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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: John Edwards on March 18, 2021, 11:01:45 AM
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There's a big announcement on the club's website now.
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Great news. Well done to all involved
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Huge this, well done to the club!
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What an exciting update, can't wait to see what the new kits look like.
A huge thank you to Ian and SK Kits - the rainbow kit will remain iconic and a marker of the forward-thinking nature of the club.
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Exciting news. Hopefully will be as good as it sounds.
Big thanks to Ian Senior and SK Kits as well, his service and merchandise have been excellent over the previous seasons.
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Hope this doesn't impact too much on Ian Senior's business though. He's been a good friend to the Club for many years - and not just in this area.
Can't see Puma providing reasonably priced 'kits' for my, now nearly one year old, twin grandchildren like he did.
Thanks for everything Ian.
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This has come a little out of the blue, hasn't it? A game-changer for us and our ambitions.
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What an exciting update, can't wait to see what the new kits look like.
A huge thank you to Ian and SK Kits - the rainbow kit will remain iconic and a marker of the forward-thinking nature of the club.
I'm sure the club will have many more ideas than Puma can do; and hopefully they won't try and profitteer of the clubs genuine gesture to be an inclusive club.
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Good news... shows the club is looking to continually move forward, improve, and grow...
That said, don't forget Ian Senior & SKKits commitment to the club over the years... great man & local-ish business... also would do any sizes from 3-6mths upto 5XL/6XL... not sure if Puma will do sizes over 3XL so for those like me on the chubbier side may struggle to get a top that fits...
Hence, the Club looks to the future... but a special thanks & acknowledgement must go to the past/present & Ian Senior!
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Hope this doesn't impact too much on Ian Senior's business though. He's been a good friend to the Club for many years - and not just in this area.
Can't see Puma providing reasonably priced 'kits' for my, now nearly one year old, twin grandchildren like he did.
Thanks for everything Ian.
A quick look online shows league clubs using Puma are generally charging similar prices for shirts as clubs with other, maybe less glamorous, brands. Time will tell...
This is massive news, a huge statement of intent and great boost to our commercial profile. I'm sure it's difficult to be leaving a supplier who's done a good job for us but it's a very competitive market and no club has the same kit supplier forever, ourselves included when we look back over the years.
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Fantastic news this and I strongly suspect will make a big increase on our kit sales and add extra appeal to our younger supporters and prospective supporters certainly in the town.
Obviously Ian Senior has done a fine job for the club over the years and that should be acknowledged I agree. However, it’s a business relationship, we’ve had many different kit manufacturers over the years and the new board have barely put a foot wrong yet and this is another hugely positive step for me.
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The current PSV home shirt is Puma, if that gives us any kind of idea regarding what to expect...
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Personally, I'd favour this design for our away kit:
(https://bandsfc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Kraftwerk-Kit.jpg)
Or this Kurt Cobain-inspired shirt, which has a particularly poignant message on the back for those of us who experienced the traumatic finale to the 1990/91 season:
(https://data.nssmag.com/images/galleries/12127/nss-sports-copa-nirvana-1.jpg)
Alternatively, here's one for all those ageing punks on the Golf Road End:
(https://www.amplifiedclothing.com/uploads/images/products/large/amplified_ramones_ramonesblitzkreigfc_1605531800RAMONESFRONT.jpg)
(https://www.amplifiedclothing.com/uploads/images/products/verylarge/amplified_ramones_ramonesblitzkreigfc_1605531802RAMONESBACK.jpg)
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Further to my earlier message above... just like to again reiterate how great it has been to have Ian & his kits supply our Club for so many years... great man & great business!
See his SKkits tweet below...
https://twitter.com/SKkits2/status/1372541934359695362?s=20
Hope we still see you at games in the future (when fans allowed back in)...
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I'm not clear.
What exactly is in it for us as a club?
Are they giving us sponsorship money? There doesn't seem to be any explanation of the benefits apart from being associated with a big company.
Am I missing something?
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I'm not clear.
What exactly is in it for us as a club?
Are they giving us sponsorship money? There doesn't seem to be any explanation of the benefits apart from being associated with a big company.
Am I missing something?
You're missing quite a few things, I'd say, all of which are made clear in the article on the official website. It will increase revenue, it's prestigious and the players will benefit from the superior quality of the shirts themselves. This is fantastic news and so manifestly in the best interests of the football club we all support that I'm bemused anybody would fail to welcome it.
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I'm not clear.
What exactly is in it for us as a club?
Are they giving us sponsorship money? There doesn't seem to be any explanation of the benefits apart from being associated with a big company.
Am I missing something?
I suspect we will sell more replica gear with Puma on it than, with the best will in the world, SK Sports and of course there is a higher profile and the kudos being attached to a top brand.
The devil will be in the detail (which I doubt we will see) financially but there will be probably be the trade off between what cost there is - if any - for us getting the team kit and how the income is split between Puma and us for the sale of replicas.
Puma teamwear, incidentally, are in Wythenshawe so nice to see a local connection also.
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I'm not clear.
What exactly is in it for us as a club?
Are they giving us sponsorship money? There doesn't seem to be any explanation of the benefits apart from being associated with a big company.
Am I missing something?
You're missing quite a few things, I'd say, all of which are made clear in the article on the official website. It will increase revenue, it's prestigious and the players will benefit from the superior quality of the shirts themselves. This is fantastic news and so manifestly in the best interests of the football club we all support that I'm bemused anybody would fail to welcome it.
Well that's telling me! 😉
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I'm not clear.
What exactly is in it for us as a club?
Are they giving us sponsorship money? There doesn't seem to be any explanation of the benefits apart from being associated with a big company.
Am I missing something?
I suspect we will sell more replica gear with Puma on it than, with the best will in the world, SK Sports and of course there is a higher profile and the kudos being attached to a top brand.
The devil will be in the detail (which I doubt we will see) financially but there will be probably be the trade off between what cost there is - if any - for us getting the team kit and how the income is split between Puma and us for the sale of replicas.
Puma teamwear, incidentally, are in Wythenshawe so nice to see a local connection also.
Thanks Bob.
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I'm not clear.
What exactly is in it for us as a club?
Are they giving us sponsorship money? There doesn't seem to be any explanation of the benefits apart from being associated with a big company.
Am I missing something?
You're missing quite a few things, I'd say, all of which are made clear in the article on the official website. It will increase revenue, it's prestigious and the players will benefit from the superior quality of the shirts themselves. This is fantastic news and so manifestly in the best interests of the football club we all support that I'm bemused anybody would fail to welcome it.
Well that's telling me! 😉
Apart from the players comfort I can't see how we benefit. Puma won't be marketing them, we will. We'll sell more or less the same quantities. Why would somebody buy an Alty top if they weren't a fan. A fan wants an Alty top because it's an Alty top, be it by Puma or anybody else.
Oh well, I'm happy to let this float merrily by, the club are very pleased with the deal, so that's good enough for me.
Time for a Guinness.
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Also bear in mind the deal is a four year one, Puma are also therefore buying into our future plans for the club, with a long association in the contract.
Alex my younger son works in marketing, and he reckons this is a massive deal for the club. You won't get to know the financial aspects though, that's between the club and Puma.
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i do not see how signing a shirt deal relates to Big times beckoning,unless we are getting some cash from it.
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i do not see how signing a shirt deal relates to Big times beckoning,unless we are getting some cash from it.
I think that was what I was getting at.
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ah right
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It was someone else who took me to task about it 🙄😏
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Surely it's healthy for the club to be examining it's commercial activity and making sure we are getting the best deal on our kit supply. Change for the sake of change can be harmful but refusing to look at our options is just as bad.
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More local, more iconic?
https://altrincham.todaynews.co.uk/2021/03/03/news/business/britains-oldest-sportswear-brand-has-moved-its-head-office-to-altrincham-town-centre/
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Good to see on Alty website that SKKits will still be involved at the club going forward in some capacity... Ian Senior & his business have been great supporters of Alty for over a decade.
https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/still-a-role-at-alty-for-skkits
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Good to see on Alty website that SKKits will still be involved at the club going forward in some capacity... Ian Senior & his business have been great supporters of Alty for over a decade.
https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/still-a-role-at-alty-for-skkits
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I have dealt with Ian a couple of times buying Alty merch, and he's a lovely chap to deal with, so I am happy he will still be within the club.
However, this is a really forward thinking statement of intent from the club and I am sure it will raise our profile further.
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I have dealt with Ian a couple of times buying Alty merch, and he's a lovely chap to deal with, so I am happy he will still be within the club.
However, this is a really forward thinking statement of intent from the club and I am sure it will raise our profile further.
Really? In what way?
Presumably you'd think the same if Dawn was binned and replaced by McDonalds?
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I have dealt with Ian a couple of times buying Alty merch, and he's a lovely chap to deal with, so I am happy he will still be within the club.
However, this is a really forward thinking statement of intent from the club and I am sure it will raise our profile further.
Really? In what way?
Presumably you'd think the same if Dawn was binned and replaced by McDonalds?
WTF!
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No seriously, why would Puma taking over make any difference? There won't be any more kits sold because they are Puma rather than SK. There will probably be fewer because they will increase in price.
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Lets just go back to the Unibond!
Do ppl really think that our board would make moves like this on a whim? Especially considering the talent that has been added to the board recently?
maybe at the next Q&A ppl might like to ask the board instead of just putting such negativity on here.
yes, we have the right to question things, but maybe better with the full facts.
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This thread has been both entertaining and horrifying in equal measure. I'll keep my thoughts to myself but people need to consider that this decision will have taken months and the board will have considered several options in detail. I can see why fans have respect for SK kits, and the respect shown by the club to SK is commendable. I am glad to see that there will still be a business relationship with SK, as highlighted by many already.
I will state one opinion however: we will 100% sell much more Puma merchandise than we would have if we had continued with SK.
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No seriously, why would Puma taking over make any difference? There won't be any more kits sold because they are Puma rather than SK. There will probably be fewer because they will increase in price.
If you can’t see why internationally renowned sporting giant Puma making our kit is a good thing for the club, will really appeal a lot more to the younger element of our fan base and will almost certainly generate a lot more revenue for us then the SK Kits deal there isn’t much point in engaging. The club is changing and professionalising and frankly I’m all for it but I see some fear these overdue and necessary changes.
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I'm not saying it's a bad thing but I don't see it as a good thing either.
It might result in more sales if Puma up the advertising of the kit but advertising costs money so expect prices to increase. Fools and their money are easily parted I grant you.
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one of my old pairs of running shoes is made by puma
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No seriously, why would Puma taking over make any difference? There won't be any more kits sold because they are Puma rather than SK. There will probably be fewer because they will increase in price.
If you can’t see why internationally renowned sporting giant Puma making our kit is a good thing for the club, will really appeal a lot more to the younger element of our fan base and will almost certainly generate a lot more revenue for us then the SK Kits deal there isn’t much point in engaging. The club is changing and professionalising and frankly I’m all for it but I see some fear these overdue and necessary changes.
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I have dealt with Ian a couple of times buying Alty merch, and he's a lovely chap to deal with, so I am happy he will still be within the club.
However, this is a really forward thinking statement of intent from the club and I am sure it will raise our profile further.
Really? In what way?
Presumably you'd think the same if Dawn was binned and replaced by McDonalds?
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Apologies for repeating myself on this thread but a kit supplier is exactly that, a supplier. Not a single football club I can think of in history has kept the same brand. Just as a kit manufacturer can gain a club, it can lose one too and SK Kits are not immune from this; I am sure they will replace other suppliers at other clubs in future. As very good a job as SK Kits has done for us they appear to have done well to from the relationship also.
It's business at the end of the day and comparing an external supplier in a competitive market to volunteers at the snack bar is nonsense. I trust the club to have done their homework on this, interesting link below too.
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.pumateamwear.com?utm_medium=trustbox&utm_source=Mini
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What an exciting update, can't wait to see what the new kits look like.
A huge thank you to Ian and SK Kits - the rainbow kit will remain iconic and a marker of the forward-thinking nature of the club.
That was political wasn't it? Masks as well for that matter. Ironically, I seem to remember a controversy concerning Puma, the Jamaica Olympic team and a certain rapper... among other things.
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John Coyne's programme notes mention that the Puma deal will 'substantially increase margin on replica sales without having to increase the price we sell to supporters'. So even if we don't sell more replica shirts (which we will) as a result of this deal, the club will make more money from the ones it does sell. I hope that helps people still struggling to understand why this is good news.
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Judging by the state of this thread, you'd be forgiven for thinking half the fanbase would rather Rowley was still in charge of everything.
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What an exciting update, can't wait to see what the new kits look like.
A huge thank you to Ian and SK Kits - the rainbow kit will remain iconic and a marker of the forward-thinking nature of the club.
That was political wasn't it? Masks as well for that matter. Ironically, I seem to remember a controversy concerning Puma, the Jamaica Olympic team and a certain rapper... among other things.
It was about solidarity. We replaced our red and white stripes with rainbow to showcase everyone is welcome at JDS.
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What an exciting update, can't wait to see what the new kits look like.
A huge thank you to Ian and SK Kits - the rainbow kit will remain iconic and a marker of the forward-thinking nature of the club.
That was political wasn't it? Masks as well for that matter. Ironically, I seem to remember a controversy concerning Puma, the Jamaica Olympic team and a certain rapper... among other things.
If one is inclined to think of anything relating to racism and/or LGBT as 'political', then I'm afraid that's the issue.
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Who will be running the club shop?
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What an exciting update, can't wait to see what the new kits look like.
A huge thank you to Ian and SK Kits - the rainbow kit will remain iconic and a marker of the forward-thinking nature of the club.
That was political wasn't it? Masks as well for that matter. Ironically, I seem to remember a controversy concerning Puma, the Jamaica Olympic team and a certain rapper... among other things.
It was about solidarity. We replaced our red and white stripes with rainbow to showcase everyone is welcome at JDS.
I've got a Solidarity badge somewhere, as in Lech Walesa.
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Judging by the state of this thread, you'd be forgiven for thinking half the fanbase would rather Rowley was still in charge of everything.
I don't think it's ever going to get to that! 🙄
One hope I've got though is that whoever makes the next shirt, it's a red and white striped one
I love innovation and I'm all for the way the club and the team are progressing.
It's just that I'd like to see them do it in red and white stripes!
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Judging by the state of this thread, you'd be forgiven for thinking half the fanbase would rather Rowley was still in charge of everything.
I don't think it's ever going to get to that! 🙄
One hope I've got though is that whoever makes the next shirt, it's a red and white striped one
I love innovation and I'm all for the way the club and the team are progressing.
It's just that I'd like to see them do it in red and white stripes!
Never fear, SR - can't remember where I saw it (possibly Facebook) but the club have already confirmed that they're returning to our traditional red and white stripes next season :)
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Judging by the state of this thread, you'd be forgiven for thinking half the fanbase would rather Rowley was still in charge of everything.
I don't think it's ever going to get to that! 🙄
One hope I've got though is that whoever makes the next shirt, it's a red and white striped one
I love innovation and I'm all for the way the club and the team are progressing.
It's just that I'd like to see them do it in red and white stripes!
Never fear, SR - can't remember where I saw it (possibly Facebook) but the club have already confirmed that they're returning to our traditional red and white stripes next season :)
That's fantastic news! 😉
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