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Title: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on February 06, 2020, 12:07:51 PM
Same starting 11.

Alty 4-1 Kettering. Hulme (2), Mahon, Hancock
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on February 06, 2020, 12:15:54 PM
Really excited to see Dan Mooney for the first time and Craig Mahon for a sustained period. I hate predicting a win, but I must confess to feeling optimistic about this one.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on February 06, 2020, 12:25:37 PM
Alty win.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: MadFrankie on February 06, 2020, 12:35:56 PM
Our home record should see a comfortable win.
Other fixtures see Boston v York and Spennymoor v Brackley so at least 2 of the teams that we care about are going to drop points on Saturday.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: JTH on February 06, 2020, 01:54:45 PM
Currently 9th in the away form table (last 6 matches), this pick up since Paul Cox's arrival. Their two defeats in this run coming at Boston and York both by one goal, alongside results such as a win at Spennymoor and a draw at Brackley. So no pushovers away from their ploughed field of a pitch, but we should certainly have enough to beat them, provided we take our chances when on top.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: that man showler on February 06, 2020, 02:31:10 PM

 3-1 to Alty

 No Premier League games due to The Winter Break so would expect a 1500 Gate

 Hopefully the predicted storm and heavy rain don't arrive until after 16:50
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on February 06, 2020, 02:46:00 PM
Pity were not playing today, with the weather as it is.

same team as Tuesday, lets do this.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on February 07, 2020, 08:04:52 AM
Looks like it's going to be a windy one, and Kettering will be a bigger banana skin than we think.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on February 07, 2020, 09:06:47 AM
Play like we did on Tues night and we should pick up another 3 points.. need to cut out the silly errors at the back though which led to Telfords two goals..
4-1 Alty
Att 1388
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: ManagementGuru on February 07, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
e-ticketing now available for the Kettering game at altrinchamfc.com/club/tickets
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on February 07, 2020, 11:05:04 AM
I think it will be a comfortable win, the lads are flying at the moment and we’ll get about them from the off, I reckon 3-1 Alty.

With no MCFC/MUFC tomorrow and the PL ST holder discount I think the gate will be north of 1500, I’m going 1586. Momentum is really building.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: VocareAdRegnum on February 08, 2020, 08:36:25 AM
An Alty win and clean sheet, Spennymoor/Brackley and York/Boston both draws would be a terrific afternoon. New signings have been great thus far and the feel good factor seems to be returning to Moss Lane. Atmosphere has been superb the last few months, let's get the Golf Road End rocking once more!

A 3-0 win with Hulme, Hancock and Hannigan. Crowd 1322.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on February 08, 2020, 05:14:08 PM
Kettering ran that game and did everything bar score a winner. Lot'so of moaning about the ref but I thought he got on top of the fouling quite well. I do wonder if we expected them to roll over and were a bit surprised to find them competing so hard for everything.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on February 08, 2020, 05:42:06 PM
Kettering were better than us throughout but they never really looked like scoring a second. Their number 7 was decent and their number 5 took Jordan completely out of the game.
It's not often that we're out passed. In fact, I haven't seen us pass the ball so badly all season - we'll done to Kettering for closing us down so well. Our best players without a shadow of a doubt were our centre backs. It wasn't a good day at the office and we need to improve. I think Craig Mahon is more of a Hancock-type player than a winger and we had a glaring gap down that flank throughout the match.
I didn't think the ref had a good game I'm afraid. I can't remember how many players he booked, but I didn't think the game warranted so many cards - always a bad sign with a ref. And God knows what the rules are for taking a throwing if their number 2 is allowed to start his run up half way in his own half and release the ball on the halfway line!
Anyway, it was 2 games in a few days, on a heavy pitch in difficult conditions. Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on February 08, 2020, 05:42:35 PM
We were due a bad game. They were well organised defensively but too many of our players weren't on their game today. The wind played a part but its the same for both teams. I'd have liked Mooney to drift out wide a bit more and stretch their defensive marking. Got to be happy with a point all things considered, we'll play better and lose.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: salealty on February 08, 2020, 05:44:36 PM
Our passing today was woeful. Kettering looked good going forward but that was mainly because we gave them the ball in dangerous places.

The referee was bad but consistent so both sets of supporters were moaning at him. Not sure how Hulme got booked for being mugged in the box.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on February 08, 2020, 05:48:10 PM
Kettering did close us down very well but our passing was still mostly awful even without that. Worst home performance for some time but says something that at least we didn't lose.
Thought Lundstram did well and maybe we are better at corners. First half was mostly garbage though.
Keep playing like that and kiss your play-offs goodbye.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: TheGolfRoadView on February 08, 2020, 05:51:15 PM
I thought the ref had an ok game, though not sure what Jordan did to get booked. We do have alot of Alty fans who start having a go at the ref if an opposing player dares to touch an Alty player or if an Alty player hits the deck. They don't seem to realise that we do have a few players who look for free kicks too easily, Mahon you can see already, is one of those players.
Also in the second half when the ref let play go on when the linesman flagged for offside, the ref got a load of stick, when he was right. The linesman thought the Kettering no 7 was going to collect a pass when he was offside, but he left it for another Kettering player, who wasn't offside and so the linesman was wrong and the ref was right. A fair few Alty fans dont know the offside rule.
As for the game I thought a draw was a fair result. We improved 2nd half after a really poor 1st half, but I can't remember their keeper making a save. Thought they were not a bad team and really well organised at the back.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on February 08, 2020, 05:59:25 PM
I thought the ref had an ok game, though not sure what Jordan did to get booked. We do have alot of Alty fans who start having a go at the ref if an opposing player dares to touch an Alty player or if an Alty player hits the deck. They don't seem to realise that we do have a few players who look for free kicks too easily, Mahon you can see already, is one of those players.
Also in the second half when the ref let play go on when the linesman flagged for offside, the ref got a load of stick, when he was right. The linesman thought the Kettering no 7 was going to collect a pass when he was offside, but he left it for another Kettering player, who wasn't offside and so the linesman was wrong and the ref was right. A fair few Alty fans dont know the offside rule.
As for the game I thought a draw was a fair result. We improved 2nd half after a really poor 1st half, but I can't remember their keeper making a save. Thought they were not a bad team and really well organised at the back.

What are the rules for taking a throw then? I know all players steal a few yards but their number 2 was taking the p***. I heard the lino tell another fan that it was the ref's call and that there was nothing he could do!
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on February 08, 2020, 06:05:42 PM
We were due a bad game. They were well organised defensively but too many of our players weren't on their game today. The wind played a part but its the same for both teams. I'd have liked Mooney to drift out wide a bit more and stretch their defensive marking. Got to be happy with a point all things considered, we'll play better and lose.

Respectfully I disagree as we had a poor game at Gateshead on 18/01. Performances like these are the difference between second and third place, and seventh. We cannot afford one of these each month.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on February 08, 2020, 06:40:42 PM
Hopefully just a bad day at the office, didnt agree with motm thought Mahon was ok ish but totally different to jj.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on February 08, 2020, 06:52:14 PM
Worse first half Ive seen in a long time. Much improved 2nd half and a draw was about right. Fair play to Telford who closed us down, got in our faces and kicked fuk out of us. Aided by the worse ref we've had this century I must add

Lungstrum was mom closely followed by Mahon. Jones, Hampson and Hancock want dragging in Sunday for passing practice.

My unbeaten (in 90 minuets) still stands, but only just
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on February 08, 2020, 06:56:48 PM
A couple of their fans I spoke to separately at Kettering last week were unanimous that they played better away. They proved that this afternoon. They closed us down very effectively (if not always legally !) and I suspect they're on the M6 now considering it as two points lost.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Ukrainian Alty on February 08, 2020, 07:13:55 PM
Everything has already been said that sums up our woeful performance.  If we are to entertain any idea of the playoffs we must do (very) much better than that essentially poor effort today.  The passing was terrible, we gifted them the ball so many times that I lost count, and not for the first game this season either.

Anyway  ...forgotten about it already.  We can (and will) bounce back on Tuesday.  COYR.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on February 08, 2020, 07:42:01 PM
Two things spoilt the game today.
1, The weather
2. The Ref.. (not for the first time)
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on February 08, 2020, 07:53:07 PM
Not that I went but back from behind, unbeaten home league record of 14 games and 1350 in. I hear the squad may be being strengthened again in the next day or so too. Not all bad lads but definitely need something out of Spenny on Tuesday night.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: wayno on February 08, 2020, 08:38:39 PM
Good point today as I didn't think we would get anything as we were poor .

The "organization" at the turnstiles was woewful.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I was told the away turnstiles were closed ??

Tempers were frayed at 310pm when the game has started with a 10 minute wait to get in . Joke

A gentleman came up to me in the queue and told me he had offered to man the turnstiles at 2pm and was refused

Offering a incentive to floating fans to show up with no organization . So Alty 
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Matt Taylor on February 08, 2020, 09:34:35 PM
Kettering were better than us throughout but they never really looked like scoring a second.

Not too sure about that. That lad at 10, thankfully, missed a couple of late chances for them when they got back on top, and I thought they had a fairly decent penalty shout with 5 mins to go.
But agree with the rest of it, if we can still pick up points on the odd occasion we play as badly as that (bar a decent 20 mins after HT), then we’re doing ok. Will need to to be much better on Tuesday mind.

Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on February 08, 2020, 10:37:01 PM
Kettering were better than us throughout but they never really looked like scoring a second.

Not too sure about that. That lad at 10, thankfully, missed a couple of late chances for them when they got back on top, and I thought they had a fairly decent penalty shout with 5 mins to go.
But agree with the rest of it, if we can still pick up points on the odd occasion we play as badly as that (bar a decent 20 mins after HT), then we’re doing ok. Will need to to be much better on Tuesday mind.



It was disappointing to see a couple of lads, clearly new visitors to Moss Lane, asking at the turnstiles at 2:40pm if they could pay by card and being told to find a cashpoint. If the e-ticketing system is in operation there should at least be a flyer by the turnstiles with the web address.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: MadFrankie on February 08, 2020, 10:55:00 PM
The situation at the turnstiles really needs addressing quickly - these problems are being reported repeatedly.
If I’m not mistaken, today there were 2 turnstiles open between the main and family stands and 2 on the Golf Road end. This is the same as the Telford game on Tuesday despite the crowd today being 500+ bigger. I’ve used the e-ticket option a lot and even that’s proving problematic due to technical issues.
Pretty sure that we regularly used to have 8 turnstiles open. I suspect that we’ve lost volunteers and wonder why this might be.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: B. 4D on February 09, 2020, 12:14:38 AM
Good point today as I didn't think we would get anything as we were poor .

The "organization" at the turnstiles was woewful.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I was told the away turnstiles were closed ??

Tempers were frayed at 310pm when the game has started with a 10 minute wait to get in . Joke

A gentleman came up to me in the queue and told me he had offered to man the turnstiles at 2pm and was refused

Offering a incentive to floating fans to show up with no organization . So Alty 

Wayno, you know as a loyal fan, Turnstiles are open next to the stand at one thirty, if not before.
The away fans found them no problem in getting in.
As one price to get in the ground, anybody can use them.
Get there early,  or use the stand turnstiles. Simple.
As Mrs Warbouys says, get an e-ticket , job done.



Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Nom de plume on February 09, 2020, 02:41:04 AM
And if you’re a season ticket holder?.......
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: alty.fc on February 09, 2020, 08:33:27 AM
The situation at the turnstiles really needs addressing quickly - these problems are being reported repeatedly.
If I’m not mistaken, today there were 2 turnstiles open between the main and family stands and 2 on the Golf Road end. This is the same as the Telford game on Tuesday despite the crowd today being 500+ bigger. I’ve used the e-ticket option a lot and even that’s proving problematic due to technical issues.
Pretty sure that we regularly used to have 8 turnstiles open. I suspect that we’ve lost volunteers and wonder why this might be.
we have lost volunteers because despite being fantastic at community work we have lost touch with the fan base that wanted to help the club . And a number of old volunteers have been treated in a very poor manner
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: wayno on February 09, 2020, 08:37:36 AM
Good point today as I didn't think we would get anything as we were poor .

The "organization" at the turnstiles was woewful.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I was told the away turnstiles were closed ??

Tempers were frayed at 310pm when the game has started with a 10 minute wait to get in . Joke

A gentleman came up to me in the queue and told me he had offered to man the turnstiles at 2pm and was refused

Offering a incentive to floating fans to show up with no organization . So Alty  

Wayno, you know as a loyal fan, Turnstiles are open next to the stand at one thirty, if not before.
The away fans found them no problem in getting in.
As one price to get in the ground, anybody can use them.
Get there early,  or use the stand turnstiles. Simple.
As Mrs Warbouys says, get an e-ticket , job done.




well excuse me for wanting a beer before the game with my mates . I am the customer and I will arrive at the gate when I choose . The stand turnstiles were as bad due to the away Gates being closed . Awful organization .

Also what about the floating fans how are they supposed to know or expect this  lack or organization ??
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Bob on February 09, 2020, 09:26:37 AM
Good point today as I didn't think we would get anything as we were poor .

The "organization" at the turnstiles was woewful.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I was told the away turnstiles were closed ??

Tempers were frayed at 310pm when the game has started with a 10 minute wait to get in . Joke

A gentleman came up to me in the queue and told me he had offered to man the turnstiles at 2pm and was refused

Offering a incentive to floating fans to show up with no organization . So Alty 

Wayno, you know as a loyal fan, Turnstiles are open next to the stand at one thirty, if not before.
The away fans found them no problem in getting in.
As one price to get in the ground, anybody can use them.
Get there early,  or use the stand turnstiles. Simple.
As Mrs Warbouys says, get an e-ticket , job done.






if you are suggesting fans should arrive early because we can't cope well with a 1,300 odd crowd then that's totally sending the wrong signals; taking the regulars for granted and a poor experience for the floaters and first timers who we want to come back.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: wayno on February 09, 2020, 09:52:44 AM
Good point today as I didn't think we would get anything as we were poor .

The "organization" at the turnstiles was woewful.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I was told the away turnstiles were closed ??

Tempers were frayed at 310pm when the game has started with a 10 minute wait to get in . Joke

A gentleman came up to me in the queue and told me he had offered to man the turnstiles at 2pm and was refused

Offering a incentive to floating fans to show up with no organization . So Alty 

Wayno, you know as a loyal fan, Turnstiles are open next to the stand at one thirty, if not before.
The away fans found them no problem in getting in.
As one price to get in the ground, anybody can use them.
Get there early,  or use the stand turnstiles. Simple.
As Mrs Warbouys says, get an e-ticket , job done.






if you are suggesting fans should arrive early because we can't cope well with a 1,300 odd crowd then that's totally sending the wrong signals; taking the regulars for granted and a poor experience for the floaters and first timers who we want to come back.
this was my point made better than I did thanks . Really the kick off should have been delayed for people to be allowed into the game
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on February 09, 2020, 11:00:25 AM
Kettering were better than us throughout but they never really looked like scoring a second.

Not too sure about that. That lad at 10, thankfully, missed a couple of late chances for them when they got back on top, and I thought they had a fairly decent penalty shout with 5 mins to go.
But agree with the rest of it, if we can still pick up points on the odd occasion we play as badly as that (bar a decent 20 mins after HT), then we’re doing ok. Will need to to be much better on Tuesday mind.



It was disappointing to see a couple of lads, clearly new visitors to Moss Lane, asking at the turnstiles at 2:40pm if they could pay by card and being told to find a cashpoint. If the e-ticketing system is in operation there should at least be a flyer by the turnstiles with the web address.

In this day and age, a NFC chip next to the turnstile to tap your phone on with a URL printed should be at the corner of the ground, anyone in the queue should be directed to it.

It should be more prominent on the homepage as at 2.30 I had to click through to find it.

We were offered e ticket gates a few years back by a sponsor which I put to the club but it was turned down, but should be reconsidered.

Or a dedicated appeal for turnstile operators.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on February 09, 2020, 11:18:16 AM
Good point today as I didn't think we would get anything as we were poor .

The "organization" at the turnstiles was woewful.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I was told the away turnstiles were closed ??

Tempers were frayed at 310pm when the game has started with a 10 minute wait to get in . Joke

A gentleman came up to me in the queue and told me he had offered to man the turnstiles at 2pm and was refused

Offering a incentive to floating fans to show up with no organization . So Alty  

Wayno, you know as a loyal fan, Turnstiles are open next to the stand at one thirty, if not before.
The away fans found them no problem in getting in.
As one price to get in the ground, anybody can use them.
Get there early,  or use the stand turnstiles. Simple.
As Mrs Warbouys says, get an e-ticket , job done.




well excuse me for wanting a beer before the game with my mates . I am the customer and I will arrive at the gate when I choose .


Of course it's your choice whether you want to roll up at 2.59 and expect to stroll in. Is there some reason why you and your mates can't drink in the CSH or use the craft beer hut ?
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on February 09, 2020, 11:51:18 AM
E-ticketing doesn't actually help you get in that much quicker if there's a queue. It's only really the same as having the right money. I was fortunate that at the moment I arrived at the turnstiles a steward showed some common sense and let season ticket holders in through the side gate. I haven't got a lot of sympathy for people who turn up at two minutes to three and expect to walk straight in, and I include myself in that.

And from where I was standing at the top of the Chequers end with a clear view of people coming in through the Gold Road turnstile I would say most people had got into the ground before 3pm anyway.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: wayno on February 09, 2020, 11:56:03 AM
Good point today as I didn't think we would get anything as we were poor .

The "organization" at the turnstiles was woewful.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I was told the away turnstiles were closed ??

Tempers were frayed at 310pm when the game has started with a 10 minute wait to get in . Joke

A gentleman came up to me in the queue and told me he had offered to man the turnstiles at 2pm and was refused

Offering a incentive to floating fans to show up with no organization . So Alty  

Wayno, you know as a loyal fan, Turnstiles are open next to the stand at one thirty, if not before.
The away fans found them no problem in getting in.
As one price to get in the ground, anybody can use them.
Get there early,  or use the stand turnstiles. Simple.
As Mrs Warbouys says, get an e-ticket , job done.




well excuse me for wanting a beer before the game with my mates . I am the customer and I will arrive at the gate when I choose .


Of course it's your choice whether you want to roll up at 2.59 and expect to stroll in. Is there some reason why you and your mates can't drink in the CSH or use the craft beer hut ?
I think your missing the point . I didnt want too. I drink at the hut during the game but not before it . My point is as it's been made elsewhere is we lack organization and forward planning
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: wayno on February 09, 2020, 11:56:56 AM
E-ticketing doesn't actually help you get in that much quicker if there's a queue. It's only really the same as having the right money. I was fortunate that at the moment I arrived at the turnstiles a steward showed some common sense and let season ticket holders in through the side gate. I haven't got a lot of sympathy for people who turn up at two minutes to three and expect to walk straight in, and I include myself in that.

And from where I was standing at the top of the Chequers end with a clear view of people coming in through the Gold Road turnstile I would say most people had got into the ground before 3pm anyway.
I was outside the ground at 310pm trust me there were at least 100 still trying to get in
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: ManagementGuru on February 09, 2020, 12:36:38 PM
Can I thank you all for your patience yesterday, and please accept our apologies for the delays in accessing the ground.  We are looking at ways to improve the situation, to increase the number of turnstile operators, to accelerate access for season ticket and e-ticket holders and in doing so improving access to the ground for all supporters.  Yesterday was the first time the e-ticketing system worked flawlessly - with both scanner working; and when we opened the gate beside turnstiles 5 and 6 for season ticket and e-ticket holders, I got 22 e-ticket holders through in 4 minutes; significantly faster than turnstile entry.

We've got some big games coming up - Kings Lynn are next in town, and Chester and Boston United are not too far behind. 

Thank you for your continued excellent support.  We will get this right.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on February 09, 2020, 12:49:01 PM
Can I thank you all for your patience yesterday, and please accept our apologies for the delays in accessing the ground.  We are looking at ways to improve the situation, to increase the number of turnstile operators, to accelerate access for season ticket and e-ticket holders and in doing so improving access to the ground for all supporters.  Yesterday was the first time the e-ticketing system worked flawlessly - with both scanner working; and when we opened the gate beside turnstiles 5 and 6 for season ticket and e-ticket holders, I got 22 e-ticket holders through in 4 minutes; significantly faster than turnstile entry.

We've got some big games coming up - Kings Lynn are next in town, and Chester and Boston United are not too far behind. 

Thank you for your continued excellent support.  We will get this right.

Between this and Libero, I don't have to worry about cash - which as someone that doesn't carry cash regularly is of great benefit.

I do wish there was a plan B Bill. Could we speak to the ticket about if they have an app version of their qr scanner or ticket scanner, that way a selection of the 5 to 3 brigade including myself can help scan others through if they've got tickets?
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: wayno on February 09, 2020, 01:42:42 PM
Can I thank you all for your patience yesterday, and please accept our apologies for the delays in accessing the ground.  We are looking at ways to improve the situation, to increase the number of turnstile operators, to accelerate access for season ticket and e-ticket holders and in doing so improving access to the ground for all supporters.  Yesterday was the first time the e-ticketing system worked flawlessly - with both scanner working; and when we opened the gate beside turnstiles 5 and 6 for season ticket and e-ticket holders, I got 22 e-ticket holders through in 4 minutes; significantly faster than turnstile entry.

We've got some big games coming up - Kings Lynn are next in town, and Chester and Boston United are not too far behind. 

Thank you for your continued excellent support.  We will get this right.
thanks for the post 👍
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Alty5678 on February 09, 2020, 01:55:30 PM
I'm sure things could be improved, as with anything, but if there are still 100 outside at 3:10pm it is probably safe to say at least another 100 got through in the fifteen minutes preceeding this? That means at least 15% of the crowd trying to get in five minutes before kick off.

This volume/percentage of total crowd would cause timely entry issues anywhere. Replicate this up the road and do you think it'd be any smoother if 12k fans turned up five minutes before kick off at Old Trafford? They wouldn't all get in for kick off either, the same for any sports arena/show/cinema etc.

It's personal choice what time anyone gets to the ground or drinks beforehand, but it can't be expected that volunteers man additional turnstiles only from 2:50pm onwards, when that appears to be the only time there is a bottleneck and problems with speedy entry. For the size of attendance, the number of open turnstiles seems to be fine until the last minute rush.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on February 09, 2020, 02:01:12 PM
Easier said than  done but more volunteers needed or maybe even pay them its only for an hour ? Chequers end turnstiles need to be open at all games .Also the old golf road turnstiles when   say  a 1500 plus  crowd is on the cards
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on February 09, 2020, 02:10:57 PM
Good point today as I didn't think we would get anything as we were poor .

The "organization" at the turnstiles was woewful.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I was told the away turnstiles were closed ??

Tempers were frayed at 310pm when the game has started with a 10 minute wait to get in . Joke

A gentleman came up to me in the queue and told me he had offered to man the turnstiles at 2pm and was refused

Offering a incentive to floating fans to show up with no organization . So Alty 

Wayno, you know as a loyal fan, Turnstiles are open next to the stand at one thirty, if not before.
The away fans found them no problem in getting in.
As one price to get in the ground, anybody can use them.
Get there early,  or use the stand turnstiles. Simple.
As Mrs Warbouys says, get an e-ticket , job done.





I missed our first goal at Bradford using the stand turnstiles.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Matt Taylor on February 09, 2020, 04:11:56 PM
Good point today as I didn't think we would get anything as we were poor .

The "organization" at the turnstiles was woewful.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I was told the away turnstiles were closed ??

Tempers were frayed at 310pm when the game has started with a 10 minute wait to get in . Joke

A gentleman came up to me in the queue and told me he had offered to man the turnstiles at 2pm and was refused

Offering a incentive to floating fans to show up with no organization . So Alty 

Wayno, you know as a loyal fan, Turnstiles are open next to the stand at one thirty, if not before.
The away fans found them no problem in getting in.
As one price to get in the ground, anybody can use them.
Get there early,  or use the stand turnstiles. Simple.
As Mrs Warbouys says, get an e-ticket , job done.






if you are suggesting fans should arrive early because we can't cope well with a 1,300 odd crowd then that's totally sending the wrong signals; taking the regulars for granted and a poor experience for the floaters and first timers who we want to come back.

Yes, exactly Bob.

The ‘just turn up earlier’ retort is fine to throw around on here, even if it misses the point slightly. However, a lot of those stuck in the queues outside the ground aren’t Alty fans (yet) and therefore we should be doing everything possible to make their visit as smooth and enjoyable as we can. We shouldn’t want anyone heading home at 5pm with the ‘yeah it was ok, but a proper pain in the arse to get into the ground’ impression. Or, worse still, heading to the King George for the afternoon instead because there’s a long queue at 2.55pm and it’s pissing it down.

If the modern day football fan chooses to turn up from 2.50pm onwards and we want them to come back, then we should be looking at how we can adapt to meet their needs, not just tell them that they’re doing it wrong.


Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: wayno on February 09, 2020, 05:18:28 PM
On another subject . I thought the home fans were exceptional in the 2nd half . Very loud . Up the reds
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on February 09, 2020, 07:03:19 PM
Those who think "just turn up earlier" isnt acceptable are missing the point a bit. I've been to events where even with a ticket you have to queue up to get in. sometimes its just the way it is, especially if there are bag checks. I doubt that those who missed kick off wouldnt come back just because of that. I'd expect they probably thought next time I come I might need to arrive ten minutes earlier.  Arriving at two minutes to three and expecting a turnstile all to yourself is setting your expectations a little too high perhaps.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Leeds Leeds Alty on February 09, 2020, 07:24:53 PM
Folks the bottom line is that we only had 4 turnstiles open, and so it was inevitable and foreseeable that yet again we would see large numbers of people still queuing 10 to 15 minutes after kick off.

We can blame people for turning out a few minutes before kick off-  but this has been happening since time began and was never this much of a problem.

We can bury our heads in the sand and make out there is no problem - one poster saying there was no queue at the Golf Road at 3pm - that is simply untrue-  I was outside the golf road at that time and there were 150 plus easy at that time - and a lot of people were really fed up.

We can look at other, valid ways of selling tickets - e-tickets a good idea and it seems to be working very well.

But whatever you think, or the club does, 4 turnstiles open for a match where a crowd of 1300-1400 was expected is just not acceptable and is inviting problems. This has happened at every single Saturday match in recent weeks - 4 turnstiles open - chaos in the few minutes before and after kick off - so it isn't as if this is catching the club unawares.

We need more turnstile operators, it is that simple - but no one at the club is asking for them.  When I did the turnstiles for 3 years we never had less than 8 turnstiles open for generally much smaller attendances, you got free entry, and a fiver for your troubles as well.  I became one because we were short for the Burton FA Cup match so George Heslop put a call for volunteers on the website - and I carried on because it was handy for me at the time and because it was contributing to the club. I am sure there must be 4 or 5 fans out there who would be happy to help out if they were asked.

But we HAVE to address this quickly.  We have a match against Kings Lynn coming up which we will need to be on our game for - away turnstiles open, all golf road turnstiles open - as it will attract a bigger crowd and we can expect a fair few from Norfolk given it is the first time we have played them at moss lane.

If we don't have this sorted by the Chester match then we can expect all hell to break loose.

I am not looking to criticise club officials for this - you work so hard on match days and in most respects organisation and professionalism at the club has improved dramatically-  but I know what I am talking about here, and this must be addressed or we will have much bigger problems down the line.

Please take this in the constructive spirit in which it is intended

 
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Nom de plume on February 09, 2020, 07:38:29 PM
Arriving at two minutes to three and expecting a turnstile all to yourself is setting your expectations a little too high perhaps.

So what time is acceptable? My son joined the queue at the side of the main stand (because the Golf Road turnstiles have been a shambles for weeks) at 2.40pm. He got in the ground at 2.55pm, traipsed through the main stand (which is also a joke) in order to take up his position on the popular side just as the match kicked off. I venture to suggest that is unacceptable, and smacks of poor organisation.

At the Manager/Board presentation a couple of weeks ago we were led to believe we are supporters of a professional football club which is going places with big plans for the ground. I’m afraid it’s largely smoke and mirrors because the basics aren’t there. Lack of open turnstiles is but one of the shortcomings.
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: j.c. on February 09, 2020, 08:08:43 PM
Preferred it when you were talking about the game.  ;D
Rocked up at 2.50 from the George and got in no problem (Turnstile by the closed away gates)
Don't expect any more from Kings Lynn that we bought yesterday, they don't travel well.
Enjoyed coming back to Alty yesterday after a few years away. Been coming up here with The Poppies since the early 90;s when we were both "proper" and being back in the same league gives me the satisfaction that we have survived our years in the doldrums through mis-management and are slowly finding our way back to our natural level.
Not a great game from your perspective but from ours we were disappointed that we didn't win.
In Paul Cox we have a manager that knows both the league and the club (150+ appearances late nineties). I expect us to go from strength to strength once this season is done and dusted and establish ourselves at least at this level until we sort something out with our ground.
All the best for the rest of the season. In a purely selfish kind of way I hope you dont sneak up through the play offs. Would love to come back again next season and see both Kettering and Altrincham battling it out at the top of the league. Just like the good old days.
j.c. (Sorry for the late post, forgot I was a member on here and lost my password)
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: wayno on February 09, 2020, 08:23:51 PM
Folks the bottom line is that we only had 4 turnstiles open, and so it was inevitable and foreseeable that yet again we would see large numbers of people still queuing 10 to 15 minutes after kick off.

We can blame people for turning out a few minutes before kick off-  but this has been happening since time began and was never this much of a problem.

We can bury our heads in the sand and make out there is no problem - one poster saying there was no queue at the Golf Road at 3pm - that is simply untrue-  I was outside the golf road at that time and there were 150 plus easy at that time - and a lot of people were really fed up.

We can look at other, valid ways of selling tickets - e-tickets a good idea and it seems to be working very well.

But whatever you think, or the club does, 4 turnstiles open for a match where a crowd of 1300-1400 was expected is just not acceptable and is inviting problems. This has happened at every single Saturday match in recent weeks - 4 turnstiles open - chaos in the few minutes before and after kick off - so it isn't as if this is catching the club unawares.

We need more turnstile operators, it is that simple - but no one at the club is asking for them.  When I did the turnstiles for 3 years we never had less than 8 turnstiles open for generally much smaller attendances, you got free entry, and a fiver for your troubles as well.  I became one because we were short for the Burton FA Cup match so George Heslop put a call for volunteers on the website - and I carried on because it was handy for me at the time and because it was contributing to the club. I am sure there must be 4 or 5 fans out there who would be happy to help out if they were asked.

But we HAVE to address this quickly.  We have a match against Kings Lynn coming up which we will need to be on our game for - away turnstiles open, all golf road turnstiles open - as it will attract a bigger crowd and we can expect a fair few from Norfolk given it is the first time we have played them at moss lane.

If we don't have this sorted by the Chester match then we can expect all hell to break loose.

I am not looking to criticise club officials for this - you work so hard on match days and in most respects organisation and professionalism at the club has improved dramatically-  but I know what I am talking about here, and this must be addressed or we will have much bigger problems down the line.

Please take this in the constructive spirit in which it is intended

 
an excellent post . In terms of Chester it kicked off in the 2nd qual on a Tuesday night so I imagine we will have be a absolutely organized and prepared to the finest detail . But don't get me started on that either I'm still waiting for any of thier fans to be ejected 🙄🤣
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: Silent but Ledley on February 09, 2020, 08:54:33 PM
Quite willing to help run a turnstile if required. But need 24 hours notice SBL
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on February 10, 2020, 12:32:58 PM
Everything has already been said that sums up our woeful performance.  If we are to entertain any idea of the playoffs we must do (very) much better than that essentially poor effort today.  The passing was terrible, we gifted them the ball so many times that I lost count, and not for the first game this season either.

Anyway  ...forgotten about it already.  We can (and will) bounce back on Tuesday.  COYR.

I thought that Hampson, in particular, had an absolute nightmare. By the time he went off injured he needed to be put out of his misery in any case.

One positive was that, whilst he still looks like a bit of a rough diamond (and of course he was asked to play out of position), Mullarkey has the potential to be a very good player.

Not sure about awarding Mooney the MOM award over the tannoy - I thought that, like Hancock, he didn't really get into the game at all (and Jordan was badly isolated again).
Title: Re: Kettering Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on February 10, 2020, 01:28:06 PM
Folks the bottom line is that we only had 4 turnstiles open, and so it was inevitable and foreseeable that yet again we would see large numbers of people still queuing 10 to 15 minutes after kick off.

We can blame people for turning out a few minutes before kick off-  but this has been happening since time began and was never this much of a problem.

We can bury our heads in the sand and make out there is no problem - one poster saying there was no queue at the Golf Road at 3pm - that is simply untrue-  I was outside the golf road at that time and there were 150 plus easy at that time - and a lot of people were really fed up.

We can look at other, valid ways of selling tickets - e-tickets a good idea and it seems to be working very well.

But whatever you think, or the club does, 4 turnstiles open for a match where a crowd of 1300-1400 was expected is just not acceptable and is inviting problems. This has happened at every single Saturday match in recent weeks - 4 turnstiles open - chaos in the few minutes before and after kick off - so it isn't as if this is catching the club unawares.

We need more turnstile operators, it is that simple - but no one at the club is asking for them.  When I did the turnstiles for 3 years we never had less than 8 turnstiles open for generally much smaller attendances, you got free entry, and a fiver for your troubles as well.  I became one because we were short for the Burton FA Cup match so George Heslop put a call for volunteers on the website - and I carried on because it was handy for me at the time and because it was contributing to the club. I am sure there must be 4 or 5 fans out there who would be happy to help out if they were asked.

But we HAVE to address this quickly.  We have a match against Kings Lynn coming up which we will need to be on our game for - away turnstiles open, all golf road turnstiles open - as it will attract a bigger crowd and we can expect a fair few from Norfolk given it is the first time we have played them at moss lane.

If we don't have this sorted by the Chester match then we can expect all hell to break loose.

I am not looking to criticise club officials for this - you work so hard on match days and in most respects organisation and professionalism at the club has improved dramatically-  but I know what I am talking about here, and this must be addressed or we will have much bigger problems down the line.

Please take this in the constructive spirit in which it is intended


Great post.

The need for volunteers was mentioned at the recent Meet the Board event but there needs to be a more substantial drive for them, and I'd suggest hiring a part time Volunteer Coordinator to oversee this.