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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Inter Alty! on November 16, 2020, 09:52:49 AM
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Well, we go again on Tuesday... who knows if any of the walking wounded will be fit... so many injuries... doubt Parky will risk Hancock if didn't put him on from bench on Sat...
Despite being long way to go, we need a win on Tuesday to start building some confidence and moving up the table...
Chesterfield are on the same points as us, but have played a game less... they lost at home on Sat to Maidenhead 2-1...
Possible Team (depending on injuries)...
Thompson
Senior Sass-Davies Hannigan Hampson
Moult Robbins
Kosylo Smith Dales
McDonald
Subs: Gould, Dens, Miller, Peers, Adarabioyo...
Whoever plays, need a win... COYR!
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Really want to see McDonald starting tomorrow, was a shame we didn't see any of him on Saturday
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Really want to see McDonald starting tomorrow, was a shame we didn't see any of him on Saturday
He isn't going to drop Peers. Rightly or wrongly, he's our top scorer, poaching 2 goals.
I think he'll go:
Thompson
Senior Sass-Davies Hannigan Hampson
Moult Robbins
Kosylo Smith Dales
Peers
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Chesterfield have scored 11 goals and conceded the same. If we had some bite up front, their defence would be likely to concede. We haven't. They average more than a goal a game so I'd back them to score at some point. Let's hope that McDonald and Dales are the solution to our biggest problem.
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I still believe we need to somehow find a top quality & proven striker (even when all fit) but this is easier said than done when sell your top striker on eve of season & all good strikers at that point are probably under contract at clubs for forthcoming season...
However, in meantime, hopefully McDonald, Smith, & Dales will help us in the short term... Dales (along with Connor & Kosylo) was one of few who played well in last game... Smith & McDonald didn't have enough time on Saturday - hopefully all three will start or be involved tomorrow eve...
Hopefully we'll somehow find a team that gels tomorrow and get a win... then build from there...
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If we had a crowd I would hope we'd be able to have a new song...
"Old McDonald has a goal, E I E I O!"
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Well, we go again on Tuesday... who knows if any of the walking wounded will be fit... so many injuries... doubt Parky will risk Hancock if didn't put him on from bench on Sat...
Despite being long way to go, we need a win on Tuesday to start building some confidence and moving up the table...
Chesterfield are on the same points as us, but have played a game less... they lost at home on Sat to Maidenhead 2-1...
Possible Team (depending on injuries)...
Thompson
Senior Sass-Davies Hannigan Hampson
Moult Robbins
Kosylo Smith Dales
McDonald
Subs: Gould, Dens, Miller, Peers, Adarabioyo...
Whoever plays, need a win... COYR!
Above but Hanks for Smith if fit.
Gould for TT.
Defo need to start Macdonald, only genuine striker at the club.
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If we had a crowd I would hope we'd be able to have a new song...
"Old McDonald has a goal, E I E I O!"
I've never been more glad not to be at the games.
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Well, we go again on Tuesday... who knows if any of the walking wounded will be fit... so many injuries... doubt Parky will risk Hancock if didn't put him on from bench on Sat...
Despite being long way to go, we need a win on Tuesday to start building some confidence and moving up the table...
Chesterfield are on the same points as us, but have played a game less... they lost at home on Sat to Maidenhead 2-1...
Possible Team (depending on injuries)...
Thompson
Senior Sass-Davies Hannigan Hampson
Moult Robbins
Kosylo Smith Dales
McDonald
Subs: Gould, Dens, Miller, Peers, Adarabioyo...
Whoever plays, need a win... COYR!
Above but Hanks for Smith if fit.
Gould for TT.
Defo need to start Macdonald, only genuine striker at the club.
Yep, agree with all this.
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If we had a crowd I would hope we'd be able to have a new song...
"Old McDonald has a goal, E I E I O!"
I've never been more glad not to be at the games.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Thompson
Senior Sass-Davies Hannigan Hampson
Moult Robbins
Kosylo Smith Dales
McDonald
Subs: Gould, Dens, Miller, Peers, Adarabioyo...
This is how I see it. Both Gould and Miller must be pushing for a start though
Alty 2-1 Chesherfield (McDonald, Kosylo)
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Thompson
Senior Sass-Davies Hannigan Hampson
Moult Robbins
Kosylo Smith Dales
McDonald
Subs: Gould, Dens, Miller, Peers, Adarabioyo...
This is how I see it. Both Gould and Miller must be pushing for a start though
Alty 2-1 Chesherfield (McDonald, Kosylo)
Keep TT on his toes...
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1-0 rubbish game (but who cares) then its onward and upwards.
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Wind could be a factor again tomorrow. Should be dry though
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In tonight's match programme Sorvs says both Sutton & White could be in contention for the game this eve...
However, assume that means from the bench - no point risking them when Conor had such a good game last time out, and both Sass-Davies & Hannigan are sound (unless Hannigan's back issues play up again)...
COYR!
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Alty website's match preview for tonight's game...
Preview: Altrincham v Chesterfield | Altrincham Football Club
https://www.altrinchamfc.com/news/preview-altrincham-v-chesterfield
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Tonight's confirmed team via Alty Twitter...
TEAM:
TT
Dens
Sass-Davies
Hannigan
Hampson
Moult
Smith
Kosylo
Hancock
Dales
Adarabioyo
Subs:
Senior
Sutton
Miller
Robbins
McDonald
COYR!
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No Tom Peers tonight, not even on the bench. Presumably he’s injured?
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John Edwards a thousand times better than Mark Simpson.
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What a relief.
A nice birthday present for me!
A trifle fortunate to win that one, particularly as Chesterfield had by far the better opportunities during the second half. However, their defence never looked convincing.
That was Kosylo's best performance to date. Clever dummy in the build-up to Hancock's winning goal.
We never seemed to get to grips with their right wing back Cropper all evening though.
We may have just expedited the delivery of John Pemberton's P45 there.
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What a relief.
A nice birthday present for me!
A trifle fortunate to win that one, particularly as Chesterfield had by far the better opportunities during the second half. However, their defence never looked convincing.
We never seemed to get to grips with their right wing back Cropper all evening though.
We may have just expedited the delivery of John Pemberton's P45 there.
Happy birthday!
During the build up to our winner I was thinking that this is the Alty of last season - and lo and behold...!
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Huge 3 points and a great winning goal.
The standard was not great and we still looked shaky on crosses. Missing Toby.
Smith had a decent game, only concern is with him and Jake there is no pressing midfielder and against better teams that might be an issue.
Kosylo energy and close control is impressive. He was my MOTM. Dens, Hampson, BSD and Hancock also had decent games.
Happy for Fis that he scored but still far from impressed. Doesn't really win battles and ball control is poor.
3 points to build on. Get in boys.
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They allowed us to play. Nowhere near as physical as recent teams thank goodness.
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Well done to Parky and the lads on a well fought for (if bit lucky at times) 3 points.
Went behind early on again but kept creating stuff going forward, so we were always in the game.
TT made a couple of excellent last ditch saves and not sure how Hanks(?) managed to clear one off his own cross-bar, but we also had chances as well. Great to see Hanks back in the goals, the winner was a very well worked and finished off goal. Congrats to Fizzy as well for his decent finish for the first, after decent build up from Matty Kosylo.
We do need to stop giving the ball away as often as we do - against better teams we wouldn't have got away with a win, but delighted we did.
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Get in!!!!
Hampson has been my player of the season so far.
Was Phil not in the dugout tonight?
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HAMPSON,COULD BE A PLAYER WHO IS AT LEAST! CHAMPIONSHIP STANDARD............. TT F0R ENGLAND!!!!!!!!!! GOOD HALF HOUR FOR HANCOCK DESPIRE CRITICS!!!!!!!! SBL
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Big 3 points.
Both teams looked nervous but we were the ones trying to play football, they were just a sling it in the box kind of team, understandable if you’ve got Denton but I’d hate to watch that ‘style’ of football every week. The winner was a trademark Alty goal of the last 3 seasons, patient build up, passing to feet then a lovely little dummy & Hancock has clearly got his mojo at this level now. Also thought Dens came in & looked excellent tonight.
Chesterfield looked a very poor outfit to me. It’ll be a long season for them.
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Let's be honest, we were a bit lucky tonight but a win is a win and we haven't had much luck lately. We really missed Sutton's experience and Mullarky's height in that box. TT kept us in the game and their right back was superb. However, the stand out player for me was definitely Matty Kosylo. He's just such an exciting player to watch and he is always looking to make things happen. With a decent target man, Josh and Matty would be absolutely lethal. COYR
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Oh yes.
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Great to get a win & 3pts... up the table we go... :)
Maybe little fortunate to take all 3pts with late goal, but what a well worked winning goal... great pass by Dens, then the dummy, then the finish... excellent move...
Thought Kosylo, Dens, Connor, Josh, & TT all did well...
Roll on Saturday...
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Agree about the earlier point about Mark Simpson. Not the worst commentator, but think Brian Flynn is best being the main commentator and thought John Edwards did a good job as well
As for the game, think Chesterfield will count themselves unlucky to lose tonight, with the two TT saves in each half, didn't think it was a pen and the JH clearance against the bar. Overall didn't think there was a great deal between both teams. Thought we played some decent football at times, it was probably not a coincidence that it was the best weather so far for a home game, and interesting to see us continue to mix up our usual short passing game with long balls as well. Great to see us get the first home win and hopefully build on this at the weekend.
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As people have said earlier, there was a bit of fortune involved in winning, although that has gone against us too in earlier matches, as this happens over the season, even if it does not necessarily even out. Tight margins, but tonight's result is probably bad news for the continuation of John Pemberton's tenure.
It's certainly good to score a few goals in what I thought was a really entertaining game, with good performances from Hampson (again), Kosylo and Thompson, and it's an achievement actually to score a penalty for us, so that can be Josh Hancock's new job.
I am steeling myself now, just about to look at the Chesterfield forum.
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I am steeling myself now, just about to look at the Chesterfield forum.
It's full of vitriol and they haven't got anything good to say about us.
They did pick up on Bryan announcing it as a National North fixture.
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I am steeling myself now, just about to look at the Chesterfield forum.
It's full of vitriol and they haven't got anything good to say about us.
They did pick up on Bryan announcing it as a National North fixture.
I missed that, although I did hear a very downbeat interview with John Pemberton, which reminded me of Jim Harvey in his time with us,
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Obviously rode our luck, but considering the injury list and a starting line up with 3 loanees at match 9 an excellent result. As others have commented the manner of the winning goal was important, to prove to the players as much as anyone else, that we can play PP and NS's brand of football in this league. Just not all the time and against every team.
Anyway, just for the moment we're above Yeovil, Dagenham, Weymouth and Barnet with Macc not even in sight - just like (very) old times.
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Great win tonight and we played well. Great to see Josh Hancock showing us what he is well capable of.
Playing with no crowd is a pain in the arse whenever the ball goes into the stands and players are scrambling about trying to retrieve the ball.
My solution to this is ..... Can the club not assign a dozen eager fans to be ball boys each game? This would see them being gainfully employed as ball boys whilst watching the game (sticking to the COVID Protocols, Masks sanitiser etc).
A different dozen personnel each game would at least get a few folk to see at least one game during these extraordinary times we presently live in.
Just a thought...
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HAMPSON,COULD BE A PLAYER WHO IS AT LEAST! CHAMPIONSHIP STANDARD............. TT F0R ENGLAND!!!!!!!!!! GOOD HALF HOUR FOR HANCOCK DESPIRE CRITICS!!!!!!!! SBL
Chesterfield despired! ;) Sorry, couldn't resist it
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really good win tonight,i was watching dens he was making great runs pulling their player out of position,marshalling our defence. Very pleased for Josh.We were the better team in the first half,but they shaded the second,Thommo 1 world class save.The game felt very flat though,can we not have some chanting done over the loud speakers like they do in the top flight games,someone must know how to do it?
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Over many years of radio robins Mark is one of my favourite commentators. Don’t forget these guys are volunteers and don’t deserve criticism for their efforts. There are one or two RR guys that aren’t great but they have never been openly criticised on here or the radio robins chat and rightly so. By all means compliment your favourite or a good performance but lay off the volunteers!
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I am steeling myself now, just about to look at the Chesterfield forum.
It's full of vitriol and they haven't got anything good to say about us.
They did pick up on Bryan announcing it as a National North fixture.
I missed that, although I did hear a very downbeat interview with John Pemberton, which reminded me of Jim Harvey in his time with us,
Did he say they were poor? ☺
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Over many years of radio robins Mark is one of my favourite commentators. Don’t forget these guys are volunteers and don’t deserve criticism for their efforts. There are one or two RR guys that aren’t great but they have never been openly criticised on here or the radio robins chat and rightly so. By all means compliment your favourite or a good performance but lay off the volunteers!
We're all very appreciative of the effort the volunteers go to - but at the same time I think constructive criticism is good - after all, they should want to know why some people like myself found the commentary so unbearable that I had to mute it v Solihull and Aldershot.
I can see how it's easy to overthink commentary and it's the (albeit well-intentioned) quips and banter that just sounds bit goofy and doesn't land well with me, it starts grating after a while - call me old-fashioned, but I just want my commentators to be knowledgeable (as Mark is of course) and say it how they see it.
Last night was much more listenable - although watching on my mobile it kept on kicking me out, which was infuriating. I gave up after half an hour and just followed Twitter.
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Over many years of radio robins Mark is one of my favourite commentators. Don’t forget these guys are volunteers and don’t deserve criticism for their efforts. There are one or two RR guys that aren’t great but they have never been openly criticised on here or the radio robins chat and rightly so. By all means compliment your favourite or a good performance but lay off the volunteers!
We're all very appreciative of the effort the volunteers go to - but at the same time I think constructive criticism is good - after all, they should want to know why some people like myself found the commentary so unbearable that I had to mute it v Solihull and Aldershot.
I can see how it's easy to overthink commentary and it's the (albeit well-intentioned) quips and banter that just sounds bit goofy and doesn't land well with me, it starts grating after a while - call me old-fashioned, but I just want my commentators to be knowledgeable (as Mark is of course) and say it how they see it.
Last night was much more listenable - although watching on my mobile it kept on kicking me out, which was infuriating. I gave up after half an hour and just followed Twitter.
I've got total respect for anyone who volunteers to stick their neck out and do the commentaries, on the whole they do an excellent job.
Bear in mind though that the Alty TV live stream is a far more commercial package which people are ultimately paying for, it's inevitable that feedback is going to be more forthcoming than with Radio Robins. If somebody is paying a tenner a time or even hundreds of pounds over the season they are entitled to say if something isn't right.
It's worth remembering that this has all come about in a relatively short space of time through extraordinary circumstances. I daresay it's still a work in progress, with lots of learns along the way.
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I thought last night was the best stream we've had; as good as Wealdstone, which I felt set the standard of the overall package.
A lot of clubs media teams arent trained broadcasters and its a completely different skillset required.
Mark's commentary works for RR where the audience is no doubt pro-Alty and can't see what's going on. I agree the quips don't always land, but that's radio.
On TV, I much prefer Brian and John last night, Brian stopped the overhyping of players and John provided some great insight and knowledge.
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Thought Alty TV was excellent last night, quality and commentary were great.
Chuffed we got a home win, against full time direct footballers. Everyone gave 100%, you could see everyone wanted it. Will give us a huge lift in morale for going forwards. Were work in progress, and that we saw last night. Considering how different the team is to what finished the playoffs, its very positive.
Thommo made some excellent saves, Hanks was much improved on previous showings and bagged a brace.
Was parky there last night?
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Hanks back to his pomp last night. We played some good football in spells. Still work to do but a great and vital win. On to another tough assignment at boreham wood on Saturday
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Great win tonight and we played well. Great to see Josh Hancock showing us what he is well capable of.
Playing with no crowd is a pain in the arse whenever the ball goes into the stands and players are scrambling about trying to retrieve the ball.
My solution to this is ..... Can the club not assign a dozen eager fans to be ball boys each game? This would see them being gainfully employed as ball boys whilst watching the game (sticking to the COVID Protocols, Masks sanitiser etc).
A different dozen personnel each game would at least get a few folk to see at least one game during these extraordinary times we presently live in.
Just a thought...
I think they'd have to be tested. Someone on the commentary said media are amber zone and can't touch the ball?
The solution is probably to have non-squad players (walking wounded) placed around the ground and a supply of balls on the touch line ready to d.
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Two post match interviews
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08yt46h
Gone this lad... and sounds like he was in the full monty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ezNQd5Ux5Os
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Two post match interviews
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08yt46h
Gone this lad... and sounds like he was in the full monty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ezNQd5Ux5Os
Love one of the you tube comments about losing to a Sunday league team ;D
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Stream and commentary was excellent last night, equally as good as Solihull and Aldershot. Fantastic work everyone!
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I'd just like to say how much better I feel today after our win.
Three years of success had dimmed the memories of how gruelling our tumble down the leagues was for us all.
It's so good to be back at the top level of the pyramid (and not in the bottom three!)
Recommend that the lads all give themselves a big pat on the back for making this old fan (and I'm sure all the others) very happy!
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Great win tonight and we played well. Great to see Josh Hancock showing us what he is well capable of.
Playing with no crowd is a pain in the arse whenever the ball goes into the stands and players are scrambling about trying to retrieve the ball.
My solution to this is ..... Can the club not assign a dozen eager fans to be ball boys each game? This would see them being gainfully employed as ball boys whilst watching the game (sticking to the COVID Protocols, Masks sanitiser etc).
A different dozen personnel each game would at least get a few folk to see at least one game during these extraordinary times we presently live in.
Just a thought...
I think they'd have to be tested. Someone on the commentary said media are amber zone and can't touch the ball?
The solution is probably to have non-squad players (walking wounded) placed around the ground and a supply of balls on the touch line ready to d.
That's right. Anyone admitted into the amber zone (media, directors etc) cannot touch the ball if it goes out of play.
Stewards can though.
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But they have to take it to be sanitised
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really good win tonight,i was watching dens he was making great runs pulling their player out of position,marshalling our defence. Very pleased for Josh.We were the better team in the first half,but they shaded the second,Thommo 1 world class save.The game felt very flat though,can we not have some chanting done over the loud speakers like they do in the top flight games,someone must know how to do it?
Bloody good idea!
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Over many years of radio robins Mark is one of my favourite commentators. Don’t forget these guys are volunteers and don’t deserve criticism for their efforts. There are one or two RR guys that aren’t great but they have never been openly criticised on here or the radio robins chat and rightly so. By all means compliment your favourite or a good performance but lay off the volunteers!
Yes.
And they are all better than competent. Mark, I think, adds great character to the commentary (especially if that character is Tommy Saxondale!)
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I also think Mark Simpson is a very good commentator. Keeps up to speed well with the play, he adds a touch of quirky humour also. Does his homework on the away team too. All in all a good listen. We do have a pretty good commentary team all-in-all, in what can be a difficult job. They also bear in mind away team fans are also listening, which is more than can be said when we are the away side!