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Title: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: robininstockport on December 29, 2019, 12:49:46 PM
Although they were complete parcel on Boxing Day yesterdays result shows there must be team in there. This coupled with Williams and probably White absentees it's a tougher game than it was 24 hours ago.

Assume Wall and Peers will be back in the squad so it will be a full bench without upgrading reserve outfield players in.

Harrop did enough to keep his birth, after that team picks it's self.

Alty 3-0 Curzon. Hulme x 2, Harrop.

Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Alty Bri on December 29, 2019, 12:55:42 PM
White didn't look so bad when he went off tbh. Having said that, Connor did brilliantly when he came on and we should keep the same 11 that started the second half.
Wall, Peers and Taylor makes for a very lopsided bench however and it wouldn't surprise me to see a reinforcement or two brought in very soon.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: robininstockport on December 29, 2019, 01:00:50 PM
Yes, if Williams is going to be out for any length of time we need a proven midfielder asap
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: CRT Butty on December 29, 2019, 01:37:58 PM
Which Alty will turn up?

After Southport we should be thinking about a comfortable Alty win, but we've proven we can have dreadful performances such as at BPA. For me the jury is still out.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Timperley The Best on December 29, 2019, 02:27:53 PM
Yes, if Williams is going to be out for any length of time we need a proven midfielder asap

agreed and someone who is fairly experienced
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Hale Alty on December 29, 2019, 02:37:22 PM
We have Simon Richman who proved himself in the league above this one.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: robininstockport on December 29, 2019, 02:44:29 PM
We have Simon Richman who proved himself in the league above this one.

If Moult and/or Richman get injured/suspended we're fooked
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Alty Dave on December 29, 2019, 04:03:35 PM
Whitey, believe came off ill, went home as has similar to what Peers and a few others have had. So maybe back in squad on Wednesday. Wall was injured.

Curzon will battle, so if we turn up with 'A' game then no reason why we cant get a positive result. Lets keep the momentum going.

Come on Alty.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 29, 2019, 04:53:00 PM
White didn't look so bad when he went off tbh. Having said that, Connor did brilliantly when he came on and we should keep the same 11 that started the second half.
Wall, Peers and Taylor makes for a very lopsided bench however and it wouldn't surprise me to see a reinforcement or two brought in very soon.
For Taylor read Walker  ;)
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Alty Bri on December 29, 2019, 05:00:38 PM
White didn't look so bad when he went off tbh. Having said that, Connor did brilliantly when he came on and we should keep the same 11 that started the second half.
Wall, Peers and Taylor makes for a very lopsided bench however and it wouldn't surprise me to see a reinforcement or two brought in very soon.
For Taylor read Walker  ;)

No idea where I got Taylor from! ☺️
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Silent but Ledley on December 29, 2019, 06:58:03 PM
ONE OF THREE SPIES HA sbl
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: PukkaPieman on December 29, 2019, 07:56:42 PM
Whitey, believe came off ill, went home as has similar to what Peers and a few others have had. So maybe back in squad on Wednesday. Wall was injured.
Curzon will battle, so if we turn up with 'A' game then no reason why we cant get a positive result. Lets keep the momentum going.
Come on Alty.
Wall sent home as he had flu or similar and was coughing everywhere, sensible precaution.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 29, 2019, 09:42:22 PM
Don’t forget you can get tickets in advance here

https://www.altrinchamfc.com/club/tickets

Ticket will be available to print off straight away or to be scanned straight from your phone at turnstile 5 situated next to the main stand
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: CRT Butty on December 30, 2019, 12:25:45 PM
Having seen the highlights of the Southport game (I was there) and the space we found, the quality of the goals and chances created in the second half I am confident of a win.

The first goal is crucial, if we score that they'll have to be more open and vulnerable. I

Come on the red and whites.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on January 01, 2020, 12:18:13 PM
Don’t forget you can get tickets in advance here right up until kick off

https://www.altrinchamfc.com/club/tickets

Ticket will be available to print off straight away or to be scanned straight from your phone at turnstile 5 situated next to the main stand
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Mick on January 01, 2020, 03:58:39 PM
HT.....and I am frustrated

Dominated play, not made possession in the final third count and concede yet again from a corner.... ???
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Mick on January 01, 2020, 04:03:10 PM
Hoping we continue to be a second half team and win this game
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: CRT Butty on January 01, 2020, 05:00:12 PM
Taking nine points from nine could be the catalyst to push us into the playoffs.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: that man showler on January 01, 2020, 05:56:22 PM
Genuine Question why can we not play the first half like second half?
Anyway great spirit and togetherness to take the 3 points.As for Harrops red
Card think he went for the intent at not the contact.up to 12th and I suspect
The play of contenders will be looking over there shoulders and thinking oh
Crap.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on January 01, 2020, 05:58:20 PM
Taking nine points from nine could be the catalyst to push us into the playoffs.

Very lethargic and stuttering performance but getting 9 from 9 can't really be argued against. I hear there has been some sickness going through the squad so in those circumstances we can't be unhappy if there were some under par performances. We certainly didn't play well in the first half but we also weren't allowed to by a very defensive Curzon side. I rate Toby Mullarkey but I think James Jones is a better defender and our defence seems more solid with Jones. Difference of opinion around me on Max's sending off - some thought it was two feet off the ground so dangerous play, others he got the ball - I thought a booking was sufficient.

Happy New Year!
Paul
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: oneedham on January 01, 2020, 06:14:26 PM
Sluggish in the first half but 9 from 9 is excellent.

When Hancock if off his game, so is our performance.

Having JJ back has been huge, he drove us forward on many occasions.

Defo more vulnerable on crosses without Jones. Jones and Hannigan are vital to us, Hannigan deserved his MOTM.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: alty.fc on January 01, 2020, 06:21:45 PM
Taking nine points from nine could be the catalyst to push us into the playoffs.

Very lethargic and stuttering performance but getting 9 from 9 can't really be argued against. I hear there has been some sickness going through the squad so in those circumstances we can't be unhappy if there were some under par performances. We certainly didn't play well in the first half but we also weren't allowed to by a very defensive Curzon side. I rate Toby Mullarkey but I think James Jones is a better defender and our defence seems more solid with Jones. Difference of opinion around me on Max's sending off - some thought it was two feet off the ground so dangerous play, others he got the ball - I thought a booking was sufficient.

Happy New Year!
Paul
I will be interested to see the replay I thought his foot was high and that sometimes is enough these days however I thought he took the ball as well
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: alty.fc on January 01, 2020, 06:22:37 PM
Ps huge win !! Well done
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: PukkaPieman on January 01, 2020, 06:29:19 PM
Relief is my emotion, they certainly changed their system since boxing day and made it hard for us. Ringo played too deep first half.
I thought Moult was MOTM. Considering the sickness during this period, thats a very creditable return, but we need to improve if we are to get into the playoffs IMO.
Williams should be back soon, that will help.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: jhcorbett on January 01, 2020, 06:33:22 PM
Can't argue with 3 wins over the xmas/new year period, so well done on that front, especially if there is sickness in the squad. Not near our best today but good to keep the run going.

There will be tougher tests than Curzon and Southport (who got turned over again today) though.

Jake and Tom Hannigan stood out today, as did the ref, who was far more random than usual. Would like to see the red card decision on Alty TV when available.

Happy new year all!
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Alty Bri on January 01, 2020, 06:34:41 PM
I don't think we were that sluggish tbh. I've seen us play enough times already this season to know that we consistently struggle against teams like Curzon - well organised and physically strong defensively. It's definitely a flaw in our lovely style of play and one that needs addressing.
My gut feeling at the time of the sending off was that the ref was 100% correct.
We won and that's 9 out of 9 so we're on a roll but we're still a player or two short of the play offs.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: robininstockport on January 01, 2020, 06:35:29 PM
Miles off it first half, much better second and thoroughly deserved the win. As has been said, we Hancock to turn in a performance or it's a massive struggle.

Thought the red card was wrong and fully expect us to appeal it. Their management team were embarrassing and I hope they  go down.

White was my mom
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Hale Alty on January 01, 2020, 07:09:30 PM
Whether Max got the ball or not makes no difference. It's the nature of the tackle that matters. Why people still bang on about getting ball baffles me.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Alty Dave on January 01, 2020, 07:18:27 PM
Pleased we got the win, 80% possession first half with there keeper making a couple of decent saves. Poor defending/error by thommo for there goal.

Woke up second half, and played better. For me it was a red viewing from the main stand, two footed sliding tackle at speed by Max, which we've seen before. Josh came off with slight injury. Considering around 8 were croc over weekend then I thought we did well.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 01, 2020, 07:19:35 PM
Whether Max got the ball or not makes no difference. It's the nature of the tackle that matters. Why people still bang on about getting ball baffles me.
Sometime when I've got a few hours to spare, you can educate me on how to interpret "the nature of a tackle". Most of the referees we see at this level have enough trouble spotting the obviously malicious stuff, without having to give marks for artistic merit every time somebody makes a challenge.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Hale Alty on January 01, 2020, 07:26:42 PM
Don't be sarcy. You should know full well by now that a two footed off the ground tackle that take the player out (if that's what it was) is going to get a player sent off even if the ball end up tucked up his shirt.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Alty Bri on January 01, 2020, 07:27:30 PM
I didn't want to say it before anyone else (in case I was mistaken) but it did appear to be a 2-footed challenge from Max. I want to be wrong but my first thought was that he'd be in trouble.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: robininstockport on January 01, 2020, 07:47:22 PM
Don't be sarcy. You should know full well by now that a two footed off the ground tackle that take the player out (if that's what it was) is going to get a player sent off even if the ball end up tucked up his shirt.
It's not a tackle if the the opposition player  doesn't have the ball ! Or if he's 2 yards further away from the ball than Max
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: alty.fc on January 01, 2020, 08:25:36 PM
That's the bit I couldn't see if both feet were off the ground . If they were he is classed as out of control and it's a red . Be interesting to see
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: JD on January 01, 2020, 08:39:58 PM
Miles off it first half, much better second and thoroughly deserved the win. As has been said, we Hancock to turn in a performance or it's a massive struggle.

Thought the red card was wrong and fully expect us to appeal it. Their management team were embarrassing and I hope they  go down.

White was my mom

What were they up to?
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: alty.fc on January 01, 2020, 08:40:58 PM
Miles off it first half, much better second and thoroughly deserved the win. As has been said, we Hancock to turn in a performance or it's a massive struggle.

Thought the red card was wrong and fully expect us to appeal it. Their management team were embarrassing and I hope they  go down.

White was my mom

What were they up to?
mouthing off and coming across to the Alty management . Jokers
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Matt Taylor on January 01, 2020, 08:42:38 PM
Pleased we got the win, 80% possession first half with there keeper making a couple of decent saves. Poor defending/error by thommo for there goal.

Woke up second half, and played better. For me it was a red viewing from the main stand, two footed sliding tackle at speed by Max, which we've seen before. Josh came off with slight injury. Considering around 8 were croc over weekend then I thought we did well.

I was sat level in main stand too. I actually thought you’d probably see a yellow given more often than a red for that, but if you start giving the ref that sort of decision to make, then you take your chances and sometimes it goes against you. Stupid challenge.

Weren’t firing today, but thankfully Curzon were sh1te so it didn’t matter too much and we still got the result, which is what mattered. It was another poor goal from a cross we conceded tho.


Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 01, 2020, 10:25:56 PM
I think you're being less than kind to Curzon. They were far better than we saw at their place, and certainly gave us a tougher test than many clubs who've been to Moss Lane this season.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: JD on January 01, 2020, 10:34:30 PM
Miles off it first half, much better second and thoroughly deserved the win. As has been said, we Hancock to turn in a performance or it's a massive struggle.

Thought the red card was wrong and fully expect us to appeal it. Their management team were embarrassing and I hope they  go down.

White was my mom

What were they up to?
mouthing off and coming across to the Alty management . Jokers

I guess some still have that inferiority complex against us and think scoring against us is the biggest thing to happen to their club!
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 02, 2020, 12:07:35 AM
Don't be sarcy. You should know full well by now that a two footed off the ground tackle that take the player out (if that's what it was) is going to get a player sent off even if the ball end up tucked up his shirt.

Sorry - no personal slight intended. But having just watched the Cresswell incident at West Ham, where VAR overturned the red card and it was changed to a yellow, the emphasis on that change seemed to be placed on how much of the ball he got.

I was a long way from Max's challenge, so I'll not comment until I see Alty TV.
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: cheshire cat on January 02, 2020, 09:28:39 AM
I was stood so Max was running away from me. I knew at the time it was a typical Max challenge that mostly ends up in a booking. From what I saw there was clear daylight between Max and their player. I thought the referee had a similar view. I doubt it will make the AltyTV highlights
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: AltyRobin on January 02, 2020, 10:33:23 AM
If there’s such a thing as a ‘typical max challenge’ then Parky needs to be telling him to calm down a bit. Asking for trouble diving in like he did
Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: Matt Taylor on January 02, 2020, 02:07:41 PM
I think you're being less than kind to Curzon. They were far better than we saw at their place, and certainly gave us a tougher test than many clubs who've been to Moss Lane this season.


Maybe I’m being overly harsh, but I thought, ability wise, Curzon looked every bit a side near the bottom of a regional league. But would agree that’s a step up from what they looked on Boxing Day, when they would have struggled to survive at EvoStik level.

On New Year’s Day they did at least expose our vulnerability against balls into the box on a couple of occasions, and looked much more comfortable with the extra man towards the end of the game. But prior to that I always fancied us to go on to score a couple more after getting ourselves ahead, and it wouldn’t have been unjustified, before the complexion of the final 15 mins changed when Max got himself sent off.


Title: Re: Curzon Ashton Match Thread 2
Post by: cheshire cat on January 02, 2020, 09:54:09 PM
If there’s such a thing as a ‘typical max challenge’ then Parky needs to be telling him to calm down a bit. Asking for trouble diving in like he did

Unfortunately he has done it plenty of times before, most recently in the Cheshire Cup at Stalybridge. I'm sure it doesn't do his chances of starting much good