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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: MarpleAlty on August 28, 2020, 02:09:58 PM
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...appoint Tim Flowers as Manager.
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...appoint Tim Flowers as Manager.
It's an old saying but a true one. "There's a mug born every minute"
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Anybody got Charlie Cairolis number? There's a clown escaped.
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"a mug born every minute" - exactly what I was thinking! All they need is a team now... though I find it hard to believe they will start next season in the national premier.
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give it a year or two and they'll be playing in the FA Vase.
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There's got to be a bit of "brown envelopes at dawn" going on here.
Surely, after what went on with the players and the last few managers (including Sol Campbell, who's still sueing them for unpaid wages) he's demanded (and got) a bit of a wedge up front from the secretive owner or his representatives?
If not, he's a very very foolish and gullible man indeed.
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Would hate to see Macc go under,they have always been good rivals
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On Twitter there seem to be a lot of Macc fans that are going to be refusing to go to home games until their owner has cleared off. I do hope they don't go under, Northwich first and then Macc and we'd have lost our two biggest rivals in the space of a decade nearly.
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Would hate to see Macc go under,they have always been good rivals
I'm genuinely in two minds if I'm honest.
After over half a century despising them, and feeling the sharp end of their bitter mockery and hatred for everything Alty, one part of me wishes they go the same way as the Green g*ts.
The other side of me hopes they pull through and become a rival we can meet and beat consistently ; finishing higher than them in the league until Parky takes us up to the promised land of league 2.
PS. I know it's spiteful but winning promotion at moss rose with an injury time flukey og would be the icing on the cake! 😉
PPS. Sorry my sympathy is severely limited.
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Loathsome club.
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Personally, I'd like to quickly reach a point where we consider Stockport as our natural rivals, then before too long, Oldham, Bolton, and Rochdale.
Macclesfield should simply be swatted away like an irritating fly.
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I can remember when it used to be Wigan! The way they're going, it could be again soon! 😉
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it was having lots of local games to go to that brought me back to watching Altrincham twenty-five years ago. Then we had Northwich, Stalybridge, Runcorn and Macclesfield all in the Conference.
I thought it was a shame Northwich went bust and I wouldn't want to see Macc the same way. You can't beat your rivals if they don't exist.
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Wigan? What about Mossley? We drew at Tottenham and they still beat us to the title. They must have been some team that season! And then for some obscure reaon they didn't go into the Alliance Premier. They got to the Trophy final around that time aswell didn't they? Some achievement for a small town.
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Wigan? What about Mossley? We drew at Tottenham and they still beat us to the title. They must have been some team that season! And then for some obscure reaon they didn't go into the Alliance Premier. They got to the Trophy final around that time aswell didn't they? Some achievement for a small town.
They didn't get into the Alliance because Seel Park didn't meet the required standard.
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I still have the not-so-fond memories of our last encounter with them at Moss Rose which ended in a 3-0 defeat and most of their scrotes following us back to the station.
To be honest I've quite enjoyed the Chester rivalry and it's a much better away day than the weirdos in the hills.
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I still have the not-so-fond memories of our last encounter with them at Moss Rose which ended in a 3-0 defeat and most of their scrotes following us back to the station.
To be honest I've quite enjoyed the Chester rivalry and it's a much better away day than the weirdos in the hills.
It's been a novelty to have a game with bite with Chester, but it'll be soon be forgotten like Warrington and Shaw Lane. Stockport will never feel like a rivalry - but may have if we'd both stayed at National (rather than North for a prolonged period).
I imagine Bill and Ben will manufacture a rivalry with York and possibly Fylde; the siege mentally and distraction tactics work well there.
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Just a thought, but have we ever played Stockport in the National League before?
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Just a thought, but have we ever played Stockport in the National League before?
No, they got relegated into it in 2011, just when we were being relegated from it, although it wasn't called the National League then, and they remained in Conference North/National North while we had two seasons above from 2014 to 16.
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Just a thought, but have we ever played Stockport in the National League before?
No, they got relegated into it in 2011, just when we were being relegated from it, although it wasn't called the National League then, and they remained in Conference North/National North while we had two seasons above from 2014 to 16.
Didn't we pass each other? Them coming down to the North as we got past Guiseley and went up?
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Just a thought, but have we ever played Stockport in the National League before?
No, they got relegated into it in 2011, just when we were being relegated from it, although it wasn't called the National League then, and they remained in Conference North/National North while we had two seasons above from 2014 to 16.
Didn't we pass each other? Them coming down to the North as we got past Guiseley and went up?
No, they had come down the previous season, so we played them in Conference North in 2013-14, beating them 3-0 at Moss Lane early in the season, then drawing 0-0 at Edgeley Park on Good Friday.
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Oh yes. Thanks for that SH. How could I have forgotten that 3-0 game? 🤯😉
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Oh yes. Thanks for that SH. How could I have forgotten that 3-0 game? 🤯😉
I distinctly remember a rather portly-looking Ian Craney taking to the field for them.
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Any excuse to dig out this old favourite:
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/20/article-2527122-1A3913CE00000578-543_964x642.jpg)
26th December 1978
Northern Premier League
Macclesfield...1
(David O'Neill - injury time consolation goal)
Altrincham...5
(John Rogers (2); Jeff Johnson; Graham Heathcote (pen) and Barry Howard)
Attendance: 1,105.
Jeff Johnson scores Alty's second goal after 13 minutes - described as follows in the Altrincham Guardian match report headlined "The Rout Of Macclesfield!": "Barry Howard crossed again for Jeff Johnson to head home."
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What a blast from the past. That's the 28 years old me extreme top right! I've got no idea why I'm in that end of the ground though (well it's 42 years ago after all)
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What a blast from the past. That's the 28 years old me extreme top right! I've got no idea why I'm in that end of the ground though (well it's 42 years ago after all)
Are they Alty fans behind the goal ? No segregation back then there again there wasnt in 95 from memory
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I think they're mainly their fans although I can spot a couple of ours. I think the Alty fans are grouped off the picture to my left (I. E. Off the right hand side of the picture)
PS. Segregation was something which only happened in South Africa in those days 😂🤣😂🤣)
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Am I right in saying thats Alty keeper (never played a first team game) Mike Sherlock being drubbed?
Proud to say I was there!
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The dates match but don't recognise him. I. E. Probably yes.
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This is a fascinating photo & very decent quality.
I'm fairly sure that this is all Alty fans.
Bottom right, right to left: Elaine Seller | Nic Seller | Paul McGee
Behind Nic, is that Mike Adams & 2 to his right is that Campbell McLay?
I am to the right of the left hand post, above the Macc Number 5's left arm.
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This is a fascinating photo & very decent quality.
I'm fairly sure that this is all Alty fans.
Bottom right, right to left: Elaine Seler | Nic Seller | Paul McGee
Behind Nic, is that Mike Adams & 2 to his right is that Campbell McLay?
I am to the right of the left hand post, above the Macc Number 5's left arm.
A good head of hair there back in the day Flynnie (70s style). Sadly I missed those halcyon days as I was in the Army and living in Belgium..
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Should finish above Macc this season. They haven't signed any players yet
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yo ho ho and off we go.🎶
Macc town sinking far below.🎶
Got no cash to pay sol Campbell
Macc town really are a shambles.
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yo ho ho and off we go.🎶
Macc town sinking far below.🎶
Got no cash to pay sol Campbell
Macc town really are a shambles.
That's in very bad taste indeed.
I like it! 😉 😂😂
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I'd like to beat them fair and square. At the moment they seem to have a chairman who is totally clueless
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I see they've signed Sam Walker, amongst a whole host of other players.
To be honest I wouldn't have minded him here as a squad option, but I can understand why the management team have plumped for younger assets like Ceesay and Clayton.
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looking at the right post there are 3 alty fans...the middle one is partially hidden but you can clearly see the telling white ring of hair of my Dad...behind him slightly to the right looks like Big Bill????
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54088646
Macclesfield have been given a further seven-day extension to a winding-up petition over unpaid tax to allow a takeover of the club to go through.
The club was given a 12th adjournment by the High Court after claiming a takeover was at "an advanced stage".
The potential buyer was named as Robert Benwell, who previously made a bid to take over Bury in December.
The court was told that HM Revenue & Customs is owed a sum of £188,721.09, with eight creditors owed £592,000.
https://twohundredpercent.net/bury-darkest-hour-just-before-dawn/
Robert Benwell is an entrepreneur, because of course he is. Thirty-five years of age, Companies House shows a business history which doesn’t look exceptionally stellar. Juice Nation Ltd was incorporated in September 2017 and was dissolved by compulsory strike-off in January 2019 after having submitted no company accounts and, it would seem, having not traded at all, whilst Vape Nation Group Ltd was incorporated in August 2017 and followed exactly the same fate as its similarly-named sister company.
Meanwhile, LCCX Ltd (which is believed to be related to crypto-currency) was incorporated in January 2018. Both that company’s confirmation statement (an annual document confirming that the Companies House information held is correct and up-to-date) and its first set of company accounts are ten months and two months overdue respectively, though a compulsory strike-off was suspended in the summer.
How long do we give Tim Flowers?
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Flowers was daft enough to take the job in the first place. So he's probably daft enough to stay put - assuming that he gets paid from time to time.
That's an assumption in the same ball park as Covid being erased by Christmas, a Brexit deal being reached next month, and the Lib Dems winning the next election.
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And the "takeover" heralding a bright new future. Free of begging bowls...
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54088646
Macclesfield have been given a further seven-day extension to a winding-up petition over unpaid tax to allow a takeover of the club to go through.
The club was given a 12th adjournment by the High Court after claiming a takeover was at "an advanced stage".
The potential buyer was named as Robert Benwell, who previously made a bid to take over Bury in December.
The court was told that HM Revenue & Customs is owed a sum of £188,721.09, with eight creditors owed £592,000.
https://twohundredpercent.net/bury-darkest-hour-just-before-dawn/
Robert Benwell is an entrepreneur, because of course he is. Thirty-five years of age, Companies House shows a business history which doesn’t look exceptionally stellar. Juice Nation Ltd was incorporated in September 2017 and was dissolved by compulsory strike-off in January 2019 after having submitted no company accounts and, it would seem, having not traded at all, whilst Vape Nation Group Ltd was incorporated in August 2017 and followed exactly the same fate as its similarly-named sister company.
Meanwhile, LCCX Ltd (which is believed to be related to crypto-currency) was incorporated in January 2018. Both that company’s confirmation statement (an annual document confirming that the Companies House information held is correct and up-to-date) and its first set of company accounts are ten months and two months overdue respectively, though a compulsory strike-off was suspended in the summer.
How long do we give Tim Flowers?
How long before Tim Flowers goes Pop...
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Wound Up according to Sky News Twitter
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They'll wriggle out of it somehow or other. They always seem to.
I don't think the end and a phoenix club can be too far away though.
I think I said before that we would be lucky (or unlucky) to play them in the league this year. Seems like I might be correct.
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They'll wriggle out of it somehow or other. They always seem to.
I don't think the end and a phoenix club can be too far away though.
I think I said before that we would be lucky (or unlucky) to play them in the league this year. Seems like I might be correct.
Rivals or not I feel sorry for them and most of their supporters hope they bounce back. .Cant see them getting out of this although five live says paying off the debt would save them .
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More on winding up order:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54177582 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54177582)
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Report on the radio said it's not yet clear if this means liquidation and receivership or if they'll be allowed to appeal. So it may not be all over quite yet.
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Knowing them, I never thought that for a moment it would be.
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Report on the radio said it's not yet clear if this means liquidation and receivership or if they'll be allowed to appeal. So it may not be all over quite yet.
I think that's dead wrong. The next step is for MTFC Ltd to be removed from Cos House. The Court then appoints an Official Reciever to act as a Liquidator to wind up the company and then see if the creditors can be paid what they're owing. There's no appeal process, that's it.
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More on winding up order:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54177582 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54177582)
No shock whatsoever when you read that report and the case for the defence. I don't see how they have any comeback on this unless hands are actually put in pockets for once.
A lot of this was going on remember when they got promoted, and I'm sure the fans were quite enjoying it all then. My sympathy for them is measured.
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One of the major creditors is John Askey, who is owed £173K !
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Like with Bury, it eventually catches up with you.
I can't see any way they'll be starting this season.
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It's been a long time coming. Inevitable.The
Ripe for a Phoenix club in a North Western league.
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Report on the radio said it's not yet clear if this means liquidation and receivership or if they'll be allowed to appeal. So it may not be all over quite yet.
I think that's dead wrong. The next step is for MTFC Ltd to be removed from Cos House. The Court then appoints an Official Reciever to act as a Liquidator to wind up the company and then see if the creditors can be paid what they're owing. There's no appeal process, that's it.
R5 saying they have five days to either pay the debt or appeal the decision. Only then will they be liquidated.
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I think it would only be right to share out season ticket information with them in case they want to follow a near by football club
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This is a fascinating photo & very decent quality.
I'm fairly sure that this is all Alty fans.
Bottom right, right to left: Elaine Seller | Nic Seller | Paul McGee
Behind Nic, is that Mike Adams & 2 to his right is that Campbell McLay?
I am to the right of the left hand post, above the Macc Number 5's left arm.
Does anyone have a photo/still of Ken McKenna’s FA Cup equaliser at Macc in 1990 with Jimmy hugging him.
It’s a very similar picture and you could probably do a good who’s who of Alty fans behind the goal.
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I think it would only be right to share out season ticket information with them in case they want to follow a near by football club
Brilliant. Made my laugh anyway!
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Very sad to hear this,another local rival gone
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I think it would only be right to share out season ticket information with them in case they want to follow a near by football club
Liberally laughed out loud at this, well done.
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I can imagine they would rather stick pins in their eyes
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I wonder who owns Macc's ground? That must be worth more than the debts
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Think it's the council. That would be a silver lining for any phoenix club.
(Could be wrong though 😉!)
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I wonder who owns Macc's ground? That must be worth more than the debts
It looks like Cheshire East council acquired it in 2013.
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If Macc are wound up it would be 2 great rivals we have beaten without doing it on the pitch. THAT will be a great shame.
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Do feel for Macc, the FA and the EFL need to sort some sort of legislation that allows them to intervene with the club's running. We've seen time and time again punishment is not enough because these money-grabbers don't seem to care about the football or the results, they're just there for sort term profits for themselves.
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If Macc are wound up it would be 2 great rivals we have beaten without doing it on the pitch. THAT will be a great shame.
If Macclesfield are fully wound up and liquidated and re-enter at counties level, out of curiosity, who would people then consider our main, realistic rival. For me you can either go historical and say someone like Barrow or look at more recent years in particular and say (and I'm sure many will disagree) Chester.
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If Macc are wound up it would be 2 great rivals we have beaten without doing it on the pitch. THAT will be a great shame.
If Macclesfield are fully wound up and liquidated and re-enter at counties level, out of curiosity, who would people then consider our main, realistic rival. For me you can either go historical and say someone like Barrow or look at more recent years in particular and say (and I'm sure many will disagree) Chester.
Chester and Stockport I would say
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Definitely Stockport.
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Just realized that, if there isn't a fixture backlog to sort out, Macclesfield's demise potentially leaves a two week gap between our visit to Weymouth and our last game at home to Torquay.
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Just realized that, if there isn't a fixture backlog to sort out, Macclesfield's demise potentially leaves a two week gap between our visit to Weymouth and our last game at home to Torquay.
Glad they gave us Stockport for Christmas and new Year then!
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If Macc are wound up it would be 2 great rivals we have beaten without doing it on the pitch. THAT will be a great shame.
If Macclesfield are fully wound up and liquidated and re-enter at counties level, out of curiosity, who would people then consider our main, realistic rival. For me you can either go historical and say someone like Barrow or look at more recent years in particular and say (and I'm sure many will disagree) Chester.
Chester and Stockport I would say
W!tton Albion for me, I'm still not over '95, and I didn't even stay for the 'afters'! ;) Though saying that, I met a Chester supporter on Snowdon recently who said he hates us as we always beat them and hopes we go down. Seeing as they're desperate to be our rival... they are funny though, Chester!
More seriously, who else has failed the fit and proper persons test since Stevie Vaughan (the first one to fail it) did over another of our Cheshire rivals, and what has changed since then? For instance, if someone initially passes the test but new information comes to light at any later date, I would really hope that a mechanism is in place to allow their ownership of a club to be reassessed. Something really needs to be done to stop these chancers exploiting football clubs.
And of course this must be a reminder to us to keep up an unceasing vigilance to make sure that such a situation can never ever happen to our club. That is one of the things that pleases me most in recent years, that we are now a million miles away from the situations we faced in the dark times.
If we go up (you never know!) and Wigan go down (more likely), could the rivalry be revived? It used to be quite strong I understand. I didn't even know of it when we played them in 1994, but I presume quite a few supporters still remembered it at the time. I seem to remember at a recent friendly, some Wigan supporters sang the red red robin song, which I was slightly surprised by.
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Just realized that, if there isn't a fixture backlog to sort out, Macclesfield's demise potentially leaves a two week gap between our visit to Weymouth and our last game at home to Torquay.
Glad they gave us Stockport for Christmas and new Year then!
I’m certain that was deliberate on both our & Stockport’s part in terms of anticipating Macc might not be here by Xmas & not wanting to miss out on the traditional Christmas local derby games. I remember a few years back with one of the various Chester FC iterations we made sure we played them at home on the August B/H to maximise gate receipts before they had the plug pulled on them later that season.
I’d say in terms of active dislike & needle on both sides that Chester is the nearest we have to a proper local rival now, Stockport that just isn’t there for me, though if we both stay in the same league for a few seasons & the games are tight then who knows.
On a final note obviously some sympathy for the Macc fans but the chickens have finally come home to roost for them, it’s been an on-going catalogue of numerous EFL disciplinary offences, late (or not at all) paid players & staff, racked up huge debts all whilst trumpeting the ‘miracle’ of winning the Conference 2 years ago. We’ll hopefully see AFC Macc & 1874 Northwich one day again.
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Yes. A phoenix 1874 Macclesfield vs 1874 Northwich is a distinct possibility!
1874 must have been a heck of a year!
Incidently, I'm not sure why they bang on about that as they have re-formed at least twice up to now (i e before any future phoenix club)
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I’d say in terms of active dislike & needle on both sides that Chester is the nearest we have to a proper local rival now, Stockport that just isn’t there for me, though if we both stay in the same league for a few seasons & the games are tight then who knows.
Agreed re. Stockport. Geographically they are the natural rival, but there's no history, they're a much bigger club and it feels weird having them here - they're just a victim of mismanagement off the field. Would like to see them go up this year.
Proper rivalries do take some time to be established, but on and off field events with Chester seem to be accelerating that process.
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From 20 years living on the outskirts of Chester, I can assure you that the only rivalry they see is the one with Wrexham and it will always be that way. They consider us to be a 'part-time pub team' who are trying to create a rivalry with them.
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I’d say in terms of active dislike & needle on both sides that Chester is the nearest we have to a proper local rival now, Stockport that just isn’t there for me, though if we both stay in the same league for a few seasons & the games are tight then who knows.
Agreed re. Stockport. Geographically they are the natural rival, but there's no history, they're a much bigger club and it feels weird having them here - they're just a victim of mismanagement off the field. Would like to see them go up this year.
Proper rivalries do take some time to be established, but on and off field events with Chester seem to be accelerating that process.
Absolutely, it's a bit of a local derby without the rivalry if that makes sense. If anything it's quite friendly and amicable, but then we never turn up when we go there - that helps!
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We are not trying to create a rivalry with Chester, we are just beating them whenever we play them - FA Cup, Playoffs its all the same to us
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The Stockport non rivalry is probably as we don't have any idiots that im aware of who would have a pop at them unlike Macc fans and they wont want a rivalry with a non league club.
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Historical rival, should Macc sink, has to be Witton. I feel odd about that as they detested Vics as much as we did.
In the current era it should be County, but in my head and heart it's not. It's still the green and white sh*te!
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We are not trying to create a rivalry with Chester, we are just beating them whenever we play them - FA Cup, Playoffs its all the same to us
We all know that. I was merely saying what Chester fans views are - mistaken though they may be as far as we're concerned.
They don't like us as we keep beating them but see us as a 'bogey team' (ie a smaller team who they inexplicably and continually fail to beat) rather than a rival
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Macc will always be our principal rivals, like Burnley and Halifax or indeed Glasgow Celtic and Rangers FC (Liquidated) reformed as RFC 2012 plc.
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We are not trying to create a rivalry with Chester, we are just beating them whenever we play them - FA Cup, Playoffs its all the same to us
We all know that. I was merely saying what Chester fans views are - mistaken though they may be as far as we're concerned.
They don't like us as we keep beating them but see us as a 'bogey team' (ie a smaller team who they inexplicably and continually fail to beat) rather than a rival
Not so sure. Although none of them would ever admit it, a lot of Chester fans definitely consider us as their secondary rivals behind Wrexham. A mixture of always losing to us, playing each other so much, being relatively close by and also off-field events are the reasons. Just take a look at our official Twitter page, whenever we concede a goal, no matter who it's against or whether it affects them, a handful of their fans are all over it. Needless to say, every single Chester fan wanted us to lose to York and then Boston in the play-offs. I hope we stay up next year and I even hope they come up because that fixture was the one that I have always looked forward to the most. Still haven't gotten over the disappointment of the game in March being cancelled, would have been massive attendance!
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We are not trying to create a rivalry with Chester, we are just beating them whenever we play them - FA Cup, Playoffs its all the same to us
We all know that. I was merely saying what Chester fans views are - mistaken though they may be as far as we're concerned.
They don't like us as we keep beating them but see us as a 'bogey team' (ie a smaller team who they inexplicably and continually fail to beat) rather than a rival
Not so sure. Although none of them would ever admit it, a lot of Chester fans definitely consider us as their secondary rivals behind Wrexham. A mixture of always losing to us, playing each other so much, being relatively close by and also off-field events are the reasons. Just take a look at our official Twitter page, whenever we concede a goal, no matter who it's against or whether it affects them, a handful of their fans are all over it. Needless to say, every single Chester fan wanted us to lose to York and then Boston in the play-offs. I hope we stay up next year and I even hope they come up because that fixture was the one that I have always looked forward to the most. Still haven't gotten over the disappointment of the game in March being cancelled, would have been massive attendance!
Most Chester fans, especially those over 40, still consider Tranmere as their secondary rivals. They haven't played them much recently but that's never really been the case with us and Macclesfield either.
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Well - I seem to remember SAFE, or whatever it was called at the time, made a donation to the old Chester City (sadly it didn't stop them going bust in the end)|. I just hope they stay out of similar financial problems in the future - perhaps it was for the best in the long run that Murphy left. I would also be glad to see them in the GMVC. Not enough northern clubs in it anyway, especially with Macc gone.
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From 20 years living on the outskirts of Chester, I can assure you that the only rivalry they see is the one with Wrexham and it will always be that way. They consider us to be a 'part-time pub team' who are trying to create a rivalry with them.
And from experience I remember that to be quite a hostile one - up with Auchinleck Talbot v Cumnock!
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Not so sure. Although none of them would ever admit it, a lot of Chester fans definitely consider us as their secondary rivals behind Wrexham. A mixture of always losing to us, playing each other so much, being relatively close by and also off-field events are the reasons. Just take a look at our official Twitter page, whenever we concede a goal, no matter who it's against or whether it affects them, a handful of their fans are all over it. Needless to say, every single Chester fan wanted us to lose to York and then Boston in the play-offs. I hope we stay up next year and I even hope they come up because that fixture was the one that I have always looked forward to the most. Still haven't gotten over the disappointment of the game in March being cancelled, would have been massive attendance!
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Please don't.
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Speaking of Scottish football, I see that Arbroath's 36-0 win against a team from my home town has been beaten by German team Sport Verein Holdenstedt II against local rivals Ripdorf. Apparently they fielded seven players and "socially distanced" throughout!
Arbroath's keeper wouldn't have had to worry too much about social distancing - I seem to remember he spent almost the entire match sat in his goal under an umbrella!
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Speaking of Scottish football, I see that Arbroath's 36-0 win against a team from my home town has been beaten by German team Sport Verein Holdenstedt against local rivals Ripdorf. Apparently they fielded seven players and "socially distanced" throughout!
Arbroath's keeper wouldn't have had to worry too much about social distancing - I seem to remember he spent almost the entire match sat in his goal under an umbrella!
Think it was in protest of the German FA not allowing the fixture to be cancelled or postponed despite there being a Covid case in the Holdenstedt team
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Holdenstedt came into contact with someone in a previous game who tested positive but their team tested negative (according to the BBC). However, Ripdorf said conditions were not safe. Anyhow, they seem to have made their point, and it puts our 6-1 win against local rivals Northwich into perspective!
I believe Bon Accord were a cricket team and entered the Scottish FA cup by mistake
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Speaking of Scottish football, I see that Arbroath's 36-0 win against a team from my home town has been beaten by German team Sport Verein Holdenstedt against local rivals Ripdorf. Apparently they fielded seven players and "socially distanced" throughout!
Arbroath's keeper wouldn't have had to worry too much about social distancing - I seem to remember he spent almost the entire match sat in his goal under an umbrella!
Is Bon Accord an actual place or just a football club form Aberdeen ?I have tried looking it up.
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There's a Bon Accord Centre in Aberdeen, but it's fairly central, and I'm not sure that it's an actual area as such( on people's address etc), unless in the sense of Piccadilly. Then again, the Broomwood never seems to appear on maps.
As I say, they seem to have been a football club by mistake, and I'm not sure there's still a football club of that name, I don't remember hearing of one anyway.
Incidentally, Ripdorf would have faced a "200" fine if they had not played - it seems that "teletext" (BBC red button thing), cranky as ever, still cannot do a "Euro" symbol!
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Ripdorf ? Try saying it out load - is this game news ?
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The thing about Bon Accord being a cricket team who entered by accident is a myth. They were just an inexperienced football team. (The cricket club sometimes mentioned wasn't formed until a month after this game).
Bon Accord is an old Scottish battle cry used for sports clubs sometimes. There's a modern club near Motherwell, Shotts Bon Accord.
Anyway...Macclesfield seem to have gone the way of the original Bon Accord club!
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Most County fans I know quite like Alty and that's not in a condescending way, it's more a case of respect for a decent well run club, Alty fans didn't appear to delight in our demise like one or two other local clubs, I couldn't imagine us having a bitter rivalry where matchday becomes unpleasant.
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Most County fans I know quite like Alty and that's not in a condescending way, it's more a case of respect for a decent well run club, Alty fans didn't appear to delight in our demise like one or two other local clubs, I couldn't imagine us having a bitter rivalry where matchday becomes unpleasant.
I can't see a rivalry developing between us either.
When I first started watching the Robins in the 60s, we used to play County reserves in Cheshire League matches. I remember going to Edgeley to see the Senior Cup semi final against the now defunct New Brighton and thinking what a big club you were.
I believe most Alty fans are sad to see you fall from grace but we're glad to be in the same league. The holiday games will be something to look forward to covid permitting.
Good luck this season (except against us). I, for one, hope you can do a Barrow and start to climb back.
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County's problems, like ours decades ago, were rooted in the boardroom. Now those are squared up I can see County back in the league soon.
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There is never any animosity between clubs, just a mutual respect. On the odd occasions when Alty have won, the Stockport fans take it on the chin. Like our fans, they are there just to watch a decent match between two local clubs. So long as it is a good entertaining game, then nothing else matters.
It really is what football should be between two local clubs, I always look forward to the two games. I am glad we are playing them over Christmas too. Lets hope Covid and the weather does not stand between all of us and what will be two intriguing games. No animosity exists between our clubs, just mutual respect. I too can see Stockport doing well this season, hopefully with us too!!
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Strewth, I'd love to get County at home in the playoffs and see our new capacity tested.
I don't think I could ever feel any animosity towards County, I went to see them a couple of times in the days of Danny Bergara, they were a good team to watch at the time, with the likes of Brett Angell and the gangly Kevin Francis.
Anyhow, I reckon there will still be a rivalry with a reformed Macclesfield sooner or later, after all, the rivalry survived 19 years of us being in different leagues. I can't see them ending up like Northwich and Runcorn.
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There was a geezer on the radio from the macc supporters group. He mentioned having applied to a county level league (I was trying to pitch a tent at the time so may have got that wrong). If that's the case it could be another 19 years before our paths cross again.
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Maistone started in the Kent county league didn't they, and Brsdford at a lower level than that . Mind you, Kirkham and Wesham rose up through the leagues fairly quickly. Of course, former non-league powerhouse clubs Stafford and Scarborogh have been stuck in the npl for years, so this could be a likely scenario for Macc. We're bound to come across them in something or other, even if only the much-maligned Cheshire cup. Still, the support base and nl structure should be enough for them to make a substantial recovery within 5-10 years, I reckon.
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There is never any animosity between clubs, just a mutual respect. On the odd occasions when Alty have won, the Stockport fans take it on the chin. Like our fans, they are there just to watch a decent match between two local clubs. So long as it is a good entertaining game, then nothing else matters.
It really is what football should be between two local clubs, I always look forward to the two games. I am glad we are playing them over Christmas too. Lets hope Covid and the weather does not stand between all of us and what will be two intriguing games. No animosity exists between our clubs, just mutual respect. I too can see Stockport doing well this season, hopefully with us too!!
Amazing how quickly one forgets a game can be postponed due to weather!
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Maistone started in the Kent county league didn't they, and Brsdford at a lower level than that . Mind you, Kirkham and Wesham rose up through the leagues fairly quickly. Of course, former non-league powerhouse clubs Stafford and Scarborogh have been stuck in the npl for years, so this could be a likely scenario for Macc. We're bound to come across them in something or other, even if only the much-maligned Cheshire cup. Still, the support base and nl structure should be enough for them to make a substantial recovery within 5-10 years, I reckon.
Phoenix or fans' clubs do seem to get a few rapid promotions, then reach a level where they struggle to get any higher. Unlike Maidstone, Bradford and Scarborough, however, a new Macc club should be able to play at the council-owned Moss Rose, so, I agree, they could make faster progress than most, as they wouldn't have to divert effort to getting a stadium in their home town.
This all assumes there isn't some attempt , however dubious, to keep the original club going which splits the fans, as has happened at Bury.
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I don't know how reliable it is, but there is talk on the Macc forum that the council is no great lover of MTFC and if they go pop it would validate the lease. The fear is that the ground will then become council property without the caveat of preserving it for sports and it could be flattened to make way for a bypass on the Leek road and a lot of social housing.
One of the many rumours flying around.
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I don't know how reliable it is, but there is talk on the Macc forum that the council is no great lover of MTFC and if they go pop it would validate the lease. The fear is that the ground will then become council property without the caveat of preserving it for sports and it could be flattened to make way for a bypass on the Leek road and a lot of social housing.
One of the many rumours flying around.
My reading of all this is that should the company go into liquidation then the ground lease ends. At that point the council would have to make a very hard, cold decision about the future of moss rose. Post covid19 they'll need money, they'll want to boost the local economy with infrastruture projects, and with housing being the obvious choice they can ease the housing shortage at the same time.
In my view it's all gone at the liquidation stage, I think that's the next legal step.
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Report on the radio said it's not yet clear if this means liquidation and receivership or if they'll be allowed to appeal. So it may not be all over quite yet.
I think that's dead wrong. The next step is for MTFC Ltd to be removed from Cos House. The Court then appoints an Official Reciever to act as a Liquidator to wind up the company and then see if the creditors can be paid what they're owing. There's no appeal process, that's it.
R5 saying they have five days to either pay the debt or appeal the decision. Only then will they be liquidated.
Just a reminder that Macc have definitely gone.
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Report on the radio said it's not yet clear if this means liquidation and receivership or if they'll be allowed to appeal. So it may not be all over quite yet.
I think that's dead wrong. The next step is for MTFC Ltd to be removed from Cos House. The Court then appoints an Official Reciever to act as a Liquidator to wind up the company and then see if the creditors can be paid what they're owing. There's no appeal process, that's it.
R5 saying they have five days to either pay the debt or appeal the decision. Only then will they be liquidated.
Just a reminder that Macc have definitely gone.
Not until tomorrow I thought?* Knowing them, something will turn up.
*by that I mean after midnight tonight 😉
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Report on the radio said it's not yet clear if this means liquidation and receivership or if they'll be allowed to appeal. So it may not be all over quite yet.
I think that's dead wrong. The next step is for MTFC Ltd to be removed from Cos House. The Court then appoints an Official Reciever to act as a Liquidator to wind up the company and then see if the creditors can be paid what they're owing. There's no appeal process, that's it.
R5 saying they have five days to either pay the debt or appeal the decision. Only then will they be liquidated.
Just a reminder that Macc have definitely gone.
I’ve not seen it reported anywhere that they’ve been liquidated? Although I did notice their Wikipedia entry now refers to them in the past tense...
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Report on the radio said it's not yet clear if this means liquidation and receivership or if they'll be allowed to appeal. So it may not be all over quite yet.
I think that's dead wrong. The next step is for MTFC Ltd to be removed from Cos House. The Court then appoints an Official Reciever to act as a Liquidator to wind up the company and then see if the creditors can be paid what they're owing. There's no appeal process, that's it.
R5 saying they have five days to either pay the debt or appeal the decision. Only then will they be liquidated.
Just a reminder that Macc have definitely gone.
Not until tomorrow I thought?* Knowing them, something will turn up.
*by that I mean after midnight tonight 😉
Looks like the 5 days was 5 business days from last Wednesday - so you're right it's today.
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What are the good folk of Macclesfield going to to with their spare time when there's no football to go to?
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Report on the radio said it's not yet clear if this means liquidation and receivership or if they'll be allowed to appeal. So it may not be all over quite yet.
I think that's dead wrong. The next step is for MTFC Ltd to be removed from Cos House. The Court then appoints an Official Reciever to act as a Liquidator to wind up the company and then see if the creditors can be paid what they're owing. There's no appeal process, that's it.
R5 saying they have five days to either pay the debt or appeal the decision. Only then will they be liquidated.
Just a reminder that Macc have definitely gone.
Not until tomorrow I thought?* Knowing them, something will turn up.
*by that I mean after midnight tonight 😉
Looks like the 5 days was 5 business days from last Wednesday - so you're right it's today.
Thanks JTH. Sadly, I think I am. As I said though, don't worry, something will turn up for them - it always seems to.
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https://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-97500557.html
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https://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-97500557.html
Been on since the start of the week.... No takers yet though
PS. Plenty of time for a 'miracle'. 😉⌚
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https://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-97500557.html
Property now removed by the agent!
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Perhaps we could use it to train on......
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Journalist Matt Slater reporting that Macc have now been confirmed as liquidated
https://twitter.com/mjshrimper/status/1309098298444320771
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Make Macc fans aware of streaming of our games! Get a few pennies from them!
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The receivers are getting to work...
http://www.charlestaylor.co.uk/businesssale.aspx?BusinessID=13296&fbclid=IwAR0byTCruZaSNznKyUk8GngkS7ZzoqYKebE5uJAfTx0xf7XnBgPLREhof0
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See they're selling 'goodwill' 🙄. That should put another £2 on the sale price! 😉
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See they're selling 'goodwill' 🙄. That should put another £2 on the sale price! 😉
Still more than they will get for the "intellectual property"
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See they're selling 'goodwill' 🙄. That should put another £2 on the sale price! 😉
Still more than they will get for the "intellectual property"
Double LOLs
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See they're selling 'goodwill' 🙄. That should put another £2 on the sale price! 😉
Still more than they will get for the "intellectual property"
Double LOLs
I'm offering 2 shillings.
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If that's more than 3p, you've got it! 😉
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If the ground is to be sold off, are any of the amenities, stands etc worth buying?
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If the ground is to be sold off, are any of the amenities, stands etc worth buying?
I don't think they owned the ground.
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I understand the rivalry between Alty and Macc fans however, (putting Covid aside) what it does do is deprive both sets of fans two local fiercely (but massive revenue generating) contested local derbys.
Will the league replace them or carry on one short?
I can recall that the Council purchased the ground some years ago so us Council tax payers own a bit!!!!!!!!!! SBL ;)
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I understand the rivalry between Alty and Macc fans however, (putting Covid aside) what it does do is deprive both sets of fans two local fiercely (but massive revenue generating) contested local derbys.
Will the league replace them or carry on one short?
I can recall that the Council purchased the ground some years ago so us Council tax payers own a bit!!!!!!!!!! SBL ;)
I would imagine too late to change the leagues, so extra promotion next season...
...depending on how many teams might (God forbid) go bust in the meantime.
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More likely only three will be relegated with the usual four coming up if, as you say, no one goes pop.
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Well and truly gone now:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54341314
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Well and truly gone now:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54341314
So we never got the chance to play beat them!
I hope we can play any phoenix club they create!
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Well and truly gone now:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54341314
So we never got the chance to play beat them!
I hope we can play any phoenix club they create!
give it a few weeks they will be back ,they have a habit of returning like a magic show
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Well and truly gone now:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54341314
So we never got the chance to play beat them!
I hope we can play any phoenix club they create!
give it a few weeks they will be back ,they have a habit of returning like a magic show
I hate them from the past .but its best if we smashed them on the pitch rather than them go under
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Start again way down the pyramid AND play in front of paying fans. The crucial point is where they play, they'll be desperate to play at the moss rose midden.
I won't miss them as such, but will miss taking six points off them this coming season.
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I've heard the Cheshire Fire Service may be using this place as a new training facility.
Alternatively, could become our training and reserve ground?
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-97500557.html
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i would have hoped their ground was ring fenced by the local council so that a new club could start up at the bottom of the pyramid without having to worry about buying the ground.
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i would have hoped their ground was ring fenced by the local council so that a new club could start up at the bottom of the pyramid without having to worry about buying the ground.
The council have greater priorities than looking after a football club. Truer now than ever. If a house builder offered cash for it the council would be reckless to reject it on the grounds that a phoenix club may want to play there. The administrator will be looking to sell assets, there may not be much left after that process has run its course.
Mr. Sealey is often mentioned as being interested, he will need deep pockets if they intend to stay at the moss rose.
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So sad when any football club disappears.
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i would have hoped their ground was ring fenced by the local council so that a new club could start up at the bottom of the pyramid without having to worry about buying the ground.
The council have greater priorities than looking after a football club. Truer now than ever. If a house builder offered cash for it the council would be reckless to reject it on the grounds that a phoenix club may want to play there. The administrator will be looking to sell assets, there may not be much left after that process has run its course.
Mr. Sealey is often mentioned as being interested, he will need deep pockets if they intend to stay at the moss rose.
With money being sjhort the council will sell the land if they can and Macc Phoenix will have to play at Stockport Sports or the like
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i would have hoped their ground was ring fenced by the local council so that a new club could start up at the bottom of the pyramid without having to worry about buying the ground.
The council have greater priorities than looking after a football club. Truer now than ever. If a house builder offered cash for it the council would be reckless to reject it on the grounds that a phoenix club may want to play there. The administrator will be looking to sell assets, there may not be much left after that process has run its course.
Mr. Sealey is often mentioned as being interested, he will need deep pockets if they intend to stay at the moss rose.
With money being sjhort the council will sell the land if they can and Macc Phoenix will have to play at Stockport Sports or the like
Knutsford Town may be keen on the revenue?
Oh look...I'd forgotten their nickname is The Robins.
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i would have hoped their ground was ring fenced by the local council so that a new club could start up at the bottom of the pyramid without having to worry about buying the ground.
The council have greater priorities than looking after a football club. Truer now than ever. If a house builder offered cash for it the council would be reckless to reject it on the grounds that a phoenix club may want to play there. The administrator will be looking to sell assets, there may not be much left after that process has run its course.
Mr. Sealey is often mentioned as being interested, he will need deep pockets if they intend to stay at the moss rose.
With money being sjhort the council will sell the land if they can and Macc Phoenix will have to play at Stockport Sports or the like
Trafford did a deal over the car park money that helped save this football club. Stockport council bought Edgeley Park. If Macclesfiled council represent their community they should be helping keep football going in the town.
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i would have hoped their ground was ring fenced by the local council so that a new club could start up at the bottom of the pyramid without having to worry about buying the ground.
The council have greater priorities than looking after a football club. Truer now than ever. If a house builder offered cash for it the council would be reckless to reject it on the grounds that a phoenix club may want to play there. The administrator will be looking to sell assets, there may not be much left after that process has run its course.
Mr. Sealey is often mentioned as being interested, he will need deep pockets if they intend to stay at the moss rose.
With money being sjhort the council will sell the land if they can and Macc Phoenix will have to play at Stockport Sports or the like
Trafford did a deal over the car park money that helped save this football club. Stockport council bought Edgeley Park. If Macclesfiled council represent their community they should be helping keep football going in the town.
In an ideal world!
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i would have hoped their ground was ring fenced by the local council so that a new club could start up at the bottom of the pyramid without having to worry about buying the ground.
The council have greater priorities than looking after a football club. Truer now than ever. If a house builder offered cash for it the council would be reckless to reject it on the grounds that a phoenix club may want to play there. The administrator will be looking to sell assets, there may not be much left after that process has run its course.
Mr. Sealey is often mentioned as being interested, he will need deep pockets if they intend to stay at the moss rose.
With money being sjhort the council will sell the land if they can and Macc Phoenix will have to play at Stockport Sports or the like
Trafford did a deal over the car park money that helped save this football club. Stockport council bought Edgeley Park. If Macclesfiled council represent their community they should be helping keep football going in the town.
Does that still apply in, and post, a pandemic?
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Doesnt have to be money. They could perhaps refuse planning permission for the Moss Rose to be turned into anything other than a football ground.
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i would have hoped their ground was ring fenced by the local council so that a new club could start up at the bottom of the pyramid without having to worry about buying the ground.
The council have greater priorities than looking after a football club. Truer now than ever. If a house builder offered cash for it the council would be reckless to reject it on the grounds that a phoenix club may want to play there. The administrator will be looking to sell assets, there may not be much left after that process has run its course.
Mr. Sealey is often mentioned as being interested, he will need deep pockets if they intend to stay at the moss rose.
With money being sjhort the council will sell the land if they can and Macc Phoenix will have to play at Stockport Sports or the like
Trafford did a deal over the car park money that helped save this football club. Stockport council bought Edgeley Park. If Macclesfiled council represent their community they should be helping keep football going in the town.
In an ideal world!grou
Surely the liquidators would be able to sell anything of saleable value at the ground, even if the council retained the site for future sporting/community use?
I remember us buying some turnstilles from Ayresome Park. Sanding them down would get my job as worst job on the ground, at least post Maunders. I presume they're still there.
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Wouldn't mind buying their stand and putting it on the Popular Side of our ground. Might be able to pick it up cheaply in a fire sale.
Didn't someone end up buying Northwich Vic's Dane Bank stand?
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Six years ago today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HxkmpJVXlk
Not sure what I like the most, James Lawrie's goal or Brian Flynn's reaction.
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Didn't someone end up buying Northwich Vic's Dane Bank stand?
2/3 of it is painted red and located behind the goal at FC United. Don’t know what happened to the rest of it.
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Didn't someone end up buying Northwich Vic's Dane Bank stand?
2/3 of it is painted red and located behind the goal at FC United. Don’t know what happened to the rest of it.
Oh yes, forgot that. We have our own stadium plans, if we can reuse things from Macc that's great but it has to fit in with the plan and commercial strategy, and not the other way round.
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Didn't someone end up buying Northwich Vic's Dane Bank stand?
2/3 of it is painted red and located behind the goal at FC United. Don’t know what happened to the rest of it.
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Incidentally, those two end stands at Scarborough's old ground are now at Featherstone Rovers.
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Didn't someone end up buying Northwich Vic's Dane Bank stand?
2/3 of it is painted red and located behind the goal at FC United. Don’t know what happened to the rest of it.
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Incidentally, those two end stands at Scarborough's old ground are now at Featherstone Rovers.
Featherstone is also used for football this season by the very ambitious Wakefield AFC of the Sheffield and Hallamshire County Senior League. Any new Macclesfield club, playing at the Moss Rose or elsewhere, should at least by able to start at a higher level than that next season, as there are already vacancies in the North West Counties League.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54349695
It really isn't.
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Love this from the official website:
Macclesfield Town P-P Bromley (for obvious reasons!)
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Just a thought... surely there are some Macc players worth picking up?
There's Liam Nolan, who was playing in the National League with Halifax last season - and Sam Walker, who could backfill Hancock's role if we actually tried Hancock up front for example...