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Title: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: Hugh on October 10, 2021, 12:41:27 AM
I wonder if he will still get slated as he only scored one and fell over!

He's gonna be here for years! I shan't complain if he stays for some time anyway, as things stand. For me, he remains a useful squad player. Yes, only his first goal of the season, but according to the Alty Files (which I suspect doesn't allow for stoppage time in its calculations) he has played less than 90 minutes in total - so one goal in 84 minutes playing time. Yes there were one or two mistakes, but there were good touches too, and of course a goal - he seems to have a knack of finding good goal-scoring positions, and I have yet to be convinced that he is the liability that seems to be suggested sometimes.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 10, 2021, 08:05:58 AM
I think people forget he's quite young and can improve, I think he knows his role in the team and does it well.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: Alty Dave on October 10, 2021, 11:28:37 AM
Tom did great yesterday, he's a different type of striker, caused them a few problems when came on. You cannot fault his attitude, work rate etc, very useful player to have in the squad.

Usefully scores a few goals as well.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 10, 2021, 01:25:49 PM

Tom Peers features in glorious full colour in a photograph on the front cover of the Non League Paper.

One to cut out and frame. Indeed, I suspect that HashtagAlty has already got it hung up on a wall at his home...


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBUkCpKWYAALnhO?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: Alty Bri on October 10, 2021, 01:49:48 PM
Saw the front cover and just bought it for the first time in years  :)
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 10, 2021, 02:00:48 PM
Good match report too which makes a pleasant change.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on October 10, 2021, 02:04:27 PM
I'd still like to see us try him and Dinanga together, even if only for the last 20 minutes of a game.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: oneedham on October 10, 2021, 07:33:36 PM
I'd still like to see us try him and Dinanga together, even if only for the last 20 minutes of a game.

We would be too exposed having two strikers plus you then lose Hancock or Kossy, which for me is not an option.
I think Peers deserves a start.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: robininstockport on October 10, 2021, 09:39:08 PM
He does a fantastic job when he comes on as a sub but as a starter, not a prayer.

I'd imagine same starting 11 unless Colclough is available, then either Hancock or Kosylo drop out.

Having listened to their managers post match interview they won't be a goal threat!

Yeovil 1-3 Alty (Mooney 2, Dinanga)
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: Sale Holmfield on October 10, 2021, 10:50:57 PM
I got the Non-League Paper too for the first time for quite a while as there were several copies available at Tesco's in Sale.

We just don't change formation, so I can't see us having two strikers from the start. Unfortunately for Tom Peers, virtually everybody knows he's very effective as an impact substitute so I can't see him starting, for all his merits. Who knows, though, there may be some rotation in  view of the long journey to Yeovil.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: Silent but Ledley on October 11, 2021, 08:06:48 AM
There's a song coming on
Tom Peers, Tom Peers
He will be with us for years
...............
...............

Needs expanding, SBL
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: Alty Bri on October 11, 2021, 08:48:27 AM
Tom Peers is an impact sub, not a starter. I think we're averaging about 2 goals a game, so it may be that we don't actually need a goalscoring 9 - I don't know anymore. Still think Hanks could do it personally, but hey ho.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 11, 2021, 09:06:46 AM
Tom Peers is an impact sub, not a starter. I think we're averaging about 2 goals a game, so it may be that we don't actually need a goalscoring 9 - I don't know anymore. Still think Hanks could do it personally, but hey ho.

I used to think we did need a goal scoring number nine and we did but it seems to me that our system has changed in that we have a 9 who pulls the opposition defence around making space for the other forwards.
That's fine by me but surely it won't be as effective in the longer term if opponents realise he's not a threat in himself and start marking the wide men more (if they can 😉)
As others have noted, Tom is best used as an impact sub.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: oneedham on October 11, 2021, 09:24:56 AM
Tom Peers is an impact sub, not a starter. I think we're averaging about 2 goals a game, so it may be that we don't actually need a goalscoring 9 - I don't know anymore. Still think Hanks could do it personally, but hey ho.

I think Hanks would be our best option. This allows us then to have Kossy, Colclough and Mooney on the pitch.
Hanks is strong, can keep hold of the ball and has great movement.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 11, 2021, 10:07:52 AM
Tom Peers is an impact sub, not a starter. I think we're averaging about 2 goals a game, so it may be that we don't actually need a goalscoring 9 - I don't know anymore. Still think Hanks could do it personally, but hey ho.

I think Hanks would be our best option. This allows us then to have Kossy, Colclough and Mooney on the pitch.
Hanks is strong, can keep hold of the ball and has great movement.

I would quite like to see the four of them together, but I think the management team will keep faith in Dinanga for now - if it aint that broke, etc etc.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 11, 2021, 10:57:00 AM
As I've said on numerous platforms, I have no issue Tom being 2nd/3rd choice striker and being used as impact player.

Him regularly starting in the conference isn't the answer but long may Tom come on, run tired defenders ragged and chip in with goals.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on October 11, 2021, 04:19:10 PM
But what about Brad Jackson ? Need I remind you that he see up both goals on Saturday ? I'd consider Colclough in the hole.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 11, 2021, 05:24:26 PM
Thought Colclough was out with the lurgy?
As for Jackson, he's got to feature, but probably off the bench?
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 11, 2021, 05:42:05 PM
But what about Brad Jackson ? Need I remind you that he see up both goals on Saturday ? I'd consider Colclough in the hole.

He's a good back up player but should never play full back.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: distancetraveller on October 11, 2021, 06:18:57 PM
Brad Jackson is a very good winger who can play full back when necessar
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 11, 2021, 06:22:41 PM
Brad Jackson is a very good winger who can play full back when necessar

There's a huge difference between playing him for 90, 45 and 15 minutes to fill a gap at fullback

He was poor at times against Wealdstone, Grimsby hardly pulled up trees. He looked much more like the player we signed in his cameo on Saturday.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: Leon on October 11, 2021, 07:01:27 PM
Extremely odd to make an overall judgement on Brad Jackson based on his appearances as an emergency full back (where I personally think he’s done ok). He’s played all of ten minutes for us in his natural position and was absolutely superb.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 11, 2021, 07:39:43 PM

Extremely odd to make an overall judgement on Brad Jackson based on his appearances as an emergency full back (where I personally think he’s done ok). He’s played all of ten minutes for us in his natural position and was absolutely superb.


Exactly.

He was Colin Potts-esque when he came on against Maidenhead United.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: Ballers on October 11, 2021, 08:42:13 PM
Brad Jackson is a very good winger who can play full back when necessar

There's a huge difference between playing him for 90, 45 and 15 minutes to fill a gap at fullback

He was poor at times against Wealdstone, Grimsby hardly pulled up trees. He looked much more like the player we signed in his cameo on Saturday.

Ultimately though Jack, the gap is where the gap is. With Dens and Hampson not fully fit and Fitzpatrick going off injured twice we’re lacking a full back. I don’t think there’s really and option (perhaps try Dens at left back). Which is a shame because I think Senior and Mooney down the right flank is our best offensive weapon (Colclough isn’t arsed about his fullback overlapping him) and having Jackson to come on late as an out and out winger would be great.

But we are still at the stage where money is an object, if not the problem it has been in some respects, and there’s going to have to be a bit of balancing going on.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 11, 2021, 09:31:52 PM
Extremely odd to make an overall judgement on Brad Jackson based on his appearances as an emergency full back (where I personally think he’s done ok). He’s played all of ten minutes for us in his natural position and was absolutely superb.

Is it odd to say I don't want a winger playing full back?

I said he looked like the player we'd signed on Saturday (in his natural position) but he shouldn't be playing full back.

Just like playing Tom Peers at RW, Mallarky in CM or Kosylo in 10 is detrimental to their individual performances.

Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: Leon on October 11, 2021, 10:28:07 PM
Extremely odd to make an overall judgement on Brad Jackson based on his appearances as an emergency full back (where I personally think he’s done ok). He’s played all of ten minutes for us in his natural position and was absolutely superb.

Is it odd to say I don't want a winger playing full back?

I said he looked like the player we'd signed on Saturday (in his natural position) but he shouldn't be playing full back.

Just like playing Tom Peers at RW, Mallarky in CM or Kosylo in 10 is detrimental to their individual performances.



Nobody wants him playing there, I’d imagine - not him, not Phil, nobody. But with all the injury problems at fullback, needs must and Phil judged him to be the best available option. I think it is odd to object to it in those circumstances and odder still to hold it against Jackson in general as you seem to have done.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 12, 2021, 08:42:36 AM
Looks like Brad Jackson might be this season's Dan Mooney, who seemed to be written off last season.

I'm sure I wasn't the only one who checked the Chester thread when JJ first signed, to see how we was getting on - unanimously, they couldn't believe how far he was off the ability of their other winger, Brad Jackson - who was one of the first names on their team sheet before his injuries.

He'll be a great signing for us - particularly when games are stretched - he has JJ's pace, but with the build to at least put it about a bit too.

What a squad we have shaping up now.
Title: Re: Tommy Tommy Peers
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 12, 2021, 11:21:44 AM
Extremely odd to make an overall judgement on Brad Jackson based on his appearances as an emergency full back (where I personally think he’s done ok). He’s played all of ten minutes for us in his natural position and was absolutely superb.

Is it odd to say I don't want a winger playing full back?

I said he looked like the player we'd signed on Saturday (in his natural position) but he shouldn't be playing full back.

Just like playing Tom Peers at RW, Mallarky in CM or Kosylo in 10 is detrimental to their individual performances.



Nobody wants him playing there, I’d imagine - not him, not Phil, nobody. But with all the injury problems at fullback, needs must and Phil judged him to be the best available option. I think it is odd to object to it in those circumstances and odder still to hold it against Jackson in general as you seem to have done.

I haven't held it against him anywhere. If you follow the thread, there was a comment, the thread was on Peers, who I've held the same opinion of for 18 months (useful. Sqaud player shouldn't start on the wing and shouldn't start weekly upfront), Jackson was asked about.

LIKE Peers our reliance in a sqaure peg round hole is a concern, he's a solid winger.