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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on March 13, 2020, 10:46:03 AM
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Hoping the national league don’t bow to this just yet
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'bow to this'? It's a global pandemic and people are dying, they've kinda gotta take it a bit seriously.
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You’ll just have thousands of people walking around pubs and shopping centres tomorrow instead. You’d be better off outside in the fresh air. And if you are in poor health do the sensible thing to protect yourself.
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You’ll just have thousands of people walking around pubs and shopping centres tomorrow instead. You’d be better off outside in the fresh air. And if you are in poor health do the sensible thing to protect yourself.
Agreed.
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With the MLS, NBA, NHL and MLB all postponed, this is the most sensible decision. The Euros will be put back too but health comes before sport every time. Stay safe folks.
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According to the BBC the National League to hold a meeting in the next hour
to decide what to do, that was posted at 11:17.
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The club are monitoring the situation and will shortly be posting an interim statement - ahead of the National League meeting. This replaces the statement we posted yesterday evening.
The situation is so volatile that I expect us to be posting daily updates, and perhaps several times a day in the next few days.
We will do our best to keep you all informed of the latest in this uncertain situation.
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Schools are not shut so i dont see how shutting down non-league games makes a difference, it feels like gesture politics. if the science is against school closures it should also point to this being a waste of time, I realise that this is a significant issue, but not sure the average non league crowd is much different to going to the pub on a friday night
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We are at York tomorrow. That city had the first two cases in England, two Chinese tourists, and somewhat later someone who has been to Northern Italy. No spread, no community infections, nothing. That tells me York has got this well in hand. Four cases in Trafford, again no known community spread. Play the game.
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Isn’t it more about the integrity of the competition, with various clubs having players, staff etc who will need to self-isolate, than about the public health risk of staging matches?
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Looking at this virus I've done some figures based on worst case 80% infection scenario to a likely 25% infection based on the 2% CV death rate compared to the 1% flu death rate we are talking about an extra 150k to 480k extra people with underlying health isssues dying.
Call me callous but I reckon we have got this whole thing sort of tits up and we should be concentrating efforts and segregating the vulnerable people.
While taking a few extra precautions but not going mad buying up bog roll and pasta and bankrupting airlines we should easily keep the end figure down to the 25% infection rate which given the example just quoted from York and Trafford seems apocalyptically pessimistic.
did anyone catch that zika virus thing???
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Schools are not shut so i dont see how shutting down non-league games makes a difference, it feels like gesture politics. if the science is against school closures it should also point to this being a waste of time, I realise that this is a significant issue, but not sure the average non league crowd is much different to going to the pub on a friday night
Quite the opposite really, the football authorities are taking action because the government has decided not to, that the economy is more important than people’s lives. All public gatherings should be stopped now
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Isn’t it more about the integrity of the competition, with various clubs having players, staff etc who will need to self-isolate, than about the public health risk of staging matches?
Absolutely right. It’s about players, staff, officials and their families and friends as well. I’m afraid the season’s over, whether now or in a couple of weeks. The chance to contain it has been missed.
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Schools are not shut so i dont see how shutting down non-league games makes a difference, it feels like gesture politics. if the science is against school closures it should also point to this being a waste of time, I realise that this is a significant issue, but not sure the average non league crowd is much different to going to the pub on a friday night
Quite the opposite really, the football authorities are taking action because the government has decided not to, that the economy is more important than people’s lives. All public gatherings should be stopped now
But aren't the, say, 1500 people who would be attending the York v Alty game just as likely to get infected/infect others doing whatever they choose to do instead? I can see the case for suspending football based on teams being disrupted internally but I can't see any obvious public health benefit.
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Think Toff Apple and Leon have this spot on
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There's no simple solution. Everyone has the right to not turn up to watch if they think it will allow them to dodge the virus. If the game is on I will be there tomorrow but others may not want to take the risk.
As a responsible employer the club has to protect its employees by law which means as soon as someone gets the symptoms of the virus they have to be excluded. The league could limp on but for how long. If games are postponed it will bring further complications in to play. I don't know what the correct answer is but then it's not my call.
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Isn’t it more about the integrity of the competition, with various clubs having players, staff etc who will need to self-isolate, than about the public health risk of staging matches?
Absolutely right. It’s about players, staff, officials and their families and friends as well. I’m afraid the season’s over, whether now or in a couple of weeks. The chance to contain it has been missed.
Agree with both of the above. Given the North & South Divs are largely p/t and contracts expire in a matter of weeks for the vast majority of players suspending the season for a week or two is a non starter. That leaves soldier on or stop. If you continue, given current official advice is to self isolate you could have half the clubs with half a squad unavailable at various times from now til the end of the season - not sustainable. Sad to say, the only option as I see it is to stop now and decide whether to re-start at a much much later date or scrub 19-20 completely.
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I am amazed that the powers that be in our league haven't followed the same line as the premier league and the EFL. FFS are a bunch of idiots running it? What is the logic behind their decision making? SBL
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Here’s a plan:
-postpone all this season’s outstanding matches and hold the league table as is;
-roll over outstanding matches to next season;
-maintain leagues as they are;
-start next season a week early and extend it, using the play off period, and thereby accommodating the extra matches;
-automatic promotion only- no promotion through play offs
-league table is cumulative, effectively for two seasons.
Then wait and hope we’re through the worst by August.
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Gloucester vs Blyth off due to the virus.
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I do so enjoy living in the abstract permutations of a government's obsession with the power of modelling. The party of individual responsibility.
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I work in a supermarket in Ayrshire (4 cases) and today we had hundreds through the tills - lots of person to person interaction, handling of cards & cash and goods -and I would say the chances of catching anything in such an environment would be far greater than at a football match at our level (I admit I am no expert, but common sense suggests as such).
It's all a matter of perspective!
So where do you draw the line?
Obviously shutting shops would be silly, but people still have the choice as to where they go and what they do and, taking precautions with hand gel, wipes and the like should reduce contagion risks.
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The first case of Coronavirus amongst the indigenous population of North Yorkshire has been identified today. No information about where but there’s a good reason for that. Absolutely disgraceful decision from the National League.
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When did we become such a nation of snowflakes ? One case in North Yorkshire (population over 600,000). You've got more chance of being mowed down by an ambulance FFS.
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Explain that to the people now desperately trying to contact anyone who has been in contact with the poor woman who has been identified with this virus, and the people with whom they have been in contact, and their families and friends, their neighbours, work colleagues etc etc.. The virus is out there spreading. Complacency is as well. The two are linked.
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When did we become such a nation of snowflakes ? One case in North Yorkshire (population over 600,000). You've got more chance of being mowed down by an ambulance FFS.
Oh do f**k off
When it’s you losing members of your family we will revisit this. By the way have you got enough toilet roll? Snowflake.
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When did we become such a nation of snowflakes ? One case in North Yorkshire (population over 600,000). You've got more chance of being mowed down by an ambulance FFS.
Oh do f**k off
When it’s you losing members of your family we will revisit this. By the way have you got enough toilet roll? Snowflake.
I lost my family member in October if you care to cast your mind back. If I run out of bog roll I've got plenty of newspaper I can cut up. I assume that for the duration of this crisis you're going to lock yourself in your garden shed. After all, it's far too dangerous to go shopping, use any form of public transport, or go to a pub (God knows who had that glass before you). And don't think of going to church - pray at home, it's safer.
At 72 I am "vulnerable". I'm doing precisely nothing differently to how I ever do it. If I get sick and die, so be it. I'll take my chances.
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When did we become such a nation of snowflakes ? One case in North Yorkshire (population over 600,000). You've got more chance of being mowed down by an ambulance FFS.
Oh do f**k off
When it’s you losing members of your family we will revisit this. By the way have you got enough toilet roll? Snowflake.
I lost my family member in October if you care to cast your mind back. If I run out of bog roll I've got plenty of newspaper I can cut up. I assume that for the duration of this crisis you're going to lock yourself in your garden shed. After all, it's far too dangerous to go shopping, use any form of public transport, or go to a pub (God knows who had that glass before you). And don't think of going to church - pray at home, it's safer.
At 72 I am "vulnerable". I'm doing precisely nothing differently to how I ever do it. If I get sick and die, so be it. I'll take my chances.
Well said. I have elderly relatives (mid 80s) with a range of fairly typical age related conditions. They, and I, have changed our habits... we wash our hands better and more often... then just carry on.
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The first case of Coronavirus amongst the indigenous population of North Yorkshire has been identified today. No information about where but there’s a good reason for that. Absolutely disgraceful decision from the National League.
North Yorkshire reports separately to York. York has had three cases, the couple of tourists in late Jan and another unrelated case of a resident coming back from northern Italy. There have been no further cases in York. The case you refer to is somewhere in North Yorks (exc. York), which covers in excess of 3000sq miles.
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Here’s a plan:
-postpone all this season’s outstanding matches and hold the league table as is;
-roll over outstanding matches to next season;
-maintain leagues as they are;
-start next season a week early and extend it, using the play off period, and thereby accommodating the extra matches;
-automatic promotion only- no promotion through play offs
-league table is cumulative, effectively for two seasons.
Then wait and hope we’re through the worst by August.
Or Stop league now or calculate a final table & complete the play offs in a 1 week period before the start of 20-21. Suspend County and League Cups for the season if starts later than August.
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When did we become such a nation of snowflakes ? One case in North Yorkshire (population over 600,000). You've got more chance of being mowed down by an ambulance FFS.
Oh do f**k off
When it’s you losing members of your family we will revisit this. By the way have you got enough toilet roll? Snowflake.
I lost my family member in October if you care to cast your mind back. If I run out of bog roll I've got plenty of newspaper I can cut up. I assume that for the duration of this crisis you're going to lock yourself in your garden shed. After all, it's far too dangerous to go shopping, use any form of public transport, or go to a pub (God knows who had that glass before you). And don't think of going to church - pray at home, it's safer.
At 72 I am "vulnerable". I'm doing precisely nothing differently to how I ever do it. If I get sick and die, so be it. I'll take my chances.
You might be happy with your innings but some of us are a lot younger but have conditions that render this thing as being a higher danger.
I will be on a busy train tomorrow morning but I am glad precautions are being made.
This whole thing is a great chance for old gits to say snowflake a lot as if we haven’t had enough of that crap recently
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When did we become such a nation of snowflakes ? One case in North Yorkshire (population over 600,000). You've got more chance of being mowed down by an ambulance FFS.
Oh do f**k off
When it’s you losing members of your family we will revisit this. By the way have you got enough toilet roll? Snowflake.
I lost my family member in October if you care to cast your mind back. If I run out of bog roll I've got plenty of newspaper I can cut up. I assume that for the duration of this crisis you're going to lock yourself in your garden shed. After all, it's far too dangerous to go shopping, use any form of public transport, or go to a pub (God knows who had that glass before you). And don't think of going to church - pray at home, it's safer.
At 72 I am "vulnerable". I'm doing precisely nothing differently to how I ever do it. If I get sick and die, so be it. I'll take my chances.
You might be happy with your innings but some of us are a lot younger but have conditions that render this thing as being a higher danger.
I will be on a busy train tomorrow morning but I am glad precautions are being made.
This whole thing is a great chance for old gits to say snowflake a lot as if we haven’t had enough of that crap recently
Given the Govt figures are assuming up to 50m contracting the condition in the next year, of those 7.9m being admitted to hospital and up to 500,000 people dying, it's time to wind the rhetoric in frankly.