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Title: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Inter Alty! on March 07, 2021, 11:52:59 AM
So today is the 12mth anniversary since the last fans match at Moss Lane... great 4-1 win over Spennymoor... missing footy experience... i did go the Nantwich away pre-season friendly in Sept, but it all seems so long ago...

On Tuesday eve we go again v Hartlepool... our last match brought an end to a bad run of results as our 10men gained a hard fought win with new faces and the return of some injured... assume the team maybe quite similar bar maybe Mooney or Hancock returning & obviously a replacement for suspended Hannigan... also assume three loanees will start again (Ogle & Zouma were great, Gibson less so - finding a 20goal plus striker is still a priority)...

We seem to play better against top teams and Hartlepool went joint top yesterday after winning at top team Torquay...

Predicted Team:
                             TT
Senior  Mullarkey  Zouma  Ogle
                  Moult      Smith
        Mooney    Kosylo   Colclough
                          Gibson
Subs- Connor,  Richman,  Ceesay, Hancock,  Peers

Predict: Alty 2-1 win (Kosylo & Gibson)... but draw ok...

Looking forwatd to game... hope stream will be ok...

COYR!   ....Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 07, 2021, 12:23:22 PM
Agree with the starting 11,but I'd have Hardy on the bench
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 07, 2021, 01:53:40 PM


I'd recall Andy Windsor and play him as our centre forward in the hope that he could reproduce another stunning piledriver resembling the thunderous shot that he unleashed in the 2-0 FA Cup First Round victory over Hartlepool at Moss Lane back in November 1973.

Still one of the most exhilarating Alty FA Cup goals that I have been privileged to witness.

We should get Brian Flynn and John Henderson back as ball boys for the occasion, too.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: onetoothsdad on March 07, 2021, 08:50:21 PM
Yes l was at that match and if l remember correctly it was 0-0 at halftime and we had played well, facing into a very strong wind and defending the Golf Rd end.
In the second half obviously we had the wind at our backs and when Andy whacked the ball in it is still probably the sweetest strike l have ever seen. It was a goal the instant it left his foot. He was so far out l think he was somewhere near the train station when he let fly.
 
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Hugh on March 07, 2021, 11:52:42 PM
Woking had just beaten Torquay as well. Didn't we jolly nearly win at Hartlepool?
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on March 08, 2021, 08:13:30 AM
Woking had just beaten Torquay as well. Didn't we jolly nearly win at Hartlepool?
Indeed. Pools keeper made a very good penalty save from Kosylo in time added on at the end of the game to deny us all three points.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on March 08, 2021, 11:02:01 AM
These are the types of games we seem to really enjoy this season. Expecting a strong performance and with a bit of luck a positive result.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on March 08, 2021, 11:23:16 AM
These are the types of games we seem to really enjoy this season. Expecting a strong performance and with a bit of luck a positive result.

My sentiments exactly Andrew. #COYR
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Seth on March 08, 2021, 12:00:39 PM
So glad we're coming into this one without the losing streak!
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on March 08, 2021, 12:56:50 PM
These are the types of games we seem to really enjoy this season. Expecting a strong performance and with a bit of luck a positive result.

My sentiments exactly Andrew. #COYR

For the first time this season i would like to see a centre forward have a real impact on the game.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: JD on March 08, 2021, 06:07:48 PM
These are the types of games we seem to really enjoy this season. Expecting a strong performance and with a bit of luck a positive result.

My sentiments exactly Andrew. #COYR

For the first time this season i would like to see a centre forward have a real impact on the game.

Preferably ours!  ;)
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Inter Alty! on March 09, 2021, 08:18:55 AM
Really looking forward to tonight's game... can again test ourselves against one of the top clubs... had some decent results against higher teams... hoping for another win...

Plus hoping stream works whole match...

COYR!
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 09, 2021, 07:06:44 PM


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Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Mick on March 09, 2021, 09:36:45 PM
COYR
Keeper not made a save second half yet?
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on March 09, 2021, 09:43:57 PM
They defended well and are a good team. We lacked a finisher AGAIN. We'd probably have lost 11 v 11. Oddly though, I feel we blew 4 points v Pools this season.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Mick on March 09, 2021, 09:47:34 PM
Would have taken a point after ten minutes....but disappointing in the end.

Would have liked to see a replay of the goal and maybe the red card
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on March 09, 2021, 09:53:55 PM
I really enjoyed that. Thanks RR.

Could, perhaps, should have won that but I am pleased with a point against a team aiming to go top.

Well done Alty.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 09, 2021, 09:54:00 PM


Ultimately a frustrating outcome but they were the better side when it was 11 versus 11.

It's a broken record but the absence of a proven striker has handicapped us yet again.

I'm struggling to recall a worse performance as a substitute than Dan Mooney's!
 

Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 09, 2021, 09:59:21 PM


Ultimately a frustrating outcome but they were the better side when it was 11 versus 11.

It's a broken record but the absence of a proven striker has handicapped us yet again.

I'm struggling to recall a worse performance as a substitute than Dan Mooney's!

Dan Mooney was dreadful, poor lad!

He won't ever play much worse than that.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 09, 2021, 09:59:51 PM
How much do we miss having a number nine?
Not having a pop at anyone because they all put a shift in but playing the best sides in this league without a target man puts more pressure on everyone and it's like fighting with one hand tied behind your back.

PS. As other people have said, I'd have settled for a draw at kick off but...
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: JD on March 09, 2021, 10:00:16 PM
Superb game. One point against even a 10 man Hartlepool is no bad result; they were resolute in defence and always a danger.
Senior my MotM.

Pitch looked and played very well, further justifying the decision to rest it, expecially seeing some of the pitches on Sky Sports news!
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: JD on March 09, 2021, 10:01:17 PM
How much do we miss having a number nine?
Not having a pop at anyone because they all put a shift in but playing the best sides in this league without a target man puts more pressure on everyone and it's like fighting with one hand tied behind your back.

PS. As other people have said, I'd have settled for a draw at kick off but...

Gibson was looking very good before he was injured and Peers did not play badly, but he is better behind a No9
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: VofD on March 09, 2021, 10:02:13 PM
Far too much side to side passing and backwards.Not enough penetration on their goal.Mooney awful wen he came on.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on March 09, 2021, 10:08:25 PM
The stream worked well tonight, much improved (although missed the red card due to a replay being shown).
Thought Zouma and Senior did well.
Hartlepool defended well in great numbers, we might have needed 3 or 4 of our wingers /forwards on form to break through it. We didn't have that tonight and a couple of our forwards simply don't get their shots on target enough. Their keeper looked vulnerable (see our goal) so a bit frustrating but not a bad result overall.

Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 09, 2021, 10:13:59 PM
Colclough was excellent again.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Mick on March 09, 2021, 10:16:12 PM
Please correct me if I am wrong.....but did their keeper make a save second half.

We just never tested him after his error in the first half.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 09, 2021, 10:48:50 PM
Frustrating as it was Gibson having to come off early threw a massive spanner in the works.

Didn't test the keeper any where near enough and Mooney was dreadful. Ceesay was poor, but after that thought everyone else was decent.

If it had stayed 11 v 11 I wouldn't have fancied getting anything.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on March 09, 2021, 10:52:26 PM
Hartlepool earned their point.

I'd have taken a point after ten minites.

Dan Mooney does a great James Laurie impression. Let's hope he doesn't persist with it
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on March 09, 2021, 11:13:58 PM
Hartlepool earned their point.

I'd have taken a point after ten minites.

Dan Mooney does a great James Laurie impression. Let's hope he doesn't persist with it

Let's hope it's not a John Laurie impression, or we are all doomed! Seriously, maybe he was brought back a bit too quickly?

I would have taken a point before the start, or after 10 minutes, but it was disappointing after our play in the first half of the second half, where, despite all our dominance in possession, we never really tested Killip beyond a couple of half-chances. Hartlepool defended well, and adjusted their team to cope better towards the end of the game. They have still never beaten us, but I can see why they are high in the table.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Seth on March 09, 2021, 11:16:15 PM
Match report:
https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/the-monkey-hangers-hang-in-with-10-men
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Thomas H on March 09, 2021, 11:29:09 PM
We definitely won the sideways passing competition.
Probably missed Hancock tonight.
Substitutions didn’t quite work.
Pity we didn’t test their goalkeeper after his howler.
We still need to solve the Striker position.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on March 09, 2021, 11:32:44 PM
I always felt sorry for James. He tried hard, lost the ball and then squealed with anguish to draw attention to the fact. Usually followed by a dive in to win it back.

A few people have noticed that their keepwe didn't make a save but their defenders certainly did
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Mick on March 10, 2021, 12:30:35 AM
To be fair......our disappointment shows how far we have progressed under PP and NS with the current set up at the JDS / Moss Lane

A few seasons ago we were at Mickleover
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: altyusa on March 10, 2021, 01:28:47 AM
To be fair......our disappointment shows how far we have progressed under PP and NS with the current set up at the JDS / Moss Lane

A few seasons ago we were at Mickleover

Mick.  Exactly!  I couldn't agree more!
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 10, 2021, 08:31:07 AM
It's never a given against ten men, and it's clear they realised it was better to dig in for a point which is a credit to us.

A few of the lads did try to have a go from outside the box, but fair play they defended resolutely.

I agree about missing Hancock.

Says everything about this bizarre league that we would have shot back up to 6th if we'd nicked the winner.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on March 10, 2021, 10:03:39 AM
It's never a given against ten men, and it's clear they realised it was better to dig in for a point which is a credit to us.

A few of the lads did try to have a go from outside the box, but fair play they defended resolutely.

I agree about missing Hancock.

Says everything about this bizarre league that we would have shot back up to 6th if we'd nicked the winner.

Summed it up well there Marple. Definitely missing Josh and No9, We had several good half chances to test the keeper 2nd half but we were poor in the final third plus some resolute defending.  Were progressing well, onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 10, 2021, 10:27:44 AM
I think we're doing fantastic, and better than I expected, but I also think that we've reached the peak of where we're likely to achieve without an out-and-out 'you-know-what' to put away the kind of chances we had last night.
We all know those kind of players are relatively few and far between and that the club have been trying to address the issue so this is not a criticism just a statement of fact.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on March 10, 2021, 12:46:58 PM
Ceesay was poor, but after that thought everyone else was decent.

I'm afraid I am not convinced by Ceesay at this level at all. I liked his pace and threat in the league below, but he now just looks one dimensional with a (mostly) poor end product. I know he's had injury problems, but his pace isn't really the issue. His touch is shocking at times and his shooting ability leaves a lot to be desired. Having said that, I really do hope that he proves me wrong, but I don't see him as part of the long term plan based on what we've seen so far this season.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on March 10, 2021, 12:49:27 PM
Yet again, for the time he was on, Gibson was underwhelming.
Gave it away, passing poor, again ran down blind alleys with it


Mooney just had one of those first games back I think.

Whilst you always want your striker to score, if you look at what else we have going forward I reckon someone to hold it up, link the play and occupy the centre backs has enormous value.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 10, 2021, 03:02:27 PM
Gibson's a bit of a funny one - clearly too good for the regional leagues but whether he's National or North standard, it was always worth taking a look - he clearly needs his confidence building back up, an early goal would do his confidence the world of good.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: jiminlondon on March 10, 2021, 05:29:06 PM
He was on the pitch for 20 minutes
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Inter Alty! on March 10, 2021, 07:00:26 PM
After about 10mins Hartlepool appeared to be in control and i would have taken a draw, but after they went down to 10men i thought we could have won it... Hartlepool played well with 10men but they seemed to gradually run out of steam in the 2nd half and in the last 20mins thought we were going to push on and sneak a win... however, never really got at their keeper...

Thought Zouma & Ogle were good again and seemed to have helped the defence look more stable... other areas of the pitch most played well/ok bar Mooney having an off day as sub and Ceesay having an average game...

Main issue continues to be striker 'problem'... all been said before, & agree it's hard to find a quality 20plus goalscorer midseason as all/most good ones will already be under contract elsewhere, however we need to solve this issue...

Parky & the Board have tried several options since Jordan left day before season started... Hancock has been tried but better behind striker, Peers also tried but more of player for bench to come on... also Mooney, Kosylo, Ceesay tried on occasions but they're better in other positions... then new faces like Clayton, McDonald, Adarbioyo, Harrison etc tried and not worked... presently have Piggott & Hardy who both need to get matchfit, then loanee Gibson getting injured last night... wonder who'll be next to be tried - hopefully Hardy &/or Piggott can get fit to last 90mins... the striker issue is main position to solve in the summer, if not before...

Roll on Aldershot game on Saturday... not sure who'll be up front, but hopefully we can get a win... COYR!
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on March 10, 2021, 07:21:27 PM
Hardy is not a 9 and his goals return is certainly not impressive. Surely Piggott should be on the bench in order to assist fitness (unless he is injured).
It's frightening to imagine how well we'd have done had we been able to get Hartlepool's number 9.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: JD on March 10, 2021, 07:26:17 PM
Yet again, for the time he was on, Gibson was underwhelming.
Gave it away, passing poor, again ran down blind alleys with it


Mooney just had one of those first games back I think.

Whilst you always want your striker to score, if you look at what else we have going forward I reckon someone to hold it up, link the play and occupy the centre backs has enormous value.

Not like he was on for long and has shown himself to trouble defenders in both the games he has played. Shame to dismiss him after so short a time.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 10, 2021, 07:51:03 PM
Not seen enough of either Piggott (at this level) or Gibson to make I solid decision yet
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Randy Konk on March 11, 2021, 07:41:29 AM
Hartlepool earned their point.

I'd have taken a point after ten minites.

Dan Mooney does a great James Laurie impression. Let's hope he doesn't persist with it

Exactly what I was thinking.

Like others on here, would have taken a point before kick off but disappointed it wasn’t more after the sending off. Difficult to rate the defenders against ten men but thought Zouma looked assured.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on March 11, 2021, 09:50:32 AM
He was on the pitch for 20 minutes

Indeed he was but my personal view is that he isn't the answer to our needs.
He doesn't do what we need a sole No9 to do.

I would say give him more time but he's on loan and doesn't have that commodity available to him.

Maybe, because he's not performed anywhere near as well as the other two he had fallen under more scrutiny, I don't know
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on March 11, 2021, 12:59:36 PM
We need Josh Hancock back.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 11, 2021, 06:13:51 PM
Having watched the highlights its most certainly a red card.

Poor, poor goal to concede. Not only does their 10 have Ogle on toast but Moults lack of helping him out is very evident.

Not great keeping for Colcloughs' but it doesn't half move

Great highlights btw
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: JD on March 11, 2021, 08:26:52 PM
A couple of comments about understandable disappointment at not finishing 10 man Hartlepool off, but remember their defence was very compact and solid and being down to 10mmen against Woking didn't do us much harm.
You still get 9 or 10 behind the ball so you are still facing a full defence, but have less chance - usually - of conceding.

The red card, by the way; that was a nasty challenge, well worth the red!