. Completely agree, cheers Brian.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on January 24, 2022, 05:06:36 PM
I've just watched the highlights. We could have done better with ten men.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Salfordalty on January 24, 2022, 08:29:24 PM
For me we have to beat Weymouth kings Lynne and Dover and we will stay up . If we don't it could be heartbreak for us


We all know we are going to be the only team that dover beat all season.

Worrying times at the moment. On current form we won't beat anyone in this league.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on January 25, 2022, 10:50:59 AM
Update from Phil after defeat.

https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/phil-parkinson-interview-after-torquay-defeat

You can see he's fuming in the interview over the errors, I'm not going to bang on, he's correct in the fact that we need to cut the errors out and stay switched on. Let's hope we have a good few sessions this week and improved performance at Solihull.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: MadFrankie on January 25, 2022, 12:18:46 PM
Let's hope we have a good few sessions this week and improved performance at Solihull.
Hearing that Tom's out for a couple of weeks doesn't fill me with confidence for Solihull. I'm still going, but in hope rather than expectation.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 25, 2022, 12:29:29 PM
If Hannigan is out I'd play moult at cb and Osbourne and marriot as the 2 cdms assuming we go 4-2-3-1
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 25, 2022, 12:37:24 PM
100% this!
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Ukrainian Alty on January 25, 2022, 12:38:40 PM
I have some family living in Ukraine close to the Russian border in the east.

They don't seem to be concerned about Alty's collapse in form or Digies poor passing.

Some people.  I ask you.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: wayno on January 25, 2022, 01:19:51 PM
I do hope they are ok and all works out for them  . But like your strap line says alty is life . And this is an Alty forum (well it was last time I looked) and not a political forum I'll save that joy for other platforms .
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on January 25, 2022, 01:40:12 PM
If Tom is out I'd be going flat out, I mean absolutely flat out, at getting a replacement in. Dallas scored 5 last time out, he'd fancy his chances of 6 against us!
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on January 25, 2022, 01:40:33 PM
I do hope they are ok and all works out for them  . But like your strap line says alty is life . And this is an Alty forum (well it was last time I looked) and not a political forum I'll save that joy for other platforms .

Well said Wayno.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 25, 2022, 02:47:54 PM
Correct Wayno.

Some people eh
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: wayno on January 25, 2022, 03:02:19 PM
Correct Wayno.

Some people eh
the forum will be full of covid and Chris senior next .
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on January 25, 2022, 03:07:06 PM
Correct Wayno.

Some people eh
the forum will be full of covid and Chris senior next .
Never seen a post on either topic
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: wayno on January 25, 2022, 03:08:55 PM
Correct Wayno.

Some people eh
the forum will be full of covid and Chris senior next .
Never seen a post on either topic
and that is the way it needs to stay please 👀👀😂😂
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Ukrainian Alty on January 25, 2022, 03:33:57 PM
I have some family living in Ukraine close to the Russian border in the east.

They don't seem to be concerned about Alty's collapse in form or Digies poor passing.

Some people.  I ask you.

Sorry, by 'Some people' I actually meant me. I will leave the attempts at dark humour alone in future.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: wayno on January 25, 2022, 03:52:37 PM
I have some family living in Ukraine close to the Russian border in the east.

They don't seem to be concerned about Alty's collapse in form or Digies poor passing.

Some people.  I ask you.

Sorry, by 'Some people' I actually meant me. I will leave the attempts at dark humour alone in future.
I consider myself to be one of the most ironic people on here and it even went over my head sorry 😆
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on January 25, 2022, 04:19:02 PM
If Tom is out I'd be going flat out, I mean absolutely flat out, at getting a replacement in. Dallas scored 5 last time out, he'd fancy his chances of 6 against us!

Harrison Holgate doesn't appear to be playing much. I can't find any indication that he is injured, either.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on January 25, 2022, 05:08:04 PM
Correct Wayno.

Some people eh
the forum will be full of covid and Chris senior next .
Never seen a post on either topic
and that is the way it needs to stay please 👀👀😂😂
I'd love that tbh... unless someone knows exactly where Chris Senior is.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on January 25, 2022, 05:22:45 PM
Correct Wayno.

Some people eh
the forum will be full of covid and Chris senior next .
Never seen a post on either topic
and that is the way it needs to stay please 👀👀😂😂
I'd love that tbh... unless someone knows exactly where Chris Senior is.

I am Chris Senior.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 25, 2022, 05:24:32 PM
Not again!
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: wayno on January 25, 2022, 06:36:00 PM
Correct Wayno.

Some people eh
the forum will be full of covid and Chris senior next .
Never seen a post on either topic
and that is the way it needs to stay please 👀👀😂😂
I'd love that tbh... unless someone knows exactly where Chris Senior is.

I am Chris Senior.
exciting development could you fill us in where you are now please and what you did after Alty please ?

Also are you able to get to Solihull on Saturday ?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: wayno on January 25, 2022, 06:36:58 PM
Not again!
I feel we need this fun 😂
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 25, 2022, 07:03:50 PM
Not again!
I feel we need this fun 😂

I suppose you're right mate.
Goodness knows we've had little enough to smile about lately! 😉
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on January 25, 2022, 07:44:54 PM
Correct Wayno.

Some people eh
the forum will be full of covid and Chris senior next .
Never seen a post on either topic
and that is the way it needs to stay please 👀👀😂😂
I'd love that tbh... unless someone knows exactly where Chris Senior is.

I am Chris Senior.
exciting development could you fill us in where you are now please and what you did after Alty please ?

Also are you able to get to Solihull on Saturday ?

I'm not really. I can't get to Solihull either.

I'm just an out of shape lard arse.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: wayno on January 25, 2022, 07:54:46 PM
Correct Wayno.

Some people eh
the forum will be full of covid and Chris senior next .
Never seen a post on either topic
and that is the way it needs to stay please 👀👀😂😂
I'd love that tbh... unless someone knows exactly where Chris Senior is.

I am Chris Senior.
exciting development could you fill us in where you are now please and what you did after Alty please ?

Also are you able to get to Solihull on Saturday ?

I'm not really. I can't get to Solihull either.

I'm just an out of shape lard arse.
bench perhaps ?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Salfordalty on January 25, 2022, 08:00:40 PM
Can we stop calling for Senior to comeback. We cannot compete with Darlington. We need to look forwards not backwards
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Bear Town Robin on January 25, 2022, 08:12:10 PM
His goal celebration buddy Greg Young is still playing at 38
https://www.rossingtonmainfc.co.uk/teams/7968/player/greg-young-2715728
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 26, 2022, 11:00:03 AM
If Tom is out I'd be going flat out, I mean absolutely flat out, at getting a replacement in. Dallas scored 5 last time out, he'd fancy his chances of 6 against us!

Harrison Holgate doesn't appear to be playing much. I can't find any indication that he is injured, either.

Neither he nor Barry Baggley were in the squad last night. I'd be happy to see either or both of them back here for a further spell.
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on January 26, 2022, 11:13:03 AM
Holgate was brilliant. Please PP, if you read this, please can we try and get him back?
Title: Re: Torquay Match Thread
Post by: wayno on January 26, 2022, 05:26:27 PM
Can we stop calling for Senior to comeback. We cannot compete with Darlington. We need to look forwards not backwards
he's at Darlington ?? !!