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Title: Halifax Away
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 27, 2020, 12:24:14 AM
We appear to have a Female Referee at Halifax on Monday.

She holds a FIFA Badge
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on December 27, 2020, 06:36:52 PM
We appear to have a Female Referee at Halifax on Monday.

She holds a FIFA Badge

And???? This is noteworthy how exactly?
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: jhcorbett on December 27, 2020, 07:53:39 PM
We appear to have a Female Referee at Halifax on Monday.

She holds a FIFA Badge

And???? This is noteworthy how exactly?


I thought it was the start of a smutty rhyme
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: HashtagAlty on December 27, 2020, 08:39:34 PM
We appear to have a Female Referee at Halifax on Monday.

She holds a FIFA Badge

And???? This is noteworthy how exactly?

The fifa badge is a major achievement to be fair, only 2 woman in England and 7 men in the UK.
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: cheshire cat on December 27, 2020, 10:07:02 PM
We used to have a lady who ran the line. I hope she has progessed her career.
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: Saughall Robin on December 27, 2020, 10:19:17 PM
We appear to have a Female Referee at Halifax on Monday.

She holds a FIFA Badge

And???? This is noteworthy how exactly?

The fifa badge is a major achievement to be fair, only 2 woman in England and 7 men in the UK.

I've got over a dozen different Alty badges, isn't that just as good?
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 27, 2020, 10:59:40 PM
We appear to have a Female Referee at Halifax on Monday.

She holds a FIFA Badge

And???? This is noteworthy how exactly?

It was purely for information.

As mentioned elsewhere the possession of a FIFA badge is actually a significant achievement.

We have had a number of female assistants (and a couple of female referees) in the past. A number have progressed their careers.

Refereeing in NL National is only one step from the Football League middle.

All the above is also purely for information and some of you may consider it irrelevant
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: robininstockport on December 28, 2020, 04:48:26 PM
She can as many badges as she wants, she's massively inconsistent
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: Alty Bri on December 28, 2020, 05:01:28 PM
We were unlucky today and a draw would have been fair. I think that our full backs had an off day and Senior really struggled up against the brilliant Williams. Until we brought our substitutions on we didn't look a threat up top.

The ref, irrespective of gender, was out of her depth.

Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on December 28, 2020, 05:23:26 PM

It was purely for information.


Or bait perhaps?
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 28, 2020, 08:33:02 PM

It was purely for information.


Or bait perhaps?


Not at all.

I often post on a variety of fora about Referees, Women's Football and situations where the two coincide.

I think you are possibly being a smidgen over suspicious about my motivation
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 28, 2020, 08:44:49 PM
We were unlucky today and a draw would have been fair. I think that our full backs had an off day and Senior really struggled up against the brilliant Williams. Until we brought our substitutions on we didn't look a threat up top.

The ref, irrespective of gender, was out of her depth.

I am currently involved in a discussion on another forum about Rob Jones who had issues at the recent Leeds v Burnley fixture.
A number of people seem to opine that he ought not to be given any more SG1 appointments as they consider him out of his depth.

Whilst respecting your opinion how,  without more experience and more difficult appointments to challenge them further,  can officials be expected to improve or develop thereby, to expand on the swimming analogy, helping them to swim more successfully?
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: Leeds Leeds Alty on December 28, 2020, 10:33:50 PM
to be fair I thought she ran the game pretty well today.  The penalty shout was definitely ball to arm - but was travelling like a rocket -  and many refs wouldn't have given it for the same reasons, though I thought it should have been at least an indirect free kick as it broke the move up.

You could see that the Fax players - who were cheating cry babies and sneaky bastards - were trying to crowd her and intimidate her a couple of times and it was pretty nasty to watch - but she stood her ground well and handled a couple of tricky moments very professionally and with a lot of character.  She has my vote
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: cheshire cat on December 29, 2020, 09:41:41 AM
I think the ref did OK. She got plenty of plaudits from the Shaymen and I notice they thought we were appealing for everything. Just a case of one eyed fans I think.

Some interesting comments about Kosylo's behaviour at half time. Sounds like he was subbed to avoid a sending off in the second half.
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: HashtagAlty on December 29, 2020, 11:39:43 AM
I thought she was okay. She was probably a bit too the letter; we got a lot of freekicks our way against defenders/Moult which others would have let slide; the penalty against Tom and our penalty appeal I felt you have to give both.
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: rorysgrandad on December 29, 2020, 11:48:41 AM
I thought she was okay. She was probably a bit too the letter; we got a lot of freekicks our way against defenders/Moult which others would have let slide; the penalty against Tom and our penalty appeal I felt you have to give both.
agreed. If this had been a male ref we'd have been amazed by the lack of idiotic decisions. Thought she was by and large unnoticed, which is always a sign of a good ref. We have some proper male bonzos taking charge of games.
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: Nom de plume on December 29, 2020, 12:05:56 PM
Some interesting comments about Kosylo's behaviour at half time. Sounds like he was subbed to avoid a sending off in the second half.
As it is, I think he now has 5 yellows so will presumably miss one game soon.
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: CRT Butty on December 29, 2020, 04:11:26 PM
Bit surprised the shape of the refs genitalia are relevant to some. Glad that the vast majority of footy fans have moved on from 1975.
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 29, 2020, 06:22:29 PM
I thought she was okay. She was probably a bit too the letter; we got a lot of freekicks our way against defenders/Moult which others would have let slide; the penalty against Tom and our penalty appeal I felt you have to give both.

Totally agree about the two penalties. Inconsistency is my biggest gripe against match officials. Apart from that I thought she was reasonable.
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: distancetraveller on December 29, 2020, 07:46:33 PM
Refs in this league are much better (whatever Gender) than the complete and utter dross we were subjected to in the league below.
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: Sale Holmfield on December 29, 2020, 10:21:24 PM
Refs in this league are much better (whatever Gender) than the complete and utter dross we were subjected to in the league below.

That's quite a tribute to the refereeing system, as it means the best referees get promoted to the higher divisions.

They probably are better on average, but I am not convinced that the best referees always get promoted!

Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on December 30, 2020, 06:24:31 PM

I think you are possibly being a smidgen over suspicious about my motivation

Hmmm....

It's a bit like saying the CEO of the company I work for is a woman, shock horror, who'd have thought it? Pointless, unless looking for a particular type of response.

Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 31, 2020, 03:20:23 PM
No ulterior motive in my post.

Was merely advising that the Referee was one of the leading female referees in the Country if not Europe.
An official of similar rank and gender has Refereed a Champions League fixture this season
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: Brian Flynn on January 01, 2021, 10:11:42 AM
I was hoping that it may have been Helen Conley officiating on Monday, as she was outstanding when refereeing our 1-0 win at Farsley Celtic in January 2018.

I thought that Rebecca Welch was very poor on Monday.

On a completely unrelated note, she was very loud & could be heard quite clearly on a number of occasions at the back of the main stand on Monday, which is unusual even with games being played behind closed doors.
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: John Edwards on January 01, 2021, 10:57:04 AM
I'm with my co-press officer 100 per cent on this. I can't believe so many people have posted favourably about her. Like Brian, I thought she was very poor in general, and as for decision-making, you only had to look at an incident near the touchline in the Alty half of the pitch on the main stand side in the last few minutes. Billy Chadwick momentarily wrong-footed Harrison Holgate with a clever turn, so Holgate, realising he had been done and Chadwick was about to sprint clear, pretty much wrestled him to the ground. It wasn't only an obvious, quite blatant foul by Harrison, it had to be a straightforward yellow card, yet she gave the free-kick Alty's way. I couldn't believe my eyes..
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: Hale Alty on January 01, 2021, 03:52:02 PM
did you ask her why she had given the decision that way?
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: John Edwards on January 01, 2021, 04:14:49 PM
I didn't, actually. It wasn't exactly a game-changer, so there didn't seem much point. Might have been interesting, though - can't imagine what the explanation would have been!
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: Hale Alty on January 01, 2021, 07:10:56 PM
if refs gave press conferences we'd have a better understanding of how they see things, and they would have a better understanding of what we expect from them.
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 01, 2021, 07:16:29 PM
if refs gave press conferences we'd have a better understanding of how they see things, and they would have a better understanding of what we expect from them.

I often think that about wives / husbands
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 02, 2021, 12:07:55 AM
if refs gave press conferences we'd have a better understanding of how they see things, and they would have a better understanding of what we expect from them.

I often think that about wives / husbands

I always knew how my second wife saw things, and what she expected of me. She never quite had her expectations fulfilled.
Title: Re: Halifax Away
Post by: CRT Butty on January 03, 2021, 03:26:04 PM
if refs gave press conferences we'd have a better understanding of how they see things, and they would have a better understanding of what we expect from them.

I often think that about wives / husbands

I always knew how my second wife saw things, and what she expected of me. She never quite had her expectations fulfilled.

Proper slice of life that.