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Title: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on February 26, 2021, 12:19:50 PM
Really need to come away with something. Bit obvious to say but if we dont concede a soft goal and convert 1of the good chances we will create, we'll probably win!

Hampson in for white, malarkey in for Sutton.

No idea who should start up top and perm any 3 from 6 behind.

Bromley 0-1 Alty (fek knows)
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on February 26, 2021, 01:37:17 PM
No idea who is fit.

Start Piggott.

Hampson for White.

Hoping for good news on Hanks, Colclough and Mooney.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on February 26, 2021, 02:31:19 PM
x 2
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on February 26, 2021, 02:48:46 PM
I do hope we get something positive from the game, we need to be more clinical up front and stay alert at the back. Do that and we've got a good chance of a good result. Like others hope Hampo, hanks and Colclough back.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Inter Alty! on February 26, 2021, 08:58:06 PM
Not sure who's fit for three behind main striker... guess Kosylo will defo start joined by Hancock & Mooney if fit... if one not fit the guess Ceesay will start... assume Colclough still out...

Rest of team assume will include Connor for White & the rest as expected...

The main issue is striker... doubt Piggott or Hardy fit enough to start (match fit)... Peers or Harrison may have to start, though would prefer a better option... need to get Piggott & Hardy match fit ASAP so either can start...

Predict Team...

TT
Senior
Mullarkey
Hannigan
Connor

Moult
Smith

Kosylo
Hancock
Mooney

Peers

Subs- Dens, Sutton, Ceesay, Piggott, Hardy...

Predicted score: Bromley 0-2 Alty (Hannigan, Kosylo)...

COYR!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on February 26, 2021, 09:08:07 PM
I would like to see Piggott start and have a good 60 mins then let Ceesay run at them for the last 30 mins.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Inter Alty! on February 27, 2021, 02:21:46 PM
HARDY STARTS!   Williams on bench...

Confirmed Team...

TT
Senior
Hannigan
Sutton
Connor

Moult
Smith

Kosylo
Hardy
Ceesay

Harrison

Subs- Dens, Mullarkey, Williams, Richman, Peers

COYR!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on February 27, 2021, 02:29:08 PM
Yep, probably the best team we have available at the moment. Great to see Willo back. Has Joe left?
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Inter Alty! on February 27, 2021, 02:43:07 PM
Assume no Piggott as guess Parky doesn't want to risk two players in squad who maybe aint fully matchfit for 90mins if starting one of them (ie Hardy, who guess maybe subbed after 60-70mins)... also guess Peers on bench (no matter what people think of him)... great to see Willo back...

NB would be good to get injury update at some point from Club as no news on Hancock (back issue), Mooney, Colclough, Piggott, etc... anyway, lets hope for a win today... COYR!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on February 27, 2021, 03:10:53 PM
Got a sneaky feeling that it's going to be a very long afternoon 🙄😕
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on February 27, 2021, 03:21:08 PM
Who can score for us? Mooney? Colclough? Hancock? Not playing. Hope they prove me wrong but I can't see many goals here.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Nom de plume on February 27, 2021, 03:55:00 PM
Is Harrison there so he can change a wheel on the coach if it gets a puncture? It can't be for any football-related reason.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyRobin on February 27, 2021, 04:04:18 PM
Sloppy defensive display again costing us dearly. This one is finished at half time. Shake it up at the back. Densmore and Gould to start on Tuesday please.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on February 27, 2021, 04:05:25 PM
People got excited when Harrison controlled and retained the ball a couple of times. Did nothing with it.
He is poor, way off and we need a CB.
Sutton looks overweight and Malarkey needs to learn.
For me we need to go for Leather.
And if PP continues to think Harrison or even Peers are good enough then I am losing faith in him for the first time.
Badly missing Hancock, Colclough and Mooney and need a bloody update on them.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on February 27, 2021, 04:32:31 PM
Sutton is not a bad player. I can only think that the injuries he has sustained this season have taken their toll.

Harrison is utter tosh. In fact, I'd play without a 9 if he is the best we can do.

Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Thomas H on February 27, 2021, 05:00:25 PM
Beaten by a much more physical and organised team with a proper striker.
Side to side footy against teams like that seems a waste.
Another Reality check.
Onwards to next game
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on February 27, 2021, 05:28:01 PM
We can't defend set pieces, and we have no goal threat. If games were won in the middle third we'd be world beaters. Kosylo is becoming a liability. Maybe we'll see the back of the utterly useless Harrison if he eventually gets through his audition for the lead role in "The Invisible Man". Not surprised, but disappointed nonetheless.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Inter Alty! on February 27, 2021, 05:36:52 PM
Gutted, 5th defeat on run... big BIG game coming up Tues...

Need to shake it up with formation &/or in defence... plus need to get some players back fit... again we ask for injury update...

Missing Hancock, Mooney, Colclough, plus conceding too many early goals &/or 'silly' ones... time for some changes in defence... also need to sort out striker role, especially if play loan striker option infront of attacking three behind... maybe Piggott or Hardy will be answer when fully fit, but don't think Harrison, Peers, Adarbioyo are answer as can't seem to score & never look like will being prolific 20-25goal scorer we need... as i say, Parky needs to make some changes...

Roll on Tuesday, we go again... in Parky we Trust...
Come on lads... fight for the shirt... COYR!

Woking at home feels like must win now to change our fortunes & get another run going... despite us being 7pts above Woking we've played 5games more; so in reality they're similar to us in form as both won just 1 of last 6 & PPG (Points Per Game) has Alty (in 16th) on 1.27 to Woking (17th) 1.24...

Roll on Tue eve... it'll be a BIG game to watch &i  hope Parky finds his inner Baldrick & comes up with a 'cunning plan'!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: GolfRoader on February 27, 2021, 05:41:03 PM
Kosylo is one of our most creative outlets with everything running through him..no idea what anyone would mean saying he's a liability. Smith and Hardy were both standout players today as well.

Harrison was very poor, I agree with the majority here and I'd rather start Peers over him on Tuesday. Ridiculous to say you could lose faith in Phil in any way but clearly he's tried to rectify a situation and it hasn't worked this time with Harrison, it happens. Besides, he obviously thinks Piggott is the long term solution but as he isn't fit yet there isn't much he can do is there?

Bromley were a decent outfit but we're giving away too many cheap goals at the moment and don't have anyone to get on the end of our attacking phases of play.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on February 27, 2021, 06:54:24 PM
Again, I'm going to appeal for calm.

Like with White the other day, I think the criticism of Sutton is a bit unfair - and Kosylo, ridiculous quite frankly. The commentary team summed it up pretty well, we knock it nicely side to side but Bromley know when to go long, they can switch it up and I think that's an experience thing as much as anything. We seemed to get most joy from getting to the byelines and cutting back, but they defended well for the most part - we didn't. Nobody should be scoring a back post header from a corner like that.

'Reality Check' summed up by the two forwards, Cheek and Duffus, being absolute units that make you realise why players like Jordan stay in regional leagues.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on February 27, 2021, 07:03:20 PM
Bromley managed the game well. We were toothless. Yet again their commentary team didn't have to mention Harrison. Cheek and Duffas would have been happy playing against up all day. Just the extra level of physicality carried the day.

I think Kosylo could turn in to a liability. He very much wears his heart on his sleeve but only about 50% of his trickery comes off. I don't know what went wrong at Halifax and Fylde but I wouldn't be suprised to find out there were dressing room issues in the end. Hopefully, Parky can keep his head together for a bit longer and then if we start winning again the situation won't arise.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on February 27, 2021, 07:12:42 PM
Bromley managed the game well. We were toothless. Yet again their commentary team didn't have to mention Harrison. Cheek and Duffas would have been happy playing against up all day. Just the extra level of physicality carried the day.

I think Kosylo could turn in to a liability. He very much wears his heart on his sleeve but only about 50% of his trickery comes off. I don't know what went wrong at Halifax and Fylde but I wouldn't be suprised to find out there were dressing room issues in the end. Hopefully, Parky can keep his head together for a bit longer and then if we start winning again the situation won't arise.



I think that was Kosylo's 10th booking of the season to date this afternoon.

The cameras also seemed to pick up signs of a fracas/frank exchange of opinions in the tunnel at half-time in which he appeared to be involved.

I've generally enjoyed what he has brought to the team on the pitch, however his end product can be frustrating (as illustrated by the good chance that he blazed over the bar in the first half) and he did seem to run down a lot of blind alleys this afternoon.
 

Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on February 27, 2021, 07:25:57 PM


Lots of possession but minimal penetration, all exacerbated by some unimpressive defending.

I do fear that some teams have rather worked us out. Bromley seemed content to let us have plenty of the ball, whilst being safe in the knowledge both that (i) we would spend the majority of the time indulging in lateral passing and (ii) our goal threat from our nominal striker was non-existent.

But for some decent saves by Thompson, that scoreline could have been far more painful.

As for the lamentable Harrison, that's now a total of 477 minutes into his Alty career without a goal.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on February 27, 2021, 07:28:56 PM
I think it's utterly ridiculous we're turning on Kosylo.

Our Sinnott teams were far too soft, it's great to see players with a bit of heart - you just have to take the rough with the smooth, I'd rather have that than a wet blanket.

Interestingly I started a FM21 save with Alty the other day, he already dislikes me  :P
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: TheGolfRoadView on February 27, 2021, 07:30:14 PM
Always hard to say whether or not there is harmony in the dressing room. In a way it wouldn't be a surprise if there wasn't a bit of an issue given the big turnover in players in the squad in the last 6 months and players getting use to each other. This is compared of course to a mostly settled squad for the previous 3 seasons where there always seemed to be a brilliant team spirit, though when you're mainly winning games that always helps.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyRobin on February 27, 2021, 08:21:12 PM
I think it's utterly ridiculous we're turning on Kosylo.

Our Sinnott teams were far too soft, it's great to see players with a bit of heart - you just have to take the rough with the smooth, I'd rather have that than a wet blanket.

Interestingly I started a FM21 save with Alty the other day, he already dislikes me  :P

It’s not that ridiculous, his discipline is terrible. He won’t be able to affect the Woking game if he’s suspended. Seem to remember him getting hooked at HT at Halifax because he’d lost his head too
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on February 27, 2021, 08:21:24 PM
i find Kosylo extremely frustrating but he brings a lot to the team.

No problem with Sutton but id have Malarkey before him

We lost 5 on the spin but been outplayed once (yeovil)

Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: JD on February 27, 2021, 08:31:17 PM
i find Kosylo extremely frustrating but he brings a lot to the team.

No problem with Sutton but id have Malarkey before him

We lost 5 on the spin but been outplayed once (yeovil)

More sensible posts like this please!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on February 27, 2021, 08:39:19 PM
i find Kosylo extremely frustrating but he brings a lot to the team.

No problem with Sutton but id have Malarkey before him

We lost 5 on the spin but been outplayed once (yeovil)



I have to say that I thought that we were outplayed today.

Contrast just how many saves Thompson was called upon to make with how largely untroubled their goalkeeper was. Plus Cheek missed a great chance to complete his hat-trick when he headed wide from close range.

Agree with you regarding Mullarkey though.

Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on February 27, 2021, 09:16:50 PM
i find Kosylo extremely frustrating but he brings a lot to the team.

No problem with Sutton but id have Malarkey before him

We lost 5 on the spin but been outplayed once (yeovil)

More sensible posts like this please!

Good post. We just need a better end product from Kosylo, similar to JJ but has better close control and movement.

If we aren't going for a striker and if Piggott isn't going to start then I would hope Mooney and Colclough are close to return and play Ceesay up top.

Yes he isn't a striker, but would have far more impact than Harrison, who is becoming as bad as Fis.

I agree, I would start Malarkey over Sutton, far more mobile.

We need an injury update this week and to hopefully drop the passengers.

If everyone gets back fit then we need a good clear out.

A fit Piggott, otherwise Ceesey then Hanks for no.9. Fis, Harrison and Peers should not be near the starting 11.

Maybe keep Peers as a squad player but the other two need to be off the wage bill.

Their career statistics say it all, very poor.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on February 27, 2021, 09:18:36 PM
We were outplayed today. At 1 0 down I thought we were still going to batter them but their goalie had a very comfortable game. Their blocking of our attempts was excellent.

The result was fair in my opinion. Extremely disappointing and frustrating, but fair.

Kosylo is streets ahead of JJ. At least you know Kosy is heading for the goal and he can take a corner
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on February 27, 2021, 09:43:26 PM
We played some very nice football today, but Bromley scored an early goal and managed the game very well, after having a shock when we equalised. I think I recall the same from the game at Moss Lane, apart from the equaliser.

Matty Kosylo could benefit from calming down somewhat, true, but, setting that against his assets, he is definitely a positive for the team, and has been one of our best players this season. The problem is more that we clearly miss something up front, where, as I have said before, Byron Harrison is clearly a decent player but doesn't gel with our team or formation. A fit Piggott or Ceesay could offer more there, as has been said.

In other good news, I thought James Hardy played well today, and the Bromley stream and presentation was excellent, even if it, understandably, failed to catch the incident for the sending-off.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: JD on February 27, 2021, 09:49:31 PM
i find Kosylo extremely frustrating but he brings a lot to the team.

No problem with Sutton but id have Malarkey before him

We lost 5 on the spin but been outplayed once (yeovil)

More sensible posts like this please!

Good post. We just need a better end product from Kosylo, similar to JJ but has better close control and movement.

If we aren't going for a striker and if Piggott isn't going to start then I would hope Mooney and Colclough are close to return and play Ceesay up top.

Yes he isn't a striker, but would have far more impact than Harrison, who is becoming as bad as Fis.

I agree, I would start Malarkey over Sutton, far more mobile.

We need an injury update this week and to hopefully drop the passengers.

If everyone gets back fit then we need a good clear out.

A fit Piggott, otherwise Ceesey then Hanks for no.9. Fis, Harrison and Peers should not be near the starting 11.

Maybe keep Peers as a squad player but the other two need to be off the wage bill.

Their career statistics say it all, very poor.

There is an issue with this at the moment - a moral issue. normally you can release players to play for another club and it would likely be a p/t club in a league below. Could we, in all integrity, release players to nothing - especially any that might be on a contract?

It is a tough time at the moment and (most) clubs are trying to help each other (i.e. for players on loan at clubs in lower leagues allowing them to not pay for any unused loan) so things like this make life difficult for a club with a high moral compass and care and concern for the players.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on February 27, 2021, 09:54:11 PM
We played some very nice football today, but Bromley scored an early goal and managed the game very well, after having a shock when we equalised. I think I recall the same from the game at Moss Lane, apart from the equaliser.

Matty Kosylo could benefit from calming down somewhat, true, but, setting that against his assets, he is definitely a positive for the team, and has been one of our best players this season. The problem is more that we clearly miss something up front, where, as I have said before, Byron Harrison is clearly a decent player but doesn't gel with our team or formation. A fit Piggott or Ceesay could offer more there, as has been said.

In other good news, I thought James Hardy played well today, and the Bromley stream and presentation was excellent, even if it, understandably, failed to catch the incident for the sending-off.

Sorry to disagree but apart from one good season with Barrow ...what makes Harrison a 'clearly ' decent player?
I must be going blind.
Honest to god at 40 I would be more than confident I would have had more touches in the minute's he's played. Not saying I would have done anything with those touches but he hasn't.
Done absolutely F all.
It is absolute nonsense that will keep us losing games through no end product.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on February 27, 2021, 09:58:08 PM
i find Kosylo extremely frustrating but he brings a lot to the team.

No problem with Sutton but id have Malarkey before him

We lost 5 on the spin but been outplayed once (yeovil)

More sensible posts like this please!

Good post. We just need a better end product from Kosylo, similar to JJ but has better close control and movement.

If we aren't going for a striker and if Piggott isn't going to start then I would hope Mooney and Colclough are close to return and play Ceesay up top.

Yes he isn't a striker, but would have far more impact than Harrison, who is becoming as bad as Fis.

I agree, I would start Malarkey over Sutton, far more mobile.

We need an injury update this week and to hopefully drop the passengers.

If everyone gets back fit then we need a good clear out.

A fit Piggott, otherwise Ceesey then Hanks for no.9. Fis, Harrison and Peers should not be near the starting 11.

Maybe keep Peers as a squad player but the other two need to be off the wage bill.

Their career statistics say it all, very poor.

There is an issue with this at the moment - a moral issue. normally you can release players to play for another club and it would likely be a p/t club in a league below. Could we, in all integrity, release players to nothing - especially any that might be on a contract?

It is a tough time at the moment and (most) clubs are trying to help each other (i.e. for players on loan at clubs in lower leagues allowing them to not pay for any unused loan) so things like this make life difficult for a club with a high moral compass and care and concern for the players.

Football isn't a charity, we've been there before and carried so many players, former players becoming manager's with no experience etc and it well and truly bit us on the arse.
OK, don't release them, but certainly don't bloody play them.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on February 27, 2021, 10:35:36 PM
We played some very nice football today, but Bromley scored an early goal and managed the game very well, after having a shock when we equalised. I think I recall the same from the game at Moss Lane, apart from the equaliser.

Matty Kosylo could benefit from calming down somewhat, true, but, setting that against his assets, he is definitely a positive for the team, and has been one of our best players this season. The problem is more that we clearly miss something up front, where, as I have said before, Byron Harrison is clearly a decent player but doesn't gel with our team or formation. A fit Piggott or Ceesay could offer more there, as has been said.

In other good news, I thought James Hardy played well today, and the Bromley stream and presentation was excellent, even if it, understandably, failed to catch the incident for the sending-off.

Sorry to disagree but apart from one good season with Barrow ...what makes Harrison a 'clearly ' decent player?
I must be going blind.
Honest to god at 40 I would be more than confident I would have had more touches in the minute's he's played. Not saying I would have done anything with those touches but he hasn't.
Done absolutely F all.
It is absolute nonsense that will keep us losing games through no end product.

The way he holds up the ball to work with a non-existent strike partner, As I say, he doesn't seem to fit our formation.

He also had a decent Football League career, reaching League One,  and scored 29 goals one season for Ashford Town (Middlesex).


Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on February 27, 2021, 11:21:04 PM
A couple points on Harrison. Yes, he did score a hatful for Ashford - 12 years ago, and two levels lower down the pyramid.

Yes, he did play in the League, but his strike rate had noticeably dropped after leaving Cheltenham in 2015.

Yes, he did average a goal every alternate game for Barrow at this level - but, again, his strike rate fell away as time passed.

The fact is he'd scored 1 goal in 49 games over the previous two seasons before he came to us. He'll be 34 in June, and I seriously believe that he's way past his best. I can't honestly see him ever scoring a goal at this level again.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on February 28, 2021, 08:36:35 AM
Simon Richman (I believe) has a better strike record over 10 years
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on February 28, 2021, 11:51:34 AM
A couple points on Harrison. Yes, he did score a hatful for Ashford - 12 years ago, and two levels lower down the pyramid.

Yes, he did play in the League, but his strike rate had noticeably dropped after leaving Cheltenham in 2015.

Yes, he did average a goal every alternate game for Barrow at this level - but, again, his strike rate fell away as time passed.

The fact is he'd scored 1 goal in 49 games over the previous two seasons before he came to us. He'll be 34 in June, and I seriously believe that he's way past his best. I can't honestly see him ever scoring a goal at this level again.
A single goal in 49 games is some CV. I’m amazed by that. Amazed he scored a goal. I trust in PPs judgement but I’m seriously thinking there’s a prolific striker somewhere else who is also called Byrom Harrison.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on February 28, 2021, 06:00:00 PM
A couple points on Harrison. Yes, he did score a hatful for Ashford - 12 years ago, and two levels lower down the pyramid.

Yes, he did play in the League, but his strike rate had noticeably dropped after leaving Cheltenham in 2015.

Yes, he did average a goal every alternate game for Barrow at this level - but, again, his strike rate fell away as time passed.

The fact is he'd scored 1 goal in 49 games over the previous two seasons before he came to us. He'll be 34 in June, and I seriously believe that he's way past his best. I can't honestly see him ever scoring a goal at this level again.
A single goal in 49 games is some CV. I’m amazed by that. Amazed he scored a goal. I trust in PPs judgement but I’m seriously thinking there’s a prolific striker somewhere else who is also called Byrom Harrison.

LOL!