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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: oneedham on April 24, 2021, 05:03:16 PM
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Forgetting contracts for 5 min, who would you keep to start, squad and release. Need a massive clear out.
Starters :-
Hannigan
Senior
Colclough
Kosylo
Smith
Hancock or Hardy
Squad :-
Zouma ( if we can )
Mooney
Hampson
Williams
Malarkey
Thompson
Densmore or Richman
Piggott
Moult
Release :-
Ceesay ( for his wage )
Peers
Sutton
Fis
White
Miller
And all other strikers we have who are older than 20 years old.
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Yep, agree with the 7 starters + Toby (though I don't know what the situation is with Hanks and our new status) and would love to keep Zouma and Hampson from the rest. For whatever reason, Thommo has reverted to type (which is a huge pity after the season he's had).
Mooney/Sutton are either fit, or they ain't - the jury's out. I'm miffed with Jake after today, really miffed, but I'd like him to stay too. I also don't know what is planned with Dens and Ringo. They are not featuring and as a consequence, there must be doubts about next season.
As for the rest...
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Prob need long term replacements for Hannigan , Moult and Hancock ? Question marks over a few on recent showings. Arent most of them on two year deals making it difficult to release ?
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Think we have a BIG summer ahead... squad needs overhaul as need several new faces plus need to ship out quite a few...
Main priority is obviously a decent striker, but after today a top goalkeeper maybe needed too (though TT could stay as back up)... also need to find better team line-up/ formation...
From present squad (discounting contracts)...
Starters...
Senior
Hannigan
Hampson
Smith
Kosylo
Hancock
Colclough
Squad...
TT
Richman
Mullarkey
Zouma - if can keep
Ogle - if can keep
Moult
Hardy
Mooney - if can stay fit
Piggott
Release...
Gould - though if give him a chance could be no.1
Dens - sadly
Sutton
White
Williams
Ceesay
Adarbioyo
Peers
Miller
Salmon
I'm sure Parky & Sorvs know what we need... hopefully they will get the required players in the summer... fingers crossed... keep the faith... in Parky we trust... COYR!
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Further to my above post... think defo need 1or2 decent strikers, a top top keeper, a good centre back, a holding midfielder to partner Smith (Moult as back up)... anthing else is a bonus... plus need to ship out several...
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Everyone keeps talking about what a season TT has had and there has been a few games when he was brilliant but he still has a load of mistakes in him.
I don't see these mistakes in most of our opposition.
Also Jake is looking his age, been quality for us but we need to be looking for a player like him but who can cover more ground. It is needed, Smith can't do it all himself.
I personally don't believe we need a big lump up top, just someone to get on the end of things, like their 3rd goal today.
I would defo be pushing for Leather for CB and a new LB.
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I'd keep Curtis Miller depending on his wage. I like him as a footballer, but he isn't ready for National starts, if we were still in CN he'd be getting game time
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Everyone keeps talking about what a season TT has had and there has been a few games when he was brilliant but he still has a load of mistakes in him.
I don't see these mistakes in most of our opposition.
Also Jake is looking his age, been quality for us but we need to be looking for a player like him but who can cover more ground. It is needed, Smith can't do it all himself.
I personally don't believe we need a big lump up top, just someone to get on the end of things, like their 3rd goal today.
I would defo be pushing for Leather for CB and a new LB.
I'd rather have Sass-Davies back.
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I also thought that Sass-Davies might be a good shout, but Zouma was pretty impressive in the games he played for us.
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Leather signed a new deal at Chorley last week: https://www.chorleyfc.com/2021/04/19/a-sixth-season-awaits-scott-leather/
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Maybe a few after more ideas who might be around next season after today
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Yep, the number needing shipping out in the summer seems to be climbing... today was not good and showed some back up players aint good enough...
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Yep, the number needing shipping out in the summer seems to be climbing... today was not good and showed some back up players aint good enough...
Could be a fair few condidates ? Unless they have clauses in their contracts to say they can go if the club want you them to then there could be a few players sitting in the stand next season but in the playing squad ?
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Think on the ship out list are approx 10...
Gould
Dens - sadly
Sutton
White
Williams
Ceesay
Adarbioyo
Peers
Bell (loan)
Plus one of Miller or Salmon
Plus maybe Piggott if get in couple of strikers in summer.
NB think we need a top striker (plus maybe a 2nd forward), a good centre back, plus a holding midfielder to partner Smith... plus maybe a top keeper & have TT as a back up...
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Think on the ship out list are approx 10...
Gould
Dens - sadly
Sutton
White
Williams
Ceesay
Adarbioyo
Peers
Bell (loan)
Plus one of Miller or Salmon
Plus maybe Piggott if get in couple of strikers in summer.
NB think we need a top striker (plus maybe a 2nd forward), a good centre back, plus a holding midfielder to partner Smith... plus maybe a top keeper & have TT as a back up...
Also a left back either as cover or as first choice ?
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Think Hampson ok & may look to keep Ogle on...
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Hampson has been decent when played
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Yep, Hampson my 1st choice LB... along with Senior, Smith, & Colclough i think he's had a great season...
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Regrettably a fair number of those ship outs are on 2-year contracts - Piggott's in particular is looking like the worst piece of business we've ever done.
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Yep, Hampson my 1st choice LB... along with Senior, Smith, & Colclough i think he's had a great season...
Id add Hannigan to the list
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Maybe we gave Pigott that contract on the basis that he might score a goal towards the end of 18 months. If we have to pay up the contract we should do that.
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Think on the ship out list are approx 10...
Gould
Dens - sadly
Sutton
White
Williams
Ceesay
Adarbioyo
Peers
Bell (loan)
Plus one of Miller or Salmon
Plus maybe Piggott if get in couple of strikers in summer.
NB think we need a top striker (plus maybe a 2nd forward), a good centre back, plus a holding midfielder to partner Smith... plus maybe a top keeper & have TT as a back up...
This is a sensible list.
Whilst some might be tempted to go further than this, a quick reminder that whilst we were never realistically promotion candidates, we're not suddenly the worst team in the world either. Funny thing, "form". Some on this forum don't understand it.
Hopefully Parky viewed the positive from yesterday as affirming some decisions he had in his mind.
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Think on the ship out list are approx 10...
Gould
Dens - sadly
Sutton
White
Williams
Ceesay
Adarbioyo
Peers
Bell (loan)
Plus one of Miller or Salmon
Plus maybe Piggott if get in couple of strikers in summer.
NB think we need a top striker (plus maybe a 2nd forward), a good centre back, plus a holding midfielder to partner Smith... plus maybe a top keeper & have TT as a back up...
This is a sensible list.
Whilst some might be tempted to go further than this, a quick reminder that whilst we were never realistically promotion candidates, we're not suddenly the worst team in the world either. Funny thing, "form". Some on this forum don't understand it.
Hopefully Parky viewed the positive from yesterday as affirming some decisions he had in his mind.
3 wins in 17 is a major decline.
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Think on the ship out list are approx 10...
Gould
Dens - sadly
Sutton
White
Williams
Ceesay
Adarbioyo
Peers
Bell (loan)
Plus one of Miller or Salmon
Plus maybe Piggott if get in couple of strikers in summer.
NB think we need a top striker (plus maybe a 2nd forward), a good centre back, plus a holding midfielder to partner Smith... plus maybe a top keeper & have TT as a back up...
This is a sensible list.
Whilst some might be tempted to go further than this, a quick reminder that whilst we were never realistically promotion candidates, we're not suddenly the worst team in the world either. Funny thing, "form". Some on this forum don't understand it.
Hopefully Parky viewed the positive from yesterday as affirming some decisions he had in his mind.
3 wins in 17 is a major decline.
...so the answer is to sweep the decks and start again? Give me strength.
It surely hasn't gone unnoticed that the lack of a settled team has been a major contributor?
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Think on the ship out list are approx 10...
Gould
Dens - sadly
Sutton
White
Williams
Ceesay
Adarbioyo
Peers
Bell (loan)
Plus one of Miller or Salmon
Plus maybe Piggott if get in couple of strikers in summer.
NB think we need a top striker (plus maybe a 2nd forward), a good centre back, plus a holding midfielder to partner Smith... plus maybe a top keeper & have TT as a back up...
This is a sensible list.
Whilst some might be tempted to go further than this, a quick reminder that whilst we were never realistically promotion candidates, we're not suddenly the worst team in the world either. Funny thing, "form". Some on this forum don't understand it.
Hopefully Parky viewed the positive from yesterday as affirming some decisions he had in his mind.
3 wins in 17 is a major decline.
...so the answer is to sweep the decks and start again? Give me strength.
It surely hasn't gone unnoticed that the lack of a settled team has been a major contributor?
Surely we need to evolve, rather than a cull. A cull would be very dangerous. I'm sure Parky is looking how to evolve us, he's learning a lot I would hope with the players he's rotating. Some haven't played for months so will need time to get to speed again. I'm sure Parky will take that into account.
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Think on the ship out list are approx 10...
Gould
Dens - sadly
Sutton
White
Williams
Ceesay
Adarbioyo
Peers
Bell (loan)
Plus one of Miller or Salmon
Plus maybe Piggott if get in couple of strikers in summer.
NB think we need a top striker (plus maybe a 2nd forward), a good centre back, plus a holding midfielder to partner Smith... plus maybe a top keeper & have TT as a back up...
This is a sensible list.
Whilst some might be tempted to go further than this, a quick reminder that whilst we were never realistically promotion candidates, we're not suddenly the worst team in the world either. Funny thing, "form". Some on this forum don't understand it.
Hopefully Parky viewed the positive from yesterday as affirming some decisions he had in his mind.
3 wins in 17 is a major decline.
If you translated 3 wins in 17 to the start of a season the league table wouldn’t make comfortable reading. Unless we’d drawn the other 14.
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...so the answer is to sweep the decks and start again? Give me strength.
It surely hasn't gone unnoticed that the lack of a settled team has been a major contributor?
The rot set in when we started to get injuries. In a few cases players were deliberately taken out by the opposition. Willo was one but there were others.Bringing in loanees comes with its own risks.
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Unpresidented levels of injuries at regular intervals have not helped this season, nor the amount of loanees as a result... only few loanees ok...
Bulging squad, with several needing shipping out in the summer plus 3-5 new faces required ie defo 1 decent striker (probably two), a good centreback, a good holding midfielder to challenge Moult & potentially partner Smith, plus if can get a top top keeper that would be a bonus (keep TT as a back up)...
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Unpresidented levels of injuries at regular intervals have not helped this season, nor the amount of loanees as a result... only few loanees ok...
Bulging squad, with several needing shipping out in the summer plus 3-5 new faces required ie defo 1 decent striker (probably two), a good centreback, a good holding midfielder to challenge Moult & potentially partner Smith, plus if can get a top top keeper that would be a bonus (keep TT as a back up)...
^^^^ This!
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Think on the ship out list are approx 10...
Gould
Dens - sadly
Sutton
White
Williams
Ceesay
Adarbioyo
Peers
Bell (loan)
Plus one of Miller or Salmon
Plus maybe Piggott if get in couple of strikers in summer.
NB think we need a top striker (plus maybe a 2nd forward), a good centre back, plus a holding midfielder to partner Smith... plus maybe a top keeper & have TT as a back up...
This is a sensible list.
Whilst some might be tempted to go further than this, a quick reminder that whilst we were never realistically promotion candidates, we're not suddenly the worst team in the world either. Funny thing, "form". Some on this forum don't understand it.
Hopefully Parky viewed the positive from yesterday as affirming some decisions he had in his mind.
3 wins in 17 is a major decline.
If you translated 3 wins in 17 to the start of a season the league table wouldn’t make comfortable reading. Unless we’d drawn the other 14.
What if you translated our winning run in there instead? What's your point?
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His point is it's all turned to dust and luckily we already have the points in the bag.
If it continues next year it will be Parky out but I'm sure he knows that
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I think this summer will be an interesting transfer window. There surely must be a fair few players that would feel like it’s probably worth going part time at the moment, especially considering we don’t know how many professional teams will end up going pop in a year because of all this. Obviously all businesses have suffered, but players may realise it’s best to be paid a fair whack but also have another income to fall back on.
Weirdly, and luckily, I feel like Alty could benefit from that. Clubs working within what they can genuinely afford are surely going to be more attractive as a result of all this.
It’s pretty grim watching the team get battered at the tail end of the season, but we all knew this would be a season with an asterisk next to it. As long as the changes are made correctly, I’m not worried.
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Think on the ship out list are approx 10...
Gould
Dens - sadly
Sutton
White
Williams
Ceesay
Adarbioyo
Peers
Bell (loan)
Plus one of Miller or Salmon
Plus maybe Piggott if get in couple of strikers in summer.
NB think we need a top striker (plus maybe a 2nd forward), a good centre back, plus a holding midfielder to partner Smith... plus maybe a top keeper & have TT as a back up...
This is a sensible list.
Whilst some might be tempted to go further than this, a quick reminder that whilst we were never realistically promotion candidates, we're not suddenly the worst team in the world either. Funny thing, "form". Some on this forum don't understand it.
Hopefully Parky viewed the positive from yesterday as affirming some decisions he had in his mind.
3 wins in 17 is a major decline.
If you translated 3 wins in 17 to the start of a season the league table wouldn’t make comfortable reading. Unless we’d drawn the other 14.
What if you translated our winning run in there instead? What's your point?
Form is short, usually measured on recent games (5/6 or 8) we're passed bad form. Something in fundamentally wrong in the group.
Just like something clicked when we were on playable
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Teams like Chesterfield, Hartlepool, Wrexham and Stockport have been stockpiling players in recent months. Most of those clubs will be shedding players pretty soon - we will most likely benefit from that.
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We had a golden opportunity to raid the top tier North talent and use the lack of relegation to see if they could make the grade.
And we brought 1 player in.
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We had a golden opportunity to raid the top tier North talent and use the lack of relegation to see if they could make the grade.
And we brought 1 player in.
It's not as simple as that - as for the form thing, I'm not reading as much doom into it as the lads expended a lot of effort hauling us up into the playoffs at one point, and I'm sure there was an element of switching off when relegation was cancelled.
Happy to be proven wrong if the rot still exists at the start of next season, but people were doing the same thing after the Fylde game and quite frankly looked like fools a matter of weeks subsequent.
In Parky I (still) trust.
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There will be plenty of players looking for a gig next season. We should already have marked up a few leading suspects, but we absolutely have to be wary of offering contracts to players being rendered surplus by other National League clubs (eg Nyal Bell), and players who look good against us in friendlies (eg Fisaro Adarabioyo).
We want any players who are at our level or lower to fit in with the squad in those friendlies, and be prepared to play non-contract until they've proved themselves to be National League standard.
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We had a golden opportunity to raid the top tier North talent and use the lack of relegation to see if they could make the grade.
And we brought 1 player in.
It's not as simple as that - as for the form thing, I'm not reading as much doom into it as the lads expended a lot of effort hauling us up into the playoffs at one point, and I'm sure there was an element of switching off when relegation was cancelled.
Happy to be proven wrong if the rot still exists at the start of next season, but people were doing the same thing after the Fylde game and quite frankly looked like fools a matter of weeks subsequent.
In Parky I (still) trust.
It is as simple as that; we won't have a better time to take the best part-time players than the season-ending for them.
Getting them here no doubt is the difficult part as it became a frenzie for all higher clubs to steal the best talent.
As for the Fylde comment, our next 5 league matches: W1 D1 L3, we hardly became Brazil. Those fans complaining knew we needed a striker (we got one in Fis leading to 4 points in the next 2 games) and a CM capable of stitching it together
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We have a big summer ahead on the road to hybrid then ultimately full time structure in next couple of years...
This summer will be a BIG one as need to freshen up the squad (including finding that 20plus goal scorer everyone has mentioned before) plus shifting out several players who aint really up to this level of footy...
2nd season in a new league is usually harder than the 1st as other teams have sussed you out more... lets hope Parky finds the right blend of players...
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Think on the ship out list are approx 10...
Gould
Dens - sadly
Sutton
White
Williams
Ceesay
Adarbioyo
Peers
Bell (loan)
Plus one of Miller or Salmon
Plus maybe Piggott if get in couple of strikers in summer.
NB think we need a top striker (plus maybe a 2nd forward), a good centre back, plus a holding midfielder to partner Smith... plus maybe a top keeper & have TT as a back up...
This is a sensible list.
Whilst some might be tempted to go further than this, a quick reminder that whilst we were never realistically promotion candidates, we're not suddenly the worst team in the world either. Funny thing, "form". Some on this forum don't understand it.
Hopefully Parky viewed the positive from yesterday as affirming some decisions he had in his mind.
3 wins in 17 is a major decline.
If you translated 3 wins in 17 to the start of a season the league table wouldn’t make comfortable reading. Unless we’d drawn the other 14.
What if you translated our winning run in there instead? What's your point?
The point is we’ve had a bad run. No hidden agenda. Nothing dark and mysterious. Is that point ok or not?