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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Altyrocket on February 14, 2021, 09:19:02 AM
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http://www.doverathletic.com/news/club-statement-11/
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I think its a disgrace, i understand that we want our clubs to continue but Dover clearly had issues at the end of last year. All this looks like to me is they know the vote will be to continue so they are trying to force a closure. I guess we'll lose 3pts soon
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I'm not entirely sure they can just choose to furlough their staff, surely the furlough scheme is there for when businesses have been forced to close?
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They are this year's Canvey Island, Grays Athletic, Scarborough etc... we've seen it all before, sadly.
Covid will have made their situation much worse, but who knows how viable and solvent they would have been going forward anyway.
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If it goes to each of the three leagues voting on their own destiny, I don't understand why those clubs in the National who don't want to continue can't just have their results expunged and the rest play each other home and away to decide positions.
After all there will be no relegation and I would guess no more than half a dozen would choose to go with Dover's example.
We'd get the season done quicker too as, if six clubs did drop out, it would make a 32 match season.
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I'm not entirely sure they can just choose to furlough their staff, surely the furlough scheme is there for when businesses have been forced to close?
Chesterfield have furloughed some players.
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nothing wrong with grays,they were are biggest supporters when the forest green chairman got us relegated.grays chairman even offered to pay for a lawyer for us .
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Very true hsmith, but when aforementioned chairman got fed up and no longer wished to fund them, their model was no longer sustainable and they dropped out of the National Legaue and into obscurity. It looks to be a similar situation with Dover, they can't continue at this level it seems, with or without covid.
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If it goes to each of the three leagues voting on their own destiny, I don't understand why those clubs in the National who don't want to continue can't just have their results expunged and the rest play each other home and away to decide positions.
After all there will be no relegation and I would guess no more than half a dozen would choose to go with Dover's example.
We'd get the season done quicker too as, if six clubs did drop out, it would make a 32 match season.
I like this idea. Only the strong survive - and that includes us.
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Thinking further, if the teams who drop out want to be at this level next season, they should have to prove financial stability, otherwise clubs from the North/South division who can prove their viability get their places. Let's see how many want to "do a Dover" under those circumstances.
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Think that's a step too far to get adopted! 😉
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The only other club in our division I have heard suggesting similar to Dover are King's Lynn Town, who said they should be allowed to drop out if the league continues, but they haven't unilaterally decided to cease operations as Dover Athletic have done.
I like the idea of those clubs who want to continue being able to do so, while those who do not are allowed to suspend operations, with no other punishment apart from being liable for relegation - if several clubs decided to stop, it would be awkward to work out who should be relegated as the timing of suspension could be manipulated to get the best result on PPG.
There is an oddity at step 2 where most clubs in National South appear to want to play on, while the opposite is true in National North where even our "friends" at Chester in second place want to stop, probably because they were signing players on expensive contracts before their money man disappeared; however, if resolution 1 is passed, I read the vote as being over step 2 as a whole, not for each division to chose its own future.
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nothing wrong with grays,they were are biggest supporters when the forest green chairman got us relegated.grays chairman even offered to pay for a lawyer for us .
Well remembered. They showed their true colours over that.
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Chester cannot take loans, its in the rules of the club, therefore can only accept grants. Which they obviously did when the season started. Also they have players play for free (apparently).
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Chester cannot take loans, its in the rules of the club, therefore can only accept grants. Which they obviously did when the season started. Also they have players play for free (apparently).
True, I have heard that before, as well as some players playing for free. They were also prepared to accept Stuart Murphy's money before his attempted takeover during the first lockdown.
Back on the more general topic, grants are supposedly still available for clubs facing possible extinction.
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I'm not entirely sure they can just choose to furlough their staff, surely the furlough scheme is there for when businesses have been forced to close?
Its to prevent job lose when the business in unable to trade or provide them sufficient hours.
Nothing to stop FT clubs furloughing them 35 hours a week and playing for 5
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Not only are loans available but they have said if they open their books and are unable to repay they will be converted to grants. Too many clubs unwilling to share their books i think
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Possibly correct. There's also the issue of how long it takes for the money to come through.
I think there are a lot of clubs out there who have their own reasons for wanting null and void but are hiding behind alternative legitimised reasons.
The idea of furloughing players and fielding a scratch team is unfair to those clubs that have already played that club. The integrity of the league is compromised.