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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Darren on June 05, 2021, 07:51:15 PM
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https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/helping-hand-for-young-fans-as-alty-extend-junior-age-range
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https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/helping-hand-for-young-fans-as-alty-extend-junior-age-range
First class move from the board
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Well done to the Club... great idea... 👏👏👏
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This will prove to be a hugely popular move, and one that is, I would argue, right and proper given the relatively small number of 16-18 yr olds who are in full-time employment compared to the generation that preceded it. Yet another example of sensible and progressive thinking from the Board. Well done.
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As I mentioned before, my first season ticket was 2 guineas and as I didn't turn 17 until 21 August 1967 I paid the same for my second one as I bought it in June. I had to pay the full whack the year after (4 guineas) which was such a stretch that I couldn't afford it the year after that.
It's a great gesture from the club and one which should be applauded.
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This is a brilliant decision by the club. I am a fan of 46 years. I made by spectators debut the day after my 17th birthday, 06th October 1974. I am a classic example of someone who would have benefitted from that. I had to cadge the money from my dad by washing his car.
I was in that age bracket myself and was at South Trafford College for the year until June 1975, when I started work. I did not become a real regular until I started work and could afford to go. But so began a love that lasted a life time, for the club. This is the support we need to attract, before they can go to United or City. A great decision by the board.
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Using the same logic they should raise the consesion age to 66
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Using the same logic they should raise the consesion age to 66
Fine by me. I'm almost 71. 😉
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Using the same logic they should raise the consesion age to 66
Why?
I’m actually 67 so it doesn’t affect me but there are a lot of people who have to work longer due to pension ages changing. Why punish them more..
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The days of old age concessions are surely numbered. Partly cos someone will realise it’s age discrimination and ban it and partly because those retiring at the moment are the first generation who will retire richer then their children will be when they retire. They’ve gained the most from the house price rise of the last 40 years and many more of them have DB pensions. The ‘poor old pensioners can’t afford it’ logic simply isn’t true anymore as a sweeping justification for age related discounts. It makes more sense to give millennials a discount because those trying to get on the housing ladder have bigger financial issues. This is a generalisation obviously hiding massive differences within each age group but we don’t mean test the ticket price, it’s based on a generational average.
I’m 48 so doesn’t affect me either way for some time.
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I don't have a vessel in which to urinate at 73. Yes, I am a "poor old pensioner".
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I'm glad you admitted that you have made generalisations.
I'm certainly not loaded and the vast majority of working class retirees aren't either. Well not the ones I know anyway.
I certainly couldn't afford to go to ML without the concessions and I suspect I'm not alone.
I agree that many of us are property - rich and cash poor but even I draw the line at moving house to free up some cash.
My assets will be going to my grandkids so they get a start in life (but, hopefully, not for a good few years yet) 😉
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The days of old age concessions are surely numbered. Partly cos someone will realise it’s age discrimination and ban it and partly because those retiring at the moment are the first generation who will retire richer then their children will be when they retire. They’ve gained the most from the house price rise of the last 40 years and many more of them have DB pensions. The ‘poor old pensioners can’t afford it’ logic simply isn’t true anymore as a sweeping justification for age related discounts. It makes more sense to give millennials a discount because those trying to get on the housing ladder have bigger financial issues. This is a generalisation obviously hiding massive differences within each age group but we don’t mean test the ticket price, it’s based on a generational average.
I’m 48 so doesn’t affect me either way for some time.
If you do away with old age concessions then you do away with all concessions, a lot of so called millennials today benefit from an inheritance anyway from either their grandparents and or parents.
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My point was that the retirement age has been put up from 65 to 66 and soon to be 67. Therefore most 65 year olds will either still be in work or retired through their own choice. Either way, they're not in the same situation as seventeen and eighteen year olds.
I'm 63. Pre Covid I got in a few grounds on a concession ticket. Halesowen was one and I think also Southport and York started concessions at 60.
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I am 59, however, I have been forced to retire early due to ill health. I was diagnosed with Parkinson's about 10 years ago and carried on working for as long as I could. Although I consider my pension to be generous, under the circumstances, it is still considerably less than I would have received had I been able to complete 40 years service. Thus, I am relatively poorly off compared to many others who are catergorised as pensioners but I do not qualify for the concessionary rate due to my tender age. Would it not be fair to consider extending the concessionary rate to include disabled supporters?
Whist I am sounding off, I also feel that something needs to be done (I have no idea what) about the lack of legroom in 99% of the seating in the main stand. As well as being painfully stiff in my legs, I am 6' 2'' tall and find it almost impossible to obtain a position in which to be comfortable. I did initially manage to find a spot with a bit more legroom when I attended the final game of the season against Torquay but was moved on by Bill who told me that the seats myself and my 12 year old daughter had sat in were reserved for someone else. We moved and I spent the game in some discomfort and now that I am not really fit enough to stand on the terraces anymore I have to decide whether or not I can continue to attend games.
The Family Stand offers some hope. I have found that there is ample legroom there but, alas, whenever we play teams like Stockport and Chester, for example, the stand is given over to their supporters.
I would be interested to hear other peoples opinions and ideas and I am sorry to be a miserable old git.
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I have that problem in the main stand. The best row is the one behind the directors boxes, but people keep using it as a walk-through. I suspect you may have been moved from there.
I still stand up even with a hip problem, but how much longer for, I do not know. Fortunately, I am registered on the waiting list now for a hip replacement operation, I'm 63 so sympathise with you. I will stand while I can but there is going to be a time when I will need to sit as I get older, and I'm just over 6ft. With my hip problem, I do find it painful moving, after standing in the same spot for a while. The barriers are incredibly helpful though.
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Using the same logic they should raise the consesion age to 66
I thought logically they should reduce the age.
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This thread seems to have covered a fair few topics, but the original point of extending concessions for more young people is a great idea, and well deserved for younger people who have suffered more than older groups during the pandemic with a loss of employment and opportunities.
I am 6' 2"" and I do sympathise with anyone of that height who needs a seat in the main stand. For Youth Cup games and the like, I would try to get an aisle seat, but that will be harder at a well-attended match. Fortunately for me, my legs are good, and it's more comfortable to stand.
I am more worried about older people who don't have access to the internet, rather than the concessionary price. I know there was a contact form sent out with the email for season tickets for people who would have trouble booking online, but that was sent as an email! I hope there is an effort to contact supporters who don't have an email address. Anecdotally, and I am sure I don't have all the facts, I did speak to a long-standing older supporter tonight who had gone down to the club offices, and was told that they could only get tickets online, and there was no alternative.
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I have that problem in the main stand. The best row is the one behind the directors boxes, but people keep using it as a walk-through.
Thats because it is a walkthrough - the only way to get from 1 side to the other !
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I find the very front row to have slightly more legroom than most of the seats.
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Using the same logic they should raise the consesion age to 66
I thought logically they should reduce the age.
How do you arrive at that conclusion? I'm thinking later retirement age therefore more spare cash
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Using the same logic they should raise the consesion age to 66
I thought logically they should reduce the age.
How do you arrive at that conclusion? I'm thinking later retirement age therefore more spare cash
Not easy to get a job if you're over 50 these days!
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Using the same logic they should raise the consesion age to 66
I thought logically they should reduce the age.
How do you arrive at that conclusion? I'm thinking later retirement age therefore more spare cash
second thoughts I think your logics right. I was thinking raising the 16 to 18 costs the club some income and saves the supporters some cash. The same would be true dropping the 65 to say 63. Some of the 18 year olds won’t be retirement age until we’ll into their seventies when the time comes.
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Surely you aren't suggesting age discrimination is going on JD? I'm 63 and used to do vocational training. Somehow it isn't the same on zoom so I binned it, Consequently I'm living off my savings.
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Surely you aren't suggesting age discrimination is going on JD? I'm 63 and used to do vocational training. Somehow it isn't the same on zoom so I binned it, Consequently I'm living off my savings.
Gosh! Certainly not!
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Using the same logic they should raise the consesion age to 66
I thought logically they should reduce the age.
How do you arrive at that conclusion? I'm thinking later retirement age therefore more spare cash
second thoughts I think your logics right. I was thinking raising the 16 to 18 costs the club some income and saves the supporters some cash. The same would be true dropping the 65 to say 63. Some of the 18 year olds won’t be retirement age until we’ll into their seventies when the time comes.
Retirement will be a thing of the past for many.
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Using the same logic they should raise the consesion age to 66
I thought logically they should reduce the age.
How do you arrive at that conclusion? I'm thinking later retirement age therefore more spare cash
second thoughts I think your logics right. I was thinking raising the 16 to 18 costs the club some income and saves the supporters some cash. The same would be true dropping the 65 to say 63. Some of the 18 year olds won’t be retirement age until we’ll into their seventies when the time comes.
Retirement will be a thing of the past for many.
I was 70 when I finally got to retire, but then I worked part-time for 18 months after a short break. I've only fully become a retiree at 73.
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The days of old age concessions are surely numbered. Partly cos someone will realise it’s age discrimination and ban it and partly because those retiring at the moment are the first generation who will retire richer then their children will be when they retire. They’ve gained the most from the house price rise of the last 40 years and many more of them have DB pensions. The ‘poor old pensioners can’t afford it’ logic simply isn’t true anymore as a sweeping justification for age related discounts. It makes more sense to give millennials a discount because those trying to get on the housing ladder have bigger financial issues. This is a generalisation obviously hiding massive differences within each age group but we don’t mean test the ticket price, it’s based on a generational average.
I’m 48 so doesn’t affect me either way for some time.
If you do away with old age concessions then you do away with all concessions, a lot of so called millennials today benefit from an inheritance anyway from either their grandparents and or parents.
Do we? My partner and I have 1 surviving grandparent and yet to receive a penny in inheritance.
Given that older people are living loner, the majority of inheritance (if any) go on care home fees or just topping up pensions.
I can't think of a single benefit millenials enjoy over previous generations (Inflation, high home prices as a percentage of wages).
I'm lucky enough to have been able to scrape together a deposit and find someone to buy with, and buy at the right time. My brother opted to move 45 minutes away to buy.
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i am 68 970) next year and i do use these old age consessions
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i am 68 970) next year and i do use these old age consessions
i am 68 970) next year and i do use these old age consessions
That's a grand age!
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i am 68 970) next year and i do use these old age consessions
i am 68 970) next year and i do use these old age consessions
That's a grand age!
Never mind concessions, Harold deserves a free pass for reaching that age! 🤗🎂
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i am 68 970) next year and i do use these old age consessions
i am 68 970) next year and i do use these old age consessions
That's a grand age!
Never mind concessions, Harold deserves a free pass for reaching that age! 🤗🎂
Fecking HUGE birthday cake.
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i am 68 970) next year and i do use these old age consessions
i am 68 970) next year and i do use these old age consessions
That's a grand age!
Never mind concessions, Harold deserves a free pass for reaching that age! 🤗🎂
Fecking HUGE birthday cake.
Think of all the candles!
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i am 68 970) next year and i do use these old age consessions
i am 68 970) next year and i do use these old age consessions
That's a grand age!
Never mind concessions, Harold deserves a free pass for reaching that age! 🤗🎂
Fecking HUGE birthday cake.
Think of all the candles!
sorted the floodlights for the redevelopment.