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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Hugh on September 11, 2020, 08:54:07 PM
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weather not withstanding of course! ;D
With the current situation and October 3rd only a few weeks away, I tend to think it will be option 5 - if we are lucky. There seem to be just too many forces ranged against a return to sanity, sadly. If we could only have some certainty on this matter, we need (almost) never mention this wretched "political" virus on here again. If only...
It would be good to know what plans, if any, are being made by the club and the league, FA etc. against each eventuality. Presumably any option (apart from the first) would be problematic in different ways for the club.
Of course other options are possible, but 6 is enough for now.
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Have locked this poll now, thanks to all those who participated.
Some interesting results, and let's hope the optimists are right!
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Have locked this poll now, thanks to all those who participated.
Some interesting results, and let's hope the optimists are right!
If you look at the facts and figures we have every right to be optimistic.
If you listen to the media and the governments we are struggling!
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;)
I was slightly surprised so many went for the first option (which I suspect we can rule out now).
Still, you always get lots of people betting on England to win the world cup. I hope they're (both) right of course - despite being born in Scotland!
Won't push my luck but hope to give regular updates on the ot section for anyone interested.. I think it could end up being a good thing for the forum if it was a little busier like Chester's.
I won't give up hope of that sold out playoff with Stockport quite yet. Live the dream! (not like Weymouth obviously!)
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With the season potentially being only a couple of weeks away someone somewhere needs to make a decision soon on whether matches go ahead or not. I understand that a month or so ago the league said no fans no matches however, with the spike in cases its beginning to look like a deferral may happen but will we be any the wiser next week? SBL
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With the season potentially being only a couple of weeks away someone somewhere needs to make a decision soon on whether matches go ahead or not. I understand that a month or so ago the league said no fans no matches however, with the spike in cases its beginning to look like a deferral may happen but will we be any the wiser next week? SBL
A spike in cases because of a very inaccurate testing system (Centre for Evidence based medicine) interpreted by a government in a hysterical flap.
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Don't worry, the test they'll use for "ten million tests a day" will be even more inaccurate! :)
It's a pity, things were looking so positive on Saturday with 1000 Boro supporters roaring their team on. Ah well, maybe in three to six months (even though the Centre for evidence based medicine has just demolished the case for further restrictions) - if there's enough teams left by then for a league season. Quite honestly, at this rate I think they may have to make ppv streaming only a viable option if they are to start this season at all.
(I have been trying with the ot forum, honest!)
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Don't worry, the test they'll use for "ten million tests a day" will be even more inaccurate! :)
It's a pity, things were looking so positive on Saturday with 1000 Boro supporters roaring their team on. Ah well, maybe in three to six months - if there's enough teams left by then for a league season. Quite honestly, at this rate I think they may have to make ppv streaming only a viable option if they are to start this season at all
I asked bt if I could pay to just watch any Alty games they had on. Not a chance,they were keen on flogging me a two year contract at £15 a month.
Happy to pay £10 a game for a few months, being a confident chappy I can see vaccines and the like in the spring.
Fingers crossed.
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Well - according to the Chester forum, they are actively investigating the possibility of streaming all their games. I don't know if it's different for the "GMVC", but I suspect their hand may be forced if the only viable way of starting the season is by allowing clubs to live stream their matches.
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Thought the CL had committed to no games played behind closed doors.
I know from a someone at one of the larger clubs that they can simply not afford to run their stadium without gate receipts. They have suffered massively already with no conferences, weddings and pop concerts over the summer. Missing out on Christmas parties could finish them
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So we appear to be faced with three options then:
The league change their mind on games behind closed doors if live streaming proves more profitable than thought (rather like Chester equivocating on the playoffs).
The league delays the start for weeks or months in the hope that something turns up (as Micawber might say).
The league cancel the season.
Of course if things turn out better than recent developments suggest, I suppose we might continue with the season as planned from October the third with spectators. But I really would have to get into politics and crackpot theories to expand on this! ;)
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Maybe Johnson should put a curfew on posts rather than pubs.
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We believe you.
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So we appear to be faced with three options then:
The league change their mind on games behind closed doors if live streaming proves more profitable than thought (rather like Chester equivocating on the playoffs).
The league delays the start for weeks or months in the hope that something turns up (as Micawber might say).
The league cancel the season.
Of course if things turn out better than recent developments suggest, I suppose we might continue with the season as planned from October the third with spectators. But I really would have to get into politics and crackpot theories to expand on this! ;)
FIrst option for me Although I'm guessing paying for testing could be a problem .
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54246745
won't be happening.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54246745
won't be happening.
Cannot see this happening at all this side of Christmas Some decisions
To be made by the National league.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54246745
won't be happening.
Cannot see this happening at all this side of Christmas Some decisions
To be made by the National league.
Your timescale sounds about right to me. Gloomy sporting outlook based on the last 24 hours.
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Looks like we’ll be playing pre-season friendlies behind closed doors for the next three months at least
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The clubs should start the season behind closed doors. And allowed to screen their matches live and keep the money they make.
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Alternatively scrap the season and the table decided in alphabetical order that would have us in the play offs at least ;D
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Alternatively scrap the season and the table decided in alphabetical order that would have us in the play offs at least ;D
With home advantage throughout! 😉
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Alternatively scrap the season and the table decided in alphabetical order that would have us in the play offs at least ;D
I like your logic.
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Just so unnecessary.
Witty and Vallance feed us bullsh*t figures - they said based on Spain and France where the death and case sets are plateauing, but turns out if so will be far less cases and deaths than their prediction, which they didn't call a prediction.
90% of positive tests are false (Oxford uni centre for EVIDENCE based medicine and 3 independent t studies in USA, Dr Mike Yeadon etc etc)
C19 deaths now just 1% of all deaths, flu is significantly higher
Daily C19 deaths about 20 out of 1500-1600 daily deaths.
Deaths and hospital admissions from respiratory illness s increase this time of year every year - this is no exception.
No evidence to say watching matches in open air stadia will make things worse (Fan Roan, BBC)
Just in this last week I have spoken to 3 ppl with friends/family that had C19 on their death certs.
1. Had long term COPD, but never diagnosed with C1o
2. Fied of old age (95) in a home with no cases of C19
3. Died in a motorbike accident.
Also spoke to worker from an NHS hospital: half empty and they are "Encouraged," to put deaths down as C19
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If the season does get put back or cancelled you would expect the playing staff will still need to be paid unless they had new contracts with Covid discounts involved , could potentially cost a fortune with no income for some clubs not necessarily Alty .
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Good old JD, copy/pasting his conspiracy nonsense across multiple threads now.
Have you forgotten about the off-topic thread created for you and Hugh?
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It seems to me that pay for view TV is the only way forward unless NL gets reclassified as non elite sport where these restrictions currently dont seem to apply ?
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It seems to me that pay for view TV is the only way forward unless NL gets reclassified as non elite sport where these restrictions currently dont seem to apply ?
I can't see much chance of that happening after the National League's appeal in June to be classed as 'elite' level football. You can't just change your mind if and when it suits unfortunately.
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It seems to me that pay for view TV is the only way forward unless NL gets reclassified as non elite sport where these restrictions currently dont seem to apply ?
Agree on PPV. It might work well as many teams would get more away fans paying to watch games on TV than turning up in person.
The definition of elite sport was widened to include NLN and NLS to facilitate playoffs so it's quite unlikely that the decision would be changed in the opposite direction. Whether the 5th tier of football should ever be considered elite is another matter entirely.
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WEYMOUTH chairman Ian White has cast doubt on the Terras' planned National League opener at Altrincham on Saturday, October 3rd.
https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/sport/18738625.terras-weymouths-ian-white-casts-doubt-altrincham-opener/ (https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/sport/18738625.terras-weymouths-ian-white-casts-doubt-altrincham-opener/)
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Good old JD, copy/pasting his conspiracy nonsense across multiple threads now.
Have you forgotten about the off-topic thread created for you and Hugh?
The stats are all from ONS! No conspiracy theories, just facts and the opinions of highly regarded scientists.
If you can't handle the truth...!
"But it will infuriate sports governing bodies that insist it is much safer for fans to be in highly regulated, socially-distanced often open-air venues and stadiums than watching on the TV in pubs for instance.
They are not aware of any data or research which proves the return of fans would increase transmission. And they point to the fact that countries like Germany are allowing thousands of fans back inside grounds."
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Good old JD, copy/pasting his conspiracy nonsense across multiple threads now.
Have you forgotten about the off-topic thread created for you and Hugh?
The stats are all from ONS! No conspiracy theories, just facts and the opinions of highly regarded scientists.
If you can't handle the truth...!
"But it will infuriate sports governing bodies that insist it is much safer for fans to be in highly regulated, socially-distanced often open-air venues and stadiums than watching on the TV in pubs for instance.
They are not aware of any data or research which proves the return of fans would increase transmission. And they point to the fact that countries like Germany are allowing thousands of fans back inside grounds."
There are other, equally respected scientists who take the opposite view and say the government should be doing more.
What's not open to dispute is that you are swamping what's meant to be a football forum with your 'here's what I reckon', amateur-hour epidemiology. Please stop it.
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Good old JD, copy/pasting his conspiracy nonsense across multiple threads now.
Have you forgotten about the off-topic thread created for you and Hugh?
The stats are all from ONS! No conspiracy theories, just facts and the opinions of highly regarded scientists.
If you can't handle the truth...!
"But it will infuriate sports governing bodies that insist it is much safer for fans to be in highly regulated, socially-distanced often open-air venues and stadiums than watching on the TV in pubs for instance.
They are not aware of any data or research which proves the return of fans would increase transmission. And they point to the fact that countries like Germany are allowing thousands of fans back inside grounds."
There are other, equally respected scientists who take the opposite view and say the government should be doing more.
What's not open to dispute is that you are swamping what's meant to be a football forum with your 'here's what I reckon', amateur-hour epidemiology. Please stop it.
Totally agree, that's what the link below is for...
http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=24827.0
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Good old JD, copy/pasting his conspiracy nonsense across multiple threads now.
Have you forgotten about the off-topic thread created for you and Hugh?
The stats are all from ONS! No conspiracy theories, just facts and the opinions of highly regarded scientists.
If you can't handle the truth...!
"But it will infuriate sports governing bodies that insist it is much safer for fans to be in highly regulated, socially-distanced often open-air venues and stadiums than watching on the TV in pubs for instance.
They are not aware of any data or research which proves the return of fans would increase transmission. And they point to the fact that countries like Germany are allowing thousands of fans back inside grounds."
There are other, equally respected scientists who take the opposite view and say the government should be doing more.
What's not open to dispute is that you are swamping what's meant to be a football forum with your 'here's what I reckon', amateur-hour epidemiology. Please stop it.
Not what "I reckon" what others are telling us
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Good old JD, copy/pasting his conspiracy nonsense across multiple threads now.
Have you forgotten about the off-topic thread created for you and Hugh?
The stats are all from ONS! No conspiracy theories, just facts and the opinions of highly regarded scientists.
If you can't handle the truth...!
"But it will infuriate sports governing bodies that insist it is much safer for fans to be in highly regulated, socially-distanced often open-air venues and stadiums than watching on the TV in pubs for instance.
They are not aware of any data or research which proves the return of fans would increase transmission. And they point to the fact that countries like Germany are allowing thousands of fans back inside grounds."
There are other, equally respected scientists who take the opposite view and say the government should be doing more.
What's not open to dispute is that you are swamping what's meant to be a football forum with your 'here's what I reckon', amateur-hour epidemiology. Please stop it.
Not what "I reckon" what others are telling us
I reckon you're on the wrong thread.
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Why don’t you two post on the COVID thread ffs it’s getting a bit of a bore now.
Things are what they are due to a virus NOT of any Governmental shenanigans.
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If we can have packed supermarkets going for months with no protection during the peak of the issue (no cases I know of in the company I work for with almost 500 branches) - and that is indoors, then the government has to realise that the risk, as was in Dan Roan's report, has to be lower.
Cos we cannot play without the fans!
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If we can have packed supermarkets going for months with no protection during the peak of the issue (no cases I know of in the company I work for with almost 500 branches) - and that is indoors, then the government has to realise that the risk, as was in Dan Roan's report, has to be lower.
Cos we cannot play without the fans!
Jesus please go away to the other thread you are becoming a pest now
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Sorry if it has already been posted, and I have missed it among all the OT nonsense, but the National League are having a board meeting on Thursday, after which we should have more idea of the plans for the new season. They have been adamant so far that the season would not start without fans, but, who knows, that might change, especially with televised fixtures already scheduled.
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Realistically there's little hope of fans in before the end of March - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54246745
Options.
A) Start on 3/10 with fans paying to see streamed games.
B) I can't see a viable plan B.
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Good old JD, copy/pasting his conspiracy nonsense across multiple threads now.
Have you forgotten about the off-topic thread created for you and Hugh?
I see the first team forum has also been" polluted" with stuff that should be on the Altrincham fc Ladies team forum. ;)
And in other off topic news, apparently Everton are asking eighty million pounds for a player - I wonder how that business model would work given the way things are going.
Sorry but some of us are just really angry about all this business, and with the possible cancellation of the season there looks like being no first team football anyway. Maybe we can just talk about our favourite seasons from the past for the next few months. 90/91 for me. Obviously.
I wonder if professional football will ever recover from all this. Maybe we should have a new poll - how many national league teams will survive this, perhaps, or when will we be allowed to see our second match since March.
And for the record, JD is pretty much bang on.
I've tried with the ot forum, I really have, but it just doesn't get used in the same way as Chester's - no post since May before "my" thread, and I can't change that on my own.
Good old "London" Alty ;D
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It seems to me that pay for view TV is the only way forward unless NL gets reclassified as non elite sport where these restrictions currently dont seem to apply ?
Agree on PPV. It might work well as many teams would get more away fans paying to watch games on TV than turning up in person.
The definition of elite sport was widened to include NLN and NLS to facilitate playoffs so it's quite unlikely that the decision would be changed in the opposite direction. Whether the 5th tier of football should ever be considered elite is another matter entirely.
Oh well if ppv might work perhaps it should be no fans permanently, after all, we'll be safer, especially if we're playing Chester for example. :) And just out of interest, what has the elite or otherwise status of Oxford City got to do with saving lives? I reckon you agree really that some of these rules are nonsense! ;)
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Sorry about those last two posts. Before "London" Alty started again, I was going to say that those heady days when half of us thought the season would start on time seem a long way off now. From 1000 Middlesbrough fans roaring their team on, to this, in just three days! Before today's bombshell announcement, I was going to quote the nlp story that npl crowds might go back to fifteen per cent of minimum capacity for the step (as our old friend Mark Harris said, we are on a knife edge) and extrapolate this to a similar position for the nl, which would mean a capacity of about 600 as I understand it, which could possibly have been less than season ticket sales. Of course 600 would not be much better than playing behind closed doors for the likes of Notts County (and not brilliant for us) but technically be a return of fans as per the nl's previous statement, but I guess that is a moot point now.
Whilst there is talk of no return of fans til March or beyond, technically this is just a pause as I understand, and so I assume the nl might consider it worth their while starting the season with ppv to at least gauge whether this is viable, especially if they are given to understand that there is still a possibility of a return of fans this side of Christmas. At any rate, it seems that any start of the nl, at least in the next month or two will have to be ppv only. If it could work, after a fashion, for the playoffs, one would hope that something could be arranged for the regular season - though whether people will still be willing or able to spend the money in sufficient numbers with the way things are going to allow all nl teams to survive whatever passes for the season is another matter!
And as a final point, I think it might be a good thing if we could all lighten up a bit, after all, we have just got promoted, the stayaways have got their wish, the future is looking bright, and together we can make it a successful one, and we can do it for Ecky, who would have put up with worse than me for the good of the club!
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If I knew that all the games would be live streamed I would buy my season ticket and the club would get revenue from me whether I was in the ground or not. So if something can be put together in the next ten days by all clubs then there's no reason why the season can't start on time. Long shot though it is.
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Without fans the only sustainable way is live streaming/donations.
I'd gladly pay the entrance fee to watch via Alty tv. Whether the club is geared up for this I don't know.
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I'd like to think that live streaming is a possibility but how many other NL clubs produce the consistently excellent quality service we get from Alty TV? If paid subscription live streaming were to work, there would need to be some quality guarantees across the board and that might mean more cost to clubs to bring their service up to scratch in a time when money is so tight. I'd certainly buy into such a service if it was available.
Paul
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I imagine that there would be lots of issues to resolve around a streaming service and you'd like to think that discussions are ongoing.
Can't believe that the league would just allow clubs to go off and do their own thing - it'd be bound to be centralised with the extra fuss that would entail.
BT would no doubt have a view on it as it would be competition for their paid for service, and I'm not sure about the Saturday 3pm-5pm blackout, but you'd hope that's still on hold.
Anyway, I'll trust that the club have this covered and we'll just have to wait and see.
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I'm not concerned too much with other clubs, I am sure the majority in this division can provide a high quality service, if supported with the technicals by BT so it can merge into their offering.
Where there's a will, there's a way (as with the vaccine).
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BT are the biggest stumbling block when it comes to live streaming. If they could be persuaded to lower their charges (or preferably introduce a realistic pay-per-view option) I'd be happy to subscribe. Otherwise I suppose I can live with Radio Robins and Alty TV highlights later where possible.
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BT are the biggest stumbling block when it comes to live streaming. If they could be persuaded to lower their charges (or preferably introduce a realistic pay-per-view option) I'd be happy to subscribe. Otherwise I suppose I can live with Radio Robins and Alty TV highlights later where possible.
Agree with your BT comment.
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I don't honestly see, even with ppv streaming, how playing matches at this level behind closed doors is sustainable. You can get away with it for a few games in the play offs but who knows how long this will last. The TV deal is probably a fraction of the EFL but you've got plenty of NL clubs budgeted and run as if they are in it.
Zero gate receipts, no bar takings, sponsors lounge income or club shop sales. You're probably talking £6-700k minimum of running costs in a season for us and other clubs are in the millions. We are probably less exposed in all of this compared to other clubs to be fair.
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I think it's the meeting of the National League today. Apparently they might be asking for around £20 million of government support for the three national leagues. If this comes off, or anything like it, we'll be fine. Fingers crossed for developments eh?
Also wonder what the decision re Macclesfield might be?
Does anyone know what time the meeting is and when we might hear back from it?
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The meeting is 2pm, according to R4 this morning.
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I don't honestly see, even with ppv streaming, how playing matches at this level behind closed doors is sustainable. You can get away with it for a few games in the play offs but who knows how long this will last. The TV deal is probably a fraction of the EFL but you've got plenty of NL clubs budgeted and run as if they are in it.
Zero gate receipts, no bar takings, sponsors lounge income or club shop sales. You're probably talking £6-700k minimum of running costs in a season for us and other clubs are in the millions. We are probably less exposed in all of this compared to other clubs to be fair.
John Coyne said on Granada Reports last night that Alty could get through the season with streaming
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I don't honestly see, even with ppv streaming, how playing matches at this level behind closed doors is sustainable. You can get away with it for a few games in the play offs but who knows how long this will last. The TV deal is probably a fraction of the EFL but you've got plenty of NL clubs budgeted and run as if they are in it.
Zero gate receipts, no bar takings, sponsors lounge income or club shop sales. You're probably talking £6-700k minimum of running costs in a season for us and other clubs are in the millions. We are probably less exposed in all of this compared to other clubs to be fair.
That's the nail on the head as far as I'm aware. We'd be able to get by streaming in the short term, and you can rest assured we will look to be as creative as possible with additional extras like programmes for the game, golden goal and so on - but it would be catastrophic for some of the bigger teams in our league who just can't make up that massive food and drink / corporate match day sponsorship deficit.
Personally I'm all for pushing to get the season going behind closed doors but we should respect that it could seriously harm, or even be at the expense of, some clubs in The National League.
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I don't honestly see, even with ppv streaming, how playing matches at this level behind closed doors is sustainable. You can get away with it for a few games in the play offs but who knows how long this will last. The TV deal is probably a fraction of the EFL but you've got plenty of NL clubs budgeted and run as if they are in it.
Zero gate receipts, no bar takings, sponsors lounge income or club shop sales. You're probably talking £6-700k minimum of running costs in a season for us and other clubs are in the millions. We are probably less exposed in all of this compared to other clubs to be fair.
That's the nail on the head as far as I'm aware. We'd be able to get by streaming in the short term, and you can rest assured we will look to be as creative as possible with additional extras like programmes for the game, golden goal and so on - but it would be catastrophic for some of the bigger teams in our league who just can't make up that massive food and drink / corporate match day sponsorship deficit.
Personally I'm all for pushing to get the season going behind closed doors but we should respect that it could seriously harm, or even be at the expense of, some clubs in The National League.
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You have got several clubs losing fortunes in this league as it is, and those who are kept alive by directors and owners pumping money in even with attendances we would love. I would be amazed if they would agree to a scenario where the losses and subsidies become massively worse.
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But then isn't the only realistic alternative to BCD - scrapping the entire season - even worse? Maybe it's not, if clubs could cancel all their staff contracts. But that would be a pretty horrendous step to take.
I suspect there will be some sort of support scheme for NL and EFL clubs from the government and/or Premier League. If that does happen, the onus will be on those clubs to get playing.
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I don't honestly see, even with ppv streaming, how playing matches at this level behind closed doors is sustainable. You can get away with it for a few games in the play offs but who knows how long this will last. The TV deal is probably a fraction of the EFL but you've got plenty of NL clubs budgeted and run as if they are in it.
Zero gate receipts, no bar takings, sponsors lounge income or club shop sales. You're probably talking £6-700k minimum of running costs in a season for us and other clubs are in the millions. We are probably less exposed in all of this compared to other clubs to be fair.
John Coyne said on Granada Reports last night that Alty could get through the season with streaming
How many outside the club - those who do not look at the websites and who are casual fans - will know of the streaming? Can this be advertised around the community: local radio, local newspapers, Altrincham Today or even press releases to local TV?
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Club need to look to sort the "match day experience". Watching it in a pub is never going to be that good, but we need to keep people as fans; interested and involved. With the curfew, we could get a lot of day drinkers together in one venue for the game. I'd much rather drink somewhere that can benefit the club for every pint.
If CSH is workable for the Away Games, it needs to be a full fundraising day competing with bottomless brunch/Market for day drinkers. Bands, brunch (beyond bacon sandwiches), bottle bars, private hire of the sponsors lounge.You pay £30 for brunch beer and live music and most gaffs intown (usually six drinks and a small plate).
For Home games if we can use CSH, can we strike a deal to endorse the King George and with a package - Pie Pint Stream, pre-match recorded content.
With a new fanzone, and no MCR Christmas markets, can we create something on the pitch/stands to allow midweek drinks of mulled wine and bratwurst. People love being overcharged for substandard products, it's worth us filling the gap.
With fans not able to spend £50 on matchdays, I'd be interested in how non-football subscriptions:
Thee Terrace sell monthly "loot boxes" £25 a month gets you six items of merchandise unavailable elsewhere.
Do we move away from a program to an £8-10 monthly magazine.
Could Libero do a local beer selection of the away breweries were due to face.? A can from Southampton local brewery, Nottingham brewery delivered in month one.
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Club need to look to sort the "match day experience". Watching it in a pub is never going to be that good, but we need to keep people as fans; interested and involved. With the curfew, we could get a lot of day drinkers together in one venue for the game. I'd much rather drink somewhere that can benefit the club for every pint.
If CSH is workable for the Away Games, it needs to be a full fundraising day competing with bottomless brunch/Market for day drinkers. Bands, brunch (beyond bacon sandwiches), bottle bars, private hire of the sponsors lounge.You pay £30 for brunch beer and live music and most gaffs intown (usually six drinks and a small plate).
For Home games if we can use CSH, can we strike a deal to endorse the King George and with a package - Pie Pint Stream, pre-match recorded content.
With a new fanzone, and no MCR Christmas markets, can we create something on the pitch/stands to allow midweek drinks of mulled wine and bratwurst. People love being overcharged for substandard products, it's worth us filling the gap.
With fans not able to spend £50 on matchdays, I'd be interested in how non-football subscriptions:
Thee Terrace sell monthly "loot boxes" £25 a month gets you six items of merchandise unavailable elsewhere.
Do we move away from a program to an £8-10 monthly magazine.
Could Libero do a local beer selection of the away breweries were due to face.? A can from Southampton local brewery, Nottingham brewery delivered in month one.
Some great ideas in there. The clubs that get creative will be the ones to come out the other end of this mess on top.
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Club need to look to sort the "match day experience". Watching it in a pub is never going to be that good, but we need to keep people as fans; interested and involved. With the curfew, we could get a lot of day drinkers together in one venue for the game. I'd much rather drink somewhere that can benefit the club for every pint.
If CSH is workable for the Away Games, it needs to be a full fundraising day competing with bottomless brunch/Market for day drinkers. Bands, brunch (beyond bacon sandwiches), bottle bars, private hire of the sponsors lounge.You pay £30 for brunch beer and live music and most gaffs intown (usually six drinks and a small plate).
For Home games if we can use CSH, can we strike a deal to endorse the King George and with a package - Pie Pint Stream, pre-match recorded content.
With a new fanzone, and no MCR Christmas markets, can we create something on the pitch/stands to allow midweek drinks of mulled wine and bratwurst. People love being overcharged for substandard products, it's worth us filling the gap.
With fans not able to spend £50 on matchdays, I'd be interested in how non-football subscriptions:
Thee Terrace sell monthly "loot boxes" £25 a month gets you six items of merchandise unavailable elsewhere.
Do we move away from a program to an £8-10 monthly magazine.
Could Libero do a local beer selection of the away breweries were due to face.? A can from Southampton local brewery, Nottingham brewery delivered in month one.
Some great ideas in there. The clubs that get creative will be the ones to come out the other end of this mess on top.
Yes indeed! Love these ideas
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Marketing the club shop better (Christmas presents!!!!!!)
New sponsorship options like sponsoring a seat in the main stand - we did this about 20 years ago
Will the CSH be showing Prem League games - get some packages there?
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sponsor everything. the catering outlets, the stewards, the CSH. if it moves or if it doesn't it can have a sponsor.
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Flag sponsorship
The away end is very visible on a TV stream, as proved by the flag display against Chester. Fans could purchase a flag (£100) that's displayed at games but profits the clubs (£60). Not only would they look good on streams and provide revenue but help if they're produced properly they could be displayed around the ground - and at away games - for year's to come.
Fans could club together like Teaser or London Alty.
It'd be like buying a brick/tile or a pixel on an old website.
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There is also the photo idea that clubs like Man U have with lifesize pics of fans in their stands. Is that feasible in the main stand?
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Dover offering live streaming.......
http://www.doverathletic.com/news/live-streaming-coverage-on-sale-now/
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There is also the photo idea that clubs like Man U have with lifesize pics of fans in their stands. Is that feasible in the main stand?
Club ruled that out for playoffs but might need to reconsider during extended period. I notice Bath opted for flags over cutouts giving longevity to them
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Maybe company sponsorships on the chequers end And flags in the home end
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Maybe company sponsorships on the chequers end And flags in the home end
Could charge by the Metre/m2
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There is also the photo idea that clubs like Man U have with lifesize pics of fans in their stands. Is that feasible in the main stand?
Club ruled that out for playoffs but might need to reconsider during extended period. I notice Bath opted for flags over cutouts giving longevity to them
Either way, a little extra colour might improve the lack of atmosphere.
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Well it looks like I can declare the second option the winner, voted for by 30 per cent of us (that's how up in the air things were!). Unless things change again - which wouldn't entirely surprise me.
Incidentally, Chester FC are fundamentally correct - this is unsustainable, many clubs are taking a big hit, and the football and other authorities need to get their act together if football is to avoid further casualties. Loans only for the rest of the season (and potentially parts of next season) is not good enough.
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Well it looks like I can declare the second option the winner, voted for by 30 per cent of us (that's how up in the air things were!). Unless things change again - which wouldn't entirely surprise me.
Incidentally, Chester FC are fundamentally correct - this is unsustainable, many clubs are taking a big hit, and the football and other authorities need to get their act together if football is to avoid further casualties. Loans only for the rest of the season (and potentially parts of next season) is not good enough.
Yes!