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Title: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 31, 2020, 04:26:20 PM
Just seen the news that ex Alty Manager Tommy Docherty has passed away aged 92
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: Toff Apple on December 31, 2020, 04:36:20 PM
Never worked out, bad idea from the start but sad news
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on December 31, 2020, 05:00:57 PM


Undoubtedly one of football's great characters, however his bemusing appointment as Altrincham FC manager always seemed like some sort of bizarre publicity stunt.

Strange times, indeed!


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Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: Alty Dave on December 31, 2020, 05:28:36 PM
RIP Tommy, I remember him coming to the club in a blaze of publicity, it never worked out. I remember going to Droylsden or somewhere similar with a synthetic pitch and we were appalling, not long after he departed.
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on December 31, 2020, 05:33:32 PM

RIP Tommy, I remember him coming to the club in a blaze of publicity, it never worked out. I remember going to Droylsden or somewhere similar with a synthetic pitch and we were appalling, not long after he departed.



Saturday, 19th December 1987.

We scraped a 1-0 victory in an FA Trophy tie at Hyde United.

Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 31, 2020, 07:42:47 PM
He did, however, do one great business deal during his short stay. When he sold full back Paul Edwards to Crewe, he put a sell-on clause into the contract - not common back then - and when he subsequently moved on to Coventry City we received a tidy sum. £25K rings a bell.

He was a character. RIP Tommy.
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: Timperley The Best on December 31, 2020, 07:44:51 PM
RIP Doc
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: Sale Holmfield on December 31, 2020, 07:54:54 PM

RIP Tommy, I remember him coming to the club in a blaze of publicity, it never worked out. I remember going to Droylsden or somewhere similar with a synthetic pitch and we were appalling, not long after he departed.



Saturday, 19th December 1987.

We scraped a 1-0 victory in an FA Trophy tie at Hyde United.

We had signed Trevor Ross, once of Arsenal and Everton,  from Hyde just before that match, although he didn't play, probably as he wasn't signed in time, as he did play for us in a later round.

A couple of years later I worked with someone who knew Trevor Ross, and the latter had told him that "the Doc's" plan was for him to arrive in a helicopter and land on the artificial pitch before the match to be introduced to the away supporters. Not surprisingly, Hyde rejected this idea.

It was certainly one of the most unusual managerial reigns we have had - I can remember him still presenting his show on Piccadilly Radio before matches - but RIP to one of the great football characters.
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: distancetraveller on December 31, 2020, 11:17:29 PM
RIP Tommy
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: Leon on December 31, 2020, 11:22:47 PM

RIP Tommy, I remember him coming to the club in a blaze of publicity, it never worked out. I remember going to Droylsden or somewhere similar with a synthetic pitch and we were appalling, not long after he departed.



Saturday, 19th December 1987.

We scraped a 1-0 victory in an FA Trophy tie at Hyde United.

With the winner scored by the great John Timmons, whom we had signed from Hyde the previous summer. I watched that game from the main stand at Hyde and it was lively to say the least.
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: saffendalty on January 01, 2021, 06:46:27 AM
Was that the game they came at us chucking bricks? Remember running away in company with Ian Moss, who was so busy looking back at them he run into a stanchion. Happy days!
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: hsmith1 on January 01, 2021, 07:38:32 AM
RIP Tommy,condolences to his family
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: Brian Flynn on January 01, 2021, 09:48:08 AM
He did, however, do one great business deal during his short stay. When he sold full back Paul Edwards to Crewe, he put a sell-on clause into the contract - not common back then - and when he subsequently moved on to Coventry City we received a tidy sum. £25K rings a bell.

He was a character. RIP Tommy.

A good point. We had a 20% sell on clause & the transfer fee from Crewe to Coventry was £300,000-£350,000, therefore the amount that we received was £60,000-£70,000.
This was a significant event in the history of Altrincham Football Club as the transfer took place in March 1990 & the money received financed the acquisition of Ken McKenna & John Brady in May 1990. It was tax-efficient to spend as much of the money received from Coventry City as possible before the club's tax year end (May 31st).
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 01, 2021, 07:34:47 PM

RIP Tommy, I remember him coming to the club in a blaze of publicity, it never worked out. I remember going to Droylsden or somewhere similar with a synthetic pitch and we were appalling, not long after he departed.



Saturday, 19th December 1987.

We scraped a 1-0 victory in an FA Trophy tie at Hyde United.

With the winner scored by the great John Timmons, whom we had signed from Hyde the previous summer. I watched that game from the main stand at Hyde and it was lively to say the least.



Laurence,

I have distant memories of us winning that match courtesy of a late penalty scored by Mike Farrelly.

Flynny - can you help us out?

Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on January 01, 2021, 09:15:40 PM
I can't remember who it was against but in one of his first games, maybe even his first, we scraped a 1-0 win away and he gave 3 players their debuts - if memory serves Adrian Mann (who I think scored), Darren Heesom and another who's name escapes me.

I have a cassette tape somewhere with a recording off the radio of that pub meeting mentioned earlier - if I can find it I'll upload it.

Paul

A footnote for Alan Partridge fans - researching Adrian Mann on Google and it seems he may have played for Little Oakley over 50s team in recent years. I wonder if he knows Domingo? :D
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: Sale Holmfield on January 01, 2021, 09:27:30 PM
I can't remember who it was against but in one of his first games, maybe even his first, we scraped a 1-0 win away and he gave 3 players their debuts - if memory serves Adrian Mann (who I think scored), Darren Heesom and another who's name escapes me.

I have a cassette tape somewhere with a recording off the radio of that pub meeting mentioned earlier - if I can find it I'll upload it.

Paul

It was a few games into Docherty's spell in charge, and was away at Welling United where we won 1-0 through a Gary Stewart penalty. Jimmy Collins, Bobby Coy and Adrian Mann were the players who made their debuts, but they were all gone by the following month. Adrian Mann scored in the following match.

PS I also have Mick Farrelly scoring a penalty at Hyde later that season.
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on January 01, 2021, 09:51:54 PM
Must have been the following game because I've never been to Welling. Bobby Coy was the other new player to me.


It was a few games into Docherty's spell in charge, and was away at Welling United where we won 1-0 through a Gary Stewart penalty. Jimmy Collins, Bobby Coy and Adrian Mann were the players who made their debuts, but they were all gone by the following month. Adrian Mann scored in the following match.

PS I also have Mick Farrelly scoring a penalty at Hyde later that season.
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: Sale Holmfield on January 01, 2021, 10:00:25 PM
Must have been the following game because I've never been to Welling. Bobby Coy was the other new player to me.


It's funny how memory works and leaves certain things out. I could remember three players making their debut, and could remember Coy and Mann, but thought it was a  home game until I checked, and had completely forgotten Jimmy Collins, whose career lasted longer than the other two.
Title: Re: Tommy Docherty RIP
Post by: Leon on January 01, 2021, 10:53:59 PM

RIP Tommy, I remember him coming to the club in a blaze of publicity, it never worked out. I remember going to Droylsden or somewhere similar with a synthetic pitch and we were appalling, not long after he departed.



Saturday, 19th December 1987.

We scraped a 1-0 victory in an FA Trophy tie at Hyde United.

With the winner scored by the great John Timmons, whom we had signed from Hyde the previous summer. I watched that game from the main stand at Hyde and it was lively to say the least.



Laurence,

I have distant memories of us winning that match courtesy of a late penalty scored by Mike Farrelly.

Flynny - can you help us out?

Actually I think you're right - Timmons's contribution was to win the penalty with a sharp burst into the box. That's the bit I remember because a couple of Hyde fans were quick to tell us how lucky we were to have him. I don't remember who scored the pen but could well have been Farrelly.