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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: oneedham on January 27, 2021, 02:24:10 PM
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I know it is an early thread but football is the only thing to talk about in the current climate.
Kossy, Colclough and Mooney are just too good not to start and with Ceesay likely to be back from his illlness he can be our impact sub.
We can give Torquay a good game.
TT
Senior
Marlarkey
Hannigan
Hampson
Moult
Smith
Kossy
Colclough
Mooney
Hancock ( number 9 )
Subs - Ceesay, Sutton, White, Peers & Richman
If they have quick CM's then maybe consider Malarkey as DM with Smith and Sutton in at CB.
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This game has already been postponed due to Torquay's involvement in the Trophy (see '6th Feb' thread).
Hopefully we can change the title to 'Kings Lynn' or similar, given there will be teams available that day.
I do agree with the Hancock thing - his goals this season have been No9 goals, and with Kozzy as a more than capable No10 we could be lethal.
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Soz guys. He aint no number 9! SBL
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This game has already been postponed due to Torquay's involvement in the Trophy (see '6th Feb' thread).
Hopefully we can change the title to 'Kings Lynn' or similar, given there will be teams available that day.
I do agree with the Hancock thing - his goals this season have been No9 goals, and with Kozzy as a more than capable No10 we could be lethal.
And then rearranged for Feb 2nd, meaning it is indeed our next fixture.
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This game has already been postponed due to Torquay's involvement in the Trophy (see '6th Feb' thread).
Hopefully we can change the title to 'Kings Lynn' or similar, given there will be teams available that day.
I do agree with the Hancock thing - his goals this season have been No9 goals, and with Kozzy as a more than capable No10 we could be lethal.
And then rearranged for Feb 2nd, meaning it is indeed our next fixture.
Apologies, just seen the update. As you were then... ;)
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Soz guys. He aint no number 9! SBL
I think he'd be a fabulous number 9, SBL - but you'd know better than me ;) does he not fancy it? He's a cracking No10 too, by the way... :)
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Can't we just play without a 9 like City? ;D
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Can't we just play without a 9 like City? ;D
We already do when Peers and Harrison play.
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Can't we just play without a 9 like City? ;D
We already do when Peers and Harrison play.
Do you not think Harrison held the ball up well last night?
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Can't we just play without a 9 like City? ;D
We already do when Peers and Harrison play.
Do you not think Harrison held the ball up well last night?
Granted. It’s when he faces the goal we’re aiming to score at he worries me.
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Harrison gave everything he had last night. You could see that PP was delighted with his contribution.
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Can't we just play without a 9 like City? ;D
We already do when Peers and Harrison play.
Do you not think Harrison held the ball up well last night?
Granted. It’s when he faces the goal we’re aiming to score at he worries me.
If he holds it up and brings the other top 4/5 players into the play in the last third he'll do for me
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Can't we just play without a 9 like City? ;D
We already do when Peers and Harrison play.
Do you not think Harrison held the ball up well last night?
Granted. It’s when he faces the goal we’re aiming to score at he worries me.
If he holds it up and brings the other top 4/5 players into the play in the last third he'll do for me
But for me we need Colclough, Hancock, Kossy and Mooney on the pitch. We would be far more dangerous with their quality.
Hanks best position is number 10 but as above his goals have been what you expect from a number 9.
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Not a fan of square in round holes, so I'd been starting Harrison until a)Injury, b)has an absolute sh*tter
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Not a fan of square in round holes, so I'd been starting Harrison until a)Injury, b)has an absolute sh*tter
I hear you but Harrison is far from prolific and because we've not had much up top since Jordan left, people are getting excited because he held the ball up a couple of times.
I personally feel we would score more with those 4 starting or even Ceesay up top until we get the right man.
Can't justify someone like Colclough or Mooney sat on the bench for Harrison.
We basically need the next Walshaw in this team.
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Must say I'm a bit surprised that nobody has asked where Chris Senior is at the moment. 😄
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Right, let's give new players a few games before deciding they're irredeemably terrible. Remember the flak Tony Thompson got when he first joined? What about Nicky Clee? Oneneedham, you were on Harrison's case before you even saw him play! You don't have to have one player you constantly advocate for dropping, you know.
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The main site. See you next tuesday. Is that no longer a way of saying c**t?
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Right, let's give new players a few games before deciding they're irredeemably terrible. Remember the flak Tony Thompson got when he first joined? What about Nicky Clee? Oneneedham, you were on Harrison's case before you even saw him play! You don't have to have one player you constantly advocate for dropping, you know.
Barnet away each side of half time. First effort body shape didn’t resemble a strikers instinct and he let the defender get across him. The one just after half time was embarrassing. Kosylo put it on a plate. Appalling first touch but still had chance to bungle the ball in with a modicum of athleticism but chose to try and hold off the attacker who was behind him. I can spot a footballer. This guy ain’t one at this level. I rated Nicky Clee the first time I saw him play. He had balance and could look up when he was running with the ball. To compare Harrison after a few games and Nicky Clee after a similar number of games is ludicrous. Barnet fans will fill anybody in about Harrison’s pros and cons. to endorse the opinion I have formed about him from what I have seen. I’ve picked a bit up since I saw my first professional football game 62 years ago. Be better off playing Simon Richmond or Saun Densmore up front.
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Well that's gone right over your head. Analysing one of his early performances to counter the argument we should give him more than a handful of games before writing off doesn't really make sense. Look, he's played, what, three games for us and already showed improvement. Personally, I trust the judgement of that guy who's got us to 4th in the conference over the forum that lost its mind when Lawrence Taylor did some short passing.
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It's very unfortunate that Byron Harrison made a bad mistake - and there is no doubt that it was a very bad miss - in his first start at Barnet, and that dominated any thoughts about his performance in that match. However, he played well enough in the preceding and following matches.
In effect, as he is on a short-term deal, he's on a trial (I am sure Phil Parkinson said the only way we can test potential new signings is to play them), and I have seen enough to say he's worthy of a further look, but not enough yet to say we should sign him on a longer term deal. He comes from London; is he still based there, does anyone know?
Sitting on the fence, I know...
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Well that's gone right over your head. Analysing one of his early performances to counter the argument we should give him more than a handful of games before writing off doesn't really make sense. Look, he's played, what, three games for us and already showed improvement. Personally, I trust the judgement of that guy who's got us to 4th in the conference over the forum that lost its mind when Lawrence Taylor did some short passing.
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Exactly! Maybe these decisions are better left with Parkie.
I thought Harrison showed good positional sense and no little grit on Tuesday.
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Well that's gone right over your head. Analysing one of his early performances to counter the argument we should give him more than a handful of games before writing off doesn't really make sense. Look, he's played, what, three games for us and already showed improvement. Personally, I trust the judgement of that guy who's got us to 4th in the conference over the forum that lost its mind when Lawrence Taylor did some short passing.
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Exactly! Maybe these decisions are better left with Parkie.
I thought Harrison showed good positional sense and no little grit on Tuesday.
I'm not claiming to pick the team but giving a personal opinion (surely the purpose of a fans forum). PP is in charge. We can all, with your permission of course, put our two penneth in. We all have an opinion even if some topics go over some of our heads. I will aspire to reach your heady heights one day sir. In the meantime I will content myself in being in awe of your superior and unchallenged standpoint. COYR.
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I thought Byron Harrison's 70-or-so minutes on Tuesday night were one of the better performances put in by our cohort of strikers this season. Evident in how often Josh Hancock looked much more like Josh Hancock.
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I thought Byron Harrison's 70-or-so minutes on Tuesday night were one of the better performances put in by our cohort of strikers this season. Evident in how often Josh Hancock looked much more like Josh Hancock.
Andrew, I'd agree, thought he showed some good potential. If he can grab a goal his confidence will really increase.
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I know it sounds daft, but taking a consensus from another fanbase is never usually very far off.
A couple of sets of fans from Harrison's former employers have expressed surprise he still gets a Conference gig, however I'd back Phil to get a tune out of him more than anyone else, and if it means we have a viable short-term option then so be it.
For me Hancock has been taking up the poacher positions someone like Peers should have been - I think that's why there's clamours to try him there, particularly given we now have players more than capable of being effective number 10s in his absence, which wasn't previously the case.
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I saw a game against Wrexham (3-2 2015?) and watched a ball into Perry's feet and a ball around the corner to men bombing on.
For me, that's what we need. Unfortunately, I don't feel Harrison or Peers are able to play the 2nd ball. Michael Rankine or Perry could.
It's not about a big player; it's about ball retention.
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The telling thing for me was that Bryan didn't mention Harrison until the Wealdstone game was about 20 minutes old.
Perhaps he was doing great things off the ball that I didn't notice.
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I noticed when Harrison was taken off on Tuesday how PP greeted him with a big smile in a congratulatory way - clearly PP was happy with what he'd done on the night. In PP we trust.
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Right, let's give new players a few games before deciding they're irredeemably terrible. Remember the flak Tony Thompson got when he first joined? What about Nicky Clee? Oneneedham, you were on Harrison's case before you even saw him play! You don't have to have one player you constantly advocate for dropping, you know.
Not sure when I was Harrison case before he played? I admit I had a strong opinion about Fis and where is he now?
Harrison is much better but he is far from what we need. He showed no grit and didn't want the ball to him.
My opinion is we would be a much better team for quality and more threatening wih Kossy, Colclough, Hanks and Mooney. Football is a discussion but I am quite confident Harrison will not end up being our number 9 long term so play your strongest eleven.
Those 4 are a level or two above Harrison, so personally would love to see them all play together.
I think Ceesay would be more dangerous than Harrison and I reckon even Colclough, out of position, would do a better job, he can shift the ball out of his feet and has a great strike.
I have in the past criticised TT but he has stepped up, made up that he is proving me wrong. His kicking has been absolutely brilliant this season.
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IMO in Ryan Colclough we have a player worthy and capable of playing in the Championship. SBL
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IMO in Ryan Colclough we have a player worthy and capable of playing in the Championship. SBL
This is the dilemma... I agree so Colclough and Kossy should always start but Mooney was very impressive on Tuesday and deserves a start.
Quality alone it would be criminal to have Colclough sat on the bench at any point so this is my whole point of starting the 4.
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It was definitely Mooney's best game for us - every time I looked, he had the ball! These are great dilemmas for the manager to have.
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I agree that those are our headline four players - not being harsh on Ceesay but he's a much more potent weapon off the bench than the others.
Judging by Kozzy's interview and the goals starting to come for Hanks, they seem to be gaining a good understanding - so why not try them as 9&10?
Throw in Colclough on the left and Mooney on the right, and I think the attack has a wonderful balance to it.
But we get to play manager on forums for a bit of fun, Phil knows what he's doing.
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I must admit it is fun that we see the same games yet often have different opinions: one of the joys of football.
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Back to discussing Torquay, hoping for a positive Parkinson display. Let's focus on our abilities and give it a good go.
A chance to benchmark ourselves against the most consistent side of the season, Solihull we gave 2 goal cushion to, Notts County we had half a sqaua fn gave them a head start. Stockport we more than matched.
Be pleased with a draw, delighted with a win.
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A lot hinges on how well we defend. They're on a run of 4 consecutive clean sheets, so we're going to have to be at the very top of our game to score.
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A lot hinges on how well we defend. They're on a run of 4 consecutive clean sheets, so we're going to have to be at the very top of our game to score.
Yep, were going to have to be at the top of our game to get a positive result. I think the lads and management are well up for this and looking forward to it.
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Tough as gets and being mid week doesn't help.
Same starting 11 as Wealdstone.
Torquay 1-0 Alty
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Nailed on 1-1
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Same start as last time. Joe P. on the bench. Score draw.
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Best of luck to the lads tonight. As others have said, great opportunity to see how we fare against the best side in the league.
I fully believe we are capable of the 'upset' this evening and we always play well with a point to prove, but I think we'll get Conferenced and fall short 1-0 despite a surge of late pressure and a few close chances.
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Ceesay up top.
Colclough and Piggott to come on around 65 mins.
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Free hit for the lads, quite frankly - which is when they usually do their best.
Looking forward to tuning in - and hopefully we'll get a glimpse of Piggott too (although surely he can't be match fit).
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Strong winds and rain now here in Devon
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If they are dead good it could be 3 or 4 1 like vs notts county. I suspect itll be close. If we can keep it 0 0 for first 20
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i think we can beat them
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I'd really like us to beat them with them acting all Billy Big Bollocks and not allowing in any of our media team or directors.
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I'd really like us to beat them with them acting all Billy Big Bollocks and not allowing in any of our media team or directors.
I assume we allow other clubs access to the JDS.
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7pm ko according to flash scores. is that right?
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7pm ko according to flash scores. is that right?
that's wrong, I'm sure it's 7:45
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7pm ko according to flash scores. is that right?
that's wrong, I'm sure it's 7:45
yeh, just looked at stream site and that say 7.45. sorry.
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Strangely, theres no thread about us on the Torquay forum. It's as though the game isn't happening
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I've got a sneaky feeling that they'll be wishing it hadn't been played at full time ⌚ 😏🇵🇪
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I can't see anything other than a defeat but I thought the same at Hartlepool, Wrexham and Stockport!
I agree that surviving the first 20 mins is crucial.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtPdxyBXYAIxtVH?format=jpg&name=large)
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We are going for it! Enjoy the game everyone ⚽️⚪🔴
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Fancy us to get a draw tonight. All this nonsense about not letting in media, directors to the ground is crap, but not surprising.
Torquay seem to be up their own arses.. not my fav club
Cmon Alty.
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interesting team we are putting out.
Ray they are a horrid little club and always have been.
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Strong winds and rain now here in Devon
Thanks Harold - it'll feel like a home game !
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stopped raining now though
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C'mon Alty.
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Commentators more than complimentary towards us again (although much of the time I think they just go off the current league table) - although they did suggest we were hybrid full-time and part-time which obviously isn't true.
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strong wind against us in the first half and driving rain,but who cares,we are winning
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we do not seem to fear anyone
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Half-time. Good stream, fair commentators and an excellent Alty performance. Torquay lucky to get away with a foul on the keeper when he dropped the ball from a corner and it ended up in the back of the net, but a great shot from Colclough put us 2-1 up just a couple of minutes later.
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This ref isn’t brilliant .. typical of a short arse.. has to be the centre of attention... He makes Connor look like a giant ..
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why was Jake sent off?
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That. Is. Superb.
Great result, really proud Robin tonight.
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Thanks Alty what a great result,just wish me and my mate could have been at Torquay
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Get in there, great result,😄
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why was Jake sent off?
He reacted to a shoulder from one of their players. He didn't physically touch him but the ref didn't like it. Ref was terrible for both teams
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Fantastic game, fantastic result, bizarre sending off. Hopefully that'll be dealt with on appeal. Where can this squad go?
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Message to the rest of the league:
FEAR US!
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Well I never ;D ;D
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Well, that was a real statement of intent. The Torquay players were as bemused as ours over the sending off. Again, everyone was brilliant. Bugger the play offs, can we actually win this bloody thing?
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We made them look clueless second half, just shows how well marshalles our defence was.
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why was Jake sent off?
He reacted to a shoulder from one of their players. He didn't physically touch him but the ref didn't like it. Ref was terrible for both teams
Jake probably should have known better getting involved on a booking with a fussy ref.
Ultimately though, what an amazing 3 points - we can beat everyone in this league. I wonder when people are going to start taking us seriously?
I quite enjoyed the commentators having a 'Stockport moment' with their lack of research on Colclough - they seemed pretty smug about Mooney being replaced, who had again looked dangerous. They absolutely had no idea.
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Fantastic game, fantastic result, bizarre sending off. Hopefully that'll be dealt with on appeal. Where can this squad go?
Onwards And Upwards mate, that’s where 😉
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I've got a sneaky feeling that they'll be wishing it hadn't been played at full time ⌚ 😏🇵🇪
I've never been happier to have been right!!!!
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Splendid response after conceding a dreadful goal. Thompson not quite at his best this evening, I thought.
Confident penalty by Hancock and a truly exquisite finish from Colclough.
In truth, the second half was a rather poor spectacle, punctuated by too many free kicks. Elated by the outcome, nonetheless.
You just knew that referee was going to be a pedantic and annoying attention seeker. Moult's second yellow card was somewhat perplexing.
I thought that the Torquay commentary team were pretty fair overall.
I remain convinced that Harrison is even more of a passenger than Iggy Pop though.
It's been a long time since we've looked so comfortable and accomplished in this division.
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Not sure we can appeal a second yellow unfortunately assuming that's what it was.
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Just glancing at the table, to see how we're doing with our first target of staying up. Eighteen points and a goodly sized goal difference clear!
Now then, these play offs I've not even contemplated yet...
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The commentators on the stream, who were excellent (apart from being unable to pronounce Kosylo), did warn us about the referee at one point; they should be more familiar with him as he is from Dorset.
I thought the first half was, from both teams, one of the very best halves I have seen this season, with Dan Mooney playing very well until his early injury - he had a fine replacement in the shape of Colclough, though. While the second half didn't match that, this was still a fantastic three points. Hopefully, there can be an appeal about the sending-off, as I thought it was a straight red actually, but I am not sure how much will be visible on the video - I was completely mystified watching it live.
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Jeepers. What a result. Game of 2 halves for both teams, both good 1st half but poor 2nd.
No idea why got an early bath but we'll miss him. Ref as poor as the weather.
Hope that Mooney isn't too serious. Did Hampson get withdrawn thro' injury or the yellow?
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Superb result against the league leaders. Great congrats to Parky Sorvs and the lads. The long journey home will be pretty sweet, what a team!
Hard to pick out individuals but Hanks was superb tonight, won the pen, converted it and then set up Ryan Colclough's fantastic winner.
Definitely need to have a look at Jake's dismissal as likely would get it over-turned. Looks like Jake was shoved in the chest then stopped, then ref showed red card, very odd. Both sides looked bemused by the ref.
Second half was scrappy, but pretty much left Torquay with very few chances and we could have had one or two more. Superb away performance!
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Not sure we can appeal a second yellow unfortunately assuming that's what it was.
Do we know for sure if it was a second yellow or straight red? BBC says second yellow but the commentators seemed to say the yellow was for a Torquay defender
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If anyone is still revelling in the win, like me, their manager is being interviewed on the livestream link as I type. Being very complimentary of us so far.
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This is exactly why I was so incredibly disappointed in the first 8 weeks of the season.
We signed the CM we needed, but more importantly we started playing our brand of football.
A wonderful performance.
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Splendid response after conceding a dreadful goal. Thompson not quite at his best this evening, I thought.
Confident penalty by Hancock and a truly exquisite finish from Colclough.
In truth, the second half was a rather poor spectacle, punctuated by too many free kicks. Elated by the outcome, nonetheless.
You just knew that referee was going to be a pedantic and annoying attention seeker. Moult's second yellow card was somewhat perplexing.
I thought that the Torquay commentary team were pretty fair overall.
I remain convinced that Harrison is even more of a passenger than Iggy Pop though.
It's been a long time since we've looked so comfortable and accomplished in this division.
Excellent summary. A textbook away display and with our subtle time wasting and seeing the game out in the second half you can see the development of the ‘Conferencing’ of our football since October. Referee you felt had an inexplicable red card in him, assuming it was two yellows I think we have to take the 1 game ban and move on. This team is incredible, surpassing all our expectations.
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Forty five mins on from ft. Still absolutely buzzing with that.
The difference PP and NS have made is remarkable, not only managed the players, tactics and games but have had to work with so many changes on the board.
Blimey. It's great supporting Alty!
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What ever happened to that V of D character who used to post on here? :P :P
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What ever happened to that V of D character who used to post on here? :P :P
He couldnt stand the positivity now ::) ;)
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This is exactly why I was so incredibly disappointed in the first 8 weeks of the season.
We signed the CM we needed, but more importantly we started playing our brand of football.
A wonderful performance.
And why people called for patience :)
Superb win. What a side this is.
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It might turn out to be not very long ago, but when was the last time Altrincham won away at top of the league?
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This is exactly why I was so incredibly disappointed in the first 8 weeks of the season.
We signed the CM we needed, but more importantly we started playing our brand of football.
A wonderful performance.
And why people called for patience :)
Superb win. What a side this is.
Matched with a growing board full of ideas, resources and skills.
I'm sat here shaking my head in disbelief, wow.
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Absolutely quality lads. This squad and management are a joy. We shouldn't fear anyone and what a finish from Colclough.
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As I mentioned the other day Ryan Colclough should be playing in the Championship. Absolute 100% quality . WOW What a 3 pointer! SBL
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This is exactly why I was so incredibly disappointed in the first 8 weeks of the season.
We signed the CM we needed, but more importantly we started playing our brand of football.
A wonderful performance.
And why people called for patience :)
Superb win. What a side this is.
We didn't need to be patient to drop Peers 👀
We u turned and started playing for football when Smith came, it was patience it was signing needed.
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That was a very assured performance, Smith - has a Zidane-esque calmness on the ball- and Hancock were excellent and the defence well organised. I think Hanks showed he could be a decent target man, he can hold up the ball and can lay it off well.
Two other random thoughts - I hope we never have seats behind one of the goals. Ridiculous, plastic, seats on one side of the pitch is enough - at all levels of football imo.
Kosylo- being a Polish/ eastern European name, I would be intrigued how you would actually pronounce it.
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Superb
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If anyone is still revelling in the win, like me, their manager is being interviewed on the livestream link as I type. Being very complimentary of us so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD8AeN60RPo
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Not sure I picked up on the compliments to be honest. No excuses apart from all the excuses he trotted out......
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We are now 8th in the "points per game" league table.
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This is exactly why I was so incredibly disappointed in the first 8 weeks of the season.
We signed the CM we needed, but more importantly we started playing our brand of football.
A wonderful performance.
You really shouldn't have been incredibly disappointed in the first 8 weeks of the season, as we did very well, apart from 2 below par performances at home against Solihull & Aldershot, & played our brand of football.
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I love the way their manager couldn't even say our name..do these "big clubs really underestimate us that mu h or are they not as good as they think they are? He made excuses and gave e back handed compliments..poor show...
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Gary Johnson is that, who's achieved some fantastic things in football (though I'm not sure if he's come up against us very much over the years).
Perhaps like many managers with a winning mentality he is a bad loser? Plenty of managers I suspect who would still be fuming the next day.
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He was manager of Cheltenham when Sam Heathcotes stoppage time goal on his debut saw us win 2-1. We then knocked his boy Led out of the FA Cup
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Gary Johnson was the Kettering Town manager when they defeated us at Moss Lane in the opening game of the 1995/96 season.
I distinctly recall a certain Brian Flynn being rather uncomplimentary about Mister Johnson from his vantage point in the main stand on that particular afternoon.
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This is exactly why I was so incredibly disappointed in the first 8 weeks of the season.
We signed the CM we needed, but more importantly we started playing our brand of football.
A wonderful performance.
And why people called for patience :)
Superb win. What a side this is.
We didn't need to be patient to drop Peers 👀
We u turned and started playing for football when Smith came, it was patience it was signing needed.
There’s more to it than dropping Tom Peers and I don’t believe football is 100% cause and effect, whereby you make a change or addition and that’s the one reason for the result. For me, the significant progress and success we’re seeing is more down to adaptation to the league and us beginning to believe in ourselves.
I say that because even in that first run of games we played good stuff at Notts County, Eastleigh, Hartlepool etc. The signs were always there that we were capable of competing at this level. We’ve looked outclassed once in 21 games, vs Solihull.
Sure, additions to the squad have helped that process. Alistair Smith has been a revelation. I’d say he’s turned a decent side into a good one. Hopefully the next time we have an uneasy run or start you’ll be more hesitant to jump on the manager’s back, as you were a few results away from calling him into question just a few months ago.
He more than deserved the time to find his reinforcements and keep instilling belief in the players. Here we are. We’re doing far better than I could ever have imagined (I just wanted to stay up this season) - let’s enjoy the ride.
Tepid. I hope Phill doesn't try and bother to pull the wool over fans eyes.
Poor all over the park. No striker incoming.
Relegation battle commences.
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Their managers advice TO THEIR PLAYERS take a day off, stay in bed or walk around the bay if you want! Bet our lads are choking over that one! Some folk have to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SBL
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This is exactly why I was so incredibly disappointed in the first 8 weeks of the season.
We signed the CM we needed, but more importantly we started playing our brand of football.
A wonderful performance.
And why people called for patience :)
Superb win. What a side this is.
We didn't need to be patient to drop Peers 👀
We u turned and started playing for football when Smith came, it was patience it was signing needed.
There’s more to it than dropping Tom Peers and I don’t believe football is 100% cause and effect, whereby you make a change or addition and that’s the one reason for the result. For me, the significant progress and success we’re seeing is more down to adaptation to the league and us beginning to believe in ourselves.
I say that because even in that first run of games we played good stuff at Notts County, Eastleigh, Hartlepool etc. The signs were always there that we were capable of competing at this level. We’ve looked outclassed once in 21 games, vs Solihull.
Sure, additions to the squad have helped that process. Alistair Smith has been a revelation. I’d say he’s turned a decent side into a good one. Hopefully the next time we have an uneasy run or start you’ll be more hesitant to jump on the manager’s back, as you were a few results away from calling him into question just a few months ago.
He more than deserved the time to find his reinforcements and keep instilling belief in the players. Here we are. We’re doing far better than I could ever have imagined (I just wanted to stay up this season) - let’s enjoy the ride.
Tepid. I hope Phill doesn't try and bother to pull the wool over fans eyes.
Poor all over the park. No striker incoming.
Relegation battle commences.
Well said Andrew.
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Apart from.being unable to name us that was an honest interview from his perspective. Focused on his team and it's weaknesses against us. Means nothing to me (though he really should be able to name the club he has spent days preparing his team to play).
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Well worth £9 last night, once we found our feet after 10 or so minutes we were the better team. No doubt difficult conditions to play in as well. Think they underestimated us, lack of respect by changing his line-up, brought the big guns on second half and they looked worse. To a man I thought we battled all over the park, snuffed them out second half and managed game well. Not sure why Moulty got a red, maybe dissent.
Thought Hanks took penalty superbly and Ryan's goal sublime. We should have had at least two more with Mooney hitting bar and the goal that was disallowed for??
Part time and to turn up after 6 hours on a coach and play as we did was tremendous effort by all in the squad, back room staff and directors. Cheered on by all of us at home watching or on RR.
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Well worth £9 last night, once we found our feet after 10 or so minutes we were the better team. No doubt difficult conditions to play in as well. Think they underestimated us, lack of respect by changing his line-up, brought the big guns on second half and they looked worse. To a man I thought we battled all over the park, snuffed them out second half and managed game well. Not sure why Moulty got a red, maybe dissent.
Thought Hanks took penalty superbly and Ryan's goal sublime. We should have had at least two more with Mooney hitting bar and the goal that was disallowed for??
Part time and to turn up after 6 hours on a coach and play as we did was tremendous effort by all in the squad, back room staff and directors. Cheered on by all of us at home watching or on RR.
One thing that's been noted is that both teams were good in the first half, and poor in the second. I have no doubt in my mind that we positively contributed to the game being the way it was in the second half, a huge difference between Parky teams and Sinnott teams is the game management - we can turn games ugly, run down the clock, take the sting out, influence the ref and generally make things a nightmare for the opposition in a way we rarely used to. We've started Conferencing teams ourselves.
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Superb effort against the league leaders. I thought the after match interview by the Alan Sugar lookalike was typical of a sore loser.
If his lads are looking jaded then God help them if they had to go to work this morning.
Anyway, 3 more points. No need to fear anyone in this league, just respect the opposition,
A sad day on the South Coast today
South Coast 1 North West 11
Onwards and Upwards. 😉
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This is exactly why I was so incredibly disappointed in the first 8 weeks of the season.
We signed the CM we needed, but more importantly we started playing our brand of football.
A wonderful performance.
And why people called for patience :)
Superb win. What a side this is.
We didn't need to be patient to drop Peers 👀
We u turned and started playing for football when Smith came, it was patience it was signing needed.
There’s more to it than dropping Tom Peers and I don’t believe football is 100% cause and effect, whereby you make a change or addition and that’s the one reason for the result. For me, the significant progress and success we’re seeing is more down to adaptation to the league and us beginning to believe in ourselves.
I say that because even in that first run of games we played good stuff at Notts County, Eastleigh, Hartlepool etc. The signs were always there that we were capable of competing at this level. We’ve looked outclassed once in 21 games, vs Solihull.
Sure, additions to the squad have helped that process. Alistair Smith has been a revelation. I’d say he’s turned a decent side into a good one. Hopefully the next time we have an uneasy run or start you’ll be more hesitant to jump on the manager’s back, as you were a few results away from calling him into question just a few months ago.
He more than deserved the time to find his reinforcements and keep instilling belief in the players. Here we are. We’re doing far better than I could ever have imagined (I just wanted to stay up this season) - let’s enjoy the ride.
Tepid. I hope Phill doesn't try and bother to pull the wool over fans eyes.
Poor all over the park. No striker incoming.
Relegation battle commences.
Football is about moments.
Last season, once the lads stopped sulking after conceding to Chester (Hampson mistake after 4 minutes), we had nothing to fear and kept the ball constantly moving.
Up until Chesterfield, the lads didn't look confident or believe they wanted to play for each other. Or in Phil style.
Chesterfield we went 1 nil down and kept passing through phases and it worked.
Moving Tom to the bench, statistically and aligned with the confidence of that performance, gave the players the belief to keep passing the ball.
My frustration through Phils tenure has been when we haven't stuck to that footballing style. Leamington, Matlock, Stockport (*5), Boston away.
Weve scored 15 goals from Midfielders and 5 from strikers, mainly because we've had to find a way, without those midfield goals, we'd be in trouble.
We also signed Smith, which was like signing 3 players as Moult was able to do his job, likewise Hancock could too. And not trying to force Tom to do 90 minutes.
Quote me 12 weeks later by all means, but I was right in Tom Peers shouldn't be starting, I was correct we needed reinforcement, and I was correct that this league was here for a good go at if we stopped sulking.
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Anyway, top performance. Hope Mooney is nothing serious. He looked like he'd be wound up for 6 hours on a coach. He was electric first 15.
Smith superb as always but MOTM Colclough who showed what he's here to do.
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Stats can be used to prove anything but there is one that is very impressive. I think that Alty have only conceded 2 goals in the last 20 minutes of games all season. Only Stockport at home resulted in points lost. Considering that more goals are scored in that period than any other it shows great mental strength, fitness and game management from a part time team.
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jakes sending off if i remember rightly their goalie got booked
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So we had an indifferent start to the season because we were 'sulking?' Do you actually believe that?! Do you not think it's more to do with us getting used to a new league? Surely that seems more reasonable?
Up until Chesterfield, the lads didn't look confident or believe they wanted to play for each other. Or in Phil style.
If you asked the players, I don't think any of them would say that's true.
It's also very easy to gloss over the horrendous injury problems we had during that time, too, and attribute our success purely to dropping Tom Peers etc. Maybe we've just managed to get key players back playing consistently, and we've probably gelled more as a team?
Completely agree about Smith. Finding him has changed our season from relatively comfortable in the bottom half to talking about sneaking the play-offs, such are the fine margins of this league though, so it could all go pear shaped yet.
We all knew that reinforcements were needed, but I will quote you twelve weeks on because it's not right that you get to say I told you so, when plenty of fans were patient in waiting for those reinforcements to come all along - rather than being overly critical of the best manager we've had in decades.
Just my opinion, but all I'm getting at is that in future I think a bit more time and respect should be afforded of the players, management team and 'the club' to get it right. As evident in where we currently are and how we're playing.
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Stats can be used to prove anything but there is one that is very impressive. I think that Alty have only conceded 2 goals in the last 20 minutes of games all season. Only Stockport at home resulted in points lost. Considering that more goals are scored in that period than any other it shows great mental strength, fitness and game management from a part time team.
I'll remember that next game when I'm getting worried about a late goal. :D
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So we had an indifferent start to the season because we were 'sulking?' Do you actually believe that?! Do you not think it's more to do with us getting used to a new league? Surely that seems more reasonable?
Up until Chesterfield, the lads didn't look confident or believe they wanted to play for each other. Or in Phil style.
If you asked the players, I don't think any of them would say that's true.
It's also very easy to gloss over the horrendous injury problems we had during that time, too, and attribute our success purely to dropping Tom Peers etc. Maybe we've just managed to get key players back playing consistently, and we've probably gelled more as a team?
Completely agree about Smith. Finding him has changed our season from relatively comfortable in the bottom half to talking about sneaking the play-offs, such are the fine margins of this league though, so it could all go pear shaped yet.
We all knew that reinforcements were needed, but I will quote you twelve weeks on because it's not right that you get to say I told you so, when plenty of fans were patient in waiting for those reinforcements to come all along - rather than being overly critical of the best manager we've had in decades.
Just my opinion, but all I'm getting at is that in future I think a bit more time and respect should be afforded of the players, management team and 'the club' to get it right. As evident in where we currently are and how we're playing.
Given the criticism my comments drew, I think I'm entitled to say I was proven correct - you'll find a lot of people who criticised me actually in the end agreed Peers not starting, and going out and signing players was proven correct.
I don't believe we "found our feet", we signed two footballer league midfielders, now 3 with Pig and didn't have to bring a reserve player on after 15 minutes.
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The higher we go, the better the players we can sign, and this fits the style of football Phil wants to play.
That's what makes each step up exiciting.
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So we had an indifferent start to the season because we were 'sulking?' Do you actually believe that?! Do you not think it's more to do with us getting used to a new league? Surely that seems more reasonable?
Up until Chesterfield, the lads didn't look confident or believe they wanted to play for each other. Or in Phil style.
If you asked the players, I don't think any of them would say that's true.
It's also very easy to gloss over the horrendous injury problems we had during that time, too, and attribute our success purely to dropping Tom Peers etc. Maybe we've just managed to get key players back playing consistently, and we've probably gelled more as a team?
Completely agree about Smith. Finding him has changed our season from relatively comfortable in the bottom half to talking about sneaking the play-offs, such are the fine margins of this league though, so it could all go pear shaped yet.
We all knew that reinforcements were needed, but I will quote you twelve weeks on because it's not right that you get to say I told you so, when plenty of fans were patient in waiting for those reinforcements to come all along - rather than being overly critical of the best manager we've had in decades.
Just my opinion, but all I'm getting at is that in future I think a bit more time and respect should be afforded of the players, management team and 'the club' to get it right. As evident in where we currently are and how we're playing.
Given the criticism my comments drew, I think I'm entitled to say I was proven correct - you'll find a lot of people who criticised me actually in the end agreed Peers not starting, and going out and signing players was proven correct.
I don't believe we "found our feet", we signed two footballer league midfielders, now 3 with Pig and didn't have to bring a reserve player on after 15 minutes.
If anyone has the right to say 'I told you so', it's those of us that appealed for calm and common sense after we'd just been knocked out of the Cup (to a good team and having not trained for a fortnight), when people were utterly losing their minds.
For me, we were competing in games - albeit probably showing the opposition a bit too much respect (not 'sulking' as you put it), I think once the lads realised they were a match for anyone then yes, of course things started kicking into gear.
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I think the sulking refers to when we go behind, more than anything. Stockport, Torquay, Sutton we were losing and earnt 5 points from losing position.
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Still, how good was Mooney before he got injured...wow
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What ever happened to that V of D character who used to post on here? :P :P
I am still here.
What a great victory last night.
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Still, how good was Mooney before he got injured...wow
Superb. The competition on the wings is breeding some great performances.
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It might turn out to be not very long ago, but when was the last time Altrincham won away at top of the league?
Here's a possible contender:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjgRHEjeX4o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjgRHEjeX4o)
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What ever happened to that V of D character who used to post on here? :P :P
He couldnt stand the positivity now ::) ;)
Well, his boyhood team is certainly providing him with an overdose of negativity!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55820931 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55820931)
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Gary Johnson was the Kettering Town manager when they defeated us at Moss Lane in the opening game of the 1995/96 season.
I distinctly recall a certain Brian Flynn being rather uncomplimentary about Mister Johnson from his vantage point in the main stand on that particular afternoon.
http://altyfans.co.uk/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif
I spoke to Mister Johnson about 90 minutes before the home game with Cheltenham in 2015 & asked him if he remembered his previous visit & was surprised by his reply which was "I can't remember coming here before".
When I told him that it was against Kettering in 1995/6 & that I remembered the game well, as I spent most of it haranguing him about his tactics from the back of the main stand, he was none the wiser, which really surprised me as it was the opening game of the season.
It was a consistent & prolonged verbal assault that drew a reaction on the day but clearly was forgotten very quickly. ;D
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Gary Johnson was the Kettering Town manager when they defeated us at Moss Lane in the opening game of the 1995/96 season.
I distinctly recall a certain Brian Flynn being rather uncomplimentary about Mister Johnson from his vantage point in the main stand on that particular afternoon.
http://altyfans.co.uk/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif
I spoke to Mister Johnson about 90 minutes before the home game with Cheltenham in 2015 & asked him if he remembered his previous visit & was surprised by his reply which was "I can't remember coming here before".
When I told him that it was against Kettering in 1995/6 & that I remembered the game well, as I spent most of it haranguing him about his tactics from the back of the main stand, he was none the wiser, which really surprised me as it was the opening game of the season.
It was a consistent & prolonged verbal assault that drew a reaction on the day but clearly was forgotten very quickly. ;D
Fondly remembered by those of us who were fortunate enough to listen to your first-rate vituperative onslaught though.
However, it still lives in the shadow of you getting under Dave Pace's skin at the Butcher's Arms on this dark and infamous night:
http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/020305dn.htm (http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/020305dn.htm)
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It might turn out to be not very long ago, but when was the last time Altrincham won away at top of the league?
Here's a possible contender:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjgRHEjeX4o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjgRHEjeX4o)
Thanks for that. I've never seen Aggborough before its redevelopment. That was the Alty team that dragged me back in just a few months later.
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Gary Johnson was the Kettering Town manager when they defeated us at Moss Lane in the opening game of the 1995/96 season.
I distinctly recall a certain Brian Flynn being rather uncomplimentary about Mister Johnson from his vantage point in the main stand on that particular afternoon.
http://altyfans.co.uk/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif
I spoke to Mister Johnson about 90 minutes before the home game with Cheltenham in 2015 & asked him if he remembered his previous visit & was surprised by his reply which was "I can't remember coming here before".
When I told him that it was against Kettering in 1995/6 & that I remembered the game well, as I spent most of it haranguing him about his tactics from the back of the main stand, he was none the wiser, which really surprised me as it was the opening game of the season.
It was a consistent & prolonged verbal assault that drew a reaction on the day but clearly was forgotten very quickly. ;D
Fondly remembered by those of us who were fortunate enough to listen to your first-rate vituperative onslaught though.
However, it still lives in the shadow of you getting under Dave Pace's skin at the Butcher's Arms on this dark and infamous night:
http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/020305dn.htm (http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/020305dn.htm)
Was it Brian who commented on that evening in a subsequent programme?
Whatever it was he said, I suspect it was fair comment. That pitch rivalled the floodlights at Bishop Auckland, the hail storm against Kiddermminster and a certain tackle on Marcus Hallows as the worst thing I've ever seen watching Alty.
The ground was so bad that. I asked someone in the social club if that pitch we could see through the windows was the ground. He said no, it's the training pitch. I half believed him. And when we walked straight across the pitch at full time rather than squeezing along the narrow path behind the goal, it seemed a perfectly natural thing to do rather than a pitch invasion.
Incidentally, that's what used to happen to us when we had a few injuries, and it is a tremendous credit to Phil Parkinson that he could keep things ticking over with up to ten players out this season. (Wasn't Hancock out of the first few games?)
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Gary Johnson was the Kettering Town manager when they defeated us at Moss Lane in the opening game of the 1995/96 season.
I distinctly recall a certain Brian Flynn being rather uncomplimentary about Mister Johnson from his vantage point in the main stand on that particular afternoon.
http://altyfans.co.uk/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif
I spoke to Mister Johnson about 90 minutes before the home game with Cheltenham in 2015 & asked him if he remembered his previous visit & was surprised by his reply which was "I can't remember coming here before".
When I told him that it was against Kettering in 1995/6 & that I remembered the game well, as I spent most of it haranguing him about his tactics from the back of the main stand, he was none the wiser, which really surprised me as it was the opening game of the season.
It was a consistent & prolonged verbal assault that drew a reaction on the day but clearly was forgotten very quickly. ;D
Fondly remembered by those of us who were fortunate enough to listen to your first-rate vituperative onslaught though.
However, it still lives in the shadow of you getting under Dave Pace's skin at the Butcher's Arms on this dark and infamous night:
http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/020305dn.htm (http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/020305dn.htm)
Was it Brian who commented on that evening in a subsequent programme?
Whatever it was he said, I suspect it was fair comment. That pitch rivalled the floodlights at Bishop Auckland, the hail storm against Kiddermminster and a certain tackle on Marcus Hallows as the worst thing I've ever seen watching Alty.
The ground was so bad that I asked someone in the social club if that pitch we could see through the windows was the ground. He said no, it's the training pitch. I half believed him. And when we walked straight across the pitch at full time rather than squeezing along the narrow path behind the goal, it seemed a perfectly natural thing to do rather than a pitch invasion.
Incidentally, that's what used to happen to us when we had a few injuries, and it is a tremendous credit to Phil Parkinson that he could keep things ticking over with up to ten players out this season. (Wasn't Hancock out of the first few games?)