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Title: Hulme
Post by: RobskiRobin on April 16, 2021, 09:54:22 AM
I’ve been told this morning that Jordan Hulme is leaving Fylde due to disciplinary issues and is heading back here as PP first full time signing
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Alty Dave on April 16, 2021, 09:57:52 AM
I’ve been told this morning that Jordan Hulme is leaving Fylde due to disciplinary issues and is heading back here as PP first full time signing
::) ::)
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 16, 2021, 10:07:09 AM
I’ve been told this morning that Jordan Hulme is leaving Fylde due to disciplinary issues and is heading back here as PP first full time signing
I'd be interested to know how true this is.
Also, I wonder what the disciplinary issues mentioned are given that they're all on furlough over there?
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Hale Alty on April 16, 2021, 10:59:14 AM
I’ve been told this morning that Jordan Hulme is leaving Fylde due to disciplinary issues and is heading back here as PP first full time signing
I'd be interested to know how true this is.
Also, I wonder what the disciplinary issues mentioned are given that they're all on furlough over there?

Maybe he kept turning up for work?
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Freddie on April 16, 2021, 11:18:29 AM
I’ve been told this morning that Jordan Hulme is leaving Fylde due to disciplinary issues and is heading back here as PP first full time signing
I'd be interested to know how true this is.
Also, I wonder what the disciplinary issues mentioned are given that they're all on furlough over there?

Are they furloughed now? I know they were still in training until recently.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: HashtagAlty on April 16, 2021, 11:31:33 AM
Step backwards.

Shows that players can leave whenever and just come back if it doesn't work out.

I'd have Durell back, but the way Hulme left, spend the first weekend mocking Peers, doesn't sit right.

Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Alty Bri on April 16, 2021, 12:06:54 PM
Would have him back in less than a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: robininstockport on April 16, 2021, 12:22:17 PM
Certainly wouldn't surprise if he's been binned off from fylde. He's been under the radar on social media and absent from his podcast with Seddon.

As for having him back, football wise probably a good move, but not for me. Left us right in the sh*t when he went.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 16, 2021, 12:22:55 PM
I would have loved it if he hadn't left but since he has done, I think I'm leaning towards hashtags opinion.
If we needed someone for Durrells position, I'd welcome him back but we don't.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: distancetraveller on April 16, 2021, 12:39:36 PM
I wouldn’t mind seeing Jordon back here. There are not many better in this league who can hold a ball up and bring in players the likes of Hancock and Co better than JH.

People who keep posting about the lack of a decent striker would arguably be well satisfied.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Toff Apple on April 16, 2021, 12:44:25 PM
I’ve been told this morning that Jordan Hulme is leaving Fylde due to disciplinary issues and is heading back here as PP first full time signing
If true, I'll have a drink for him
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Freddie on April 16, 2021, 12:55:41 PM
I've made comments to the contrary in the past, but to play devil's advocate towards those commenting on "the way he left" none of us still really know the details.

None of us wanted him to go, how much was his choice and how much came from the club? We can all agree that whatever fee we got must have been substantial enough to warrant our board making such a decision.

I am not sure if I would have him back either, but if anyone can get the best out of him it is PP and NS.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 16, 2021, 01:36:06 PM
No issues with the way he left, but I'd rather find a longer term solution in the Summer.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Timperley The Best on April 16, 2021, 01:43:58 PM
No issues with the way he left, but I'd rather find a longer term solution in the Summer.


Would possibly mean paying a large transfer fee.Id rather Hulme than another conf north striker
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: HashtagAlty on April 16, 2021, 01:59:35 PM
I've made comments to the contrary in the past, but to play devil's advocate towards those commenting on "the way he left" none of us still really know the details.

None of us wanted him to go, how much was his choice and how much came from the club? We can all agree that whatever fee we got must have been substantial enough to warrant our board making such a decision.

I am not sure if I would have him back either, but if anyone can get the best out of him it is PP and NS.

I'd made my peace with him leaving, but he spends the first days mocking our new strike-force of Tom Peers.

He'd spent the first few months at altrincham taking about playing at NL level.

I'd have had no issue with him going to Wrexham, Notts County or even Fylde if they'd remained at this level with us.

Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: rorysgrandad on April 16, 2021, 02:00:00 PM
I’d give him a piggy back from fylde.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Leon on April 16, 2021, 02:00:12 PM
No issues with the way he left, but I'd rather find a longer term solution in the Summer.


Would possibly mean paying a large transfer fee.Id rather Hulme than another conf north striker

Not necessarily. Hulme signed a one-year deal at Fylde, with the club having an option of extending it by a year. So if Fylde have already decided not to keep him for next season, he's now effectively a free agent (although I assume Fylde would want some sort of fee for letting him leave before June).

I kind of hope it doesn't happen but it would be churlish to complain if we did re-sign him given how much we've all been complaining about the failure to replace him.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Leon on April 16, 2021, 02:10:41 PM
I've made comments to the contrary in the past, but to play devil's advocate towards those commenting on "the way he left" none of us still really know the details.

None of us wanted him to go, how much was his choice and how much came from the club? We can all agree that whatever fee we got must have been substantial enough to warrant our board making such a decision.

I am not sure if I would have him back either, but if anyone can get the best out of him it is PP and NS.

I'd made my peace with him leaving, but he spends the first days mocking our new strike-force of Tom Peers.

He'd spent the first few months at altrincham taking about playing at NL level.

I'd have had no issue with him going to Wrexham, Notts County or even Fylde if they'd remained at this level with us.

Is that actually true? As I recall, he tweeted in his farewell message to Alty fans something along the lines of "I leave you in the capable hands of Tom Peers". Your interpretation of that is him taking the mickey out of TP (on the assumption that Hulme must share your low opinion of Peers). I think it's more likely he was giving him his genuine (if misjudged) backing to take his place. Did he say anything more beyond that?
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Timperley The Best on April 16, 2021, 02:14:10 PM
No issues with the way he left, but I'd rather find a longer term solution in the Summer.


Would possibly mean paying a large transfer fee.Id rather Hulme than another conf north striker

Not necessarily. Hulme signed a one-year deal at Fylde, with the club having an option of extending it by a year. So if Fylde have already decided not to keep him for next season, he's now effectively a free agent (although I assume Fylde would want some sort of fee for letting him leave before June).

I kind of hope it doesn't happen but it would be churlish to complain if we did re-sign him given how much we've all been complaining about the failure to replace him.


I didnt make it clear, I meant paying a transfer fee for another player not Hulme .
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Steve from Sale on April 16, 2021, 03:46:48 PM
If this is the case, why is there nothing on the AFC Fylde website? According to their first team squad details, he is still listed as a squad member.

Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: RobskiRobin on April 16, 2021, 06:47:32 PM
As an added bit of the story, he’s apparently been given a long ban by the FA hence why Fylde aren’t keeping him. What for, I dont know!
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Timperley The Best on April 16, 2021, 06:59:33 PM
As an added bit of the story, he’s apparently been given a long ban by the FA hence why Fylde aren’t keeping him. What for, I dont know!


Is this non league footy rumours on twitter making a comeback ?
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: b23 on April 16, 2021, 07:11:45 PM
It's on the FA website...something to do with his social media I think
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 16, 2021, 07:16:04 PM

FA disciplinary charges, responses and suspensions for March 2021


INCIDENT OF MISCONDUCT

Jordan Hulme, Player, AFC Fylde


Breach of FA Rule E3 - It is alleged that a comment posted on the Participant’s social media page was insulting and/or abusive and/or improper and/or brought the game into disrepute, contrary to Rule E3.1. It is further alleged that this breach of Rule E3.1 is an “Aggravated Breach” as defined in Rule E3.2, as it includes reference (express or implied) to nationality and/or race and/or ethnicity. 

Charge admitted – Personal Hearing requested.

Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: robininstockport on April 16, 2021, 07:25:41 PM
Cost me a tenner that Cult. Backed the  'charlie' charge
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Freddie on April 16, 2021, 08:12:13 PM
I've made comments to the contrary in the past, but to play devil's advocate towards those commenting on "the way he left" none of us still really know the details.

None of us wanted him to go, how much was his choice and how much came from the club? We can all agree that whatever fee we got must have been substantial enough to warrant our board making such a decision.

I am not sure if I would have him back either, but if anyone can get the best out of him it is PP and NS.

I'd made my peace with him leaving, but he spends the first days mocking our new strike-force of Tom Peers.

He'd spent the first few months at altrincham taking about playing at NL level.

I'd have had no issue with him going to Wrexham, Notts County or even Fylde if they'd remained at this level with us.

Definitely fair, I know that Peers and him are good pals but perhaps keep the banter less public.

I always thought the same to be honest, thought he would be keen to play at this level as he never got the chance to prove himself with Salford.

On another note, some fantastic detective work on this thread... the return I can maybe believe, but if we were handing out full time contracts would we not offer them to existing players first?
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 16, 2021, 08:34:00 PM
I'd like to know who told robski the info. Unless it's JH or one of his mates?
We're building castles in the air here and it could even be trolling.
Still, it's made for a very entertaining thread! 😉
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: RobskiRobin on April 16, 2021, 09:02:38 PM
I'd like to know who told robski the info. Unless it's JH or one of his mates?
We're building castles in the air here and it could even be trolling.
Still, it's made for a very entertaining thread! 😉

No trolling here, I’m just giving you guys the info I received, and in fairness I was told about the ban without knowing it was on the FA website so he’s got half of the info correct so far
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 16, 2021, 09:23:11 PM
I'd like to know who told robski the info. Unless it's JH or one of his mates?
We're building castles in the air here and it could even be trolling.
Still, it's made for a very entertaining thread! 😉

No trolling here, I’m just giving you guys the info I received, and in fairness I was told about the ban without knowing it was on the FA website so he’s got half of the info correct so far

Fair do's then Robski and thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: RobskiRobin on April 16, 2021, 09:24:16 PM
I'd like to know who told robski the info. Unless it's JH or one of his mates?
We're building castles in the air here and it could even be trolling.
Still, it's made for a very entertaining thread! 😉

No trolling here, I’m just giving you guys the info I received, and in fairness I was told about the ban without knowing it was on the FA website so he’s got half of the info correct so far

Fair do's then Robski and thanks for the info!

Let’s hope it’s true anyway  ;D
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: AFC56 on April 16, 2021, 09:33:47 PM
He’s the best striker we’ve had at Alty since Colin Little and is made for the way Parky plays. I’d take him back in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Seth on April 16, 2021, 10:29:36 PM
He’s the best striker we’ve had at Alty since Colin Little and is made for the way Parky plays. I’d take him back in a heartbeat.

errr... Damian Reeves?
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: AFC56 on April 16, 2021, 10:38:54 PM
He’s the best striker we’ve had at Alty since Colin Little and is made for the way Parky plays. I’d take him back in a heartbeat.

errr... Damian Reeves?

I'll be in the minority with this but I wasn't a massive fan of Reeves. Scored loads of goals but his overall contribution wasn't the best. We've effectively replaced John Johnson and Elliott Durrell but replacing Hulme has been been much harder, which is testament to what a good player he is and how difficult playing at the tip of Parky's system is.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Freddie on April 16, 2021, 11:01:32 PM
Little, Hulme, Reeves... all class but I'd put them in that order.

I guess you could argue that Hulme had better players around him than the other two.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: RolfGoad on April 17, 2021, 04:17:35 AM
Doesn’t some of this also depend on the nature of what caused his ban?

The club has built a foundation on being progressive so if it’s something that jeopardises that is it really worth it in the long term? (I say that with absolutely zero clue what’s actually been said, but I assume it must be pretty grim)
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Hugh on April 17, 2021, 05:45:30 AM
I would have loved it if he hadn't left but since he has done, I think I'm leaning towards hashtags opinion.
If we needed someone for Durrells position, I'd welcome him back but we don't.

Deary me. As I hinted at, Adam Rooney went to Salford City, scored 21 goals - how mch did they pat for him? (And he was in the first team for Aberdeen at the time). How much was paid for Marriot? As I said, it would be a tremendous achievement for the club to get a 15 goal a season striker. If he comes here and plays to his ability, and if we can afford it, it's a no-brainer.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Hugh on April 17, 2021, 05:50:27 AM
I've made comments to the contrary in the past, but to play devil's advocate towards those commenting on "the way he left" none of us still really know the details.

None of us wanted him to go, how much was his choice and how much came from the club? We can all agree that whatever fee we got must have been substantial enough to warrant our board making such a decision.

I am not sure if I would have him back either, but if anyone can get the best out of him it is PP and NS.

I'd made my peace with him leaving, but he spends the first days mocking our new strike-force of Tom Peers.

He'd spent the first few months at altrincham taking about playing at NL level.

I'd have had no issue with him going to Wrexham, Notts County or even Fylde if they'd remained at this level with us.

Is that actually true? As I recall, he tweeted in his farewell message to Alty fans something along the lines of "I leave you in the capable hands of Tom Peers". Your interpretation of that is him taking the mickey out of TP (on the assumption that Hulme must share your low opinion of Peers). I think it's more likely he was giving him his genuine (if misjudged) backing to take his place. Did he say anything more beyond that?

If you include his cup record this season, Peers is about one goal every three games (270 minutes). Short of doing a Salford City, what do you want?
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Hugh on April 17, 2021, 06:10:00 AM
Another thought, if Jordan Hulme had done something that bad, would PP have brought him back (allegedly) or the club allowed it, when you consider the sort of club we are? Let's wait until we know more.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: HashtagAlty on April 17, 2021, 08:52:39 AM
I would have loved it if he hadn't left but since he has done, I think I'm leaning towards hashtags opinion.
If we needed someone for Durrells position, I'd welcome him back but we don't.

Deary me. As I hinted at, Adam Rooney went to Salford City, scored 21 goals - how mch did they pat for him? (And he was in the first team for Aberdeen at the time). How much was paid for Marriot? As I said, it would be a tremendous achievement for the club to get a 15 goal a season striker. If he comes here and plays to his ability, and if we can afford it, it's a no-brainer.

15 goals a season is hardly impressive at this level.

Every season I've watched us since 2009 we've had a 15 goal striker at this level?

Parkinson showing that he cant go out and get a big game player - unless a bit broken - is a worry.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Alty Bri on April 17, 2021, 09:05:38 AM
I think only Michael Cheek has exceeded 15 league goals at our level this season. Granted, one of two others are likely to join him, but I'd say 15 goals wouldn't be a bad return in all fairness.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: HashtagAlty on April 17, 2021, 09:31:00 AM
I think only Michael Cheek has exceeded 15 league goals at our level this season. Granted, one of two others are likely to join him, but I'd say 15 goals wouldn't be a bad return in all fairness.

A strange season. Even last year with 10 games to go 8 clubs had someone with over 15 goals, 3 more had 14 or 15.

Having someone hit 15 goals is midtable form, unless you're scoring goals fom 2 strikers or round the gam
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: AltyRobin on April 17, 2021, 09:59:35 AM
A 15 goal a season man is exactly what we need. We also need to sure it up at the back and stop giving stupid goals away.

We’ve scored 37 in 34, top of the league currently have scored 10 more than us in one game extra, yielding 23 more points than us.

A 15 goal a season man is perfect.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 17, 2021, 10:01:09 AM
Hancock has 11 so far (with a few pens admittedly) but if we'd had a decent number nine, a fair proportion of all those chances missed by our rotating trial strikers might have been converted and we'd be in a much better place. Fine margins as PP said.
Another consideration is that Hulme is still unproven at National level. (braces for response!)
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Mick on April 17, 2021, 11:55:01 AM
Doesn’t some of this also depend on the nature of what caused his ban?

The club has built a foundation on being progressive so if it’s something that jeopardises that is it really worth it in the long term? (I say that with absolutely zero clue what’s actually been said, but I assume it must be pretty grim)
Yes and no. Things need to be looked at objectively. People do not automatically become unemployable because they have made grave mistakes. Not all our present squad are lillywhite and even Sir Colin Little for whom we shall be ever grateful had an episode he will regret whilst with us.
For me it is how it affects the club. Anyway as someone said - probably building castles in the air

Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: oneedham on April 17, 2021, 12:23:34 PM
100% have him back. Yes he left us in the muck but if we can pick him for free then happy bloody days.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Alty Bri on April 17, 2021, 12:41:37 PM
I can completely understand posters who would prefer to see a younger striker than Jordan, maybe one overlooked and released from a higher level academy (like Duncan Watmore).

However, these guys don't grow on trees and in my opinion would represent far more of a risk than Jordan.
Yes, there's no guarantee that he would get the goals we need, but given the relationship he has with Hanks, I'd also be very happy to see him back at Alty.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: JD on April 17, 2021, 03:20:28 PM
I would have loved it if he hadn't left but since he has done, I think I'm leaning towards hashtags opinion.
If we needed someone for Durrells position, I'd welcome him back but we don't.

Deary me. As I hinted at, Adam Rooney went to Salford City, scored 21 goals - how mch did they pat for him? (And he was in the first team for Aberdeen at the time). How much was paid for Marriot? As I said, it would be a tremendous achievement for the club to get a 15 goal a season striker. If he comes here and plays to his ability, and if we can afford it, it's a no-brainer.

15 goals a season is hardly impressive at this level.

Every season I've watched us since 2009 we've had a 15 goal striker at this level?

Parkinson showing that he cant go out and get a big game player - unless a bit broken - is a worry.

Cost! They are not cheap!
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Hugh on April 18, 2021, 01:56:31 AM
I would have loved it if he hadn't left but since he has done, I think I'm leaning towards hashtags opinion.
If we needed someone for Durrells position, I'd welcome him back but we don't.

Deary me. As I hinted at, Adam Rooney went to Salford City, scored 21 goals - how mch did they pat for him? (And he was in the first team for Aberdeen at the time). How much was paid for Marriot? As I said, it would be a tremendous achievement for the club to get a 15 goal a season striker. If he comes here and plays to his ability, and if we can afford it, it's a no-brainer.

15 goals a season is hardly impressive at this level.

Every season I've watched us since 2009 we've had a 15 goal striker at this level?

Parkinson showing that he cant go out and get a big game player - unless a bit broken - is a worry.

Not sure that's right? Of the top 12 NL scorers (17-18, total goals), 8 scored more than 15 goals plus Morgan Ferrier got 15. 2018-19, 9 players scored 15 or more NL goals.  No easy task for a club like us to get a 15  goal a season striker at this level. Hopefully it will become slightly easier as we move towards full time. (PS how are Tom and Allan?).
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Hugh on April 18, 2021, 02:19:10 AM
I think only Michael Cheek has exceeded 15 league goals at our level this season. Granted, one of two others are likely to join him, but I'd say 15 goals wouldn't be a bad return in all fairness.

A strange season. Even last year with 10 games to go 8 clubs had someone with over 15 goals, 3 more had 14 or 15.

Having someone hit 15 goals is midtable form, unless you're scoring goals fom 2 strikers or round the gam

In the shortened 2019-20 season, there were 16 clubs who didn't have a striker that scored 15 goals. 16 in 2018-19. And 17 clubs in 2017-18. Of corse I'd like to finish top 7, but as I say, it is very difficult now Maunders has left. Best we've managed since is 12th out of 22, and 13th in the current format (unless you cont Salisbury...). Still, here's hoping.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Hugh on April 18, 2021, 02:21:22 AM
Hancock has 11 so far (with a few pens admittedly) but if we'd had a decent number nine, a fair proportion of all those chances missed by our rotating trial strikers might have been converted and we'd be in a much better place. Fine margins as PP said.
Another consideration is that Hulme is still unproven at National level. (braces for response!)

Very well - so was Hancock (I think).
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: hsmith1 on April 21, 2021, 01:16:13 PM
nothing on the website as yet about this???????????????????
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 21, 2021, 01:24:36 PM
nothing on the website as yet about this???????????????????

Merely rumour Harold - don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: hsmith1 on April 21, 2021, 02:06:22 PM
thats what i thought
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: RobskiRobin on April 22, 2021, 12:51:45 PM
There are complications to this deal due to his ban. The management and board weren’t aware of how long of a ban he received which obviously has a knock on effect with his contract/wages whilst unavailable due to something that happened away from here.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Timperley The Best on April 22, 2021, 01:35:08 PM
There are complications to this deal due to his ban. The management and board weren’t aware of how long of a ban he received which obviously has a knock on effect with his contract/wages whilst unavailable due to something that happened away from here.
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Is he still signing ?
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 22, 2021, 03:44:28 PM

Excerpts from Jordan Hulme's recent disciplinary hearing:


IN THE MATTER OF A FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION INDEPENDENT REGULATORY COMMISSION BETWEEN: THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION and MR JORDAN HULME; AFC FYLDE.


WRITTEN REASONS AND DECISION OF THE INDEPENDENT REGULATORY COMMISSION FOLLOWING THE HEARING ON 1 APRIL 2021



The Facts


7. Mr. Hulme signed for AFC Fylde in or around October 2020. Prior to that he was contracted to Altrincham FC and, before that Salford City FC. He started his career as a Non-League Player and has played at various clubs from the age of 18.


8. Mr. Hulme has not received any training in social media usage or best practice. He has 3,826 followers on his official UK Instagram account. This is a public account which is open to anyone to follow him and view the content that appears on his Instagram page and story board.


9. On 7 January 2021 he published an Instagram story on his Instagram account. This post was a screen shot of a newspaper article displaying the headline: “Wu Joking?” along with the comments: “Wuhan mocks UK’s Covid hell, vows to hold more parties and tells Brits to ‘get used to it’”. Below the screen shot of the newspaper article, Mr. Hulme added the comment: “Bat eating freaks” along with an emoji of a bat and a further emoji of someone being sick. The post deleted automatically after 24 hours.


10. Mr. Hulme’s girlfriend had contracted the virus over the Christmas period. They had hosted their family, including elderly grandparents. Two days after Christmas his girlfriend’s symptoms began, and after this, others in the family quickly became infected. His grandfather suffers with poor health and there was concern that if he contracted the virus he may not survive. Thankfully, this was not the case. However, it was during this stressful time, and whilst awaiting the results of his grandfather’s Covid test that he posted the article and the comments. Given the health risks to his family member, to which he had been looking into the Covid 19 virus online, there were a number of ‘sponsored posts’ which had started to appear on his Instagram feed. He stated that the post was directed at the cause of the outbreak and the people that had chosen to eat bats.


Conclusion 36.


The Regulatory Commission came to the unanimous decision, having carefully considered the relevant factors, and have imposed the following sanction;


(i) He is suspended from all domestic club football with immediate effect until such time as the Club with which he is registered have completed SIX First Team competitive Matches in an approved competition.


(ii) Fined the sum of £900.


(iii) Ordered to attend a mandatory face-to-face education programme the details of which will be provided to the Player by The Football Association. That programme is to be completed within a four month period commencing with the date of the Decision letter dated 1  April 2021. If the Player fails to satisfactorily complete the programme in that period, he will be immediately suspended from all domestic club football until such time as the mandatory programme is so completed. Given the ongoing pandemic if, for any health and safety related reason, the programme cannot be delivered face-to-face within the four months indicated then, with the permission of The Football Association, the programme may be undertaken by means of video-conference and/or there may be a reasonable extension of the time period allowed for completion.


37. He  is ordered to make a contribution towards the costs of the Commission of £450.


To read the full report of the Regulatory Commission, type in 'Hulme' as a search in the Individual Name box:

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/written-reasons (https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/written-reasons)



Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: robininstockport on April 22, 2021, 04:05:56 PM
Hardly crime of the century
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: cheshire cat on April 22, 2021, 04:19:59 PM
I agree. However, ignoring the crime it still leaves a question mark over his future. Can't play for anyone until some time in September at the earliest by the looks of it and even though he will probably be raring to go he's not going to be match fit for some time after he gets his first game.

It's a bit of a gamble.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: MarpleAlty on April 22, 2021, 04:29:03 PM
Was only a matter of time before his social media caught up with him - he's hardly the sharpest tool in the box when it comes to the sort of stuff he posts, and what he should know better about.

Still think we should move on. Other clubs don't have Hulme, and manage fine.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 22, 2021, 05:51:08 PM
Still think we should move on. Other clubs don't have Hulme, and manage fine.

I think you're 100% correct.
In any case, this whole thread is based on a couple of suspect suggestions which are unsubstantiated by the Club.
The judgement against him would seem to virtually exclude him from contributing this season anyway.
Surely PP and NS can find a suitable striker in the close season who would have a lesser propensity to go elsewhere at the drop of a hat.
As Marple and others have said, it's time to move on.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: andrewflynn on April 22, 2021, 06:27:57 PM
World's gone mad.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Hale Alty on April 22, 2021, 06:59:23 PM
World's gone mad.

Couldn't agree more. It was a stupid thing to put, but its clip round the ear and no telly for a week.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: HashtagAlty on April 22, 2021, 07:16:23 PM
I think the FA have got this spot on. If it's been reported to them, they can't be seen to let racism slide.

There's been a rise in violence against various communities due to pandemic slurs.

If I made a tweet like that, I would expect to have HR knocking on my door.

Another player we might sign because of a problem past that others aren't interested in.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Mick on April 22, 2021, 08:47:33 PM
World's gone mad.

Couldn't agree more. It was a stupid thing to put, but its clip round the ear and no telly for a week.

Absolutely.

Racist if you choose to want it to be so.........most people in the Uk would consider eating bats a bit freaky.....hence people who eat bats may be described as bat eating freaks. It is offensive at worst. Just saying
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: wayno on April 22, 2021, 09:20:00 PM
I refuse to move on from Hulme untill we discover where Senior is
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: CRT Butty on April 22, 2021, 09:41:16 PM
World's gone mad.

Couldn't agree more. It was a stupid thing to put, but its clip round the ear and no telly for a week.

Absolutely.

Racist if you choose to want it to be so.........most people in the Uk would consider eating bats a bit freaky.....hence people who eat bats may be described as bat eating freaks. It is offensive at worst. Just saying

It's another case of posting before thinking. Twenty years ago he'd have said it down the pub and nobody else would have known a thing about it. He's been an arse.

A shame social media doesn't have a ten minute thinking delay built in.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: cheshire cat on April 22, 2021, 09:51:17 PM
It's more about upsetting one of the FA's biggest customers imho. Jordan's unknown in the grand scheme of things but if someone further up the pyramid did it their might be serious consequences for the FA. You can't have one rule for premiership players and another for everyone else so he gets pinged.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Sale Holmfield on April 22, 2021, 10:13:44 PM
Yes, a couple of important points are that he had no training in social media, and that he also got the Standard Minimum punishment, as there were some mitigating points, but the post was ill-advised to say the least.

He was seen tonight "having a drink" with the Chester management watching Elton Vale FC, so that might be a clue where he is heading next season.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: HashtagAlty on April 22, 2021, 10:49:49 PM
Yes, a couple of important points are that he had no training in social media, and that he also got the Standard Minimum punishment, as there were some mitigating points, but the post was ill-advised to say the least.

He was seen tonight "having a drink" with the Chester management watching Elton Vale FC, so that might be a clue where he is heading next season.

Social media training 😂 we are asking him to use Facebook ad manager. Just don't post content that is considered offensive
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: distancetraveller on April 22, 2021, 11:30:37 PM
World's gone mad.

Couldn't agree more. It was a stupid thing to put, but its clip round the ear and no telly for a week.

Absolutely.

Racist if you choose to want it to be so.........most people in the Uk would consider eating bats a bit freaky.....hence people who eat bats may be described as bat eating freaks. It is offensive at worst. Just saying

Agreed  If you ask for a black coffee these days some T**t gets arsed about it.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: JD on April 23, 2021, 12:16:34 AM
World's gone mad.

Couldn't agree more. It was a stupid thing to put, but its clip round the ear and no telly for a week.

Absolutely.

Racist if you choose to want it to be so.........most people in the Uk would consider eating bats a bit freaky.....hence people who eat bats may be described as bat eating freaks. It is offensive at worst. Just saying

Agreed  If you ask for a black coffee these days some T**t gets arsed about it.

Racist my @rse! I remember my brother telling me about a social workers meeting he had to attend as he was looking for help for a disabled child, but they spent half the meeting talking about not calling coffee white or black! What a waste of time!
And an ex police cadet threatened with discipline for calling a board that was black a blackboard!

As for Hulme's "Crime..." bad taste (re ppl ill WITH Covid) doesn't make it a gross offense the way the FA seem to think. I doub't any bat-eaters will be complaining!
(Unless there are any cricketers with the munchies!)
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: hsmith1 on April 24, 2021, 10:44:57 AM
total madness,I had a ethnic minorty bird in our back garden today
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 24, 2021, 10:46:55 AM
total madness,I had a ethnic minorty bird in our back garden today
Hope your missus doesn't find out Harold! 😉
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: jiminlondon on April 24, 2021, 10:55:20 AM
Yes, if any of it had ever actually happened it would be daft.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: RockyRobin on April 24, 2021, 11:49:27 AM
World's gone mad.

Couldn't agree more. It was a stupid thing to put, but its clip round the ear and no telly for a week.

Absolutely.

Racist if you choose to want it to be so.........most people in the Uk would consider eating bats a bit freaky.....hence people who eat bats may be described as bat eating freaks. It is offensive at worst. Just saying

Agreed  If you ask for a black coffee these days some T**t gets arsed about it.

Racist my @rse! I remember my brother telling me about a social workers meeting he had to attend as he was looking for help for a disabled child, but they spent half the meeting talking about not calling coffee white or black! What a waste of time!
And an ex police cadet threatened with discipline for calling a board that was black a blackboard!

As for Hulme's "Crime..." bad taste (re ppl ill WITH Covid) doesn't make it a gross offense the way the FA seem to think. I doub't any bat-eaters will be complaining!
(Unless there are any cricketers with the munchies!)


Let me guess it was a mate of a mate that told these stories that aren’t  bullsh*t honest.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: finnquark1 on April 24, 2021, 12:46:35 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkCBhKs4faI
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on April 24, 2021, 02:04:37 PM
The subtitles are hysterical.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Ukrainian Alty on April 24, 2021, 02:39:32 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkCBhKs4faI

Someone I know used to work at the UK Border and once did catch an Albanian who presented a falsified British passport.  He was detained and subsequently removed from the UK.  They were alerted to him initially because of the name on the document which was David Blunkett (the Home Secretary at the time).  A rare gift from a forger with a wicked sense of humour.

Another time whilst working on the non-EU desk a passenger approached his desk and presented what he immediately recognised to be a Polish (EU) passport.  Without any further ado my friend informed the passenger that he was in the wrong queue and was he not aware that Poland was in the European Union to which the passenger replied he certainly did know for sure.  The passenger's name when the passport was opened was Lech Walesa (former president of Poland). Oooops!
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Hugh on April 25, 2021, 04:15:04 AM

Excerpts from Jordan Hulme's recent disciplinary hearing:


IN THE MATTER OF A FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION INDEPENDENT REGULATORY COMMISSION BETWEEN: THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION and MR JORDAN HULME; AFC FYLDE.


WRITTEN REASONS AND DECISION OF THE INDEPENDENT REGULATORY COMMISSION FOLLOWING THE HEARING ON 1 APRIL 2021



The Facts


7. Mr. Hulme signed for AFC Fylde in or around October 2020. Prior to that he was contracted to Altrincham FC and, before that Salford City FC. He started his career as a Non-League Player and has played at various clubs from the age of 18.


8. Mr. Hulme has not received any training in social media usage or best practice. He has 3,826 followers on his official UK Instagram account. This is a public account which is open to anyone to follow him and view the content that appears on his Instagram page and story board.


9. On 7 January 2021 he published an Instagram story on his Instagram account. This post was a screen shot of a newspaper article displaying the headline: “Wu Joking?” along with the comments: “Wuhan mocks UK’s Covid hell, vows to hold more parties and tells Brits to ‘get used to it’”. Below the screen shot of the newspaper article, Mr. Hulme added the comment: “Bat eating freaks” along with an emoji of a bat and a further emoji of someone being sick. The post deleted automatically after 24 hours.


10. Mr. Hulme’s girlfriend had contracted the virus over the Christmas period. They had hosted their family, including elderly grandparents. Two days after Christmas his girlfriend’s symptoms began, and after this, others in the family quickly became infected. His grandfather suffers with poor health and there was concern that if he contracted the virus he may not survive. Thankfully, this was not the case. However, it was during this stressful time, and whilst awaiting the results of his grandfather’s Covid test that he posted the article and the comments. Given the health risks to his family member, to which he had been looking into the Covid 19 virus online, there were a number of ‘sponsored posts’ which had started to appear on his Instagram feed. He stated that the post was directed at the cause of the outbreak and the people that had chosen to eat bats.


Conclusion 36.


The Regulatory Commission came to the unanimous decision, having carefully considered the relevant factors, and have imposed the following sanction;


(i) He is suspended from all domestic club football with immediate effect until such time as the Club with which he is registered have completed SIX First Team competitive Matches in an approved competition.


(ii) Fined the sum of £900.


(iii) Ordered to attend a mandatory face-to-face education programme the details of which will be provided to the Player by The Football Association. That programme is to be completed within a four month period commencing with the date of the Decision letter dated 1  April 2021. If the Player fails to satisfactorily complete the programme in that period, he will be immediately suspended from all domestic club football until such time as the mandatory programme is so completed. Given the ongoing pandemic if, for any health and safety related reason, the programme cannot be delivered face-to-face within the four months indicated then, with the permission of The Football Association, the programme may be undertaken by means of video-conference and/or there may be a reasonable extension of the time period allowed for completion.


37. He  is ordered to make a contribution towards the costs of the Commission of £450.


To read the full report of the Regulatory Commission, type in 'Hulme' as a search in the Individual Name box:

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/written-reasons (https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/written-reasons)

Yes. I wondered if it might be something of the sort.

Didn't some of us used to say something similar about Runcorn? I also seem to remember being called an "odd creature", though admittedly I am not a race or nationality (well perhaps a different nationality to most of us, depending on how you define it).

I can also guarantee that many people will react badly to the (potential) loss of grandparents etc. and have myself lost a grandparent in the past year. And perhaps some people will recall a certain Cheshire Senior Cup final between Witton and Woodley Sports at ML.

Well, I can see why they banned him - should that preclude him from coming back to ML? I'll leave that to others. And I repeat, I would welcome footballers from all parts of Asia and any attempts to promote understanding and harmony.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Nom de plume on April 25, 2021, 03:16:20 PM
total madness,I had a ethnic minorty bird in our back garden today
Hope your missus doesn't find out Harold! 😉
Was she a mynah?
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: JD on April 25, 2021, 09:16:40 PM
World's gone mad.

Couldn't agree more. It was a stupid thing to put, but its clip round the ear and no telly for a week.

Absolutely.

Racist if you choose to want it to be so.........most people in the Uk would consider eating bats a bit freaky.....hence people who eat bats may be described as bat eating freaks. It is offensive at worst. Just saying

Agreed  If you ask for a black coffee these days some T**t gets arsed about it.

Racist my @rse! I remember my brother telling me about a social workers meeting he had to attend as he was looking for help for a disabled child, but they spent half the meeting talking about not calling coffee white or black! What a waste of time!
And an ex police cadet threatened with discipline for calling a board that was black a blackboard!

As for Hulme's "Crime..." bad taste (re ppl ill WITH Covid) doesn't make it a gross offense the way the FA seem to think. I doub't any bat-eaters will be complaining!
(Unless there are any cricketers with the munchies!)


Let me guess it was a mate of a mate that told these stories that aren’t  bullsh*t honest.

My brother and a close friend who were there!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: cheshire cat on April 25, 2021, 09:48:46 PM
Hugh,

Society is full of odd creatures. None of us are the same. We cremated my father in law this week. As odd as they come but a real privilege to have known him. RIP.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: Sale Holmfield on April 25, 2021, 10:06:45 PM
Hugh,

Society is full of odd creatures. None of us are the same. We cremated my father in law this week. As odd as they come but a real privilege to have known him. RIP.
I am very sorry to read about your father in law, Cheshire Cat, and my thoughts are with you and the family.
To a certain extent, all of us are odd for supporting a smaller club, and all the better for it.
Title: Re: Hulme
Post by: CRT Butty on April 26, 2021, 12:13:16 PM
Hugh,

Society is full of odd creatures. None of us are the same. We cremated my father in law this week. As odd as they come but a real privilege to have known him. RIP.
I am very sorry to read about your father in law, Cheshire Cat, and my thoughts are with you and the family.
To a certain extent, all of us are odd for supporting a smaller club, and all the better for it.

There's no such thing g as a normal housing man. There's billions of us and we're all unique. Thankfully.