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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: oneedham on February 27, 2021, 09:40:35 PM
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A lot will say no and I get it, but I've had enough of this trial and error striker nonsense.
Those two are what we really need, only for the rest of the season.
The season is already fading so let's just go for it.
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I will say no as the season is already fading. We are not going up and not going down. They are both good players, but Scott Leather is no better than the defenders we already have, although Jordan Hulme would be an improvement.
I don't see why we should spend money on a loan to finish 10th, say, rather than 17th.
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Leather has the experience over Toby, who has so much potential and will get there.
I know Sutton is a good defender but he really needs to get in shape, it is like he has rocked up pre season.
We still could go on a crazy run and make it but we really need to act now. Everyone can see the issue's and they haven't been addressed since Jordan left.
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Leather's Chorley came straight back down to the Conf North, and Hulme has never played at this level. They aren't Alty players, stop living in the past. If we need reinforcements, and I would argue that we don't, it wouldn't be them.
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If 5 consecutive defeats isn't a good time to make some changes, I don't know when is. If our 3 missing forward players are out for a while, we will struggle to score goals. Tuesday is massive.
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Leather would be an asset.
Hulme is possibly the biggest sh*thouse in non-league. 'Want to play at the highest level I can', 'want to play with my name on my shirt', gets the chance to do both and turns it down. GTF
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Chester losing 20k a month even without the season playing out.
I'm sure Dudley is worth part of clearing that debt.
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Let's get a grip, for Christ's sake.
Recruitment up to this point hasn't been cheap, and there's literally nothing left to play for.
I don't begrudge Hulme moving on when he did, but I can guarantee it wouldn't be the same if he came back. He also takes about half a dozen games to get going each season so why would he hit the ground running?
Leather is a bit different. Like Willo, he's considerably better than the player that left us - and as a centre half, he'd probably have a few years left in him if he did end up becoming a permanent option.
Next we'll be clamouring for JJ to come back.
This thread will look ridiculous in a few weeks.
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I think the other thing is regardless of whether we should go in for them or not, then as established Conference North players they may just not want the travel that our league entails. Leather presumably has a job outside football & maybe playing in a regional league suits them both more off the field too.
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Chester losing 20k a month even without the season playing out.
I'm sure Dudley is worth part of clearing that debt.
Yeah Dudley would be very good.
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Let's get a grip, for Christ's sake.
Recruitment up to this point hasn't been cheap, and there's literally nothing left to play for.
I don't begrudge Hulme moving on when he did, but I can guarantee it wouldn't be the same if he came back. He also takes about half a dozen games to get going each season so why would he hit the ground running?
Leather is a bit different. Like Willo, he's considerably better than the player that left us - and as a centre half, he'd probably have a few years left in him if he did end up becoming a permanent option.
Next we'll be clamouring for JJ to come back.
This thread will look ridiculous in a few weeks.
No doubt it will turn back around but we may need short term reinforcements, striker 100%.
Depends on the injuries aswell.
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I think the other thing is regardless of whether we should go in for them or not, then as established Conference North players they may just not want the travel that our league entails. Leather presumably has a job outside football & maybe playing in a regional league suits them both more off the field too.
Yeah I think Jordan also left because he doing PT for when footy ends.
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I don't think there's any doubt that Jordan Hulme, committed to the Alty cause, would give us the goalscoring target man we've been after since the first game of the season. Which was a few days after he left us to play regional football.
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All I can say is that if Harrison, Peers or Fisayo are the answer, I just don't know what the question is.
We all know (including the management) that we need a striker. I don't think that is, or should be, Hulme. He has already amply demonstrated his level of commitment to us so let's just thank him for what he did in the past and move on.
I think as far as the defence is concerned, if our forwards were more of a threat with a dangerous number nine, it would take a bit of pressure off and they would be okay.
Just my opinion.
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All I can say is that if Harrison, Peers or Fisayo are the answer, I just don't know what the question is.
We all know (including the management) that we need a striker. I don't think that is, or should be, Hulme. He has already amply demonstrated his level of commitment to us so let's just thank him for what he did in the past and move on.
I think as far as the defence is concerned, if our forwards were more of a threat with a dangerous number nine, it would take a bit of pressure off and they would be okay.
Just my opinion.
And mine
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Aside from what I've already said on the matter, Jordan will be on a decent wage up there, and we would be expected to subsidise that - possibly to the full.
Dudley would remain a strong preference - in terms of his age, potential and possibly more feasible too.
I trust the management, whether they bring more in or not.
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Dudley is a 1 in 4 goalscorer in games over the last few years. Not what we need imo.
Have seen him a couple of times this season and he's good but not good enough. Again imo. Plus he's just signed a new contract I think.
If we're going to get a player in temporarily for the rest of the season, perhaps a loan from higher up would be better (but nearer 24 than 34!).
And not someone who's had a lot of time out with injury.
We don't know what's going on in the background but I'm sure this will be being worked on.
Like you, I have complete faith and trust in PP and the management and I think if no one comes in it's because it's not possible rather than any other reason.
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What’s the point in bringing in temporary players? To achieve a play off spot? If not, there’s absolutely no reason to do it, waste of time and money. No relegation plus could possible upset the squad and then what happens when they’ve gone? They’ve been furloughed so won’t be available anyway.
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What’s the point in bringing in temporary players? To achieve a play off spot? If not, there’s absolutely no reason to do it, waste of time and money. No relegation plus could possible upset the squad and then what happens when they’ve gone? They’ve been furloughed so won’t be available anyway.
My thoughts exactly. Obviously our forwards are naff but I don't see the point in this at all.
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I agree too. I would put the odds of promotion at 1 in 200 right now. Waste of money getting anyone in unless they can be signed up for next season AND warrant the investment.
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What’s the point in bringing in temporary players? To achieve a play off spot? If not, there’s absolutely no reason to do it, waste of time and money. No relegation plus could possible upset the squad and then what happens when they’ve gone? They’ve been furloughed so won’t be available anyway.
My thoughts exactly. Obviously our forwards are naff but I don't see the point in this at all.
Because you could bring in someone we want for both this and next season, cheaply.
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What’s the point in bringing in temporary players? To achieve a play off spot? If not, there’s absolutely no reason to do it, waste of time and money. No relegation plus could possible upset the squad and then what happens when they’ve gone? They’ve been furloughed so won’t be available anyway.
My thoughts exactly. Obviously our forwards are naff but I don't see the point in this at all.
Because you could bring in someone we want for both this and next season, cheaply.
But we're talking about signing a player on loan for this season, not next season.
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What’s the point in bringing in temporary players? To achieve a play off spot? If not, there’s absolutely no reason to do it, waste of time and money. No relegation plus could possible upset the squad and then what happens when they’ve gone? They’ve been furloughed so won’t be available anyway.
My thoughts exactly. Obviously our forwards are naff but I don't see the point in this at all.
Aye. Use the war chest if you're actually in the trenches.
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What’s the point in bringing in temporary players? To achieve a play off spot? If not, there’s absolutely no reason to do it, waste of time and money. No relegation plus could possible upset the squad and then what happens when they’ve gone? They’ve been furloughed so won’t be available anyway.
My thoughts exactly. Obviously our forwards are naff but I don't see the point in this at all.
Aye. Use the war chest if you're actually in the trenches.
Parky and Sorvs have always been willing to dip into the market if the right player becomes available - and I'm sure that's still the case, with one eye on next season too. If the right player doesn't come up, then so be it.
Like I say, I think this thread might look a bit silly in a few weeks.
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What’s the point in bringing in temporary players? To achieve a play off spot? If not, there’s absolutely no reason to do it, waste of time and money. No relegation plus could possible upset the squad and then what happens when they’ve gone? They’ve been furloughed so won’t be available anyway.
My thoughts exactly. Obviously our forwards are naff but I don't see the point in this at all.
Aye. Use the war chest if you're actually in the trenches.
Parky and Sorvs have always been willing to dip into the market if the right player becomes available - and I'm sure that's still the case, with one eye on next season too. If the right player doesn't come up, then so be it.
Like I say, I think this thread might look a bit silly in a few weeks.
Smith came in on-loan because he wasn't getting football; he became a signing and one-less signing to make in the Summer.
Players are looking for security. Finishing 21st or 14th will make recruitment a lot easier in the summer. A part-time, midtable is an easier sell-in to an agent than falling from 4th to 20th.
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What’s the point in bringing in temporary players? To achieve a play off spot? If not, there’s absolutely no reason to do it, waste of time and money. No relegation plus could possible upset the squad and then what happens when they’ve gone? They’ve been furloughed so won’t be available anyway.
My thoughts exactly. Obviously our forwards are naff but I don't see the point in this at all.
Aye. Use the war chest if you're actually in the trenches.
Parky and Sorvs have always been willing to dip into the market if the right player becomes available - and I'm sure that's still the case, with one eye on next season too. If the right player doesn't come up, then so be it.
Like I say, I think this thread might look a bit silly in a few weeks.
Smith came in on-loan because he wasn't getting football; he became a signing and one-less signing to make in the Summer.
Players are looking for security. Finishing 21st or 14th will make recruitment a lot easier in the summer. A part-time, midtable is an easier sell-in to an agent than falling from 4th to 20th.
Or seeing what Parkie, Sorvs etc al have done with the club and how we have attracted EFL players might just make them see the potential
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Do we know where Chris Senior and Jordan Hulme are these days ?
Could be worth a punt ?
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What’s the point in bringing in temporary players? To achieve a play off spot? If not, there’s absolutely no reason to do it, waste of time and money. No relegation plus could possible upset the squad and then what happens when they’ve gone? They’ve been furloughed so won’t be available anyway.
My thoughts exactly. Obviously our forwards are naff but I don't see the point in this at all.
Because you could bring in someone we want for both this and next season, cheaply.
So we wouldn’t be looking at Hulme then!
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What’s the point in bringing in temporary players? To achieve a play off spot? If not, there’s absolutely no reason to do it, waste of time and money. No relegation plus could possible upset the squad and then what happens when they’ve gone? They’ve been furloughed so won’t be available anyway.
My thoughts exactly. Obviously our forwards are naff but I don't see the point in this at all.
Because you could bring in someone we want for both this and next season, cheaply.
So we wouldn’t be looking at Hulme then!
Cheap in comparison to signing them over the summer.
Smash and grab